Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2021 February 27: Difference between revisions

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*'''Endorse''' the deletion. This really isn't a deletion issue - there's a clear consensus the information should be deleted, and the merge attribution issue doesn't change that. [[WP:RUD]] appears relevant here - the merge is fine, as long as it's properly attributed. Furthermore, the information appears to have been merged into a list/table even though none of the other elements of the list contain any sort of prose, so there's a possible discussion to be had about content, but that's not for DRV. [[User:SportingFlyer|SportingFlyer]] ''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:top;">[[User talk:SportingFlyer|T]]</span>''·''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:bottom;">[[Special:Contributions/SportingFlyer|C]]</span>'' 18:38, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
*'''Comment:''' Sandstein wrote, "Moreover, because Cunard does not contest that there was consensus to delete this article". I do contest that there was consensus to delete the article. None of the AfD participants said in their AfD comments what they thought about a merge, so it is unknown if any of them had considered it. The only editor who [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FSquad_%28app%29&diff=1008199483&oldid=1008003907 commented] after I posted at the AfD was [[Special:Redirect/logid/115618904|blocked]] by the AfD nominator with the reasoning "Using Wikipedia for spam or advertising purposes, likely covert advertising." After I suggested a merge target, there was no consensus to delete since no one explained why a merge did not improve Wikipedia and [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion]] urges editors to consider a merge as an alternative to deletion.<p>I merged [[Squad (app)]] to [[List of mergers and acquisitions by Twitter#Squad]] because I thought it would benefit readers. The list has very little information about each of the Twitter acquisitions. I envision a fully fleshed out list would have a column similar to the "Details of the acquisition" column in [[List of acquisitions by Disney]] that would briefly discuss each company's history and background. I completed the merge because I wanted to improve Wikipedia and considered the material I merged to be [[WP:DUE|due weight]]. I did not conduct a merge "merely to prevent a 'delete' closure of the AfD rather than with an intent to improve the target article". This is a hurtful and very bad faith assertion by Sandstein that has no basis.<p>I added the material in a footnote. In retrospect, it would have been better presented in the table as a new column titled "Background information about the company" or "Details of the acquisition". This is a content matter and is not grounds for deleting the material from the list, which Sandstein [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Twitter&diff=1009230214&oldid=1008252703 has done]. I would prefer not to implement {{user|S Marshall}}'s suggestion to remove the footnote I added since that would lead to less information for readers about what Squad is.<p>I support a relist as recommended by {{user|SmokeyJoe}} and {{user|Andrew Davidson}} so the community can consider the merge. This will give editors the opportunity to explain why they think a merge does not improve Wikipedia.<p>[[User:Cunard|Cunard]] ([[User talk:Cunard|talk]]) 20:21, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
*'''Endorse''' there was clear consensus for deletion in the AfD and it couldn't have been closed any other way. While there is definitely scope for including the subject as an entry in the list of Twitter acquisitions, the merge was done by including a description of the list entry in a footnote, which just looks bizarre and is contrary to all practice for such lists. Trying to preempt deletion at AfD by carrying out an inappropriate merge isn't a good idea. Indeed merging something which is about to be deleted at AfD can be seen as an attempt to avoid consensus and present the participants with a [[WP:FAITACCOMPLI]]. '''''[[User:Hut 8.5|<span style="color:#b50000;">Hut 8.5</span>]]''''' 20:33, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 
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