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Recently, there were two instances of United Airlines aircraft being involved in minor accidents ([1]UAL 35) and (UAL 2477). Do we include them in the table?
Also why is the accidents section formatted in a table; normally the accidents section is formatted into paragraphs, yes? LucsLee (talk) 19:09, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No. These two incidents do not meet the minimum threshold of notability set forth at WP:AIRCRASH. As to why it's a table, I don't know. I know tables aren't preferred, but I'm not sure it's any better or worse than the prose format. RickyCourtney (talk) 20:45, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RickyCourtney ahhh ok I was curious as to why my edit was removed as it was technically notable incident that will probably result in a rebuild of the aircraft. After reading the qualifications of WP:AIRCRASH you're right. I wonder if there would be a better category use like aircraft incidents or accidents? Maybe both on the page?
I'm fine with changing up the format, but if the incidents don't meet the minimum threshold of notability set forth at WP:AIRCRASH, there's not a compelling reason to include them anywhere on Wikipedia. There are several "incidents" every week that get varying degrees of coverage. The point of the WP:AIRCRASH standard is to not get airline, aircraft and airport pages clogged up with these less important incidents. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 21:32, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK I reformatted the section to better present the data. Maybe this method would be a better standard to use for other similar pages. Funforme3 (talk) 19:11, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not a huge fan of this change. While I agree that these lists are better than the table, they don't add much detail.
As I see it, the problem with the changes is that it left a lot of incidents with no explination whatsoever. For example, in 2020, we now list N816UA and N26123 with no links or explinations as to why those are listed.
Exactly why they are placed into a collapsible list with the flight numbers or aircraft registration. If there is an accident with its own page you can hyperlink to it and not fill a page so long with descriptions of each incident that it ends up becoming a big eye sore of garbage. The forward redirect in the top of the collapsed list is there with the text to tell readers for more detail of each incident and a more complete list to view the category list of accidents and incidents. Due to the way this has been I have been making and updating these lists including making new list pages for categories containing all the extra detail of each incident. This leaves it so any page linked via category of a new incident or page it is automatically added. Soo you might have undone the work I did on one page but it has a use and purpose. Many were asking for changes like this on a few pages and I obliged and received some thanks for the update. Funforme3 (talk) 23:15, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, the problem is that we are left with entires that just contain the aircraft's registration number and no further details for the reader. A single sentance is not an eyesore or garbage, it's a summary. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 23:22, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It looks verifiable, to my standard of evidence. Context matters when sourcing an article. If it's important to have a figure (and I think it is), 967 seems like an accurate one. John (talk) 17:58, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, sorry for the late reply. So for the sources, SimpleFlying is generally unreliable, Airfleets' reliability is questionable so I wouldn't consider it reliable and as for Flightradar24, I don't have much of an opinion on its reliability though I would lean unreliable for topics like this.
In my opinion, I feel like we should just cite the official fleet count coming directly from the airline itself as they publish these numbers along with their financial revenue: List of financial releases. Their most recently published release, [2], says that they currently have 1,369 aircraft in their fleet, which is where you can see the problem with these sources. SimpleFlying's, Airfleets' and Flightradar24's count don't seem to corroborate with United Airlines' official release count. So per United Airlines, 1,369 aircrafts seems to be the official fleet count. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 17:29, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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"United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby initially blamed FAA understaffing as the root cause of hundreds of cancellations, however United States Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg pushed back on these claims citing industry funded research" needs a semicolon or period before however. AGehlot (talk) 05:27, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Change fleet count in side banner from 972 to 969 in order to match updated fleet count from fleet site that reflects recent A320 retirements. FlySlow440 (talk) 23:14, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]