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I think the battle diagram is misleading and needs to be deleted or redrawn. The sizes of the fleets seem to be misrepresented. The Athenians were actually numerically stronger with 86 triremes, while the Peloponnesians had 60-80.[1] But the main problem is that the squadrons of Theramenes and Thrasybulus didn't come out from opposite directions behind the Spartans, as suggested in the diagram. It is true that they had been lured out by a small decoy Athenian fleet of 20 ships.[2] But Theramenes and Thrasybulus had been hiding together behind a single promontory and came out together. Alcibiades had also placed troops on land under cover of darkness. The promontory where the bulk of the Athenian fleet (66 ships) had been hiding was the one between Cyzicus and Artace on the west coast.[3] Neither Diodorus nor Xenophon say that Thrasybulus and Theramenes came from opposite directions.[4]
--MPCR (talk) 22:58, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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^Xenophon says the Spartans had 60 (Hellenica, 1.1.11-13, 16) but Diodorus (the weaker source) says 80 (13.50.2).
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