Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 7
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 7, 2023.
Salaga Senior High School(SASS)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:33, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Salaga Senior High School(SASS) → Salaga Senior High School (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Implausible typo and page move redirect that only existed from 00:44, 6 June 2023 (when page was created) to 04:35, 6 June 2023. Only 3 views in past 30 days. (CSD was declined due to its age.) Skynxnex (talk) 23:33, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete due to malformed modifier --Lenticel (talk) 00:17, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per Lenticel. I'm not sure it's plausible without a space between the disambiguator and title. Regards, SONIC678 05:32, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per above. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk | edits) Feel free to ping me! 02:51, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
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Petrushene, Mykolaiv Raion
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 15#Petrushene, Mykolaiv Raion
Cromwellate
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- The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) - RichT|C|E-Mail 14:05, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Cromwellate → The Protectorate (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete - Unlikely search term - Searching it on Google yields no results where the term may be used - RichT|C|E-Mail 23:20, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Comment As the creator of this redirect I figure I can't vote either way, but the term "Cromwellate" does pop up occasionally in 19th century English texts (as can be seen by searching the term on Google Books), which is why I made said redirect. --Ismail (talk) 23:53, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Contrary to the nominator, searching on Google does bring up results using the word in this context, particularly old works by Charles Badham and Samuel Taylor Coleridge. These results were found searching directly on Google rather than through Google Books. Searching on Google Books I was able to find those results plus other uses, such as this 19th century periodical. The article mentions Cromwell; I don't think it would be too suprising as an {{r from synonym}}. – Scyrme (talk) 00:46, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- As a note, of the results I saw for Coleridge some were later works quoting him such as Roberta Florence Brinkley's Coleridge on the Seventeenth Century (1955) and Robert Conquest's We & They (1980). A reader could, then, encounter the term in more recent works without having to dig through old 19th publications. – Scyrme (talk) 01:00, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
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Child Bringing Bouquet to Woman
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:33, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Child Bringing Bouquet to Woman → Eadweard Muybridge (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned on target article - RichT|C|E-Mail 23:06, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Comment seems to be one of his works. I'll hold my vote for now until someone more knowledgeable determine if said work is notable enough to add into the article --Lenticel (talk) 00:20, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- I'm assuming this refers to c:Category:Nude child bringing a bouquet to a semi-nude woman. It's not currently mentioned in any article, as far as I can tell. Delete unless a mention is added somewhere. - Eureka Lott 08:08, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per EurekaLott --Lenticel (talk) 02:56, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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日航ジャンボ機墜落事故
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- The result of the discussion was keep. ✗plicit 23:33, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- 日航ジャンボ機墜落事故 → Japan Air Lines Flight 123 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete - Unlikely search team, especially on English Wikipedia - RichT|C|E-Mail 22:28, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:FORRED. I agree it's not a likely search term, but it is the sourced Japanese name for the topic, an airline flight and incident which occurred in Japan. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 02:08, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: per WP:FORRED. Plausible search term, as it's a direct translation and the Japanese Wikipedia article has that name. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:05, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per above; mentioned at target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:53, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per above --Lenticel (talk) 12:08, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
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Maoist insurgency
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to People's war. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 05:58, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- Maoist insurgency → Naxalite–Maoist insurgency (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Maoist insurgent → Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist Centre) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These should point to the same place and both seem far too vague. Compare unrelated Maoist insurgencies at Maoist insurgency in Bangladesh, Maoist insurgency in Turkey and Internal conflict in Peru. I guess we may need a disambiguation page or retarget to Maoism. The second was created by a sock apparently known for questionable redirect creations (albeit before the block so not eligible for G5), and the first by a user with a grand total of two edits. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:28, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to People's war: This covers the concept of Maoist insurgencies broadly and has a list of them, for all intents and purposes with a lot of them specifically being called "Maoist insurgency in X". TartarTorte 23:05, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget both to People's war per TartarTorte. The article explicitly mentions both "insurgency" and "insurgents", so it would not be surprising. Readers looking for specific insurgencies will likely find them at People's war § List of people's wars (which includes both current targets). – Scyrme (talk) 23:13, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
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Aromatic fatty acid
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:33, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Aromatic fatty acid → Fatty acid (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at target. Only mentioned in some steroid templates such as Template:Structural properties of selected estradiol esters where it was linked, but I have edited these links to point to aromatic, which is the relevant property, as fatty acid is already linked with the redirect straight-chain fatty acid. Mdewman6 (talk) 22:15, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete as D10:
the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject
. Wikipedia doesn't appear to have a general overview anywhere. The only mentions in articles are uses describing specific examples as such. Best to clear the way until relevant content is added somewhere, whether as a new article at this title or as a section somewhere else. – Scyrme (talk) 23:09, 7 September 2023 (UTC) - Delete; no mention at Aromaticity either. 1234qwer1234qwer4 13:29, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per Scyrme --Lenticel (talk) 02:58, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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Goosebumps (upcoming TV series)
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- The result of the discussion was keep. ✗plicit 23:34, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Goosebumps (upcoming TV series) → Goosebumps (2023 TV series) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This is no longer a "upcoming" but has a specified date of release Ebbedlila (talk) 19:52, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:LINKROT: {{R from move}} for an article that was at this title nearly two years; points unambiguously to the correct target, and sees a daily average of more than 250 views. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:02, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per Ivanvector. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:28, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per above. Honestly I don't quite see why these have routinely been nominated here, as they are usually harmless and can be helpful. 1234qwer1234qwer4 13:27, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Can't believe I'm saying this, but keep. Ebbedlila, WP:UFILM specifically says to wait a reasonable amount of time before nominating a redirect for deletion. InfiniteNexus (talk) 16:06, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
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Operation Dessert hawk
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- The result of the discussion was Speedy delete (G6). Sam Walton (talk) 23:17, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Operation Dessert hawk → Rann of Kutch conflict (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Speedy delete. Qualifies for WP:G6:
pages unambiguously created in error
. Even had this not been created by mistake, the misspelling combined with inconsistent capitalisation (capital 'D', lowercase 'h') make it implausible. – Scyrme (talk) 19:44, 7 September 2023 (UTC) - Delete per the above. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 20:42, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Tagged it with G6. Shouldn't need the discussion. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 21:32, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
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Youtube Vocal covers
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 17:59, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Youtube Vocal covers → Cover version (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
YouTube is not mentioned at the target article and I can't find a better place to retarget to. Would be open to retargetting if a suitable location is found; otherwise, deletion seems the preferred path. TartarTorte 17:29, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:12, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:04, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 00:21, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom Idiosincrático (talk) 05:58, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
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YouTube Top 100
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 17:58, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
This was decided at this AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/YouTube Top 100 to become a redirect to Billboard Social 50 which itself became a redirect when that page was moved to List of Billboard Social 50 number-one artists; however, this page was retargeted to YouTube 31 minutes after the close of the AfD back in 2013. It seems like there was not consensus for this to be an article as its own back in 2013, and seeing as there is no information on it and the unsuitability of Billboard Social 50, which includes data from far more platforms than just youtube, that it would be best deleted. TartarTorte 17:28, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete This topic isn't discussed in any of our articles, as far as I know. YouTube is not a helpful target. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:11, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and InfiniteNexus. Not a useful search and is not mentioned at the target. 〜 Askarion ✉ 17:12, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom Idiosincrático (talk) 05:56, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
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East Topoli, Kupiansk Raion, Kharkiv Oblast
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- The result of the discussion was Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 03:31, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- East Topoli, Kupiansk Raion, Kharkiv Oblast → Topoli, Kupiansk Raion (village) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This is not an actual name of the settlement, it is an user-generated name with the purpose of differentiating this settlement from Topoli (rural-type settlement), Dvorichna settlement hromada, Kupiansk Raion, Kharkiv Oblast (for which the already deleted West Topoli, Kupiansk Raion, Kharkiv Oblast was created as well). Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 16:40, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Jay 💬 06:39, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:US-business-bio
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 16:36, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Template:US-business-bio → Template:US-business-bio-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:Nordic-skiing-bio → Template:Nordic-skiing-bio-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unused; one of the roughly 20 quite unusual redirects/shortcuts to stub templates that do not reference stubs, and the only two "-bio" redirects to "-bio-stub"s. Note that the latter results from a naming error fixed by the template author shortly after its creation in 2007. 1234qwer1234qwer4 16:12, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per both nom. Not helpful to retain. Skynxnex (talk) 20:36, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete stubtypes without stub in the name -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 18:25, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: potentially confusing titles as they don’t contain the word stub, per 67.70. user:A smart kittenmeow 13:47, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Nigerian-short-film
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:48, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Template:Nigerian-short-film → Template:Nigerian-short-film-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:Nigerian short film → Template:Nigerian-short-film-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:Nigerian-television-series → Template:Nigeria-tv-prog-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:Nigerian television series → Template:Nigeria-tv-prog-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:Nigerian-screenwriters → Template:Nigeria-screenwriter-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:Nigerian-film-producer → Template:Nigeria-film-producer-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:Nigerian film producer → Template:Nigeria-film-producer-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:Nigerian-documentary-film → Template:Nigeria-documentary-film-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:Nigerian documentary film → Template:Nigeria-documentary-film-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:Nigerian-cinematographer → Template:Nigeria-cinematographer-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:Nigerian-animated-film → Template:Nigeria-animated-film-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:Nigerian animated film → Template:Nigeria-animated-film-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unused (created last year); part of the roughly 20 quite unusual redirects/shortcuts to stub templates that do not reference stubs. No such redirects exist for other countries. 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:53, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. These all exist only because they were originally created at these illogical and improper titles in the first place, and were then moved (by me) to the correct naming format after I found them. It's just an oversight of forgetting to unclick the "retain redirect" checkbox (which is checked by default and has to be actively unchecked if the redirect is not desired, but is very frequently overlooked by many editors who perform page moves), and isn't really necessary to retain any of them permanently. Bearcat (talk) 15:57, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Merge completed. Since this was partly explained in the vote left while I was still nominating the templates, I will add the following part, which I was going to add to the nomination, as a separate comment: All result from page moves, some immediately after the template creation, the others some time later, but none are currently being transcluded. 1234qwer1234qwer4 16:07, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. I created at least one of these for the same reason as Bearcat. They are not useful. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:25, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete stubtypes without stub in the name -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 18:26, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - potentially confusing as they don’t contain the word stub, per 67.70. user:A smart kittenmeow 13:46, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Grallariidae
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:48, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Template:Grallariidae → Template:Grallariidae-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unused; one of the roughly 20 quite unusual redirects/shortcuts to stub templates that do not reference stubs. Potentially misleading as the title reads more akin to a navigation template. 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:52, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Skynxnex (talk) 20:34, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete stubtype without stub in the name -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 18:26, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Butterfly
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:48, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Template:Butterfly → Template:Butterfly-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unused; one of the roughly 20 quite unusual redirects/shortcuts to stub templates that do not reference stubs. Potentially misleading as the title reads more akin to an infobox template. 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:51, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 20:20, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and Edward-Woodrow. Skynxnex (talk) 20:34, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete stubtype without stub in the name -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 18:26, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and prev comments - a confusing and potentially misleading title. user:A smart kittenmeow — Preceding undated comment added 13:44, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Cities, towns & Villages in Agra District
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:48, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Template:Cities, towns & Villages in Agra District → Template:Agra-geo-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unused; one of the roughly 20 quite unusual redirects/shortcuts to stub templates that do not reference stubs. Potentially misleading as the title reads more akin to a navigation template. 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:49, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete agree it sounds like a navigation template. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:31, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 20:43, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete stubtype without stub in the name -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 18:27, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per previous comments. user:A smart kittenmeow 13:43, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Multiracial
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:48, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Template:Multiracial → Template:Ethno-stub (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unused, confusing redirect. Should probably have been deleted instead of being redirected. 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:40, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete misleading. Skynxnex (talk) 17:32, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 20:43, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete stubtype without stub in the name -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 18:27, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per prev comments: potentially misleading, confusing, and doesn’t contain the word ‘stub’. user:A smart kittenmeow 13:42, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete confusing. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:18, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:R from yo mama
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- The result of the discussion was speedy delete per author request. ✗plicit 12:53, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Template:R from yo mama → Template:R from relative (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Nonsense. 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:32, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep (note: I am redirect creator). {{R from mother}} redirects to {{R from relative}}, and yo mama is just a (usually casual) way of saying mother. Not nonsense, and redirects are cheap. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:54, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- What makes you think anybody would attempt to replace "mother" (not even "your mother") in a template name with this
(usually casual) way of saying
it? 1234qwer1234qwer4 16:09, 7 September 2023 (UTC)- They're functionally equivalent, so can see some people finding it useful. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:54, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- What makes you think anybody would attempt to replace "mother" (not even "your mother") in a template name with this
- Speedy delete criterion WP:G3 (blatant vandalism). The meme this is based on is intended to insult the receiver, and so the redirect is WP:RFD#D3 offensive, and likely cannot be used without violating WP:BLP. Why on earth would you think it was a good idea to create this? Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:03, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete fine with speedy. Not helpful for categorizing redirects and arguably offensive. Skynxnex (talk) 17:30, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, not sure it quite falls under G3 but I wouldn't be opposed to a speedy. No use case, could be offensive to some, generally a net negative for the encyclopedia. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 17:37, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, rarely used template (apart from the fact that it is linked to 10 pages, 8 of which are pages edited today to include this template). Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:20, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Speedly delete. Vandalism, unamusing, unencyclopedic, and not useful. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:27, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete with prejudice: seriously? Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 20:21, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Comment this is not intended as vandalism, but there does seem to be consensus to delete. Could someone just delete it? Joseph2302 (talk) 09:54, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
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Acanthurus bahainus
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:47, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Acanthurus bahainus → Acanthurus bahianus (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This is a leftover from a request that was made at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests. Someone had previously misspelled the scientific name of the fish in the article's title. That has been fixed and now this redirect remains. It's not likely to be a common misspelling among people who search for the fish's article, and can be deleted as housekeeping. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:23, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 02:59, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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Drug seeking
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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 14#Drug seeking
Sparks Fly Out(True Blood)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:47, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Sparks Fly Out(True Blood) → True Blood (season 1)#ep5 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect title without a space between the title and disambiguation. Delete per WP:RDAB. Valid redirect at Sparks Fly Out (True Blood) so nothing is lost. Gonnym (talk) 14:32, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete this and the five True Blood redirects listed below it. Why should we have those when we have the correctly spaced variants? Regards, SONIC678 15:11, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete as WP:UNNATURAL, but create the redlink in the nomination I suppose? 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:45, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- I fixed the link. I somehow missed the first part of it. Gonnym (talk) 11:11, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete it was at this title for less than 2 hours in 2009. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:33, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
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Plaisir d'Amour(True Blood)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:47, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Plaisir d'Amour(True Blood) → List of True Blood episodes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect title without a space between the title and disambiguation. Delete per WP:RDAB. Valid redirect at Plaisir d'Amour (True Blood) so nothing is lost. Gonnym (talk) 14:31, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete the redirect was created after being deleted as a copyvio but there is no useful history here. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:35, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom rationale. Utopes (talk / cont) 00:35, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete -- an incorrectly formatted redirect created in 2009 during copyvio clean-up. History is not needed. — CactusWriter (talk) 15:32, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
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Mine(True Blood)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:47, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Mine(True Blood) → List of True Blood episodes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect title without a space between the title and disambiguation. Delete per WP:RDAB. Valid redirect at Mine (True Blood) so nothing is lost. Gonnym (talk) 14:31, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- I would normally have !voted delete but not that this title has more content in the history than the correct title. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:37, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom rationale. Utopes (talk / cont) 00:36, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete due to malformed modifier --Lenticel (talk) 03:01, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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Escape from Dragon House(True Blood)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:47, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Escape from Dragon House(True Blood) → List of True Blood episodes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect title without a space between the title and disambiguation. Delete per WP:RDAB. Valid redirect at Escape from Dragon House (True Blood) so nothing is lost. Gonnym (talk) 14:31, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete it was at this title for a few hours in 2009. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:38, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom rationale. Utopes (talk / cont) 00:37, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete due to malformed modifier --Lenticel (talk) 03:01, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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Cold Ground(True Blood)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:47, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Cold Ground(True Blood) → List of True Blood episodes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect title without a space between the title and disambiguation. Delete per WP:RDAB. Valid redirect at Cold Ground (True Blood) so nothing is lost. Gonnym (talk) 14:31, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete it was at this title for a few hours in 2009. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:41, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom rationale. Utopes (talk / cont) 00:37, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete due to malformed modifier --Lenticel (talk) 03:01, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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Burning House of Love(True Blood)
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:45, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Burning House of Love(True Blood) → List of True Blood episodes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect title without a space between the title and disambiguation. Delete per WP:RDAB. Valid redirect at Burning House of Love (True Blood) so nothing is lost. Gonnym (talk) 14:31, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Like #Mine(True Blood) above there is more content in this title's history than the correct title. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:40, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom rationale. Utopes (talk / cont) 00:37, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete due to malformed modifier --Lenticel (talk) 03:01, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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Criticisms of Mozilla Firefox
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 15#Criticisms of Mozilla Firefox
Google Tone
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 15#Google Tone
GBrowser
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:45, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
I can't really find much calling chrome "GBrowser". It mostly seems to refer to a file browser/terminal emulator written using GTK. TartarTorte 14:14, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete as unlikely search term. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:15, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete as D10. There's a link to it at Beebase which doesn't appear to be intended as a link to Google Chrome. Searching online, most results are for unrelated software, including the file browser. The closest relevant result I could find was a mention at History of Google: "
There were also rumors of a Google web browser, fueled much by the fact that Google was the owner of the domain name "gbrowser.com".[citation needed] These were later proven when Google released Google Chrome.
" If this is true maybe "GBrowser" was an internal name used during initial development, but that's just a guess and it's obvious that Chrome has never publically gone by that name. It's equally obvious that Chrome isn't the primary topic for the term "GBrowser". The title should be vacated for more appropriate use and allow redlinking at pages like Beebase (WP:REDYES). – Scyrme (talk) 18:54, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
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Predacons
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- The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (Using Paul 012's draft) (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 16:23, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
- Predacons → List of Beast Wars characters#Predacons (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Predacon → List of Beast Wars characters (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The article Predacons was redirected to List of Beast Wars characters#Predacons because of lack of notability to merit a separate article. The problem is, not all Predacons are Beast Wars characters. Indeed, the term "Predacons" was coined and first marketed about a decade before "Beast Wars" was even a glimpse in Hasbro's imagination. For the entirety of the six years that this page used to be a separate article, it covered the original Generation 1 Predacons in equal detail. There seems to also be incoming link referring to the original Generation 1 Predacons. This redirect should probably be retargeted (although I don't know where to) or converted into a disambiguation page. JIP | Talk 08:37, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
- Is it better to target the Transformers media franchise article as {{R from subtopic}} and {{R unprintworthy}} since the character faction spans several series? ― Synpath 18:28, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
- It's technically two separate character factions within the same franchise, each in its own series. I imagine Hasbro has to reuse names periodically to avoid losing the trademarks. But I guess a retarget to Transformers would be a good idea anyway, unless a better target comes along or someone decides to actually add content about the factions. JIP | Talk 23:16, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
- I think both Maximal and Predacon should be separate articles. Although they are multiple different factions across multiple different continuities they are all connected. Nosecone33 (talk) 22:19, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- It's technically two separate character factions within the same franchise, each in its own series. I imagine Hasbro has to reuse names periodically to avoid losing the trademarks. But I guess a retarget to Transformers would be a good idea anyway, unless a better target comes along or someone decides to actually add content about the factions. JIP | Talk 23:16, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
- Disambiguate There are two different groups of characters called "Predcaons" in Transformers, a Decepticon combiner team and the Beasties faction. So just create a 3DAB for the Beasties, the G1 Transformers and the movie "Rise of the Beasts" -- 67.70.25.80 (talk) 05:07, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
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- Disambiguate per 67.70.25.80. --Paul_012 (talk) 00:24, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
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- Disambiguate per above and WP:NOPRIMARY. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:16, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Paul 012 and InfiniteNexus: (I cannot ping the IP) I tried to close this as a dab, but was lost. Can you list the articles that should be part of the dab? If "the G1 Transformers" is Transformers: Generation 1, then that article has no mention of Predacons. The movie Transformers: Rise of the Beasts says
Despite the announcement of the Predacons, no such member appeared in the finished film.
Does "the Beasties" refer to Beast Wars: Transformers? Also pinging the nom JIP and participants Synpath, Nosecone33 for help, regardless of whether they support a dab Jay 💬 12:20, 15 September 2023 (UTC)- For one thing, that the article Transformers: Generation 1 does not mention the original G1 Predacons does not mean it should not. The previous revisions of the article Predacons are still there, a mention of the original G1 Predacons could be added there, but heavily trimmed from the original article, only concentrating on the Generation 1 part and only including sourced material about the actual toys. For another thing, yes, "the Beasties" is the same thing as Beast Wars: Transformers. It was just renamed "the Beasties" on some markets for some weird reason. I don't know if the Predacons on Transformers: Rise of the Beasts were supposed to be the same Predacons as in Beast Wars as I haven't seen the film, but based on the article content, particularly the character names, it looks like they were. JIP | Talk 12:42, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- I've taken a stab at the disambig page at Predacon. List of The Transformers (TV series) characters is probably the target 67.70.25.80 was referring to, and indeed, the AfD's closure was to redirect to the TV series, though this was later changed when the mention was trimmed from the main TV series article. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:26, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- Should the dab be at Predacons as the term is referred to in the plural always? Jay 💬 13:50, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- I initially thought so, but then Autobot and Decepticon, which have articles, are both at the singular form. So I guessed the dab should follow their example. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:16, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- Should the dab be at Predacons as the term is referred to in the plural always? Jay 💬 13:50, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
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Abdullah bin Hussein
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- The result of the discussion was disambiguate. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:08, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Abdullah bin Hussein → Abdullah II of Jordan (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Dabify -The father of Abdullah I of Jordan was also called Hussein, so "Abdullah bin Hussein" could refer to either. estar8806 (talk) ★ 16:06, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per nom. Would Abdullah ibn Husayn al-Ahmar be a PTM? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:25, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- This is messier than I first thought. Note that Abdullah bin al-Hussein and a handful of others also target Abdullah II of Jordan. Working on the basis that Abdullah II is the primary topic:
- Disambiguate by using a hatnote
{{hatnote|"Abdullah bin Hussein" redirects here. Abdullah I of Jordan was also Abdullah bin Hussein}}
. - Retarget all of the following to Abdullah II: Abdullah Ibn Hussein, Abdullah Ibn Husayn, Abdullah ibn Husein, Abdullah ibn Hussein. (Boldly) delete Abdullah Bin AL-Husain for being malformed. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:57, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
- Disambiguate by using a hatnote
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- Comment I intended to close this as nothing has been mentioned since August, and everyone has suggested some means of disambiguation. Abdullah II is, at least in the present, the WP:PTOPIC of this article, as he is the incumbent king. I don't think it was yet addressed, but currently Abdullah of Jordan exists in the same manner of a disambiguation page, between Abdullah I and II. Whether the disambiguation is done via its own page, or by a hatnote, it does seem as if there is precedent when clarifying which of the two kings is being referred. Utopes (talk / cont) 00:12, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
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Bird app
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Bird (transportation company) and add a hatnote to Twitter. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 05:55, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
Was created with a reference to wikt:bird app, but search results also refer to Bird (transportation company) - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 12:02, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Bird (transportation company) and add a hatnote. The top google results for the term seem to be mostly about the scooter company. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 12:11, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- support as original creator, the transport app clearly dominates search results. --jonas (talk) 12:54, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: if the consensus is to retarget, is it worth adding a hatnote at Bird (transportation company)? I’d suggest it would be, considering the potentially ambiguous meaning (evidenced by the Wiktionary entry). A smart kitten (talk) 13:52, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- Definitely – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 15:35, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep "Bird app" is the common nickname for Twitter. However, I agree that a hatnote should be added to either page (depending on the discussion's outcome). InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:36, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- I think it needs to go to either Twitter or Bird (transportation company), with a hatnote to the other article. An advantage of retargeting to Bird (transportation company) would be avoidance of hatnote clutter at Twitter. — Bilorv (talk) 00:52, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Bird (transportation company) with hatnote per filelakeshoe and Bilorv. I have heard "Bird app" refer to Twitter more than the transportation app, but that can be fixed with a hatnote. 〜 Askarion ✉ 11:25, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Bird (transportation company). A somewhat unusual case where I think it's more likely the average usage of the phrase "Bird app" more likely refers to Twitter, but the average person looking for "Bird app" on Wikipedia is probably looking for the app named Bird. Support a hatnote at whatever the eventual target is. Dylnuge (Talk • Edits) 19:31, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- Comment (again): Not to intentionally make things more complicated or anything,[Humor] but after googling bird app, it appears that the term can also refer to actual 'bird apps' - e.g. bird identification apps. (A very brief search doesn’t reveal any articles on bird-ID apps, though, so maybe this won’t actually complicate things any more?) A smart kitten (talk) 00:10, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Disambiguate. Twitter as an article already has too many hatnotes, and while combinable, Bird Scooters I also find reasonable. Consider saying something along the lines of "Bird App is most commonly used as a nickname for Twitter, especially prior to its rebranding to X; Bird app may also refer to..." InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 15:56, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
- Probably just delete. Dab page would fall afoul of dem rulz, either other target would be unideal, as would hatnote clutter. Not massively opposed to targeting either company though. J947 † edits 22:59, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Retarget, keep, dabify, or delete?
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- Retarget to Bird (transportation company) with hatnote, per many above. Redirects should target actual names of things rather than nicknames referring to former names of things, unless the nickname is much more prominent in common use; this one is not. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:54, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Bird (transportation company) with hatnote. Dylnuge's reasoning resonates with me. Would be willing to revisit this if something changes with the scooter company. StonyBrook babble 08:31, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
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- Retarget to Bird (transportation company) and add hatnote per above. The app is called Bird — Ride Electric, and it appears at the top of a search on the Google Play Store for "bird", so it definitely matches the term better than a colloquial name for Twitter. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk | edits) Feel free to ping me! 14:11, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
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English bias
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 06:44, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- English bias → Ethnocentrism (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Seems vague and ambiguous. Could this refer to Ethnocentrism per the redirect’s creator, or something else like an English language bias of sorts? Google doesn’t really help either with defining this. No incoming links, and I propose deletion unless a better target can be found. Fork99 (talk) 17:20, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think we have a better article than this target. Anglocentrism and Anglocentric are both soft redirects to Wiktionary. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:17, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:R#D10. The current target has one sentence which might be about this topic:
A Canadian study established the differences among French Canadian and English Canadian respondents based on products that would be purchased due to ethnocentrism and racism.
. Meanwhile in Google Books & Scholar there appears to be a large amount of literature on topics called English bias. e.g. university admissions committees in decolonised countries preferring graduates of English-medium schools over native-medium schools (which isn't ethnocentrism, either). 59.149.117.119 (talk) 04:11, 1 September 2023 (UTC) - Delete as ambiguous and likely to cause confusion (In favour English people? In favour of English language? The bias of English people? ...). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:25, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Cultural bias. Rreagan007 (talk) 15:53, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
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- Delete as a vague and ambiguous search term per nom and Shhhnotsoloud. Both the current target and Cultural bias suggested above do not mention it. Anglocentrism would have been a good target, except that the original stub article was merged into Ethnocentrism and the content subsequently removed never to return, probably due to COATRACK/NPOV concerns. The utility of the Anglocentrism redirect was then questioned, leading to the soft redirect (maybe it should be rewritten as an article?). American exceptionalism excludes England bias and Anglo-Saxonism possibly excludes modern English bias. International English#Opposition and Cultural imperialism#British Empire also seem to be misdirections. I suspect that the creator really had Wikipedia:Systemic bias on their mind when they created this, which would have been a good target except that we don't have mainspace redirects to WP project pages. The day before, they were engaged in boldly rewriting the Wikipedia lede, and on the next day the New York City lede as a professed 'non-American'. I might have considered another soft redirect as above, but overall I think it is just not worth the trouble. StonyBrook babble 08:08, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:R from deadname
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Country metal
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Electric grid security
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Power system reliability#Security. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 05:53, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- Electric grid security → Electric grid security in the United States (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
R#D10 situation, probably? I don't think this is a good {{R to subtopic}} (readers probably want info on electric grid security in general, not US electric grid security), and Electrical grid doesn't have much about security in it. An article was previously at this title, but it was entirely about the US and was moved to where this currently targets. (There's also Electrical grid security in the United States, which is a separate article, though I just started a merge discussion.) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 04:23, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
- The merge discussion ended up linking Security (electrical grid), which points to Power system reliability#Security. That's probably the best target for now; I think I'd retarget there over deletion, since there is a bit of information about electric grid security there. Still, it's narrow, but that's probably more because it's three sentences and can still be expanded. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 21:07, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- I’m not familiar with the subject matter, but on the face of it I’d say either dab-ify or retarget to Power system reliability#Security per Skarmory (with either Electric grid security or Security (electrical grid) being tagged with {{R avoided double redirect}}). A smart kitten (talk) 23:30, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
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- Retarget to Power_system_reliability#Security per A smart kitten. Unhelpfuly US-centric redirect. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 20:34, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
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England's Rose
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- The result of the discussion was keep with a hatnote to English rose. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 06:00, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- England's Rose → Candle in the Wind 1997 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Retarget to English rose (epithet). People using this search term may be coming from the song (though a redirect from the full lyric "Goodbye England's Rose" already exists), but may also be looking for the woman that lyric referred to (Diana, Princess of Wales) or other women referred to by the epithet. estar8806 (talk) ★ 23:51, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
- Out of curiosity I looked up pageview stats (90 days prior to today) for the articles linked from the proposed target. The top entries are:
- Kate Winslet: 1,388,904
- Kate Beckinsale: 1,229,169
- Emma Watson: 1,104,968
- Diana, Princess of Wales: 882,579
- The current target has less than 40k. Pageviews are an unreliable metric but this does seem to indicate that there is no individual who is the primary target, and so the phrase should target the epithet page. Also just noting that Goodbye England's rose does not exist, but Goodbye England's Rose does. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:45, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget per nom --Lenticel (talk) 06:28, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep; "English rose" is enough of a set phrase that anyone searching for "England's rose" is probably expecting the song. Bernanke's Crossbow (talk) 07:04, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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Retarget per nom; I realize I didn't actually write a bolded !vote into my previous comment.Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:41, 30 August 2023 (UTC)- Keep per Bernanke's Crossbow. Are any of the women at English rose (epithet) ever referred to as "England's Rose"? Maybe Diana, and only then in the context of Candle in the Wind. Googling for "England's Rose" "Kate Winslet" (as the most viewed article on an English rose per Ivanvector above) just gets me a bunch of articles which mention both Kate Winslet and Candle in the Wind 1997. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 09:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Diana, Princess of Wales, with a hatnote to the song, and to either the epithet page or English rose (a dab page where "England's Rose" entries would be appropriate). The comment above made me rethink this: pageviews don't give any indication of usage of this term to refer to those individuals, only a vague sense of how well-known they are in general. When I enter "england's rose" in Google I get about 900M results, almost all about Diana, the Elton John song, or horticultural websites. Google does continuous scroll now so I can't tell which page I'm on when I find results for anything else, but I scrolled an awful lot before I gave up without seeing any other usage. Then I searched terms like "england's rose diana", "england's rose kate beckinsale", and so on, and Diana was the most prominent by roughly a factor of 10; about 25M to 5M for the song; "goodbye england's rose" hit 14M for comparison. The redirect should target what readers are most likely looking for when they enter the term, and a hatnote can direct the minority of readers looking for the song or some other target. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:36, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. I don't recall Diana being known as "England's Rose" before the tribute song. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:56, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
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- Keep with hatnote to English rose. External search results are dominated by 3 topics: the song, Diana, and the cultivar of roses named "England's Rose" listed at David C. H. Austin. Results for Diana were not independent of the song, with most of them including some reference to the full title of the song "Goodbye England's Rose", so I would say that the song is the primary topic. Diana is already prominently linked at the current target. My first thought seeing the title was actually Tudor rose, the heraldic emblem of England, but external search results suggest it's a distant fourth. Searching alongside other keywords does bring up references to Tudor rose, so it shouldn't be ruled out that readers may be looking for it. Both the cultivar and heraldic emblem are covered at English rose, as is the epithet, so a separate disambiguation page would be entirely redundant. – Scyrme (talk) 19:27, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per discussion and common name. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:12, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
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Female priest
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Trigylcerides
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- The result of the discussion was keep. Complex/Rational 16:38, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Trigylcerides → Triglyceride (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not a plausible misspelling, delete. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:07, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- I'm looking really closely to see the difference, I think this is just swapping the "y" and the "l"? "Triglycerides" is quite a tough word to spell in general, and if it's just this one letter swap I'd consider this to be a very plausible/totally harmless redirect. Naturally we don't want to make a redirect for every single letter swappage in every word ever, but this has existed for 7 or so years and seems fair to include in an admittedly tricky word. Keep. Utopes (talk / cont) 02:09, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- Comment single character transpositions are a very easy and commonly found form of typo. Any two adjacent letter swap would therefore be very plausible. -- 65.92.244.99 (talk) 20:55, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- Common typing mistakes indeed, but not plausible misspellings, i.e., a misspelling that would intentionally be typed, which are the sort of misspellings that make good redirects. This is harmless, probably, but also WP:COSTLY and WP:PANDORA to support the notion that when an editor inverts two letters and reaches search results rather than the intended page, they should create a redirect. IMHO, we should not be encouraging that, and there is no problem with cleaning up such redirects. Mdewman6 (talk) 22:46, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- We have {{R from typo}} and leaving it be is not encouraging the creation of more. This was created in 2016, not this year, so isn't a newly created typo redirect. If it were a newly created one, IIRC, there's a speedy delete for it. Thus it would seem to be WP:CHEAP and not costly, as it's been there for several years unnoticed, not really breaking anything. -- 65.92.244.99 (talk) 03:36, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep as a typo of triglycerides per Utopes -- 65.92.244.99 (talk) 20:55, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- Common typing mistakes indeed, but not plausible misspellings, i.e., a misspelling that would intentionally be typed, which are the sort of misspellings that make good redirects. This is harmless, probably, but also WP:COSTLY and WP:PANDORA to support the notion that when an editor inverts two letters and reaches search results rather than the intended page, they should create a redirect. IMHO, we should not be encouraging that, and there is no problem with cleaning up such redirects. Mdewman6 (talk) 22:46, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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- Keep and categorise as {{r from typo}}. It's an easy typo to make. Searching
"Trigylcerides"
externally provides plenty of examples of people making that exact mistake. It's even made it into publications at PubMed. I don't think this is necessarily a case of WP:PANDORA; other 2-letter transpositions are demonstrably not nearly as common, so they don't have the same degree of evidence for plausibility. – Scyrme (talk) 15:26, 7 September 2023 (UTC) - Keep as a {{r from typo}}. Look at this google scholar search. I think that says all that needs to be about this particular typo. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 17:19, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
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PCSO-524
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- The result of the discussion was Delete. Thryduulf (talk) 17:31, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- PCSO-524 → Polyunsaturated fatty acid (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Term not mentioned at target or anywhere else on enwiki; there previously was an article at this title that was deleted per Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/PCSO-524_(2nd_nomination) where consensus was to delete, not redirect (though WP:G4 doesn't seem to apply). Mdewman6 (talk) 23:27, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. This is a trademark name for
the compounda mussel extract. The deleted version of the article contained seven scholarly sources that mentioned it by this trademark name in the title of the paper. It is not unusual for trade names to redirect to the generic name, it aids searching, and there is no requirement for the article to mention any trade names at all. The redirect was created from the suggestion of Doc James in the AFD, and concurred by Sbalfour. I concurred also, so I created it. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:45, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- But "polyunsaturated fatty acid" is not a specific compound, but a class of compounds, so this is not a tradename for a specific compound. I can't see the previous article obviously, but it appears to simply be a non-notable product that contained polyunsaturated fatty acids. Without a mention, this redirect is more likely to confuse than to aid users. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:03, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- I disagree it would be confusing at all. We don't have an article on the specific product extracted from the New Zealand green-lipped mussel, but we have an article on the class of substances to which it belongs. Therefore a redirect is appropriate. In a nutshell (from the deleted article): "PCSO-524 is a patented marine lipid extract containing 30 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) including the essential omega-3 fatty acids DHA and EPA. It is extracted from the New Zealand green-lipped mussel (Perna canaliculus). PCSO-524 is the ingredient in several preparations including Lyprinol marketed outside the United States and Omega XL marketed in the United States." Here's one source explaining the relation betwee PCSO-524 and Lyprinol (both are brand names). Just do a search for PCSO-524 and you get all sorts of academic papers about it, including several on PubMed. Again, there is zero requirement for a general article to mention specific brand names. Anyone who knows enough to search for PCSO-524 would get relevant information. ~Anachronist (talk) 06:13, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- Then how about a sourced mention added to New Zealand green-lipped mussel, and retarget there? Without a mention, this redirect is just astonishing and therefore a bad redirect. See also Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lyprinol. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:13, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Mdewman6: That's fine. It could even redirect to the section New Zealand green-lipped mussel#Anti-inflammatory effects. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:49, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
- Then how about a sourced mention added to New Zealand green-lipped mussel, and retarget there? Without a mention, this redirect is just astonishing and therefore a bad redirect. See also Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lyprinol. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:13, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- I disagree it would be confusing at all. We don't have an article on the specific product extracted from the New Zealand green-lipped mussel, but we have an article on the class of substances to which it belongs. Therefore a redirect is appropriate. In a nutshell (from the deleted article): "PCSO-524 is a patented marine lipid extract containing 30 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) including the essential omega-3 fatty acids DHA and EPA. It is extracted from the New Zealand green-lipped mussel (Perna canaliculus). PCSO-524 is the ingredient in several preparations including Lyprinol marketed outside the United States and Omega XL marketed in the United States." Here's one source explaining the relation betwee PCSO-524 and Lyprinol (both are brand names). Just do a search for PCSO-524 and you get all sorts of academic papers about it, including several on PubMed. Again, there is zero requirement for a general article to mention specific brand names. Anyone who knows enough to search for PCSO-524 would get relevant information. ~Anachronist (talk) 06:13, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- But "polyunsaturated fatty acid" is not a specific compound, but a class of compounds, so this is not a tradename for a specific compound. I can't see the previous article obviously, but it appears to simply be a non-notable product that contained polyunsaturated fatty acids. Without a mention, this redirect is more likely to confuse than to aid users. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:03, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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- Note that Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lyprinol was closed as delete. Mdewman6 (talk) 18:35, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete without prejudice to restoration if the mention elsewhere discussed above is added. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:30, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per Pppery. And I could not find an article at New Zealand green-lipped mussel. It is a redirect to Perna canaliculus and I could not find a section "Anti-inflammatory effects" there. Jay 💬 15:25, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
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🤪
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Supplemental Symbols and Pictographs. 17:52, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Too vague to identify the meaning. The rcat notes the emoji is called "Grinning Face with One Large and One Small Eye" which doesn't translate to "insanity" in my book. Delete Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 12:08, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep or redirect. Good thing your book isn't a community guideline or policy. Gonnym (talk) 12:38, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- But it's so vague that any target could be unhelpful. It could equally refer to, say, someone having a lot of fun at a party. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 13:01, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Vague to you does not mean it is
so vague
. Support your arguments with actual evidence. Finally as I said in other places, you can always redirect to the emoji table. Not everything needs to go to RfC just because you don't understand or like the current target. Gonnym (talk) 13:19, 27 August 2023 (UTC)- @Gonnym: WP:REMOJI (the existing precedent on the matter):
The outcome is usually deletion if the glyph is unclear, its meaning is difficult to determine, or there is no consensus on a target
. What evidence is there that this emoji unambiguously means "insanity"? This is the core problem here. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 15:37, 27 August 2023 (UTC)- That is an essay. Essay don't mean anything. Gonnym (talk) 16:04, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- It represents the existing precedent. Regardless, it is vague and should be deleted, a rule that applies to all redirects. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 16:27, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- No, it is just an essay that doesn't represent any precedent in reality. Every base emoji has a Wikipedia redirect, and there are currently no exceptions. Enix150 (talk) 20:08, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
- It represents the existing precedent. Regardless, it is vague and should be deleted, a rule that applies to all redirects. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 16:27, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- That is an essay. Essay don't mean anything. Gonnym (talk) 16:04, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Gonnym: WP:REMOJI (the existing precedent on the matter):
- Vague to you does not mean it is
- But it's so vague that any target could be unhelpful. It could equally refer to, say, someone having a lot of fun at a party. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 13:01, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Silliness. Per Emojipedia, it is
generally used to express silliness.
-- Tavix (talk) 17:48, 27 August 2023 (UTC) - Delete. As much as I like to make up sentences with emojis (and I DO like it!) it is highly subjective across cultures and even individuals, plus "emoji" would be a hieroglyph-like language and this is not emoji.wikipedia.org but en.wikipedia.org - Nabla (talk) 22:02, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Exactly. Because they're just pictures, meaning is usually hard to determine. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 14:49, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete as too vague. It's just a 鬼脸 which could have a ton of different meanings, even include grimace and menace. Aaron Liu (talk) 18:08, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Supplemental Symbols and Pictographs, the unicode block of the emoji, which also has a history section which will have entries for significant changes to the unicode symbol. I do agree there's not another good single target (Silliness is a possibility, I could see the emoji being used to represent dizziness, etc.), so the unicode block is the way to go. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 21:31, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Silliness per Tavix, or to Supplemental Symbols and Pictographs per Skarmory. I honestly see no reason for deletion. CycloneYoris talk! 04:32, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
- Because it's vague and could refer to silliness, insanity, drunkenness, laughter, or any number of things. As Nabla noted, the meaning is
highly subjective across cultures and even individuals
. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 15:07, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
- Because it's vague and could refer to silliness, insanity, drunkenness, laughter, or any number of things. As Nabla noted, the meaning is
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Retarget to Supplemental Symbols and Pictographs per Skarmory and strong oppose keep per Edward-Woodrow. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk | edits) Feel free to ping me! 14:26, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to either Silliness or Zany, while preferring to keep before retargeting to a general list of symbols. This emoji is known as the "Zany" Face, which is an emoji that represents silliness. It does not refer to drunkenness (nothing about this emoji is drunk; see: 🥴, and searching "zany face definition" leads to no results for "drunk" or "drink"), and it does not refer to laughter (nothing about this emoji is laughing; see: the several other laughing emojis, and searching "zany face definition" leads to no results for laughing). Emojipedia, and all other emoji compendium websites, overwhelmingly refer to the definition of "silliness"; it is also called "goofy" and "crazy" as well as other synonyms, but silliness is still the primary definition that each source includes, which is where this redirect should point towards. Utopes (talk / cont) 18:18, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Supplemental Symbols and Pictographs per Skarmory. Too vague to refer to any particular topic. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:05, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Silliness or, barring that, to Supplemental Symbols and Pictographs, but there is no reason for deletion. Enix150 (talk) 19:13, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- I explained thee reason for deletion in my nomination. Is it unclear? Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 15:38, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- Not unclear, just not policy. As Tavix said: per Emojipedia, this emoji is
generally used to express silliness.
I don't see any vagueness here, just a need to retarget. Enix150 (talk) 19:45, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
- Not unclear, just not policy. As Tavix said: per Emojipedia, this emoji is
- I explained thee reason for deletion in my nomination. Is it unclear? Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 15:38, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- (Nominator comment) I'd like to point out that the appearance of this emoji varies across devices, and its interpretation across individuals, further reinforcing my central point in favour of deletion: it is so vague that it could refer to a multitude of targets. With this level of vagueness, as what is fundamentally an arrangement of pixels could be interpreted in a multitude of ways, I still strongly believe that it is best to delete this redirect. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 15:53, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Edward-Woodrow: The most common outcome in these types of discussions is to retarget to Supplemental Symbols and Pictographs (consistent with WP:REMOJI) which is the preferred target when an emoji is considered to be "vague", as other editors have already pointed out above. Deletion on the other hand would be pointless, since the emoji redirect will likely be re-created anyway. CycloneYoris talk! 23:30, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Supplemental Symbols and Pictographs to avoid possibly-wrong guesswork as to what is meant. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:32, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Cat. No consensus, but most people seem fine with that option. (non-admin closure) J947 † edits 07:15, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
It's a cat with light-up eyes holding their paws to their face. How exactly does this refer to fatigue? Unlikely search term, unclear connection with target. Delete (or maybe retarget to Cat). Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 12:03, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep or redirect. Likely search term. Gonnym (talk) 12:36, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- But with an unclear connection to the target. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 13:02, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- WP:THENFIXIT. Gonnym (talk) 13:17, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- I'm trying to. I nominated it for deletion. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 13:21, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Obvisouly you haven't read the linked page. Gonnym (talk) 16:06, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- What do you want me to do? Unilaterally delete it myself? 1) that would be wrong and 2) I'm not a sysop anyways. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 16:28, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- I believe by "then fix it" Gonnym meant to boldly make the connection to the target clear, not to unilaterally delete content against the will of the community. Enix150 (talk) 21:15, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- What do you want me to do? Unilaterally delete it myself? 1) that would be wrong and 2) I'm not a sysop anyways. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 16:28, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Obvisouly you haven't read the linked page. Gonnym (talk) 16:06, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- I'm trying to. I nominated it for deletion. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 13:21, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- WP:THENFIXIT. Gonnym (talk) 13:17, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- But with an unclear connection to the target. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 13:02, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Cat It's an emoji of a cat. No connection to fatigue. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:54, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. It's defined as "weary cat" and weariness is associated with fatigue. -- Tavix (talk) 17:59, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Fatigue to match 😩; in my experience the cat version of these emojis are used with similar meaning to the non-cat versions just with added humor. Skynxnex (talk) 18:44, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- It's supposed to be the variation of weary face but ended looking like the variation of 😱. Thanks, Apple. Delete so searchers use the words equivalent of what they want to search instead. Aaron Liu (talk) 18:12, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- If this was intended as a reply to me, I'm not sure what you mean. It doesn't matter too much what looks like in any one particular implementation, as far as I know, and we're trying to help searchers who don't know what the words equivalent is. I think retarget to Emoticons (Unicode block) where it exists with the official name would be fine too and better than deletion which doesn't really serve anyone. Skynxnex (talk) 19:41, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- It's supposed to be the variation of weary face but ended looking like the variation of 😱. Thanks, Apple. Delete so searchers use the words equivalent of what they want to search instead. Aaron Liu (talk) 18:12, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. As much as I like to make up sentences with emojis (and I DO like it!) it is highly subjective across cultures and even individuals, plus "emoji" would be a hieroglyph-like language and this is not emoji.wikipedia.org but en.wikipedia.org - Nabla (talk) 22:03, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Cat per Presidentman, or to Screaming where 😱 targets (since I've always found both quite similar). CycloneYoris talk! 04:29, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
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- Retarget to cat since that's what it's a picture of. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:06, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep or retarget. I believe that deleting this page would make it the only emoji without a redirect on Wikipedia. I see no reason for deletion. Enix150 (talk) 19:18, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Enix150: You keep making this argument, and, besides the fact that is isn't remotely based on policy, it isn't even true!. 🧙🏿 does not have a redirect, nor does 👯🏾. You say that
We should seek consistency in our coverage,
but that isn't an excuse for consistently bad coverage. As I said in a previous discussion, that's like saying "keep {unnotable article}, we need consistency in coverage of {topic}!" It's not remotely grounded in policy. You may see no reason for deletion, but this !vote is nothing more than WP:ILIKEIT. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 15:46, 9 September 2023 (UTC)- @Edward-Woodrow: the two examples that you posted are what are called "combined glyphs" that use multiple emojis combined. No one is arguing that every combination of glyphs should have a Wikipedia page, but all of the base emojis do. Again, deleting this one would make it the only base emoji without a Wikipedia article/redirect, and therefore inconsistent in coverage. Additionally, the votes have consistently been in favor of keeping/retargeting them rather than deletion. Enix150 (talk) 20:46, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- As I said in a previous discussion, that's like saying "keep {unnotable article}, we need consistency in coverage of {topic}!" Consistency in coverage isn't an excuse to keep vague emojis. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 21:08, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Enix150: My apologies. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 19:52, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Edward-Woodrow: the two examples that you posted are what are called "combined glyphs" that use multiple emojis combined. No one is arguing that every combination of glyphs should have a Wikipedia page, but all of the base emojis do. Again, deleting this one would make it the only base emoji without a Wikipedia article/redirect, and therefore inconsistent in coverage. Additionally, the votes have consistently been in favor of keeping/retargeting them rather than deletion. Enix150 (talk) 20:46, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Enix150: You keep making this argument, and, besides the fact that is isn't remotely based on policy, it isn't even true!. 🧙🏿 does not have a redirect, nor does 👯🏾. You say that
- (Nominator comment) I'd like to point out that the appearance of this emoji varies across devices, and its interpretation across individuals, further reinforcing my central point in favour of deletion: it is so vague that it could refer to a multitude of targets. With this level of vagueness, as what is fundamentally an arrangement of pixels could be interpreted in a multitude of ways, I still strongly believe that it is best to delete this redirect. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 15:53, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Edward-Woodrow: the Weary Cat Face emoji renders nearly identically across all devices and platforms. That argument may be valid elsewhere, but in this case there is very little difference between versions. Enix150 (talk) 20:55, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- Commenting on this; the appearance does not change as almost all emojis have been updated to have virtually the same appearance on all emoji platforms, and most of these emojis have clear definitions defined via Unicode or via all platforms giving the emoji a name. If you're on windows and hit the windows and period key at the same time, you get an emoji menu. The name of this emoji is called "Weary cat" by Windows, Apple, Emojipedia, and every other website that has emojis. So, to that effect, I feel this redirect should be treated as if "weary cat" is the title's input. I personally think it should target the same place that the 😩 emoji targets, which is defined as the "weary emoji" by all emoji vendors, as "weary" (😩) and "weary cat" (🙀) represent the same emotion.
- As a side note, I would recommend you (Edward-Woodrow) (and also Enix150 for that matter) be cautious of possibly bludgeoning every emoji discussion with the same discussion points. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:06, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Edward-Woodrow: the Weary Cat Face emoji renders nearly identically across all devices and platforms. That argument may be valid elsewhere, but in this case there is very little difference between versions. Enix150 (talk) 20:55, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to cat behavior#Sleeping patterns as the most direct meaning, or (since that surely won't get consensus this late in the discussion) to just cat as the one unambiguous fact being conveyed. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:34, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
- Finally, please don't relist this discussion to consider my late retarget. It's been open far longer than it should have been already. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:53, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
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Customs in redirects
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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 4#Customs in redirects
Various Comptes Rendus redirects
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- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was Delete COMPTES RENDUS HEBDOMADAIRES DES SEANCES DE L ACADEMIE DES SCIENCES SERIE A, Keep the rest. The consensus to keep is strong for Academie des Sciences Paris Comptes Rendus, the consensus to keep the others is weaker but does exist. Thryduulf (talk) 17:23, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Academie des Sciences Paris Comptes Rendus → Comptes rendus de l'Académie des Sciences (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Académie des Sciences, Comptes Rendus, ser. 2A → Comptes rendus de l'Académie des Sciences (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Acad. Sci. Paris, Comptes Rend. → Comptes rendus de l'Académie des Sciences (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Academie des Sciences. Comptes Rendus. Chimie → Comptes rendus de l'Académie des Sciences (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Academie des Sciences. Comptes Rendus. Geoscience → Comptes rendus de l'Académie des Sciences (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Academie des Sciences. Comptes Rendus. Palevol → Comptes rendus de l'Académie des Sciences (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- COMPTES RENDUS HEBDOMADAIRES DES SEANCES DE L ACADEMIE DES SCIENCES SERIE A → Comptes rendus de l'Académie des Sciences (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unlikely search terms/misspellings. Inverts the name of the journal for some weird reason (Comptes Rendus de l'Académie des Sciences), or preprends the publisher to it (Comptes Rendus. Palevol). Or LARGE CAPITALS WITH MISSING APOSTROPHES AND DIACRITICS. All garbage. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:45, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
- DELETE ALL: NONE PLAUSIBLE. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 06:57, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Academie des Sciences Paris Comptes Rendus Hundreds of Google Scholar results for this one. The others seem less likely, but they all (minus the all-caps version) bring up a few hits here and there. I'm neutral on those and in favor of deleting the all-caps version. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:54, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
- Google is order and punctuation agnostic (example Robert actor Jr Downey gets 46M hits). That is not a representative search. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:03, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- If you click the link, I used direct quotes for that specific phrase. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 01:14, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- Strange, when I clicked it the first time I swear it took me to regular google. Either way, if you follow those links, they all take you to the ADSABS database, which all lists "Comptes Rendus de l'Académie des Sciences, Paris", not "Academie des Sciences Paris Comptes Rendus". Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:33, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- If you click the link, I used direct quotes for that specific phrase. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 01:14, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- Google is order and punctuation agnostic (example Robert actor Jr Downey gets 46M hits). That is not a representative search. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:03, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 05:03, 5 August 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Nothing has changed since the previous relist
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 15:45, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Keep Academie des Sciences Paris Comptes Rendusper Presidentman, delete the others as unlikely search term.--Randykitty (talk) 18:28, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- Changing my !vote to Delete all, per Headbomb. --Randykitty (talk) 14:08, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Academie des Sciences Paris Comptes Rendus per Presidentman, delete the others as unlikely search term. (Shamelessly copying the !vote above.) Carcharoth (talk) 19:55, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep all but the last one. The past history of this journal is a confusing maze of variant titles, as I learned once when trying to track down a paper listed under one of them. Redirects are cheap and this can help people who might not already know that they are the same journal to find it. But the all-caps redirect is clearly unnecessary. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:49, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: These were probably created from lists populated from database entries by Wikipedia:WikiProject Academic Journals. Some, for example, are linked from Wikipedia:WikiProject Academic Journals/ERA pce journals. --Paul_012 (talk) 23:55, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep all but the last per David Eppstein; these all arise from the (IMHO crazy) chemistry convention to abbreviate any and all journal names. Bernanke's Crossbow (talk) 07:31, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 02:08, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep all but the last per David Eppstein. They're correctly tagged with "R from misspelling" so they shouldn't be "offered" as valid links and automated scripts can detect that when they're linked to, something is fishy, but it sounds like these forms can be used sometimes even if incorrect / dated. (For all that Headbomb's work in standarizing mentions of this journal are appreciated.) SnowFire (talk) 06:34, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete the all-caps one. The rest are harmless. GenQuest "scribble" 04:20, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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Good ol' boy
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 24#Good ol' boy
Injuries in netball
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 21#Injuries in netball