Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2017 April 17

April 17

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was procedural close. Userboxes belong at WP:MFD. (non-admin closure) – Train2104 (t • c) 05:47, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

• Template:404 error (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Patent nonsense. Also not used on Wikipedia's 404 page. UpsandDowns1234 (Talk to me) (My Contribs) 21:18, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

Template:Loki Entertainment

• Template:Loki Entertainment (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

We don't keep navboxes for games produced by a company, as it's a non-defining trait and the games have next to no relation between each other. Specifically in this case, the publisher creates ports (versions of a game for a specific platform) and isn't even the main producer of the games. czar 17:43, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Template:Caparica

• Template:Caparica (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused Frietjes (talk) 13:54, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Template:Capitals of Brazil

• Template:Capitals of Brazil (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused Frietjes (talk) 13:54, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Template:Capitals of medieval Arab realms

• Template:Capitals of medieval Arab realms (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused Frietjes (talk) 13:53, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

• Link to previous TfD whose outcome was "rename". Pings to those participants who aren't already notified: Cplakidas and Presidentman. – Uanfala (talk) 19:49, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Template:Card game categories

• Template:Card game categories (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused Frietjes (talk) 13:53, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Template:BocaRiverTable

• Template:BocaRiverTable (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused Frietjes (talk) 13:38, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Keep, update as per Superclásico#Head-to-head_record, and use it at that location. Mariano(t/c) 08:25, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Template:Warrington - 1973–74 Captain Morgan Trophy winners

• Template:Warrington - 1973–74 Captain Morgan Trophy winners (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Nominating this per WP:NENAN. Creating navboxes for the winning squads of minor rugby league competitions will just cause template creep. J Mo 101 (talk) 10:41, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Keep - First-grade trophy. Not sure I really need to add more, but the fact that it was so short-lived makes it all the more notable.Fleets (talk) 14:17, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm not questioning the notability of the article – see my reply to DynamoDegsy below. J Mo 101 (talk) 17:51, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Keep - Although the Captain Morgan Trophy only ran for one season, it was competed for by the top sides of the era, and the competition is notable enough for its own article, so surely the winners (and the runners-up Featherstone Rovers) "deserve" a template? Best reagrds DynamoDegsy (talk) 15:08, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

I've no problem with the article itself, or even the squads for the final being listed there - it's the navboxes which are excessive. I think it's fine to use navboxes for the winning squads of major tournaments, as they are often defining points of a player's career, but we have to draw a line somewhere, as overusing them just creates excessive clutter at the bottom of articles. J Mo 101 (talk) 17:51, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

I would say you have landed on the wrong side of the line then. Were this to be the Emirates Cup then I could take your point, but a first-team trophy, with top flight sides in competition, during the regular season, then I really cannot understand your raising this as potential for deletion. By inference or otherwise, defining this as clutter does not put you in the best light I'm afraid, but thats Just My Opinion.Fleets (talk) 20:00, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Template:Dark Horse tracks

• Template:Dark Horse tracks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This isn't what the template namespace is for: this template is hard-coded to be used only on the songs articles of the album.Gonejackal (talk) 02:54, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Previous TfDs for this template: Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 August 18 § Template:Dark Horse tracks – no consensus

Template:Selfsubst

• Template:Selfsubst (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template is apparently no longer used; no transclusions and insource:selfsubst shows only the usage of Template:Selfsubst/now string in some sensitive pages. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:39, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

• Cool, I forgot about this little piece of template magic. I wrote those templates to automatize versioning of popups -- but removed that transclusion myself from the source in [1].
  Anyway, I'm fine with it being deleted, would do so myself -- but what do you mean with "insource:selfsubst", Jo-Jo Eumerus? I'm not aware that selfsubst or any of it's subpages are used anymore
  Amalthea 11:06, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

  @Amalthea: "insource" is a prefix in the search function. It can be used to find text in the page source, such as in functions within a template. Useful if you want to find out whether a a parser function or switch calls a particular template. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:06, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

  Ah I see. FTR, both {{Selfsubst}} and {{Selfsubst/_language/js}} *are* currently in use in all the pages that copied popups.js at the time, e.g. User:UncleDouggie/Gadget-popups.js. Test it: Press edit on that page and 'Show changes'.
  If you delete the selfsubst templates then please be sure to a) delete all the subpages! and b) *start* with {{Selfsubst/now string}}
  Otherwise I have no idea what will end up in those pages if they see edits. Substing a non-existant template will instead cause no changes at all, which is what you want.
  Amalthea 13:38, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

• delete, we don't need it. Frietjes (talk) 15:28, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 00:47, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Template:Checkip/Preload

• Template:Checkip/Preload (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template is no longer employed on Template:Checkip Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:35, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

• Comment Still in use on the "tag" link of {{Checkip}}. – Train2104 (t • c) 21:10, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

  Hum. Is there a reason why it has to be in a subpage? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:28, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

  No, you can preload any template as far as I know, but why keep them under separate names? – Train2104 (t • c)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 00:47, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Template:Checkuser/Preload

• Template:Checkuser/Preload (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template is no longer used by Template:Checkuser apparently Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:34, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

• Comment Still in use on the "tag" link of {{Checkuser}}. – Train2104 (t • c) 21:09, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

  Hum. Is there a reason why it has to be in a subpage? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:28, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 00:47, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Template:Colorado State University presidents

• Template:Colorado State University presidents (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Two links, fails WP:EXISTING. Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 22:40, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

It is three links, but that is still not enough. Delete....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 17:23, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

keep, I added a couple more links. Frietjes (talk) 19:15, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 00:15, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 00:46, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

• Withdraw nomination. Navbox now has more than four (4) links which is enough to navigate. Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 19:01, 18 April 2017 (UTC)