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Myrrha Gavotte

1877 - Myrrha Gavotte

Sousa composed the piece in 1877 and it was quickly transferred to piano arrangement and the sheet music sold. Adam Cuerden composed the midi file playback from the Library of Congress copy of the sheet music.

1877 - Myrrha Gavotte

Ogg conversion of the above MIDI file

Reason: Myrrha was a teen-aged girl who tricked her father into making love and then ran away and turned into a tree. Wicked girl. But somehow people like to write music or plays or stuff like this about her. What is cool about this sound is that it is a composition being used to illustrate the subject of the composition rather than in an article on the composer or the piece of music.
Composed by: John Phillip Sousa
Creator: Adam Cuerden
Articles in which this recording appears: Myrrha

Nominate and support. TCO (talk) 03:43, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support, good quality Mottenen (talk) 19:06, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~Neutral, In my view the recording of this piece of music sounds like it's just been learnt and lacks the depth of playing, a sort of aliveness quality, that could come from experience. Also my computer won't play .mid files. I would prefer that it's recorded or converted in .ogg format. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 06:24, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Sounds better as .ogg. Certainly adds value to the article, striked oppose. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 18:49, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Comment~~ Support, I was just glancing over the criteria and it seems to meet all in my mind except maybe number 3; what sort of value is added to the article by having this recording in there? NYMFan69-86 (talk) 03:34, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's probably not as illustrative as a painting (showing a girl or the like), but I think the point is similar to some of the paintings in that we see that the myth has inspired works of music, as well as works of literature and painting (and naming bugs and all). At first I thought it was a reach, but more and more now, I think it's fine. Sousa was a very famous composer and all. So it's as good as a bug or such.TCO (talk) 05:39, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I could see that; learning that the myth has inspired music then actually hearing the music is pretty neat. The experience is definitely enhanced for the reader, and I'm a supporter if the file format is usable by everyone. Is it an easy conversion for you?--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 03:43, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment is there any way to have this as a .ogg file. My computer doesn't play this file type --Guerillero | My Talk 00:34, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll ask for a conversion at Commons — Preceding unsigned comment added by TCO (talk • contribs)

Support --Guerillero | My Talk 04:31, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support I understand the oppose but think that the music is expressive enough (speaking as a person who likes music but doesn't know how to play it) that it adds value to the article.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:34, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well done Adam for doing this, and it is very interesting to see it illustrate an article in this way. While dynamics are obvious in this performance, I have a real problem with supporting this as our best work because it is a recording of a very artificial-sounding midi piano. Therefore Oppose. Ben (Major Bloodnok) (talk) 21:26, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, understood, and not trying to change the vote. Just want to add that Adam did some extra fancy shmancy stuff above a normal midi recording to try to help it. (I don't know the technical details, but alluded to and file given in description.)TCO (reviews needed) 21:29, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Myrrha Gavotte 3.ogg. —James ^{(Talk • Contribs)} • 5:16pm • 07:16, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 ;Reason: [[Myrrha]] was a teen-aged girl who tricked her father into making love and then ran away and turned into a tree.  Wicked girl.  But somehow people like to write music or plays or stuff like this about her.  What is cool about this sound is that it is a composition being used to illustrate the subject of the composition rather than in an article on the composer or the piece of music.
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 *Nominate and '''support'''. [[User:TCO|TCO]] ([[User talk:TCO|talk]]) 03:43, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 *'''Support''', good quality [[User:Mottenen|Mottenen]] ([[User talk:Mottenen|talk]]) 19:06, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
-*'''Oppose''', In my view the recording of this piece of music sounds like it's just been learnt and lacks the depth of playing, a sort of aliveness quality,  that could come from experience. Also my computer won't play .mid files. I would prefer that it's recorded or converted in .ogg format. Regards, [[User:SunCreator|SunCreator]] <sup>([[User talk:SunCreator|talk]])</sup> 06:24, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
+*<s>'''Oppose'''</s>'''Neutral''', In my view the recording of this piece of music sounds like it's just been learnt and lacks the depth of playing, a sort of aliveness quality,  that could come from experience. Also my computer won't play .mid files. I would prefer that it's recorded or converted in .ogg format. Regards, [[User:SunCreator|SunCreator]] <sup>([[User talk:SunCreator|talk]])</sup> 06:24, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
-*'''Comment''', I was just glancing over the [[Wikipedia:Featured sound criteria|criteria]] and it seems to meet all in my mind except ''maybe'' number 3; what sort of value is added to the article by having this recording in there?  [[User:NYMFan69-86|NYMFan69-86]] ([[User talk:NYMFan69-86|talk]]) 03:34, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
+**Sounds better as .ogg. Certainly adds value to the article, striked oppose. Regards, [[User:SunCreator|SunCreator]] <sup>([[User talk:SunCreator|talk]])</sup> 18:49, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
+*<s>'''Comment'''</s> '''Support''', I was just glancing over the [[Wikipedia:Featured sound criteria|criteria]] and it seems to meet all in my mind except ''maybe'' number 3; what sort of value is added to the article by having this recording in there?  [[User:NYMFan69-86|NYMFan69-86]] ([[User talk:NYMFan69-86|talk]]) 03:34, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 ::It's probably not as illustrative as a painting (showing a girl or the like), but I think the point is similar to some of the paintings in that we see that the myth has inspired works of music, as well as works of literature and painting (and naming bugs and all).  At first I thought it was a reach, but more and more now, I think it's fine.  Sousa was a very famous composer and all.  So it's as good as a bug or such.[[User:TCO|TCO]] ([[User talk:TCO|talk]]) 05:39, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
+:::I could see that; learning that the myth has inspired music then actually hearing the music is pretty neat.  The experience is definitely enhanced for the reader, and I'm a supporter if the file format is usable by everyone.  Is it an easy conversion for you?--[[User:NYMFan69-86|NYMFan69-86]] ([[User talk:NYMFan69-86|talk]]) 03:43, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
-*'''Comment''' is there any way to have this as a .ogg file. My computer doesn't play this file type --[[User:Guerillero|Guerillero]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<font color="green">My Talk</font>]] 00:34, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
+*'''Comment''' is there any way to have this as a .ogg file. My computer doesn't play this file type --[[User:Guerillero|Guerillero]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<span style="color:green;">My Talk</span>]] 00:34, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
+::I'll ask for a conversion at Commons <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:TCO|TCO]] ([[User talk:TCO|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TCO|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
-::I'll ask for a conversion at Commons
+:::'''Support''' --[[User:Guerillero|Guerillero]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<span style="color:green;">My Talk</span>]] 04:31, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
+*'''Support''' I understand the oppose but think that the music is expressive enough (speaking as a person who likes music but doesn't know how to play it) that it adds value to the article.--[[User:Wehwalt|Wehwalt]] ([[User talk:Wehwalt|talk]]) 15:34, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
+*Well done Adam for doing this, and it is very interesting to see it illustrate an article in this way. While dynamics are obvious in this performance, I have a real problem with supporting this as our best work because it is a recording of a very artificial-sounding midi piano. Therefore '''Oppose'''. [[User:Major Bloodnok|Ben (Major Bloodnok)]] ([[User talk:Major Bloodnok|talk]]) 21:26, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
+::No problem, understood, and not trying to change the vote.  Just want to add that Adam did some extra fancy shmancy stuff above a normal midi recording to try to help it.  (I don't know the technical details, but alluded to and file given in description.)[[user:TCO|TCO]] ([[User:TCO#Reviews needed|reviews needed]])  21:29, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
+'''Promoted Myrrha Gavotte 3.ogg.''' —<span style="font-family:trebuchet ms">'''[[User:M.O.X|<span style="color:#003366">James</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:M.O.X|<span style="color:#003366">Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/M.O.X|<span style="color:#003366">Contribs</span>]])</sup> • 5:16pm''' •</span> 07:16, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
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