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'''''Cratylus''''' ({{IPAc-en|k|r| |
'''''Cratylus''''' ({{IPAc-en|ˈ|k|r|æ|t|ɪ|l|ə|s}} {{respell|KRAT|il|əs}}; {{lang-grc|Κρατύλος}}, {{transl|grc|Kratylos}}) is the name of a dialogue by [[Plato]]. Most modern scholars agree that it was written mostly during Plato's so-called middle period.<ref>{{cite book |pages=6, 13–14 |author-link=David Sedley |last=Sedley |first=David |url=http://assets.cambridge.org/052158/4922/sample/0521584922ws.pdf |title=Plato's Cratylus |publisher=Cambridge University Press |year=2003 |isbn=0-521-58492-2}}</ref> In the dialogue, [[Socrates]] is asked by two men, [[Cratylus]] and [[Hermogenes (philosopher)|Hermogenes]], to tell them whether names are "conventional" or "natural", that is, whether [[language]] is a system of arbitrary signs or whether words have an intrinsic relation to the things they signify. |
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The individual Cratylus was the first intellectual influence on Plato |
The individual Cratylus was the first intellectual influence on Plato.<ref>{{cite book |first=D |last=Sedley |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=ceOQKf0ZvFMC&q=Cratylus |title=Plato's Cratylus |page=2 |publisher=Cambridge University Press |date=6 Nov 2003 |isbn=1139439197 |access-date=2015-03-26}}</ref> [[Aristotle]] states that Cratylus influenced Plato by introducing to him the teachings of [[Heraclitus]], according to MW. Riley.<ref>{{cite book |first=Michael W. |last=Riley |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=0aWDECtXxgAC&dq=Cratylus+first+influence+on+Plato&pg=PA29 |title=Plato's Cratylus: Argument, Form, and Structure |page=29 |publisher=Rodopi |year=2005 |access-date=2015-03-27 |isbn=9789042018754}}</ref> |
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==Summary== |
==Summary== |
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The subject of Cratylus is ''the correctness of names'' (περὶ ὀνομάτων ὀρθότητος),<ref> |
The subject of Cratylus is ''on'' ''the correctness of names'' ({{lang|grc|περὶ ὀνομάτων ὀρθότητος}}),<ref>{{cite book |first=Francesco |last=Ademollo |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=syap8s24tOkC&q=Cratylus |title=The Cratylus of Plato: A Commentary |page=I |publisher=Cambridge University Press |year=2011 |isbn=978-1139494694 |access-date=2015-03-26 |doi=10.1017/CBO9780511779022}}</ref> in other words, it is a critique on the subject of naming (Baxter).<ref> {{cite book |first=Timothy M. S. |last=Baxter |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=RuVGEZ1S56MC&q=Cratylus |title=The Cratylus: Plato's Critique of Naming |volume=58 |series=Philosophia Antiqua |publisher=Brill |year=1992 |isbn=9004095977 |access-date=2015-03-26 |doi=10.1163/9789004320796}}</ref> |
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When discussing |
When discussing an {{lang|grc|ὄνομα}}<ref>{{cite web |website=Perseus |url=https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=onoma&la=greek |title=Latin Word Study Tool - onoma |publisher=Tufts University |access-date=2015-03-20}}</ref> (''[[Wikt:ὄνομα|onoma]]'' <ref>{{cite book |first=A C |last=Yu |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=c60tQCowIegC&dq=Socrates+onoma+Cratylus+Shankman+Durrant+236&pg=PA236 |title=Early China/Ancient Greece: Thinking through Comparisons |editor-first1=S |editor-last1=Shankman |editor-first2=S. W. |editor-last2=Durrant |publisher=SUNY Press |year=2012 |isbn=978-0791488942 |access-date=2015-03-20}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |url=http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/cratylus.html |title=Cratylus |author=Plato |translator-first=Benjamin |translator-last=Jowett |access-date=2015-03-20}}</ref><ref>Strong's Concordance - [http://biblehub.com/greek/3686.htm onoma] Bible Hub (ed. used as secondary verification of onoma)</ref>) and how it would relate to its subject, Socrates compares the original creation of a word to the work of an artist.<ref>''Cratylus'' 390d-e.</ref> An artist uses color to express the essence of his subject in a painting. In much the same way, the creator of words uses letters containing certain sounds to express the essence of a word's subject. There is a letter that is best for soft things, one for liquid things, and so on.<ref>''Cratylus'' 431d.</ref> He comments: |
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{{quote|The best possible way to speak consists in using names all (or most) of which are like the things they name (that is, are appropriate to them), while the worst is to use the opposite kind of names.<ref>''Cratylus'' 435c.</ref>}} |
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One countering position, held by Hermogenes, is that names have come about due to custom and convention. They do not express the essence of their subject, so they can be swapped with something unrelated by the individuals or communities who use them.<ref>''Cratylus'' 383a-b.</ref> |
One countering position, held by Hermogenes, is that names have come about due to custom and convention. They do not express the essence of their subject, so they can be swapped with something unrelated by the individuals or communities who use them.<ref>''Cratylus'' 383a-b.</ref> |
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The line between the two perspectives is often blurred.{{clarify|date=December 2011}} During more than half of the dialogue, Socrates makes guesses at Hermogenes' request as to where names and words have come from. |
The line between the two perspectives is often blurred.{{clarify|date=December 2011}} During more than half of the dialogue, Socrates makes guesses at Hermogenes's request as to where names and words have come from. These include the names of the [[Twelve Olympians|Olympian gods]], personified deities, and many words that describe abstract concepts. He examines whether, for example, giving names of "streams" to [[Cronus]] and [[Rhea (mythology)|Rhea]] ({{lang|grc|Ροή}} – 'flow' or 'space') are purely accidental. |
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{{quote|Don't you think he who gave to the ancestors of the other gods the names “Rhea” and “Cronus” had the same thought as Heracleitus? Do you think he gave both of them the names of streams (ῥευμάτων ὀνόματα) merely by chance?<ref>''Cratylus'' [ |
{{quote|Don't you think he who gave to the ancestors of the other gods the names “Rhea” and “Cronus” had the same thought as Heracleitus? Do you think he gave both of them the names of streams ({{lang|grc|ῥευμάτων ὀνόματα}}) merely by chance?<ref>''Cratylus'' [https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0172%3Atext%3DCrat.%3Asection%3D402b 402b]</ref>}} |
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The Greek term "ῥεῦμα" may refer to the flow of any medium and is not restricted to the flow of water or liquids.<ref>Entry [ |
The Greek term "ῥεῦμα" may refer to the flow of any medium and is not restricted to the flow of water or liquids.<ref>Entry [https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0057%3Aentry%3Dr(eu%3Dma ῥεῦμα] at [[LSJ]]. Besides the flow liquids, "ῥεῦμα" may refer to the flow of sound ([[Epicurus]], Ep. 1p.13U), to the flow of fortune etc.</ref> Many of the words which Socrates uses as examples may have come from an idea originally linked to the name, but have changed over time. Those of which he cannot find a link, he often assumes have come from foreign origins or have changed so much as to lose all resemblance to the original word. He states, "names have been so twisted in all manner of ways, that I should not be surprised if the old language when compared with that now in use would appear to us to be a barbarous tongue."<ref>''Cratylus'' [https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Plat.+Crat.+421d&fromdoc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0172 421d]</ref> |
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The final theory of relations between name and object named is posited by Cratylus, a disciple of [[Heraclitus]], who believes that names arrive from divine origins, making them necessarily correct. |
The final theory of relations between name and object named is posited by Cratylus, a disciple of [[Heraclitus]], who believes that names arrive from divine origins, making them necessarily correct. Socrates rebukes this theory by reminding Cratylus of the imperfection of certain names in capturing the objects they seek to signify. From this point, Socrates ultimately rejects the study of language, believing it to be philosophically inferior to a study of things themselves. |
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==Name of Hades== |
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An extended section of ''Cratylus'' is devoted to the origin of the name of [[Hades]]. This etymology, through the lens of modern [[comparative linguistics]], is unknown, but has carried a [[folk etymology]] since antiquity as meaning "The Unseen One". Modern linguists have proposed a [[Proto-Greek]] form of {{transl|grc|*Awides}}, literally 'unseen'.<ref>According to Dixon-Kennedy, https://archive.org/stream/MikeDixonKennedy.......encyclopediaOfGrecoRomanMythologybyHouseOfBooks/MikeDixonKennedy.......encyclopediaOfGreco-romanMythologybyHouseOfBooks#page/n159/mode/2up p. 143] (following [[Karl Kerenyi|Kerényi]] 1951, p. 230) says "...his name means 'the unseen', a direct contrast to his brother Zeus, who was originally seen to represent the brightness of day."</ref> The earliest attested form is {{transl|grc|Aḯdēs}} ({{lang|grc|Ἀΐδης}}), which lacks the proposed [[digamma]].{{efn|[[Martin Litchfield West|West]] (2007), following [[Paul Thieme|Thieme]] (1952), argues instead for an original meaning of "the one who presides over meeting up," referring to the universality of death;<ref name="West2007">{{cite book |author-link=Martin Litchfield West |last=West |first=Martin Litchfield |title=Indo-European Poetry and Myth |publisher=Oxford University Press |year=2007 |page=394 |isbn=978-0-19-928075-9 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=ZXrJA_5LKlYC&pg=PA394}}</ref> but this derivation is widely regarded as untenable.<ref>Ivanov, p. 284,{{cn|date=November 2022}} citing Beekes 1998, pp. 17–19,{{cn|date=November 2022}} notes that derivation of Hades from a proposed {{transl|grc|*som wid-}} is semantically untenable; see also Beekes 2009, p. 34.{{cn|date=November 2022}}</ref>}} In ''Cratylus'', [[Socrates]] jocularly argues for a folk etymology not from 'unseen' but from 'his knowledge ({{transl|grc|[[wikt:εἴδω|eidenai]]}}) of all noble things". |
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The {{IPAslink|w}} sound was lost at various times in various dialects, mostly before the classical period. |
The {{IPAslink|w}} sound was lost at various times in various dialects, mostly before the classical period. |
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In [[Ionic Greek|Ionic]], {{IPAslink|w}} had probably disappeared before [[Homer]]'s epics were written down (7th century BC), but its former presence can be detected in many cases because its omission left the [[meter (poetry)|meter]] defective. For example, the words [[Anax|ἄναξ]] |
In [[Ionic Greek|Ionic]], {{IPAslink|w}} had probably disappeared before [[Homer]]'s epics were written down (7th century BC), but its former presence can be detected in many cases because its omission left the [[meter (poetry)|meter]] defective. For example, the words {{lang|grc|[[Anax|ἄναξ]]}} ({{IPA|/ánaks/}}; '[[tribal king]]', 'lord', '(military) leader')<ref>{{LSJ|a)/nac|ἄναξ|ref}}.</ref> and {{lang|grc|οἶνος}} ({{IPA|/óînos/}}; 'wine') are sometimes found in the [[Iliad]] in the meter where a word starting with a consonant would be expected. Cognate-analysis and earlier written evidence shows that earlier these words would have been {{lang|gmy|ϝάναξ}} ({{IPA|/wánaks/}}, attested to in this form in Mycenaean Greek) and {{lang|gmy|ϝοῖνος}} ({{IPA|/wóînos/}}; cf. Cretan [[Doric Greek|Doric]] {{transl|grc|ibêna}}, cf. [[Latin]] {{lang|la|vīnum}} and [[English language|English]] 'wine').<ref>{{cite book|author=Chadwick, John|author-link=John Chadwick|title=The Decipherment of Linear B|publisher=Second edition (1990). [[Cambridge University Press|Cambridge UP]]|year=1958|isbn=0-521-39830-4}}</ref><ref>{{LSJ|oi){{=}}nos1|οἶνος|ref}}: |
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:Ϝοῖνος [[Gortyn code|Leg.Gort.]] [http://epigraphy.packhum.org/inscriptions/main?url=oi%3Fikey%3D200508 col X.39]</ref> |
: {{lang|grc|Ϝοῖνος}} [[Gortyn code|Leg.Gort.]] [http://epigraphy.packhum.org/inscriptions/main?url=oi%3Fikey%3D200508 col X.39]</ref> |
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==Appropriate sounds== |
==Appropriate sounds== |
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*{{lang|grc|ρ}} ('r') is a "tool for copying every sort of motion ({{lang|grc|[[wikt:κίνησις|κίνησις]]}})."<ref>Cratylus 426c-e.</ref><ref group="foot">e.g. {{transl|grc|rhein}} ('flowing'), {{transl|grc|rhoe}} ('flow'), {{transl|grc|tromos}} ('trembling'), {{transl|grc|trechein}} ('running'), {{transl|grc|krouein}} ('striking'), {{transl|grc|thrauein}} ('crushing'), {{transl|grc|ereikein}} ('rending'), {{transl|grc|thruptein}} ('breaking'), {{transl|grc|kermatizein}} ('crumbling'), {{transl|grc|rhumbein}} ('whirling').</ref> |
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* {{lang|grc|ι}} ('i') for imitating "all the small things that can most easily penetrate everything",<ref>Cratylus 426e-427a.</ref><ref group="foot">e.g. {{transl|grc|ienai}} ('moving'), {{transl|grc|hiesthai}} ('hastening').</ref> |
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* {{lang|grc|φ}} ('phi'), {{lang|grc|ψ}} ('psi'). {{lang|grc|σ}} ('s'), and {{lang|grc|ζ}} ('z') as "all these letters are pronounced with an expulsion of breath", they are most appropriate for imitating "blowing or hard breathing".<ref name="427a">Cratylus 427a.</ref><ref group=foot>e.g. {{transl|grc|psuchron}} ('chilling'), {{transl|grc|zeon}} ('seething'), {{transl|grc|seiesthai}} ('shaking'), {{transl|grc|seismos}} ('quaking').</ref> |
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* {{lang|grc|δ}} ('d') and {{lang|grc|τ}} ('t') as both involve "compression and [the] stopping of the power of the tongue" when pronounced, they are most appropriate for words indicating a lack or stopping of motion.<ref name="427a"/><ref name="427b"/><ref group=foot>e.g. {{transl|grc|desmos}} ('shackling'), {{transl|grc|stasis}} ('rest').</ref> |
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* {{lang|grc|λ}} ('l'), as "the tongue glides most of all" when pronounced, it is most appropriate for words denoting a sort of gliding.<ref name="427b">Cratylus 427b.</ref><ref group=foot>e.g. {{transl|grc|olisthanein}} ('glide'), {{transl|grc|leion}} ('smooth'), {{transl|grc|liparon}} ('sleek'), {{transl|grc|kollodes}} ('viscous').</ref> |
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* {{lang|grc|γ}} ('g') best used when imitating "something cloying", as the gliding of the tongue is stopped when pronounced.<ref name="427b"/><ref group=foot>e.g. {{transl|grc|glischron}} ('gluey'), {{transl|grc|gluku}} ('sweet'), {{transl|grc|gloiodes}} ('clammy').</ref> |
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* {{lang|grc|ν}} ('n') best used when imitating inward things, as it is "sounded inwardly".<ref name="427b"/><ref name="427c">Cratylus 427c.</ref><ref group=foot>e.g. {{transl|grc|endon}} ('within'), {{transl|grc|entos}} ('inside').</ref> |
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* {{lang|grc|α}} ('a'), {{lang|grc|η}} ('long e') best used when imitating large things, as they are both "pronounced long".<ref name="427c"/><ref group=foot>e.g. {{transl|grc|mega}} ('large'), {{transl|grc|mekos}} ('length').</ref> |
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* {{lang|grc|ο}} ('o') best used when imitating roundness.<ref name="427c"/><ref group=foot>e.g. {{transl|grc|gongulon}} ('round').</ref> |
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Although these are clear examples of [[onomatopoeia]], Socrates's statement that words are not musical imitations of |
Although these are clear examples of [[onomatopoeia]], Socrates's statement that words are not musical imitations of nature suggests that Plato did not believe that language itself generates from sound words.<ref>{{cite book |last=Breva-Claramonte |first=Manuel |year=1982 |series=Studies in the History of the Language Sciences |volume=27 |title=Sanctius' Theory of Language: A Contribution to the History of Renaissance Linguistics |publisher=John Benjamins Publishing |page=24 |isbn=9027245053 |doi=10.1075/sihols.27}}</ref> |
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==Platonic |
==Platonic theory of forms== |
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Plato's [[theory of forms]] also makes an appearance. For example, no matter what a hammer is made out of, it is still called a "hammer", and thus is the ''form'' of a hammer: |
Plato's [[theory of forms]] also makes an appearance. For example, no matter what a hammer is made out of, it is still called a "hammer", and thus is the ''form'' of a hammer: |
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<blockquote>'''Socrates''': So mustn't a rule-setter also know how to embody in sounds and syllables the name naturally suited to each thing? And if he is to be an authentic giver of names, mustn't he, in making and giving each name, look to what a name itself is? And if different rule-setters do not make each name out of the same syllables, we mustn't forget that different blacksmiths, who are making the same tool for the same type of work, don't all make it out of the same iron. But as long as they give it the same form--even if that form is embodied in different iron--the tool will be correct, whether it is made in Greece or abroad. Isn't that so?<ref>''Cratylus'' 389d-390a1.</ref></blockquote> |
<blockquote>'''Socrates''': So mustn't a rule-setter also know how to embody in sounds and syllables the name naturally suited to each thing? And if he is to be an authentic giver of names, mustn't he, in making and giving each name, look to what a name itself is? And if different rule-setters do not make each name out of the same syllables, we mustn't forget that different blacksmiths, who are making the same tool for the same type of work, don't all make it out of the same iron. But as long as they give it the same form--even if that form is embodied in different iron--the tool will be correct, whether it is made in Greece or abroad. Isn't that so?<ref>''Cratylus'' 389d-390a1.</ref></blockquote> |
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Plato's theory of forms again appears at 439c, when Cratylus concedes the existence of "a beautiful itself, and a good itself, and the same for each one of the things that are".<ref>''Cratylus'' 439c-d.</ref> |
Plato's theory of forms again appears at 439c, when Cratylus concedes the existence of "a beautiful itself, and a good itself, and the same for each one of the things that are".<ref>''Cratylus'' 439c-d.</ref> |
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==Influence, legacy== |
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German psychologist [[Karl Ludwig Bühler]] used the Cratylus dialogue as the basis for his [[organon model]] of communication, published in 1934.<ref name="Bühler">{{cite book |last=Bühler |first=Karl |orig-year=1934 |year=1990 |trans-title=The Theory of Language: The Representational Function of Language |title=Sprachtheorie |page=35 |translator-first=Donald Fraser |translator-last=Goodwin |location=Amsterdam |publisher=John Benjamins |lccn=90020219}}</ref> |
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[[Gérard Genette]], in the work ‘Mimologie. Voyage en Cratilie’ (1976), starts from Plato's speech to argue the idea of arbitrariness of the sign: according to this thesis, already supported by the great linguist [[Ferdinand de Saussure]], the connection between language and objects is not natural, but culturally determined. The ideas developed in the Cratylus, although sometimes dated, have historically been an important point of reference in the development of Linguistics. |
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The [[August Immanuel Bekker|I.Bekker]] edition was published 1826 (London) under the heading ''Platonis Scripta Graece Omnia''.<ref name="F Ademollo">{{cite book |url=https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=syap8s24tOkC|first=Francesco |last= Ademollo|title=The Cratylus of Plato: A Commentary (xvii)|publisher=Cambridge University Press|date=3 February 2011 |ISBN=1139494694| accessdate=2015-05-10}}</ref> |
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On the basis of the Craylus [[Gaetano Licata]] has reconstructed in the essay ‘Plato’s theory of language. Perspectives on the concept of truth’ (2007, Il Melangolo), the platonic conception of semantics, according to which names have a natural link (an essential foundation) with their "nominatum".<ref>{{cite book |pages=9–100 |author-link=Gaetano Licata |first=Gaetano |last=Licata |title=Teoria platonica del linguaggio. Prospettive sul concetto di verità |location=Genova |publisher=Il Melangolo |year=2007}}</ref> |
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A translation was made by H. N. Fowler and published during 1926 under [[Loeb Classical Library]] by Harvard University Press.<ref name="Sedley, D">{{cite book |url=http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/plato-cratylus/#GreTex|author=Sedley, D|title=Plato's ''Cratylus''|publisher=The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Fall 2013 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.)| accessdate=2015-05-10}}</ref> |
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==Texts and translations== |
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* {{cite book|author=Benjamin Jowett|title=The Dialogues of Plato, in 5 vols 3rd edition revised and corrected|year=1892|url=https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/plato-the-dialogues-of-plato-in-5-vols-jowett-ed|publisher=Oxford University Press}} |
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* Plato: ''Cratylus, Parmenides, Greater Hippias, Lesser Hippias.'' With translation by Harold N. Fowler. Loeb Classical Library 167. Harvard Univ. Press (originally published 1926). {{ISBN|9780674991859}} [http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674991859 HUP listing] |
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* Plato: ''Opera'', Volume I. Oxford Classical Texts. {{ISBN|978-0198145691}} |
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* Plato: ''Complete Works.'' Hackett, 1997. {{ISBN|978-0872203495}} |
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*Dalimier, C., 1998, ''Platon, Cratyle'', Paris: Flammarion. |
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*Méridier, L., 1931, ''Platon, Cratyle'', Paris: Les belles lettres. |
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*Reeve, C. D. C., 1997, ''Plato, Cratylus: translated with introduction and notes'', Indianapolis and Cambridge: Hackett; reprinted in J.M. Cooper. (ed.) ''Plato, Complete Works'', Indianapolis and Cambridge: Hackett. |
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==See also== |
==See also== |
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* [[Cratylism]] |
* [[Cratylism]] |
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* [[Map–territory relation]] |
* [[Map–territory relation]] |
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* [[Nirukta]] |
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* [[Orthotes Onomaton]] |
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* [[Sound symbolism]] |
* [[Sound symbolism]] |
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* [[True name]] |
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==Footnotes== |
==Footnotes== |
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==References== |
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== Further reading == |
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* Ackrill, J. L., 1994, ‘Language and reality in Plato’s ''Cratylus''’, in A. Alberti (ed.) ''Realtà e ragione'', Florence: Olschki: 9–28; repr. in Ackrill, ''Essays on Plato and Aristotle'', Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1997: 33–52. |
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* Ademollo, F., 2011, ''The ‘Cratylus’ of Plato: a Commentary'', Cambridge: Cambridge University Press |
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* Annas, J., 1982, ‘Knowledge and language: the ''Theaetetus'' and ''Cratylus''’, in Schofield and Nussbaum 1982: 95–114. |
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* Barney, R., 2001, ''Names and Nature in Plato’s Cratylus'', New York and London: Routledge. |
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* Baxter, T. M. S., 1992, ''The Cratylus: Plato’s Critique of Naming'', Leiden: Brill. |
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* Calvert, B., 1970, ‘Forms and flux in Plato’s ''Cratylus''’, ''Phronesis'', 15: 26–47. |
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* Grote, G., 1865, ''Plato and the Other Companions of Sokrates'', 3 vols., London: John Murray. |
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* Kahn, C. H., 1973, ‘Language and ontology in the ''Cratylus''’, in E. N. Lee, A. P. D. Mourelatos, R. M. Rorty (ed.), ''Exegesis and Argument'', New York: Humanities Press, 152–76. |
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* Ketchum, R. J., 1979, ‘Names, Forms and conventionalism: ''Cratylus'' 383–395’, ''Phronesis'', 24: 133–47 |
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* Kretzmann, N., 1971, ‘Plato on the correctness of names’, ''American Philosophical Quarterly'', 8: 126–38 |
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* Levin, S. B., 2001, ''The Ancient Quarrel between Philosophy and Poetry Revisited. Plato and the Literary Tradition'', Oxford: Oxford University Press. |
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* Mackenzie, M. M., 1986, ‘Putting the ''Cratylus'' in its place’, ''Classical Quarterly'', 36: 124–50. |
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* Robinson, R., 1969, ‘The theory of names in Plato’s ''Cratylus''’ and ‘A criticism of Plato’s ''Cratylus''’, in ''Essays in Greek Philosophy'', Oxford: Clarendon Press, 100–38. |
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* Schofield, M., 1982, ‘The dénouement of the ''Cratylus''’, in Schofield and Nussbaum 1982: 61–81. |
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* Schofield, M., and Nussbaum, M. (ed.), 1982, ''Language and Logos'', Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. |
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* Silverman, A., 2001, ‘The end of the ''Cratylus'': limning the world’, ''Ancient Philosophy'', 21: 1–18. |
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* Williams, B., 1982, ‘Cratylus’ theory of names and its refutation’, in Schofield and Nussbaum 1982: 83–93. |
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* Allan, D. J., 1954, ‘The problem of Cratylus’, ''American Journal of Philology'', 75: 271–87. |
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* Kirk, G. S., 1951, ‘The problem of Cratylus’, ''American Journal of Philology'', 72: 225–53. |
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* Luce, J. V., 1964, ‘The date of the ''Cratylus''’, ''American Journal of Philology'', 85: 136–54. |
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* Ross, W. D., 1955, ‘The date of Plato’s ''Cratylus''’, ''Revue Internationale de Philosophie'', 32: 187–96. |
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Cratylus (/ˈkrætɪləs/ KRAT-il-əs; Ancient Greek: Κρατύλος, Kratylos) is the name of a dialogue by Plato. Most modern scholars agree that it was written mostly during Plato's so-called middle period.[1] In the dialogue, Socrates is asked by two men, Cratylus and Hermogenes, to tell them whether names are "conventional" or "natural", that is, whether language is a system of arbitrary signs or whether words have an intrinsic relation to the things they signify.
The individual Cratylus was the first intellectual influence on Plato.[2] Aristotle states that Cratylus influenced Plato by introducing to him the teachings of Heraclitus, according to MW. Riley.[3]
Summary
The subject of Cratylus is on the correctness of names (περὶ ὀνομάτων ὀρθότητος),[4] in other words, it is a critique on the subject of naming (Baxter).[5]
When discussing an ὄνομα[6] (onoma [7][8][9]) and how it would relate to its subject, Socrates compares the original creation of a word to the work of an artist.[10] An artist uses color to express the essence of his subject in a painting. In much the same way, the creator of words uses letters containing certain sounds to express the essence of a word's subject. There is a letter that is best for soft things, one for liquid things, and so on.[11] He comments:
The best possible way to speak consists in using names all (or most) of which are like the things they name (that is, are appropriate to them), while the worst is to use the opposite kind of names.[12]
One countering position, held by Hermogenes, is that names have come about due to custom and convention. They do not express the essence of their subject, so they can be swapped with something unrelated by the individuals or communities who use them.[13]
The line between the two perspectives is often blurred.[clarification needed] During more than half of the dialogue, Socrates makes guesses at Hermogenes's request as to where names and words have come from. These include the names of the Olympian gods, personified deities, and many words that describe abstract concepts. He examines whether, for example, giving names of "streams" to Cronus and Rhea (Ροή – 'flow' or 'space') are purely accidental.
Don't you think he who gave to the ancestors of the other gods the names “Rhea” and “Cronus” had the same thought as Heracleitus? Do you think he gave both of them the names of streams (ῥευμάτων ὀνόματα) merely by chance?[14]
The Greek term "ῥεῦμα" may refer to the flow of any medium and is not restricted to the flow of water or liquids.[15] Many of the words which Socrates uses as examples may have come from an idea originally linked to the name, but have changed over time. Those of which he cannot find a link, he often assumes have come from foreign origins or have changed so much as to lose all resemblance to the original word. He states, "names have been so twisted in all manner of ways, that I should not be surprised if the old language when compared with that now in use would appear to us to be a barbarous tongue."[16]
The final theory of relations between name and object named is posited by Cratylus, a disciple of Heraclitus, who believes that names arrive from divine origins, making them necessarily correct. Socrates rebukes this theory by reminding Cratylus of the imperfection of certain names in capturing the objects they seek to signify. From this point, Socrates ultimately rejects the study of language, believing it to be philosophically inferior to a study of things themselves.
Name of Hades
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An extended section of Cratylus is devoted to the origin of the name of Hades. This etymology, through the lens of modern comparative linguistics, is unknown, but has carried a folk etymology since antiquity as meaning "The Unseen One". Modern linguists have proposed a Proto-Greek form of *Awides, literally 'unseen'.[17] The earliest attested form is Aḯdēs (Ἀΐδης), which lacks the proposed digamma.[a] In Cratylus, Socrates jocularly argues for a folk etymology not from 'unseen' but from 'his knowledge (eidenai) of all noble things".
Hades' name in classical Greek
The /w/ sound was lost at various times in various dialects, mostly before the classical period.
In Ionic, /w/ had probably disappeared before Homer's epics were written down (7th century BC), but its former presence can be detected in many cases because its omission left the meter defective. For example, the words ἄναξ (/ánaks/; 'tribal king', 'lord', '(military) leader')[20] and οἶνος (/óînos/; 'wine') are sometimes found in the Iliad in the meter where a word starting with a consonant would be expected. Cognate-analysis and earlier written evidence shows that earlier these words would have been ϝάναξ (/wánaks/, attested to in this form in Mycenaean Greek) and ϝοῖνος (/wóînos/; cf. Cretan Doric ibêna, cf. Latin vīnum and English 'wine').[21][22]
Appropriate sounds
- ρ ('r') is a "tool for copying every sort of motion (κίνησις)."[23][foot 1]
- ι ('i') for imitating "all the small things that can most easily penetrate everything",[24][foot 2]
- φ ('phi'), ψ ('psi'). σ ('s'), and ζ ('z') as "all these letters are pronounced with an expulsion of breath", they are most appropriate for imitating "blowing or hard breathing".[25][foot 3]
- δ ('d') and τ ('t') as both involve "compression and [the] stopping of the power of the tongue" when pronounced, they are most appropriate for words indicating a lack or stopping of motion.[25][26][foot 4]
- λ ('l'), as "the tongue glides most of all" when pronounced, it is most appropriate for words denoting a sort of gliding.[26][foot 5]
- γ ('g') best used when imitating "something cloying", as the gliding of the tongue is stopped when pronounced.[26][foot 6]
- ν ('n') best used when imitating inward things, as it is "sounded inwardly".[26][27][foot 7]
- α ('a'), η ('long e') best used when imitating large things, as they are both "pronounced long".[27][foot 8]
- ο ('o') best used when imitating roundness.[27][foot 9]
Although these are clear examples of onomatopoeia, Socrates's statement that words are not musical imitations of nature suggests that Plato did not believe that language itself generates from sound words.[28]
Platonic theory of forms
Plato's theory of forms also makes an appearance. For example, no matter what a hammer is made out of, it is still called a "hammer", and thus is the form of a hammer:
Socrates: So mustn't a rule-setter also know how to embody in sounds and syllables the name naturally suited to each thing? And if he is to be an authentic giver of names, mustn't he, in making and giving each name, look to what a name itself is? And if different rule-setters do not make each name out of the same syllables, we mustn't forget that different blacksmiths, who are making the same tool for the same type of work, don't all make it out of the same iron. But as long as they give it the same form--even if that form is embodied in different iron--the tool will be correct, whether it is made in Greece or abroad. Isn't that so?[29]
Plato's theory of forms again appears at 439c, when Cratylus concedes the existence of "a beautiful itself, and a good itself, and the same for each one of the things that are".[30]
Influence, legacy
German psychologist Karl Ludwig Bühler used the Cratylus dialogue as the basis for his organon model of communication, published in 1934.[31]
Gérard Genette, in the work ‘Mimologie. Voyage en Cratilie’ (1976), starts from Plato's speech to argue the idea of arbitrariness of the sign: according to this thesis, already supported by the great linguist Ferdinand de Saussure, the connection between language and objects is not natural, but culturally determined. The ideas developed in the Cratylus, although sometimes dated, have historically been an important point of reference in the development of Linguistics.
On the basis of the Craylus Gaetano Licata has reconstructed in the essay ‘Plato’s theory of language. Perspectives on the concept of truth’ (2007, Il Melangolo), the platonic conception of semantics, according to which names have a natural link (an essential foundation) with their "nominatum".[32]
Texts and translations
- An early translation was made by Thomas Taylor in 1804.
- Benjamin Jowett (1892). The Dialogues of Plato, in 5 vols 3rd edition revised and corrected. Oxford University Press.
- Plato: Cratylus, Parmenides, Greater Hippias, Lesser Hippias. With translation by Harold N. Fowler. Loeb Classical Library 167. Harvard Univ. Press (originally published 1926). ISBN 9780674991859 HUP listing
- Plato: Opera, Volume I. Oxford Classical Texts. ISBN 978-0198145691
- Plato: Complete Works. Hackett, 1997. ISBN 978-0872203495
- Dalimier, C., 1998, Platon, Cratyle, Paris: Flammarion.
- Méridier, L., 1931, Platon, Cratyle, Paris: Les belles lettres.
- Reeve, C. D. C., 1997, Plato, Cratylus: translated with introduction and notes, Indianapolis and Cambridge: Hackett; reprinted in J.M. Cooper. (ed.) Plato, Complete Works, Indianapolis and Cambridge: Hackett.
See also
Footnotes
- ^ e.g. rhein ('flowing'), rhoe ('flow'), tromos ('trembling'), trechein ('running'), krouein ('striking'), thrauein ('crushing'), ereikein ('rending'), thruptein ('breaking'), kermatizein ('crumbling'), rhumbein ('whirling').
- ^ e.g. ienai ('moving'), hiesthai ('hastening').
- ^ e.g. psuchron ('chilling'), zeon ('seething'), seiesthai ('shaking'), seismos ('quaking').
- ^ e.g. desmos ('shackling'), stasis ('rest').
- ^ e.g. olisthanein ('glide'), leion ('smooth'), liparon ('sleek'), kollodes ('viscous').
- ^ e.g. glischron ('gluey'), gluku ('sweet'), gloiodes ('clammy').
- ^ e.g. endon ('within'), entos ('inside').
- ^ e.g. mega ('large'), mekos ('length').
- ^ e.g. gongulon ('round').
References
- ^ Sedley, David (2003). Plato's Cratylus (PDF). Cambridge University Press. pp. 6, 13–14. ISBN 0-521-58492-2.
- ^ Sedley, D (6 November 2003). Plato's Cratylus. Cambridge University Press. p. 2. ISBN 1139439197. Retrieved 26 March 2015.
- ^ Riley, Michael W. (2005). Plato's Cratylus: Argument, Form, and Structure. Rodopi. p. 29. ISBN 9789042018754. Retrieved 27 March 2015.
- ^ Ademollo, Francesco (2011). The Cratylus of Plato: A Commentary. Cambridge University Press. p. I. doi:10.1017/CBO9780511779022. ISBN 978-1139494694. Retrieved 26 March 2015.
- ^ Baxter, Timothy M. S. (1992). The Cratylus: Plato's Critique of Naming. Philosophia Antiqua. Vol. 58. Brill. doi:10.1163/9789004320796. ISBN 9004095977. Retrieved 26 March 2015.
- ^ "Latin Word Study Tool - onoma". Perseus. Tufts University. Retrieved 20 March 2015.
- ^ Yu, A C (2012). Shankman, S; Durrant, S. W. (eds.). Early China/Ancient Greece: Thinking through Comparisons. SUNY Press. ISBN 978-0791488942. Retrieved 20 March 2015.
- ^ Plato. "Cratylus". Translated by Jowett, Benjamin. Retrieved 20 March 2015.
- ^ Strong's Concordance - onoma Bible Hub (ed. used as secondary verification of onoma)
- ^ Cratylus 390d-e.
- ^ Cratylus 431d.
- ^ Cratylus 435c.
- ^ Cratylus 383a-b.
- ^ Cratylus 402b
- ^ Entry ῥεῦμα at LSJ. Besides the flow liquids, "ῥεῦμα" may refer to the flow of sound (Epicurus, Ep. 1p.13U), to the flow of fortune etc.
- ^ Cratylus 421d
- ^ According to Dixon-Kennedy, https://archive.org/stream/MikeDixonKennedy.......encyclopediaOfGrecoRomanMythologybyHouseOfBooks/MikeDixonKennedy.......encyclopediaOfGreco-romanMythologybyHouseOfBooks#page/n159/mode/2up p. 143] (following Kerényi 1951, p. 230) says "...his name means 'the unseen', a direct contrast to his brother Zeus, who was originally seen to represent the brightness of day."
- ^ West, Martin Litchfield (2007). Indo-European Poetry and Myth. Oxford University Press. p. 394. ISBN 978-0-19-928075-9.
- ^ Ivanov, p. 284,[citation needed] citing Beekes 1998, pp. 17–19,[citation needed] notes that derivation of Hades from a proposed *som wid- is semantically untenable; see also Beekes 2009, p. 34.[citation needed]
- ^ ἄναξ. Liddell, Henry George; Scott, Robert; A Greek–English Lexicon at the Perseus Project.
- ^ Chadwick, John (1958). The Decipherment of Linear B. Second edition (1990). Cambridge UP. ISBN 0-521-39830-4.
- ^ οἶνος. Liddell, Henry George; Scott, Robert; A Greek–English Lexicon at the Perseus Project:
- ^ Cratylus 426c-e.
- ^ Cratylus 426e-427a.
- ^ a b Cratylus 427a.
- ^ a b c d Cratylus 427b.
- ^ a b c Cratylus 427c.
- ^ Breva-Claramonte, Manuel (1982). Sanctius' Theory of Language: A Contribution to the History of Renaissance Linguistics. Studies in the History of the Language Sciences. Vol. 27. John Benjamins Publishing. p. 24. doi:10.1075/sihols.27. ISBN 9027245053.
- ^ Cratylus 389d-390a1.
- ^ Cratylus 439c-d.
- ^ Bühler, Karl (1990) [1934]. Sprachtheorie [The Theory of Language: The Representational Function of Language]. Translated by Goodwin, Donald Fraser. Amsterdam: John Benjamins. p. 35. LCCN 90020219.
- ^ Licata, Gaetano (2007). Teoria platonica del linguaggio. Prospettive sul concetto di verità. Genova: Il Melangolo. pp. 9–100.
Further reading
- Ackrill, J. L., 1994, ‘Language and reality in Plato’s Cratylus’, in A. Alberti (ed.) Realtà e ragione, Florence: Olschki: 9–28; repr. in Ackrill, Essays on Plato and Aristotle, Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1997: 33–52.
- Ademollo, F., 2011, The ‘Cratylus’ of Plato: a Commentary, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press
- Annas, J., 1982, ‘Knowledge and language: the Theaetetus and Cratylus’, in Schofield and Nussbaum 1982: 95–114.
- Barney, R., 2001, Names and Nature in Plato’s Cratylus, New York and London: Routledge.
- Baxter, T. M. S., 1992, The Cratylus: Plato’s Critique of Naming, Leiden: Brill.
- Calvert, B., 1970, ‘Forms and flux in Plato’s Cratylus’, Phronesis, 15: 26–47.
- Grote, G., 1865, Plato and the Other Companions of Sokrates, 3 vols., London: John Murray.
- Kahn, C. H., 1973, ‘Language and ontology in the Cratylus’, in E. N. Lee, A. P. D. Mourelatos, R. M. Rorty (ed.), Exegesis and Argument, New York: Humanities Press, 152–76.
- Ketchum, R. J., 1979, ‘Names, Forms and conventionalism: Cratylus 383–395’, Phronesis, 24: 133–47
- Kretzmann, N., 1971, ‘Plato on the correctness of names’, American Philosophical Quarterly, 8: 126–38
- Levin, S. B., 2001, The Ancient Quarrel between Philosophy and Poetry Revisited. Plato and the Literary Tradition, Oxford: Oxford University Press.
- Mackenzie, M. M., 1986, ‘Putting the Cratylus in its place’, Classical Quarterly, 36: 124–50.
- Robinson, R., 1969, ‘The theory of names in Plato’s Cratylus’ and ‘A criticism of Plato’s Cratylus’, in Essays in Greek Philosophy, Oxford: Clarendon Press, 100–38.
- Schofield, M., 1982, ‘The dénouement of the Cratylus’, in Schofield and Nussbaum 1982: 61–81.
- Schofield, M., and Nussbaum, M. (ed.), 1982, Language and Logos, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
- Silverman, A., 2001, ‘The end of the Cratylus: limning the world’, Ancient Philosophy, 21: 1–18.
- Williams, B., 1982, ‘Cratylus’ theory of names and its refutation’, in Schofield and Nussbaum 1982: 83–93.
- Allan, D. J., 1954, ‘The problem of Cratylus’, American Journal of Philology, 75: 271–87.
- Kirk, G. S., 1951, ‘The problem of Cratylus’, American Journal of Philology, 72: 225–53.
- Luce, J. V., 1964, ‘The date of the Cratylus’, American Journal of Philology, 85: 136–54.
- Ross, W. D., 1955, ‘The date of Plato’s Cratylus’, Revue Internationale de Philosophie, 32: 187–96.
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- Cratylus, in a collection of Plato's Dialogues at Standard Ebooks
- Bibliography on Plato's Cratylus (PDF)
- Cratylus translation by Benjamin Jowett (1892) starting at Page 323
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