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Proposed deletion of Lifestyle and Mental Health

The article Lifestyle and Mental Health has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

There are lots of articles that are cited 1000 times (or more). Generally, those are just mentions, only rarely is there a discussion of those articles. Does not meet WP:GNG.

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Hello Randykitty, I was thinking you were right after looking only at PubMed indexed literature, but after a Google Books search, I made some improvements to the article and removed the template with an explanatory diff. Thank you. Biosthmors (talk) 17:14, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

I'll wait a moment until the article is converted to an article covering the topic, using the Walsh article as a source, rather than an article about the Walsh review. If it's not going to be converted, I'll take this to WP:AFD. There's thousands of articles like this review, cited thousands of times and discussed in other articles: that's how science advances, by discussing each others work and ideas. Only rarely is a journal article important enough to justify a WP entry. This is not one of them. --Randykitty (talk) 11:36, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Randykitty, I have converted the article. Any current thoughts relating to WP:AFD? Also, while attempting to wp:build the web, I found Therapeutic Lifestyle Change (depression treatment), which I find concerning because that article is written as if it is supposed to be branded to one academic instead of a generalized concept. The topic of therapeutic lifestyle changes is a big part of Walsh's 2011 review, but the Therapeutic Lifestyle Change (depression treatment) article is written as if it is branded to one academic. Meanwhile, Walsh doesn't even cite Ilardi. I tagged the article with {{unbalanced}}. In fact, it strikes me as more of an advertisement as currently written. Thoughts? Biosthmors (talk) 14:21, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, that article is indeed unbalanced and somewhat promotional. I'd see it as a start, to be merged with Lifestyle and Mental Health (LaMH). "Lifestyle and mental health" would probably the best title for such an article, with the "therapeutic" article condensed into one section. As it stands, the LaMH article still is about the Wash article. While it probably is a valuable source, it doesn't merit its own article, IMHO. --Randykitty (talk) 15:16, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Well here I mention that "Mental_health#Prevention_and_promotion seems to be the currently existing landing point for the topic we could call lifestyle and mental health. I speculate that that section is ripe for improvement and that another separate article on the topic isn't needed." The editor there appeared to agree. As someone who has improved and maintained a disease article for about a decade to WP:MEDRS sourcing requirements, I'm kind of thrilled at the idea of an article about an article giving a snapshot in time of medical / scientific / psychological thought. Similarly, I detest all the "Management of Z" articles (where "Z" = a disease) around here. Given the abstracts of [1] and [2], Randykitty, wouldn't you think an article on Lifestyle and Mental Health meets WP:GNG, similar to how books become notable through independent reviews? Personally, I think there should be a lot more articles about "articles" (books, clinical trials, articles, etc.) on this project, of course conforming to WP:GNG. Biosthmors (talk) 19:43, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

• No. Empathically. --Randykitty (talk) 22:04, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

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