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Filter ID:	368
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Conditions: (documentation)	minor_edit & (edit_delta < -500 \| edit_delta > 500) & user_editcount < 500 & !((article_namespace == 2 \| article_namespace == 3) & user_name in article_text) & !(article_namespace / 2 == 1) & !("bot" in lcase(user_name)) & !("bot" in user_groups) minor_edit & (edit_delta < -500 \| edit_delta > 500) & user_editcount < 500 & !((article_namespace == 2 \| article_namespace == 3) & user_name in article_text) & !(article_namespace / 2 == 1) & !("bot" in lcase(user_name)) & !("bot" in user_groups)
Notes:	This will trigger on edits that are marked as minor that have a size change of greater than 500 bytes (either removing or adding 200 or more characters). Obviously, this won't catch all non-minor edits, as a small size change can still be pretty darn major, but this should catch those who mark every single edit as minor. Ideally, once tested, this will give users a warning along the lines of "are you sure you want to mark this edit as minor?" explaining what minor edits are and how to turn off that stupid setting in preferences. - Hersfold, 18:16 Oct. 20 2010 Changing to not trigger on bot edits; most bots mark their edits as minor, and most of the early hits are indeed bots. - Hersfold, 18:30 Oct. 20 2010 Changed size of edit to 500 after finding that many triggered edits could have been minor, and were just adding references or the like. This also goes more in line with Recent Changes, which bolds edits that have a net change of 500 bytes or more. - Hersfold, 18:37 Oct. 20 2010 Disabling until I can figure out why this is eating up 68 (!) conditions. - Hersfold 22:14 Oct. 25 2010 Following some reassurance from Soap (thanks), I'm going to turn this back on with an added condition; if the user has more than 500 edits, it won't trigger for them. There are a large number of experienced users setting this off, and I'd like to assume that they know what they're doing. - Hersfold 22:25 Oct. 25 2010 Now will also not trigger within a user's own userspace. - Hersfold 22:32 Oct. 25 2010 As Gurch pointed out, I apparently fail at logic. NOW it won't trigger in someone's userspace. - Hersfold 15:39 Oct. 26 2010 Removing talk namespaces as well. Aside from that, many if not all of the recent triggers appear to be accurate, so I'm going to turn on warning and tagging. The warning invites reports of false positives, so hopefully that should help with any further problems. - Hersfold 15:42 Oct. 27 2010 Reordering conditions as requested on my talk page - hopefully will make this more efficient. - Hersfold 22:07 Oct. 27 2010
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