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April 30
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RD:Mely G. Tan
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Kompas
Credits:
- Nominated by Crisco 1492 (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Indonesian academic — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support article looks well sourced. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 23:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
April 29
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Changpeng Zhao (CZ) sentenced to prison
Blurb: Changpeng Zhao, the founder of the crypto-exchange platform Binance is sentenced to 4 months in prison and becomes the richest man to be sent to prison. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
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- Nominated by TwistedAxe (talk · give credit)
Founder of Binance and an influential figure in the crypto world. TwistedAxe [contact] 23:25, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
RD:Wally Dallenbach Sr.
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Yahoo Sports
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
American racing driver and official.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
RD:Dingaan Thobela
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
South African Boxer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose needs more citations. Once this is fixed feel free to ping me so I can change vote. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 23:03, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
RD:Mykhailo Fomenko
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Chron
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
former Ukraine Football coach.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 14:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose needs more sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose not ready. LiamKorda 16:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
April 28
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RD: Bob Tyler
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Clarionledger
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
American football coach. Needs some workPharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:12, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose orange tag and lack of sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Vincent O'Sullivan
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): "Poet Sir Vincent O'Sullivan dead at 86". RNZ News. 29 April 2024. Retrieved 29 April 2024.
Credits:
- Nominated by Schwede66 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Chocmilk03 (talk · give credit) and Flipandflopped (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nearly ready; some referencing still to do. Schwede66 21:34, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support I have done an overhaul and added references where they were missing in the poetry, plays, and librettos sections. I also addressed the cn tag in the background section. The article is now ready for RD IMHO, but further feedback is welcomed. FlipandFlopped ツ 03:07, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Good work, Flipandflopped. Came here to say the same; the article's now ready. Have added you to the credit line above for your efforts. Schwede66 03:18, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Comprehensive sourcing and article writing. Agree that it’s quite ready for posting. Jusdafax (talk) 05:11, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support article is ready to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:26, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support. I note I'm still expanding the article as I have time, but am making sure that any additions are properly referenced. Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 01:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Posted—Bagumba (talk) 04:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
RD: Jean-Pierre Ferland
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Radio-Canada, La Presse
Credits:
- Nominated by Roncanada (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Canadian singer and songwriter. — Roncanada (talk) 2:59, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose an orange tag and discography is unsourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
April 27
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RD:C. J. Sansom
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Independent
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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British writer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 10:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support there are one or two unsourced sentences but I think article is good enough to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) College protests against the Israel-Hamas War
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Blurb: Protests against the Israel-Hamas War shut down several college campuses in the United States. (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:
- Nominated by FelineHerder (talk · give credit)
Lead story on every news site now. --FelineHerder (talk) 23:20, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support ongoing – Constantly in the news, but there isn't really a central story for a blurb. I wouldn't oppose a blurb, though. DecafPotato (talk) 23:27, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Part of ongoing, and while there has been a lot of questionable actions, it has yet risen to where it should be its own blurb. --Masem (t) 00:44, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Unlike the mass graves nom below, these are definitively covered by ongoing, and not particularly materially different than any of the other protests during the war. The Kip 03:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per milionth time: covered by ongoing. And not that ITN-worthy. _-_Alsor (talk) 03:31, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose There have been protests in many countries about the war, we don't need to list it at ITN as soon as they happen in the US. AusLondonder (talk) 03:38, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose I echo the above. What makes a protest in the USA more significant than every other protest all over the world? HiLo48 (talk) 03:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- As an aside, the article does cover protests in other countries too. I would also say that the way the article is structured is poorly done - there are some of these protests that need to be called out in their own section like the UT Austin one, but most of the others just happened without any confrontation, and thus we don't need separate sections on each one - but as it is done now, it is the equivalent of a PROSELINE offense but applied to space and not time. That is, it is nowhere close to our best work. --Masem (t) 04:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, for now Although I would like to note that I disagree with the above statements that something like this could never be notable. There is evidence that this thing is expanding globally to other Universities outside of the United States. If it continues to grow in scale and pace to rival the Vietnam anti-war movement, then we should revisit. FlipandFlopped ツ 02:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support Ongoing and culturally significant to the extent that the project be remiss not to have an ITN item for it Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 02:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- culturally significant….? _-_Alsor (talk) 05:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Oppose protests that have no impact/effect are not worth posting Traumnovelle (talk) 08:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose because it is covered by ongoing. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 10:07, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - it wasn't on 'every news site now' in the way the OP claims. But while this is an important story, I agree with other posters who point out that this is covered by ongoing. GenevieveDEon (talk) 10:33, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose it's a side-story to the war itself, we don't need to list every side-story to the war as well as the actual ongoing item for the war itself. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:35, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose "Students protest". Who knew? Making no practical impact on the overall conflict and not exactly the most unique ocurrance. Plus as above says, its already covered by ongoing. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 12:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose a sub-element to the war covered in ongoing. LukeSurl t c 12:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. A minor footnote to the war itself. Modest Genius talk 12:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose already covered in ongoing. Noah, AATalk 14:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose It is covered by an ongoing entry. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. LiamKorda 16:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
RD: Joe Lartey
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Citinewsroom
Credits:
- Nominated by Heatrave (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Heatrave (talk) 13:05, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose several orange tags. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose several issues. LiamKorda 09:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for now. Several sections are entirely unreferenced. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:37, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
RD: Joko Pinurbo
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN Indonesia, Kompas
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Crisco 1492 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Indonesian poet. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Oppose article needs work including more inline citation.PrinceofPunjabTALK 13:04, 27 April 2024 (UTC)- All items are cited, including the bibliography. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support the article is ready now. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:32, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support citations are full article and article of satisfactory length. Juxlos (talk) 17:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment It's unclear what is the source for all the bulleted items at Joko_Pinurbo#Poetry_collections.—Bagumba (talk) 04:14, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Every single item aside from Haduh Aku di-Follow and the three-in-one Celana Pacarkecilku di Bawah Kibaran Sarung was already covered by the immediately preceding Kompas source. MI has been cited for Haduh, Kompas for everything else, and the tri-omnibus has been commented out (referencing the book itself is also an option, but given its status as a collection of previously published collections, it's not of the same prominence. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: Somehow, if I go to translate.google.com and enter the Kompas url, it only shows two translated paragraphs. But if I look at the original, there's more paragraphs. I'll trust you that it's there. Sorry about that. —Bagumba (talk) 18:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think the way they've set up their paywall, it loads only the two paragraphs to start, checks if you meet certain criteria, and if you are allowed to read the whole thing it loads the remainder. Detik.com has a list, which I'll reference in the article. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: Somehow, if I go to translate.google.com and enter the Kompas url, it only shows two translated paragraphs. But if I look at the original, there's more paragraphs. I'll trust you that it's there. Sorry about that. —Bagumba (talk) 18:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Every single item aside from Haduh Aku di-Follow and the three-in-one Celana Pacarkecilku di Bawah Kibaran Sarung was already covered by the immediately preceding Kompas source. MI has been cited for Haduh, Kompas for everything else, and the tri-omnibus has been commented out (referencing the book itself is also an option, but given its status as a collection of previously published collections, it's not of the same prominence. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
April 26
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(Posted) RD: Peter Ingham (bishop)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Catholic Weekly
Credits:
- Nominated by PrinceofPunjab (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Looks good enough. PrinceofPunjabTALK 13:08, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support looks alright to me. LiamKorda 16:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support article is adequately sourced. FlipandFlopped ツ 18:08, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Posted—Bagumba (talk) 04:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
RD: Ruben Douglas
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Euroleague
Credits:
- Nominated by PrinceofPunjab (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Needs more sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 13:07, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose not ready. LiamKorda 16:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose valid orange tag. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 09:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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RD: Marla Adams
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
American television actress.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:12, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Selected filmography needs more sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 13:03, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Korey Cunningham
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Roatrewiki (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
– Muboshgu (talk) 16:28, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support there is no apparent issue. PrinceofPunjabTALK 16:36, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Mostly Support I'd like to see a source realer than RLS Media citing anonymous "law enforcement sources" if I was found suddenly dead at home after not really being that much of a public figure in the first place, but others' WP:BDP mileage may vary. Saw a few relatively minor issues and fixed them. Short, but covers what you'd expect. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- I removed that source as it is questionable. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support article is adequately sourced, do not think we should add anything else about the death per above (no official cause has been stated yet by the police). FlipandFlopped ツ 18:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Posted—Bagumba (talk) 04:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
RD: Au Ho-nien
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:
- Nominated by Gobonobo (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Chinese Lingnan School painter. gobonobo + c 11:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support article is well-sourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 16:37, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Wait This biography should have an actual lead and sections first, not just an intro and a break redundantly named "Biography". InedibleHulk (talk) 03:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) Ariel Henry resignation
Blurb: Acting President and Prime Minister of Haiti Ariel Henry (pictured) resigns, and is replaced by the Transitional Presidential Council. (Post)
News source(s): AP News
Credits:
- Nominated by The Kip (talk · give credit)
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Wasn't posted when originally nominated upon deal's announcement; however, he's now formally resigned, and the TPC has taken power. As a result, it's technically an ITNR item, as it's a change in who administers the government. The Kip 22:02, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support Both articles seem to be well-sourced with no glaring omissions. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 22:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support ITNR as a change of head of state, and articles look fine. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:28, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support - We held off on this earlier, but this is the time. GenevieveDEon (talk) 07:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support per above. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:48, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support Both articles are looking good. Vanilla Wizard 💙 18:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support What they've said. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:38, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support as change of head of state and thus ITN/R This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 05:02, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Posted – Muboshgu (talk) 14:39, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment : Ariel Henry was replaced by Michel Patrick Boisvert . It's good to see Haiti on the front page even if the basic info there is wrong. Boisvert signed the decree enacting the TPC in his role of acting prime minister (a position he's held since 25 Feb). This position as acting PM was reaffirmed prior to the swearing-in of the TPC. Henry did indeed resign, though. That much is right. 😁Though a few sloppy foreign sources (e. g. Forbes) referred to AH as acting president, most serious sources (NYT, Wapo, Le Nouvelliste) use the term de facto leader or sidestep the question (see the AP news source cited in the nomination which does *not* refer to AH as acting president) . -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 20:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- I fixed the lengthy OR about acting president in the current PMs entry and have cross-posted at WP:Errors. Please fix this as suggested over there so folks aren't misled into thinking there has been a change of government. The council of ministers and the PM remain the same. Sorry for being a pain, but being rigorous is better. Best, -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 21:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Post-posting revise or pull: Hate to nitpicky but the blurb is not exactly accurate. The articles on Wikipedia are poorly phrased/wrong. The outgoing Council of Ministers of outgoing acting PM Ariel Henry has selected Michel Patrick Boisvert to be the current interim PM until the TPC has selected a new interim PM. The TPC is also tasked with selecting the next cabinet and preparing the next presidential elections.VOA source
- Here are two (admittedly not great) proposals to replace the current blurb:
- 1.) The Transitional Presidential Council is sworn into power in Haiti following the resignation of Ariel Henry.
- 2.) Following the resignation of Ariel Henry the Transitional Presidential Council is sworn into power in Haiti.
- These alternative blurbs just eliminate the whole confusing President/PM/head of state nuance/minutiae. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 01:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- More than 11 hours after the errors were reported this still has not been fixed. Any other country would have the name of the new PM on the front page. Also, the entries do not say what the blurb does. Only the blurb is wrong.
- Haiti's Transitional Presidential Council is sworn in and Michel Patrick Boisvert replaces Ariel Henry as interim prime minister of Haiti.
- In most coups, "resignation" is not the most important word. :) Note also that first Henry and now Boisvert are referred to as the PM a.i. (interim PM), which is how Boisvert signed the decree creating the TPC. -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 07:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- More than 11 hours after the errors were reported this still has not been fixed. Any other country would have the name of the new PM on the front page. Also, the entries do not say what the blurb does. Only the blurb is wrong.
- Here are two (admittedly not great) proposals to replace the current blurb:
- Image discussion See Wikipedia talk:In the news § Ariel Henry image.—Bagumba (talk) 06:44, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Logically it would be a photo of the new PM on the main page, not the deposed one. -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 07:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
RD: Laurent Cantet
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Figaro
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:E9CC:EFAF:A606:B467 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
French film director. 240F:7A:6253:1:E9CC:EFAF:A606:B467 (talk) 15:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose the article needs more inline citation and the filmography section is unsourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Harvey Weinstein conviction overturned
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Blurb: Harvey Weinstein's 2020 sex crime conviction is overturned by the New York Court of Appeals. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Harvey Weinstein's 2020 sex crime conviction in New York is overturned by the New York Court of Appeals, on the grounds that he did not receive a fair trial.
News source(s): NYT CNN Guardian BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by IntoThinAir (talk · give credit)
- Wait until the Retrial is over Ion.want.uu (talk) 14:37, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hasn't the conviction been overturned though? Usually media outlets have to post false information that was publically announced for libel reasons. CheetasOnMission (talk) 14:49, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- We didn't post false information. GreatCaesarsGhost 18:42, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hasn't the conviction been overturned though? Usually media outlets have to post false information that was publically announced for libel reasons. CheetasOnMission (talk) 14:49, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support As we posted the original conviction, it's only fair to post its overturning. However, we should keep in mind that he is currently still serving a concurrent 16-year sentence in Los Angeles since 2023, which has not been overturned. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 15:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Conditional Support per Chaotic Entity. While I recall posting the original case in California, I am not sure we posted the New York case. But if we did, then we need to post this. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:51, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- The link above is to the 2020 NY case that was posted. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 16:47, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose unlike Cosby, weinstein still has other convictions that weren't part of that that will keep him in jail. Masem (t) 15:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- To add, a new trial has been ordered, so this is only vacating the ruling dye to a mistrial, so he may still be guilty of this conviction. — Masem (t) 16:43, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose mainly because he is still in prison. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 15:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Masem and Ion.want.uu. Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 16:06, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as above - he's not even getting out. GreatCaesarsGhost 18:42, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose this was overturned as a result of an error in due process rather than a basis of fact Abcmaxx (talk) 18:50, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - this would matter if it meant he's getting out, but he's not. He's still a convicted felon. --RockstoneSend me a message! 22:54, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - This isn't an acquittal, and as noted he's still imprisoned for other convictions. GenevieveDEon (talk) 07:33, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
RD: Elmira Süleymanova
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Caucasian Info
Credits:
- Nominated by Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Azerbaijani chemist and civil servant. Article seems to be of decent quality. (Very first nomination of mine on ITN/C, so apologies for any mistakes.) Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk | contribs) 12:55, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment firstly welcome and congrats on 1st nomination, hope it's one of many to come! On the article: That failed verification tag in the lead needs to be fixed. Also career as an ombudsman needs to be integrated into the biography somehow (as a subsection maybe?) otherwise this just looks weird. Abcmaxx (talk) 19:36, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
April 24
April 24, 2024
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RD: Mike Pinder
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News, Billboard
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:78DB:5DD6:3664:C3F5 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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The original member of The Moody Blues. 240F:7A:6253:1:78DB:5DD6:3664:C3F5 (talk) 17:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Quite an extensive article, but alas vast swathes lacking any sources. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:10, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Bob Cole
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC, CTV, The Hockey News, NHL.com
Credits:
- Nominated by NorthernFalcon (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Legendary Canadian hockey commentator. Article is almost ready but needs a small amount of fixes. NorthernFalcon (talk) 20:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Oppose there are several lines, paragraphs and sections that do not have a single source.PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- @PrinceofPunjab: hope you can take another look. —Bloom6132 (talk) 11:07, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support – article is well-referenced and meets minimum depth of coverage for ITN after my edits. —Bloom6132 (talk) 11:07, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support article is ready to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:34, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 18:22, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
RD: Rene Saguisag
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rappler
Credits:
- Nominated by Curbon7 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit) and Lowkeypedia (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Philippine politician. Article appears to be in good shape from a cursory read-through. Curbon7 (talk) 03:25, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- His religious faith appears to be unsourced. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support article seems ready now. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support unsourced claims have been removed and the article is ready. FlipandFlopped ツ 18:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- The faith claim at Rene Saguisag § Personal life, mentioned above by Traumnovelle, in still tagged for a citation.—Bagumba (talk) 04:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Donald Payne Jr.
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
- Updated by MAINEiac4434 (talk · give credit)
Article needs updating
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Not ready yet. Being worked on. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:21, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support article seems ready now. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:54, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support looks good now. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 18:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks to your efforts. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
OpposeDonald Payne Jr. § Electoral history needs sources.—Bagumba (talk) 08:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC)- Fixed it was already linked in the article, just moved those references into the table. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 15:32, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Strike my oppose—Bagumba (talk) 17:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed it was already linked in the article, just moved those references into the table. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 15:32, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article is ready to be posted. FlipandFlopped ツ 18:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Posted—Bagumba (talk) 04:53, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) 2024 Solomon Islands general election
Blurb: Manasseh Sogavare retains his seat as Prime Minister of the Solomon Islands but his party does not claim a majority in the Parliament in the 2024 Solomon Islands general election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: The Ownership, Unity and Responsibility Party, led by Prime Minister Manasseh Sogavare (pictured), wins the most seats in the Solomon Islands general election but falls short of a majority.
News source(s): The Guardian Al Jazeera
Credits:
- Nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)
- Updated by N Panama 84534 (talk · give credit)
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Staraction (talk | contribs) 13:32, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support Good quality and well-updated. The Kip 18:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- There's usually a section after "Results" that deals with aftermath or reactions; that's as yet missing. Otherwise, this is looking good. Schwede66 21:25, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Wait, there is not confirmation of who will be the Prime Minister yet.Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 01:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support altblurb as it doesn't state who will be the PM before it is confirmed. We do not need to wait for a PM announcement to post the results of the general election as it's not uncommon in parliamentary systems for government formations to take an unpredictable amount of time (days, weeks, even months), especially when no one party achieves a simple majority. As for quality, the article is looking good. Content is sourced and it has a very decent amount of prose. Vanilla Wizard 💙 21:12, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support article is fine. We don't need to wait for a PM announcement, the blurb can be edited if that is announced whilst this is still on the front page. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:30, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support altburb. That's an impressively detailed article and everything looks in order. Modest Genius talk 15:12, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Posted altblurb. Looks good to me. – robertsky (talk) 15:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Gaza Strip mass graves
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Blurb: Several mass graves with hundreds of bodies have been found in Gaza. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Reuters, The Guardian, NY Times, AP News, CNN, France 24, FT, Al Jazeera
Credits:
- Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
Ainty Painty (talk) 12:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, covered by ongoing Israel–Hamas war. Angusgtw (talk) 12:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as part of ongoing, hasn't changed any aspect of what's been happening there to a great degree. --Masem (t) 12:36, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Oppose per above, as tragic as it is, we can't post every human rights violation happening there or ITN would be full of them.Also, what is "Gaedgza"? Is it a variant spelling of Gaza, a spelling error, or a more specific place? Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)- Striking my vote, the scale of the human rights violation makes it pretty unprecedented, and exceptions to Ongoing can and should be made. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:05, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose it is a part of the Israel/Hamas war LuxembourgBoy42 (talk) 12:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Covered by ongoing. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support - This human rights violation barely got any coverage by the war article, compared by how notable this is Abo Yemen✉ 14:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose To little information at this time - we don’t know when these people were killed or the circumstances of their death. It’s possible that these were buried before Israel raided the compounds. In addition, covered by ongoing. BilledMammal (talk) 14:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose/Wait more or less per BilledMammal. I'm not totally convinced this would be covered in Ongoing, but the article is missing a lot of context, particularly the "who" and the "why", which is really important when we're talking about what could be a war crime. I went "oppose/wait" because this is an item worth revisiting, but any investigation will probably take some time to complete. DarkSide830 (talk) 15:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Wait per DarkSide - I'm on the fence whether this supersedes the ongoing item or not, but the fog of war is still in effect around it and the article feels woefully underdeveloped. The Kip 18:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Wait - I would like to see more clarity about what happened before posting. Blythwood (talk) 19:02, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Wait. Two graves are yet to be exhumed, and details surrounding the burials are still being reported on. Jebiguess (talk) 20:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability, wait for the article to be developed as more reports come out. The scale of the human rights violations is horrific. I think we should have blurbed the Flour massacre, though I don't recall that one ever being nominated. The Nasser Hospital mass graves discovered a few days ago represent a much larger tragedy with at least 310+ bodies found. The Al-Shifa Hospital mass graves reported on today contained at least 381+ bodies. Either of those mass graves individually are worth a blurb, but both of them together are most certainly blurbworthy. Two other mass graves with at least another 30 and 50 bodies were also reported on today. We rightly blurbed the Bucha massacre which had varying estimates of roughly 200-500 bodies found in mass graves (UN estimate 73–178, Ukrainian estimate 457). But just what's been reported on today is at least 771+. That's just horrid, and more than enough to supersede ongoing. I have no doubt that more information will become available in the coming hours to days to bring the article up to shape. Vanilla Wizard 💙 22:18, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Wait seems premature, mass graves are only a war crime if the deceased were executed Traumnovelle (talk) 23:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, covered by ongoing. BilboBeggins (talk) 09:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose ongoing and ambiguous without any clear indication of lasting impact Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose covered by ongoing. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Abdul Aleem Farooqui
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ETV Bharat, Amar Ujala
Credits:
- Nominated by Khaatir (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Indian Islamic scholar. Khaatir (talk) 07:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support Fairly good article The AP (talk) 09:22, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support - it's a good article and a notable person LuxembourgBoy42 (talk) 12:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- LuxembourgBoy42, please note that notability is not a RD criterion. If you aren't notable, you don't have a Wiki bio. If you have a Wiki bio, you qualify for a recent death entry if the bio is up to scratch. Schwede66 03:11, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support there are no apparent issues with the article. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:12, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Well-sourced and structured, ready to post. Jusdafax (talk) 04:31, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Posted – Schwede66 03:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
April 23
April 23, 2024
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RD: Nora Vagi Brash
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): National Broadcasting Corporation of Papua New Guinea
Credits:
- Created and nominated by Gamaliel (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nora Vagi Brash CMG OBE was a playwright and author from Papau New Guinea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gamaliel (talk • contribs) 22:18, 2024 April 26 (UTC)
- Support I've fixed the last two citation needed tags. Schwede66 03:09, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: This wikibio could use an intro that is longer than one sentence. --PFHLai (talk) 17:46, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Samuel Kummer
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MDR
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
- Created by LouisAlain (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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The organist at the Frauenkirche, Dresden, and a concert and recording organist with a gift for improvisation. - Article expanded and sourced. I forgot to write this summary and sign. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support article seems good enough to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Posted– robertsky (talk) 06:28, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Frank Field, Baron Field of Birkenhead
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Labour minister.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:54, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Conditional support (after sourcing issues are fixed); looks comprehensive! Staraction (talk | contribs) 13:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, it is comprehensive. But, unfortunately, at least five paragraphs currently have no citations. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sources now added. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, it is comprehensive. But, unfortunately, at least five paragraphs currently have no citations. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Conditional support (after sourcing issues are fixed); looks comprehensive! Staraction (talk | contribs) 13:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose some paragraphs do not have any sourcing. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:12, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support The article is fine. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support Well sourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Posted– robertsky (talk) 06:28, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Armenia–Azerbaijan border demarcation
Blurb: Armenia and Azerbaijan begin demarcating their common border, simultaneously placing the first boundary markers as a step towards a peace agreement. (Post)
Alternative blurb: After Armenia announces handing over four abandoned villages to Azerbaijan, the two countries begin demarcating their common border, simultaneously placing the first boundary markers as a step towards a peace agreement.
News source(s): France 24 The Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by Chaotic Enby (talk · give credit)
Armenia and Azerbaijan are working together for a peace agreement, apparently! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 09:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Weak support – Great news and a good-looking article. I think the update to the article may be a bit minimal for a blurb. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 10:12, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- I can write a bit more! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 10:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Added a bit more about the details of the deal, including protests in Armenia in response to territories being handed over. Sadly, it is not yet clear where the first boundary markers were placed. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 11:31, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose an important start, but this doesn't read as any formalized treaty or equivalent, only they're starting to survey what the boundary likely should be which they will then be the basis of the peace agreement. --Masem (t) 12:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- I do think this could be ITN worthy, but what would go a long way to facilitating such a nom is a page on the demarcation itself, which should be feasible given the scope of this event. Not voting either way at this current moment though. DarkSide830 (talk) 15:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Wait(?) per Darkside. ITN-worthy topic IMO, given the prior intensity and long-lasting nature of the conflict, but needs a better target article. The Kip 18:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- There's Armenia–Azerbaijan border crisis but it's not in the best state right now. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - On the basis that this is only one small step in a long staircase and there would be a valid claim to post numerous steps of that staircase. It's better to just wait until the border has been settled.
- CheetasOnMission (talk) 12:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability, oppose on quality This is an important development, but the quality of each of the proposed target articles isn’t good enough. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 21:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Support - This is important news, but I am not sure if this is the correct article for a blurb. Harut111 (talk) 11:32, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Wait for a permanent agreement or peace treaty. Interesting topic and a sign of progress towards a solution, but this is near the start of the process not its end. Modest Genius talk 12:41, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Helen Vendler
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Boston Globe
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Nohomersryan (talk · give credit) and Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
American literary critic. Needs some work.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 06:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Oppose Bibliography section needs more sources.PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- No it doesn't. A bibliography is a list of sources and, if that's a list of books, as in this case, it's trivially easy to verify by using the bibliographic information provided. You can also use the {{authority control}} which is there to provide similar information from the indexes of great libraries. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support There was one {{citation needed}} so I took care of it. The subject is quite respectable and the article seems fine. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
There is an orange {shortlead} tag. Please expand the intro. --PFHLai (talk) 09:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)And the Bibliography section has not yet been fully sourced. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 09:34, 26 April 2024 (UTC)- Not ready as the bibliography still has items without an ISBN or reference. Schwede66 19:36, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support, bibliography is now fully sourced with ISBNs and sources. Pings to PrinceofPunjab, PFHLai, and Schwede66 for the update. Thanks! :) ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 01:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support article is ready to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 02:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Posted – Schwede66 02:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
RD: Terry Carter
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
American actor and filmmaker.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 06:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose there is a major orange tag, Selected projects section needs to be rewritten with sources and Awards section needs sourcing. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:15, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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