Hoi, I was so afraid when I read that Bassel has been sentenced to death. I read it on the website of Amnesty International [1]. I blogged about him in the past [2]. I am sad to say that it is him.
Bassel was active as a Wikimedian, he worked towards making information available about Palmyra.
If there is anything that we can do, please let us do this. Thanks, GerardM
[1] http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad... [2] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/10/freebassel-free-culture-advocate-...
Gerard, this is devastating news. Please send our love to Bassel's family. I still hope this is not true.
If there is anything we can do from here please let us know. Lila
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, I was so afraid when I read that Bassel has been sentenced to death. I read it on the website of Amnesty International [1]. I blogged about him in the past [2]. I am sad to say that it is him.
Bassel was active as a Wikimedian, he worked towards making information available about Palmyra.
If there is anything that we can do, please let us do this. Thanks, GerardM
[1]
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad... [2]
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/10/freebassel-free-culture-advocate-... _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe
Some suggestions of things we can do:
1. The list of signatories on the amnesty international website does not include the WMF, the Wikimedia community, any of our affiliations or any representation from the Wikimedia movement. I wonder if we can contact them and request adding any of the above mentioned?
2. Use our SM channels to retweet the WMF blog post [1] about him with the news that he is sentenced to death.
3. We all try to share supporting tweets on the #FreeBassel hashtag.
[1] http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/
Thanks,
Samir
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Lila Tretikov [email protected] wrote:
Gerard, this is devastating news. Please send our love to Bassel's family. I still hope this is not true.
If there is anything we can do from here please let us know. Lila
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen < [email protected]> wrote:
Hoi, I was so afraid when I read that Bassel has been sentenced to death. I
read
it on the website of Amnesty International [1]. I blogged about him in
the
past [2]. I am sad to say that it is him.
Bassel was active as a Wikimedian, he worked towards making information available about Palmyra.
If there is anything that we can do, please let us do this. Thanks, GerardM
[1]
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
[2]
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/10/freebassel-free-culture-advocate-...
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Lila, would you be able to somehow contact the Russian government? On Nov 23, 2015 18:25, "Samir Elsharbaty" [email protected] wrote:
Some suggestions of things we can do:
- The list of signatories on the amnesty international website does not
include the WMF, the Wikimedia community, any of our affiliations or any representation from the Wikimedia movement. I wonder if we can contact them and request adding any of the above mentioned?
- Use our SM channels to retweet the WMF blog post [1] about him with the
news that he is sentenced to death.
- We all try to share supporting tweets on the #FreeBassel hashtag.
[1] http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/
Thanks,
Samir
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Lila Tretikov [email protected] wrote:
Gerard, this is devastating news. Please send our love to Bassel's
family.
I still hope this is not true.
If there is anything we can do from here please let us know. Lila
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen < [email protected]> wrote:
Hoi, I was so afraid when I read that Bassel has been sentenced to death. I
read
it on the website of Amnesty International [1]. I blogged about him in
the
past [2]. I am sad to say that it is him.
Bassel was active as a Wikimedian, he worked towards making information available about Palmyra.
If there is anything that we can do, please let us do this. Thanks, GerardM
[1]
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
[2]
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/10/freebassel-free-culture-advocate-...
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We will check on both.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:17 AM, rupert THURNER [email protected] wrote:
Lila, would you be able to somehow contact the Russian government? On Nov 23, 2015 18:25, "Samir Elsharbaty" [email protected] wrote:
Some suggestions of things we can do:
- The list of signatories on the amnesty international website does not
include the WMF, the Wikimedia community, any of our affiliations or any representation from the Wikimedia movement. I wonder if we can contact
them
and request adding any of the above mentioned?
- Use our SM channels to retweet the WMF blog post [1] about him with
the
news that he is sentenced to death.
- We all try to share supporting tweets on the #FreeBassel hashtag.
[1] http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/
Thanks,
Samir
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Lila Tretikov [email protected]
wrote:
Gerard, this is devastating news. Please send our love to Bassel's
family.
I still hope this is not true.
If there is anything we can do from here please let us know. Lila
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen < [email protected]> wrote:
Hoi, I was so afraid when I read that Bassel has been sentenced to death.
I
read
it on the website of Amnesty International [1]. I blogged about him
in
the
past [2]. I am sad to say that it is him.
Bassel was active as a Wikimedian, he worked towards making
information
available about Palmyra.
If there is anything that we can do, please let us do this. Thanks, GerardM
[1]
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
[2]
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/10/freebassel-free-culture-advocate-...
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It one day that I have this reply in my Drafts...
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On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Samir Elsharbaty <[email protected]
wrote:
Some suggestions of things we can do:
Use the centralnotice.
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Gerard said it too. I understand that this is something unprecedented, as it was the Wikipedia "strike" for SOPA/PIPA. I don't know how diplomacy works: but I bet everyone in the world would be scared when Wikipedia puts something in the most visible place in the world. We could add a black ribbon to the logo, or use directly the CentralNotice.
I'd like to invite the Board and Lila and the whole Community to seriously think about it.
A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for believing in our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand the caution of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it.
Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to all the English-speaking countries. How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that was bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that is condemning Bassel to death?
Aubrey
2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni [email protected]:
Use the centralnotice.
[...]
A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for believing in our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand the caution of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it.
Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to all the English-speaking countries. How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that was bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that is condemning Bassel to death?
I strongly support this.
As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation supports the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
This is much more than a lawsuit.
A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force or the threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared away.
C
Hoi, Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony in Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the award.. Thanks, GerardM
On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni [email protected] wrote:
2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni [email protected]:
Use the centralnotice.
[...]
A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for believing
in
our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand the
caution
of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it.
Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to all the English-speaking countries. How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that was bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that is condemning Bassel to death?
I strongly support this.
As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation supports the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
This is much more than a lawsuit.
A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force or the threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared away.
C
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Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something.
On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony in Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the award.. Thanks, GerardM
On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni [email protected] wrote:
2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni [email protected]:
Use the centralnotice.
[...]
A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for
believing
in
our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand the
caution
of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it.
Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to all
the
English-speaking countries. How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that was bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that is condemning Bassel to death?
I strongly support this.
As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation supports the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
This is much more than a lawsuit.
A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force or the threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared away.
C
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+1 Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could you start a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where it should link/what it should advise readers to do? Pete On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected] wrote:
Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something.
On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony in Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the award.. Thanks, GerardM
On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni <[email protected]
wrote:
2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni [email protected]:
Use the centralnotice.
[...]
A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for
believing
in
our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand the
caution
of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it.
Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to all
the
English-speaking countries. How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that was bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that is condemning Bassel to death?
I strongly support this.
As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation supports the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
This is much more than a lawsuit.
A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force or the threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared away.
C
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Hoi, I have started a text.. Thanks, GerardM
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth [email protected] wrote:
+1 Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could you start a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where it should link/what it should advise readers to do? Pete On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected] wrote:
Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something.
On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]
wrote:
Hoi, Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony in Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the award.. Thanks, GerardM
On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni <
wrote:
2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni [email protected]:
Use the centralnotice.
[...]
A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for
believing
in
our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand the
caution
of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it.
Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to
all
the
English-speaking countries. How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that was bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that is condemning Bassel to death?
I strongly support this.
As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation supports the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
This is much more than a lawsuit.
A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force or the threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared away.
C
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Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here. Please help flesh it out at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, I have started a text.. Thanks, GerardM
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth [email protected] wrote:
+1 Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could you start a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where it should link/what it should advise readers to do? Pete On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected] wrote:
Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something.
On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]
wrote:
Hoi, Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony in Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the award.. Thanks, GerardM
On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni <
wrote:
2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni [email protected]:
Use the centralnotice.
[...]
A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for
believing
in
our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand the
caution
of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it.
Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to
all
the
English-speaking countries. How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that was bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that is condemning Bassel to death?
I strongly support this.
As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation supports the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
This is much more than a lawsuit.
A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force or the threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared away.
C
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We have put a message on the Wikimedia Nederland website. We hope to get a lot of visitors tomorrow because of the Erasmusprize-ceremony. Not a central notice, but it is a start.
Sandra Rientjes Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland
tel. (+31) (0)30 3200238 mob. (+31) (0)6 31786379
www.wikimedia.nl
*Postadres*: * Bezoekadres:* Postbus 167 Mariaplaats 3 3500 AD Utrecht Utrecht
2015-11-24 16:38 GMT+01:00 Daniel Mietchen [email protected]:
Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here. Please help flesh it out at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, I have started a text.. Thanks, GerardM
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth [email protected]
wrote:
+1 Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could you
start
a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where it
should
link/what it should advise readers to do? Pete On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected] wrote:
Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something.
On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen <
wrote:
Hoi, Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony in Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the
award..
Thanks, GerardM
On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni <
wrote:
2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni <[email protected]
:
> Use the centralnotice.
[...]
> A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for
believing
in > our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand
the
caution > of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it. > > Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to
all
the
> English-speaking countries. > How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that
was
> bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that
is
> condemning Bassel to death?
I strongly support this.
As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation
supports
the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
This is much more than a lawsuit.
A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force or
the
threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared away.
C
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Thank you, Sandra, for the prompt action. Sydney On Nov 24, 2015 11:28 AM, "Sandra Rientjes Wikimedia Nederland" < [email protected]> wrote:
We have put a message on the Wikimedia Nederland website. We hope to get a lot of visitors tomorrow because of the Erasmusprize-ceremony. Not a central notice, but it is a start.
Sandra Rientjes Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland
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2015-11-24 16:38 GMT+01:00 Daniel Mietchen <[email protected]
:
Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here. Please help flesh it out at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, I have started a text.. Thanks, GerardM
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth [email protected]
wrote:
+1 Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could you
start
a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where it
should
link/what it should advise readers to do? Pete On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected] wrote:
Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something.
On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen <
wrote:
Hoi, Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony
in
Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the
award..
Thanks, GerardM
On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni <
wrote:
> 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni <
:
> > Use the centralnotice. > > [...] > > > A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for believing > in > > our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I
understand
the
> caution > > of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it. > > > > Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again
to
all
the > > English-speaking countries. > > How could we ask for money when we are not using the power
that
was
> > bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage
that
is
> > condemning Bassel to death? > > I strongly support this. > > As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation
supports
> the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece: > >
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
> > This is much more than a lawsuit. > > A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force
or
the
> threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared
away.
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Hi everyone,
Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share some more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But we’re committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and keeping you updated going forward.
Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been tracking Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the organizers of the #FreeBassel campaign http://freebassel.org [1], and Bassel's family. The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and approval with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
- Coordination and communication with related organizations, such as the Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing) - Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at the U.S. State Department. (ongoing) - Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED story, “A Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History >From ISIS http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-could-save-syrian-history-from-isis/.” [2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain if that story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the #FreeBassel coordination community). (10/21) - Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15) - Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D renderings of Palmyra missing in Syria https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [3]. (10/08) - Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on Facebook and Twitter.
Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-speech-advocate-bassel-khartabil [4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know what’s happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of information. Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help him without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with experienced human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to understand the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.
We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support continued efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note on Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters (like this http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-advocate [5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community decides to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are monitoring the discussions and activity in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place where community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s anything else we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel.
Katherine
[1] http://freebassel.org/ [2] http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul... [3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [4] http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe... [5] http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Mietchen < [email protected]> wrote:
Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here. Please help flesh it out at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, I have started a text.. Thanks, GerardM
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth [email protected]
wrote:
+1 Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could you
start
a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where it
should
link/what it should advise readers to do? Pete On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected] wrote:
Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something.
On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen <
wrote:
Hoi, Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony in Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the
award..
Thanks, GerardM
On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni <
wrote:
2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni <[email protected]
:
> Use the centralnotice.
[...]
> A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for
believing
in > our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand
the
caution > of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it. > > Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to
all
the
> English-speaking countries. > How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that
was
> bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that
is
> condemning Bassel to death?
I strongly support this.
As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation
supports
the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
This is much more than a lawsuit.
A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force or
the
threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared away.
C
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FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel]], as a landing page to link from the banner.
If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede not everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be able to move ahead. There is, so far, nothing but support.
A.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher [email protected] wrote:
Hi everyone,
Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share some more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But we’re committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and keeping you updated going forward.
Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been tracking Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the organizers of the #FreeBassel campaign http://freebassel.org [1], and Bassel's family. The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and approval with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
- Coordination and communication with related organizations, such as the
Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
- Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at the
U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
- Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED story, “A Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS < http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
.”
[2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain if that story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the #FreeBassel coordination community). (10/21)
- Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including
Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
- Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D renderings
of Palmyra missing in Syria https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [3]. (10/08)
- Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
Facebook and Twitter.
Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention < http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
[4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know what’s happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of information. Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help him without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with experienced human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to understand the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.
We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support continued efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note on Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters (like this < http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
[5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community decides to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are monitoring the discussions and activity in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place where community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s anything else we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel.
Katherine
[1] http://freebassel.org/ [2]
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul... [3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [4]
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe... [5]
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Mietchen < [email protected]> wrote:
Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here. Please help flesh it out at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, I have started a text.. Thanks, GerardM
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth [email protected]
wrote:
+1 Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could you
start
a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where it
should
link/what it should advise readers to do? Pete On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected] wrote:
Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something.
On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen <
wrote:
Hoi, Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony
in
Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the
award..
Thanks, GerardM
On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni <
wrote:
> 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni <
:
> > Use the centralnotice. > > [...] > > > A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for believing > in > > our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I
understand
the
> caution > > of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it. > > > > Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again
to
all
the > > English-speaking countries. > > How could we ask for money when we are not using the power
that
was
> > bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage
that
is
> > condemning Bassel to death? > > I strongly support this. > > As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation
supports
> the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece: > >
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
> > This is much more than a lawsuit. > > A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force
or
the
> threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared
away.
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Thank you to everyone working on this.
Basel is a beautiful person, who contributed in so many ways to sharing knowledge, not only in our community.
A banner (in rotation for a month? with a focused drive on one day coordinated w/ other activist groups?), and possibly a logo ribbon, would be most appropriate.
Andrea writes:
Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again to all the English-speaking
countries.
How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that was bestowed
upon us by the very
same spirit, love and courage that is condemning Bassel to death?
Very well said.
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:57 AM, Asaf Bartov [email protected] wrote:
FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel]], as a landing page to link from the banner.
If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede not everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be able to move ahead. There is, so far, nothing but support.
Let's A/B test some of the images from the category of media of him on Commons. I like the photoset with his wife, but there are others that have been used on banners and pins before.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bassel_Khartabil
SJ
Hoi, I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency. He is likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like a Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs urgency. We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen. That is imho what the message needs to be. Thanks, GerardM
On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov [email protected] wrote:
FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel]], as a landing page to link from the banner.
If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede not everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be able to move ahead. There is, so far, nothing but support.
A.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher [email protected] wrote:
Hi everyone,
Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share
some
more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But we’re committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and keeping you updated going forward.
Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been
tracking
Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the organizers of the #FreeBassel campaign http://freebassel.org [1], and Bassel's
family.
The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and approval with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
- Coordination and communication with related organizations, such as
the
Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
- Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at
the
U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
- Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED story, “A Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS <
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
.”
[2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain if that story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the #FreeBassel coordination community). (10/21)
- Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including
Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
- Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D renderings
of Palmyra missing in Syria https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [3]. (10/08)
- Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
Facebook and Twitter.
Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention <
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
[4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know what’s happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of
information.
Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help him without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with
experienced
human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to
understand
the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.
We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support continued efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note on Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters (like
this
<
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
[5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community
decides
to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are monitoring
the
discussions and activity in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place where community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s anything else we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel.
Katherine
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
[3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [4]
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
[5]
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Mietchen < [email protected]> wrote:
Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here. Please help flesh it out at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, I have started a text.. Thanks, GerardM
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth [email protected]
wrote:
+1 Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could
you
start
a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where it
should
link/what it should advise readers to do? Pete On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected] wrote:
Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something.
On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen <
wrote:
> Hoi, > Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award
ceremony
in
> Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the
award..
> Thanks, > GerardM > > On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni <
> > wrote: > > > 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni <
:
> > > Use the centralnotice. > > > > [...] > > > > > A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death
for
> believing > > in > > > our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I
understand
the
> > caution > > > of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it. > > > > > > Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money
again
to
all
> the > > > English-speaking countries. > > > How could we ask for money when we are not using the power
that
was
> > > bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage
that
is
> > > condemning Bassel to death? > > > > I strongly support this. > > > > As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation
supports
> > the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece: > > > > >
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
> > > > This is much more than a lawsuit. > > > > A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force
or
the
> > threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared
away.
> > > > C > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe:
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Has there been a discussion of timing for this? SJ (who is offline right now) just mentioned that the Free Bassel group may be planning a focused outreach push tomorrow through Friday. Let's coordinate with them if possible. On Nov 25, 2015 11:21 AM, "Gerard Meijssen" [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency. He is likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like a Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs urgency. We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen. That is imho what the message needs to be. Thanks, GerardM
On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov [email protected] wrote:
FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel]], as a landing page to
link
from the banner.
If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede not everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be able
to
move ahead. There is, so far, nothing but support.
A.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher [email protected] wrote:
Hi everyone,
Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share
some
more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But
we’re
committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and keeping you updated going forward.
Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been
tracking
Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the organizers
of
the #FreeBassel campaign http://freebassel.org [1], and Bassel's
family.
The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and
approval
with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
- Coordination and communication with related organizations, such as
the
Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
- Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at
the
U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
- Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED story, “A Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS <
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
.”
[2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain
if
that story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the #FreeBassel coordination community). (10/21)
- Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including
Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
- Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D
renderings
of Palmyra missing in Syria https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [3]. (10/08)
- Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
Facebook and Twitter.
Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention <
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
[4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know what’s happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of
information.
Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help him without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with
experienced
human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to
understand
the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.
We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support continued efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note on Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters (like
this
<
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
[5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community
decides
to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are monitoring
the
discussions and activity in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place where community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s anything
else
we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel.
Katherine
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
[3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [4]
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
[5]
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Mietchen < [email protected]> wrote:
Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here. Please help flesh it out at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, I have started a text.. Thanks, GerardM
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth [email protected]
wrote:
+1 Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could
you
start
a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where
it
should
link/what it should advise readers to do? Pete On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected]
wrote:
> Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something. > > On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen <
> > wrote: > > > Hoi, > > Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award
ceremony
in
> > Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving
the
award..
> > Thanks, > > GerardM > > > > On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni < [email protected] > > > > wrote: > > > > > 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni <
:
> > > > Use the centralnotice. > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death
for
> > believing > > > in > > > > our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I
understand
the
> > > caution > > > > of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it. > > > > > > > > Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money
again
to
all > > the > > > > English-speaking countries. > > > > How could we ask for money when we are not using the power
that
was
> > > > bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage
that
is
> > > > condemning Bassel to death? > > > > > > I strongly support this. > > > > > > As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation
supports
> > > the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece: > > > > > > > > >
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
> > > > > > This is much more than a lawsuit. > > > > > > A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough
force
or
the
> > > threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared
away.
> > > > > > C > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]
?subject=unsubscribe>
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Back at my computer: I checked w/ Jon Phillips and folks at newpalmyra and freebassel.org & pointed them to the Meta talk page. It sounded from a quick chat as though they had something planned this week, but the real question is how could a campaign like this be best directed if it was carried out. I asked them to share their thoughts on what timing would be most effective.
Gerard and I also met today a representative from Amnesty Nederland (Amnesty was one of the previous recipients of the Erasmus Prize). They confirmed that they've had good results by inviting people to flood the phone lines of Embassies, and noted that for Syria many countries may not have a dedicated embassy; but supporters can still call or write an embassy in a neighboring country.
SJ
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 8:58 PM, phoebe ayers [email protected] wrote:
Has there been a discussion of timing for this? SJ (who is offline right now) just mentioned that the Free Bassel group may be planning a focused outreach push tomorrow through Friday. Let's coordinate with them if possible. On Nov 25, 2015 11:21 AM, "Gerard Meijssen" [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency. He
is
likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like a Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs
urgency.
We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen. That
is
imho what the message needs to be. Thanks, GerardM
On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov [email protected] wrote:
FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel]], as a landing page to
link
from the banner.
If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede
not
everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be
able
to
move ahead. There is, so far, nothing but support.
A.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher <
wrote:
Hi everyone,
Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share
some
more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to
this
point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts
are
sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But
we’re
committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and keeping you updated going forward.
Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been
tracking
Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the
organizers
of
the #FreeBassel campaign http://freebassel.org [1], and Bassel's
family.
The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and
approval
with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
- Coordination and communication with related organizations, such
as
the
Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International.
(ongoing)
- Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials
at
the
U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
- Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this
WIRED
story, “A Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS <
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
.”
[2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain
if
that story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the #FreeBassel coordination community). (10/21)
- Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities,
including
Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
- Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D
renderings
of Palmyra missing in Syria https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/
[3].
(10/08)
- Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
Facebook and Twitter.
Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention <
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
[4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know
what’s
happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of
information.
Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help
him
without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with
experienced
human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to
understand
the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.
We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support continued efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note on Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters
(like
this
<
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
[5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community
decides
to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are
monitoring
the
discussions and activity in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place where community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s anything
else
we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel.
Katherine
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
[3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [4]
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
[5]
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Mietchen < [email protected]> wrote:
Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here. Please help flesh it out at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, I have started a text.. Thanks, GerardM
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth <
wrote:
> +1 > Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself,
could
you
start
> a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and
where
it
should
> link/what it should advise readers to do? > Pete > On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected]
wrote:
> > > Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do
something.
> > > > On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen <
> > > > wrote: > > > > > Hoi, > > > Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award
ceremony
in
> > > Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving
the
award..
> > > Thanks, > > > GerardM > > > > > > On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni < > [email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni <
: > > > > > Use the centralnotice. > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to
death
for
> > > believing > > > > in > > > > > our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I
understand
the
> > > > caution > > > > > of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it. > > > > > > > > > > Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money
again
to
> all > > > the > > > > > English-speaking countries. > > > > > How could we ask for money when we are not using the
power
that
was
> > > > > bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and
courage
that
is
> > > > > condemning Bassel to death? > > > > > > > > I strongly support this. > > > > > > > > As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation
supports
> > > > the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
> > > > > > > > This is much more than a lawsuit. > > > > > > > > A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough
force
or
the
> > > > threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be
scared
away.
> > > > > > > > C > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > [email protected] > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:[email protected]
?subject=unsubscribe>
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe:
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Hoi, As this is not a Wikipedia article, it is more of an advertisement, a call to action. Urgency is key. This is not about the well known patterns of a Wikipedia article.
This is not understood, it results at this late stage in an edit war. Either we have a point and make it or we have a Wikipedia style article which is to long to read. It will not be read because there is nothing urgent, nothing that demands attention. Thanks, GerardM
On 25 November 2015 at 11:20, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency. He is likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like a Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs urgency. We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen. That is imho what the message needs to be. Thanks, GerardM
On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov [email protected] wrote:
FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel]], as a landing page to link from the banner.
If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede not everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be able to move ahead. There is, so far, nothing but support.
A.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher [email protected] wrote:
Hi everyone,
Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share
some
more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But we’re committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and keeping you updated going forward.
Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been
tracking
Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the organizers
of
the #FreeBassel campaign http://freebassel.org [1], and Bassel's
family.
The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and approval with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
- Coordination and communication with related organizations, such as
the
Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
- Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at
the
U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
- Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED story, “A Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS <
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
.”
[2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain if that story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the #FreeBassel coordination community). (10/21)
- Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including
Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
- Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D
renderings
of Palmyra missing in Syria https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [3]. (10/08)
- Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
Facebook and Twitter.
Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention <
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
[4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know what’s happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of
information.
Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help him without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with
experienced
human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to
understand
the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.
We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support continued efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note on Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters (like
this
<
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
[5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community
decides
to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are monitoring
the
discussions and activity in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place where community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s anything
else
we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel.
Katherine
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
[3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [4]
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
[5]
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Mietchen < [email protected]> wrote:
Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here. Please help flesh it out at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, I have started a text.. Thanks, GerardM
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth [email protected]
wrote:
+1 Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could
you
start
a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where
it
should
link/what it should advise readers to do? Pete On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected] wrote:
> Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something. > > On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen <
> > wrote: > > > Hoi, > > Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award
ceremony
in
> > Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the
award..
> > Thanks, > > GerardM > > > > On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni < [email protected] > > > > wrote: > > > > > 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni <
:
> > > > Use the centralnotice. > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death
for
> > believing > > > in > > > > our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I
understand
the
> > > caution > > > > of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it. > > > > > > > > Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money
again
to
all > > the > > > > English-speaking countries. > > > > How could we ask for money when we are not using the power
that
was
> > > > bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage
that
is
> > > > condemning Bassel to death? > > > > > > I strongly support this. > > > > > > As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation
supports
> > > the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece: > > > > > > > > >
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
> > > > > > This is much more than a lawsuit. > > > > > > A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough
force
or
the
> > > threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared
away.
> > > > > > C > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]
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Reminder that the current discussion on the banner will be continuing on Meta-Wiki for another 12 hours: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel/Banner/Straw_poll
As of this email, 142 people have shown support for the banner campaign and 84 have opposed the banner campaign.
Thank you to everyone that is participating in the poll and discussion.
-greg (User:Varnent)
On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, As this is not a Wikipedia article, it is more of an advertisement, a call to action. Urgency is key. This is not about the well known patterns of a Wikipedia article.
This is not understood, it results at this late stage in an edit war. Either we have a point and make it or we have a Wikipedia style article which is to long to read. It will not be read because there is nothing urgent, nothing that demands attention. Thanks, GerardM
On 25 November 2015 at 11:20, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Hoi, I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency. He is likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like a Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs urgency. We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen. That is imho what the message needs to be. Thanks, GerardM
On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov [email protected] wrote:
FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel]], as a landing page to link from the banner.
If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede not everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be able to move ahead. There is, so far, nothing but support.
A.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher [email protected] wrote:
Hi everyone,
Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share
some
more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But we’re committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and keeping you updated going forward.
Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been
tracking
Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the organizers
of
the #FreeBassel campaign http://freebassel.org [1], and Bassel's
family.
The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and approval with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
- Coordination and communication with related organizations, such as
the
Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
- Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at
the
U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
- Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED story, “A Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS <
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
.”
[2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain if that story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the #FreeBassel coordination community). (10/21)
- Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including
Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
- Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D
renderings
of Palmyra missing in Syria https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [3]. (10/08)
- Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
Facebook and Twitter.
Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention <
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
[4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know what’s happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of
information.
Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help him without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with
experienced
human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to
understand
the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.
We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support continued efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note on Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters (like
this
<
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
[5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community
decides
to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are monitoring
the
discussions and activity in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place where community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s anything
else
we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel.
Katherine
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
[3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [4]
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
[5]
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Mietchen < [email protected]> wrote:
Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here. Please help flesh it out at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, I have started a text.. Thanks, GerardM
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth [email protected]
wrote:
> +1 > Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could
you
start
> a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where
it
should
> link/what it should advise readers to do? > Pete > On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected] wrote: > >> Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something. >> >> On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen <
>> >> wrote: >> >>> Hoi, >>> Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award
ceremony
in
>>> Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the
award..
>>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> >>> On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni < > [email protected] >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni <
: >>>>> Use the centralnotice. >>>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>>>> A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death
for
>>> believing >>>> in >>>>> our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I
understand
the
>>>> caution >>>>> of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it. >>>>> >>>>> Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money
again
to
> all >>> the >>>>> English-speaking countries. >>>>> How could we ask for money when we are not using the power
that
was
>>>>> bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage
that
is
>>>>> condemning Bassel to death? >>>> >>>> I strongly support this. >>>> >>>> As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation
supports
>>>> the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece: >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
>>>> >>>> This is much more than a lawsuit. >>>> >>>> A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough
force
or
the
>>>> threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared
away.
>>>> >>>> C >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>>> [email protected] >>>> Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>>> <mailto:[email protected]
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Greetings,
Quick update for those interested.
The poll closed this weekend - as scheduled (it was a faster timeline given the urgency of the case/request). Right now, we await assessment and closure of the straw poll by a Steward (request has been made on their Noticeboard).
At the time of closing, the banner campaign had 158 in favor (62.45%) and 95 against (37.55%).
Again, thank you to everyone that participated.
As we await closure and possible next steps, reminder that there is info on what actions you can take at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel
-greg (User:Varnent)
On Nov 28, 2015, at 3:14 AM, Gregory Varnum [email protected] wrote:
Reminder that the current discussion on the banner will be continuing on Meta-Wiki for another 12 hours: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel/Banner/Straw_poll https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel/Banner/Straw_poll
As of this email, 142 people have shown support for the banner campaign and 84 have opposed the banner campaign.
Thank you to everyone that is participating in the poll and discussion.
-greg (User:Varnent)
On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Hoi, As this is not a Wikipedia article, it is more of an advertisement, a call to action. Urgency is key. This is not about the well known patterns of a Wikipedia article.
This is not understood, it results at this late stage in an edit war. Either we have a point and make it or we have a Wikipedia style article which is to long to read. It will not be read because there is nothing urgent, nothing that demands attention. Thanks, GerardM
On 25 November 2015 at 11:20, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Hoi, I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency. He is likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like a Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs urgency. We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen. That is imho what the message needs to be. Thanks, GerardM
On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel>]], as a landing page to link from the banner.
If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede not everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be able to move ahead. There is, so far, nothing but support.
A.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share
some
more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But we’re committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and keeping you updated going forward.
Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been
tracking
Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the organizers
of
the #FreeBassel campaign <http://freebassel.org http://freebassel.org/> [1], and Bassel's
family.
The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and approval with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
- Coordination and communication with related organizations, such as
the
Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
- Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at
the
U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
- Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED story, “A Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS <
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul... http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-could-save-syrian-history-from-isis/
.”
[2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain if that story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the #FreeBassel coordination community). (10/21)
- Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including
Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
- Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D
renderings
of Palmyra missing in Syria https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [3]. (10/08)
- Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
Facebook and Twitter.
Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention <
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
[4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know what’s happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of
information.
Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help him without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with
experienced
human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to
understand
the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.
We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support continued efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note on Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters (like
this
<
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
[5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community
decides
to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are monitoring
the
discussions and activity in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place where community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s anything
else
we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel.
Katherine
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
[3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [4]
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
[5]
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Mietchen < [email protected]> wrote:
Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here. Please help flesh it out at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote: > Hoi, > I have started a text.. > Thanks, > GerardM > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel > > On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth [email protected] wrote: > >> +1 >> Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could
you
start >> a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where
it
should >> link/what it should advise readers to do? >> Pete >> On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something. >>> >>> On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen < [email protected] >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hoi, >>>> Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award
ceremony
in
>>>> Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the award.. >>>> Thanks, >>>> GerardM >>>> >>>> On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni < >> [email protected] >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni <
> : >>>>>> Use the centralnotice. >>>>> >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>>> A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death
for
>>>> believing >>>>> in >>>>>> our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I
understand
the >>>>> caution >>>>>> of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money
again
to
>> all >>>> the >>>>>> English-speaking countries. >>>>>> How could we ask for money when we are not using the power
that
was >>>>>> bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage
that
is >>>>>> condemning Bassel to death? >>>>> >>>>> I strongly support this. >>>>> >>>>> As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation supports >>>>> the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
>>>>> >>>>> This is much more than a lawsuit. >>>>> >>>>> A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough
force
or
the >>>>> threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared
away.
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Hi all,
We thought you would want to see this story about Bassel, published in the UK's Guardian today. It quotes Jimmy, among others, and we spoke with the journalist ahead of publication.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/11/bassel-khartabil-fears-for...
Bassel was also mentioned yesterday by US Secretary of State John Kerry, in his remarks on the occasion of International Human Rights Day.
http://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2015/12/250541.htm
We're continuing to work with people from FreeBassel on how we can support their ongoing advocacy, and appreciate your continued support.
Katherine
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Gregory Varnum [email protected] wrote:
Greetings,
Quick update for those interested.
The poll closed this weekend - as scheduled (it was a faster timeline given the urgency of the case/request). Right now, we await assessment and closure of the straw poll by a Steward (request has been made on their Noticeboard).
At the time of closing, the banner campaign had 158 in favor (62.45%) and 95 against (37.55%).
Again, thank you to everyone that participated.
As we await closure and possible next steps, reminder that there is info on what actions you can take at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel
-greg (User:Varnent)
On Nov 28, 2015, at 3:14 AM, Gregory Varnum [email protected]
wrote:
Reminder that the current discussion on the banner will be continuing on
Meta-Wiki for another 12 hours:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel/Banner/Straw_poll <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel/Banner/Straw_poll%3E
As of this email, 142 people have shown support for the banner campaign
and 84 have opposed the banner campaign.
Thank you to everyone that is participating in the poll and discussion.
-greg (User:Varnent)
On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Hoi, As this is not a Wikipedia article, it is more of an advertisement, a
call
to action. Urgency is key. This is not about the well known patterns of
a
Wikipedia article.
This is not understood, it results at this late stage in an edit war. Either we have a point and make it or we have a Wikipedia style article which is to long to read. It will not be read because there is nothing urgent, nothing that demands attention. Thanks, GerardM
On 25 November 2015 at 11:20, Gerard Meijssen <
[email protected] mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:
Hoi, I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency.
He
is likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like a Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs
urgency.
We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen.
That is
imho what the message needs to be. Thanks, GerardM
On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov <[email protected]
mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel%3E%3E]], as a landing page to
link from the banner.
If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede
not
everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be
able
to move ahead. There is, so far, nothing but support.
A.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher <
[email protected] mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi everyone,
Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share
some
more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to
this
point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts
are
sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But
we’re
committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and keeping you updated going forward.
Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been
tracking
Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the
organizers
of
the #FreeBassel campaign <http://freebassel.org <
http://freebassel.org/%3E%3E [1], and Bassel's
family.
The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and
approval
with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
- Coordination and communication with related organizations, such
as
the
Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
- Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at
the
U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
- Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED story, “A Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS <
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul... < http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
> .” [2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain
if
that story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the #FreeBassel coordination community). (10/21)
- Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including
Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
- Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D
renderings
of Palmyra missing in Syria https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [3]. (10/08)
- Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
Facebook and Twitter.
Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention <
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
> [4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know
what’s
happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of
information.
Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help
him
without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with
experienced
human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to
understand
the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.
We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support continued efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note on Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters
(like
this
<
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
> [5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community
decides
to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are
monitoring
the
discussions and activity in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place where community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s anything
else
we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel.
Katherine
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
[3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [4]
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
[5]
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Mietchen < [email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here. > Please help flesh it out at > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel . > > Daniel > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen > [email protected] wrote: >> Hoi, >> I have started a text.. >> Thanks, >> GerardM >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel >> >> On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth [email protected] > wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could
you
> start >>> a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where
it
> should >>> link/what it should advise readers to do? >>> Pete >>> On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected]
wrote:
>>> >>>> Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something. >>>> >>>> On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen < > [email protected] >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hoi, >>>>> Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award
ceremony
in >>>>> Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the > award.. >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> GerardM >>>>> >>>>> On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni < >>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni < [email protected] >> : >>>>>>> Use the centralnotice. >>>>>> >>>>>> [...] >>>>>> >>>>>>> A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death
for
>>>>> believing >>>>>> in >>>>>>> our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I understand > the >>>>>> caution >>>>>>> of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money
again
to >>> all >>>>> the >>>>>>> English-speaking countries. >>>>>>> How could we ask for money when we are not using the power that > was >>>>>>> bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage that > is >>>>>>> condemning Bassel to death? >>>>>> >>>>>> I strongly support this. >>>>>> >>>>>> As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation > supports >>>>>> the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
>>>>>> >>>>>> This is much more than a lawsuit. >>>>>> >>>>>> A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough
force
or > the >>>>>> threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared away. >>>>>> >>>>>> C >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> Unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>>>>> mailto:[email protected] ?subject=unsubscribe> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>>>> mailto:[email protected] ?subject=unsubscribe> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>>> [email protected] >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > , >>>> mailto:[email protected] ?subject=unsubscribe >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>> [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe:
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Hoi,
If you are serious as a Wikipedian and, when you think that a Syrian can be a Wikipedian, you may appreciate the need to know at least about some Syrians and a little more about Syria.
At the Erasmus award ceremony in a conversation with people from the Tropenmuseum the idea came up to do more Wikipedia things about both Syria and Syrians. The Tropenmuseum has a GLAM contribution to help us illustrate such articles ready for upload. Thanks, GerardM
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/12/missingbassel-what-to-do-for-him-...
On 11 December 2015 at 21:43, Katherine Maher [email protected] wrote:
Hi all,
We thought you would want to see this story about Bassel, published in the UK's Guardian today. It quotes Jimmy, among others, and we spoke with the journalist ahead of publication.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/11/bassel-khartabil-fears-for...
Bassel was also mentioned yesterday by US Secretary of State John Kerry, in his remarks on the occasion of International Human Rights Day.
http://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2015/12/250541.htm
We're continuing to work with people from FreeBassel on how we can support their ongoing advocacy, and appreciate your continued support.
Katherine
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Gregory Varnum <[email protected]
wrote:
Greetings,
Quick update for those interested.
The poll closed this weekend - as scheduled (it was a faster timeline given the urgency of the case/request). Right now, we await assessment
and
closure of the straw poll by a Steward (request has been made on their Noticeboard).
At the time of closing, the banner campaign had 158 in favor (62.45%) and 95 against (37.55%).
Again, thank you to everyone that participated.
As we await closure and possible next steps, reminder that there is info on what actions you can take at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel
-greg (User:Varnent)
On Nov 28, 2015, at 3:14 AM, Gregory Varnum [email protected]
wrote:
Reminder that the current discussion on the banner will be continuing
on
Meta-Wiki for another 12 hours:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel/Banner/Straw_poll <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel/Banner/Straw_poll%3E
As of this email, 142 people have shown support for the banner campaign
and 84 have opposed the banner campaign.
Thank you to everyone that is participating in the poll and discussion.
-greg (User:Varnent)
On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Hoi, As this is not a Wikipedia article, it is more of an advertisement, a
call
to action. Urgency is key. This is not about the well known patterns
of
a
Wikipedia article.
This is not understood, it results at this late stage in an edit war. Either we have a point and make it or we have a Wikipedia style
article
which is to long to read. It will not be read because there is nothing urgent, nothing that demands attention. Thanks, GerardM
On 25 November 2015 at 11:20, Gerard Meijssen <
[email protected] mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:
Hoi, I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency.
He
is likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like
a
Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs
urgency.
We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen.
That is
imho what the message needs to be. Thanks, GerardM
On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov <[email protected]
mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel%3E%3E]], as a landing page to
link from the banner.
If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede
not
everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be
able
to move ahead. There is, so far, nothing but support.
A.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher <
[email protected] mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi everyone, > > Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to
share
some > more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to
this
> point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts
are
> sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But
we’re
> committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community,
and
> keeping you updated going forward. > > Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been tracking > Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the
organizers
of > the #FreeBassel campaign <http://freebassel.org <
http://freebassel.org/%3E%3E [1], and Bassel's
family. > The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and
approval
> with the #FreeBassel campaign, including: > > - Coordination and communication with related organizations, such
as
the > Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International.
(ongoing)
> - Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials
at
the > U.S. State Department. (ongoing) > - Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and > contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this
WIRED
> story, “A > Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS > < >
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
<
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
>> .” > [2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for
certain
if
> that > story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the > #FreeBassel > coordination community). (10/21) > - Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities,
including
> Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15) > - Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D renderings > of Palmyra missing in Syria > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/
[3].
> (10/08) > - Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on > Facebook and Twitter. > > Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention > < >
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
>> > [4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of > information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know
what’s
> happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of information. > Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help
him
> without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with experienced > human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to understand > the best actions to take at different times over the past two
months.
> > We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support
continued
> efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note
on
> Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters
(like
this > < >
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
>> > [5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community decides > to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are
monitoring
the > discussions and activity in > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place
where
> community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s
anything
else > we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel. > > Katherine > > [1] http://freebassel.org/ > [2] > >
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
> [3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ > [4] > >
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
> [5] > >
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Mietchen < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here. >> Please help flesh it out at >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel . >> >> Daniel >> >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen >> [email protected] wrote: >>> Hoi, >>> I have started a text.. >>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel >>> >>> On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth <
>> wrote: >>> >>>> +1 >>>> Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself,
could
you >> start >>>> a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and
where
it >> should >>>> link/what it should advise readers to do? >>>> Pete >>>> On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected]
wrote:
>>>> >>>>> Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something. >>>>> >>>>> On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen < >> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hoi, >>>>>> Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony > in >>>>>> Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving
the
>> award.. >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> GerardM >>>>>> >>>>>> On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni < >>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni < > [email protected] >>> : >>>>>>>> Use the centralnotice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for >>>>>> believing >>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I > understand >> the >>>>>>> caution >>>>>>>> of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again > to >>>> all >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> English-speaking countries. >>>>>>>> How could we ask for money when we are not using the power > that >> was >>>>>>>> bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage > that >> is >>>>>>>> condemning Bassel to death? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I strongly support this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation >> supports >>>>>>> the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
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On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi,
If you are serious as a Wikipedian and, when you think that a Syrian can be a Wikipedian, you may appreciate the need to know at least about some Syrians and a little more about Syria...
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/12/missingbassel-what-to-do-for-him-...
Yes. Translation of recent tweets, if not entire articles, also helps broaden the discussion.
The Guardian piece was really good, thank you. As was the personal history Joi published: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joichi-ito/mit-researcher-sentenced-_b_8760354...
Kerry's mention is promising; let's keep pushing for visibility at this level.
Sam
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Katherine Maher [email protected] wrote:
Hi all,
We thought you would want to see this story about Bassel, published in the UK's Guardian today. It quotes Jimmy, among others, and we spoke with the journalist ahead of publication.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/11/bassel-khartabil-fears-for...
Bassel was also mentioned yesterday by US Secretary of State John Kerry, in his remarks on the occasion of International Human Rights Day.
http://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2015/12/250541.htm
We're continuing to work with people from FreeBassel on how we can support their ongoing advocacy, and appreciate your continued support.
Katherine
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Gregory Varnum <[email protected]
wrote:
Greetings,
Quick update for those interested.
The poll closed this weekend - as scheduled (it was a faster timeline given the urgency of the case/request). Right now, we await assessment
and
closure of the straw poll by a Steward (request has been made on their Noticeboard).
At the time of closing, the banner campaign had 158 in favor (62.45%) and 95 against (37.55%).
Again, thank you to everyone that participated.
As we await closure and possible next steps, reminder that there is info on what actions you can take at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel
-greg (User:Varnent)
On Nov 28, 2015, at 3:14 AM, Gregory Varnum [email protected]
wrote:
Reminder that the current discussion on the banner will be continuing
on
Meta-Wiki for another 12 hours:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel/Banner/Straw_poll <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel/Banner/Straw_poll%3E
As of this email, 142 people have shown support for the banner campaign
and 84 have opposed the banner campaign.
Thank you to everyone that is participating in the poll and discussion.
-greg (User:Varnent)
On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Hoi, As this is not a Wikipedia article, it is more of an advertisement, a
call
to action. Urgency is key. This is not about the well known patterns
of
a
Wikipedia article.
This is not understood, it results at this late stage in an edit war. Either we have a point and make it or we have a Wikipedia style
article
which is to long to read. It will not be read because there is nothing urgent, nothing that demands attention. Thanks, GerardM
On 25 November 2015 at 11:20, Gerard Meijssen <
[email protected] mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:
Hoi, I have looked at the article. It does not have the necessary urgency.
He
is likely to have been sentenced to death and the article reads like
a
Wikipedia article. This is Meta, it is not Wikipedia and it needs
urgency.
We appeal to the world to get involved to let his death not happen.
That is
imho what the message needs to be. Thanks, GerardM
On 25 November 2015 at 02:57, Asaf Bartov <[email protected]
mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
FYI: User:Odder has now created [[m:Free Bassel <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Free_Bassel%3E%3E]], as a landing page to
link from the banner.
If anyone would like to help with a design for the banner (I concede
not
everyone shares my taste for 10pt-black-on-white text), we would be
able
to move ahead. There is, so far, nothing but support.
A.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Katherine Maher <
[email protected] mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi everyone, > > Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to
share
some > more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to
this
> point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts
are
> sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But
we’re
> committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community,
and
> keeping you updated going forward. > > Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been tracking > Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the
organizers
of > the #FreeBassel campaign <http://freebassel.org <
http://freebassel.org/%3E%3E [1], and Bassel's
family. > The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and
approval
> with the #FreeBassel campaign, including: > > - Coordination and communication with related organizations, such
as
the > Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International.
(ongoing)
> - Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials
at
the > U.S. State Department. (ongoing) > - Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and > contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this
WIRED
> story, “A > Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS > < >
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
<
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
>> .” > [2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for
certain
if
> that > story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the > #FreeBassel > coordination community). (10/21) > - Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities,
including
> Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15) > - Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D renderings > of Palmyra missing in Syria > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/
[3].
> (10/08) > - Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on > Facebook and Twitter. > > Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention > < >
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
>> > [4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of > information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know
what’s
> happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of information. > Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help
him
> without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with experienced > human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to understand > the best actions to take at different times over the past two
months.
> > We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support
continued
> efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note
on
> Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters
(like
this > < >
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
>> > [5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community decides > to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are
monitoring
the > discussions and activity in > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place
where
> community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s
anything
else > we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel. > > Katherine > > [1] http://freebassel.org/ > [2] > >
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
> [3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ > [4] > >
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
> [5] > >
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Mietchen < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here. >> Please help flesh it out at >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel . >> >> Daniel >> >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen >> [email protected] wrote: >>> Hoi, >>> I have started a text.. >>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel >>> >>> On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth <
>> wrote: >>> >>>> +1 >>>> Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself,
could
you >> start >>>> a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and
where
it >> should >>>> link/what it should advise readers to do? >>>> Pete >>>> On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected]
wrote:
>>>> >>>>> Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something. >>>>> >>>>> On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen < >> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hoi, >>>>>> Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony > in >>>>>> Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving
the
>> award.. >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> GerardM >>>>>> >>>>>> On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni < >>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni < > [email protected] >>> : >>>>>>>> Use the centralnotice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for >>>>>> believing >>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I > understand >> the >>>>>>> caution >>>>>>>> of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again > to >>>> all >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> English-speaking countries. >>>>>>>> How could we ask for money when we are not using the power > that >> was >>>>>>>> bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage > that >> is >>>>>>>> condemning Bassel to death? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I strongly support this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation >> supports >>>>>>> the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
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Thanks Katherine for this mail, it gives a lot of context and details, and also thanks for the difficult work the WMF is doing.
Is the opinion of more experienced NGOs and activists that a dedicated banner/ribbon/logo would be a good idea? We all think that is an enormous power that we have as a community, so we should use it carefully. But is the most powerful weapon we have (well, second only to a Wikipedia strike).
Again, thanks for your efforts.
Aubrey
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Katherine Maher [email protected] wrote:
Hi everyone,
Thank you for raising this issue here on this list. I wanted to share some more information about how we’ve been working to support Bassel to this point, in public and behind the scenes. Unfortunately, some efforts are sensitive, so can’t be shared in full on public mailing lists. But we’re committed to supporting next steps or decisions by the community, and keeping you updated going forward.
Working with some other colleagues at the Foundation, we have been tracking Bassel's case for some time now, in direct contact with the organizers of the #FreeBassel campaign http://freebassel.org [1], and Bassel's family. The actions we have taken to date have been in coordination and approval with the #FreeBassel campaign, including:
- Coordination and communication with related organizations, such as the
Electronic Frontier Foundation and Amnesty International. (ongoing)
- Regular contact and updates with senior human rights officials at the
U.S. State Department. (ongoing)
- Outreach to the press around Bassel’s arbitrary detention and
contributions to the free knowledge movement. Please see this WIRED story, “A Jailed Activist’s 3-D Models Could Save Syria’s History From ISIS < http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul...
.”
[2] (Although we did reach out to WIRED, we cannot say for certain if that story was the direct result of our efforts or others within the #FreeBassel coordination community). (10/21)
- Raising Bassel’s case in public speaking opportunities, including
Lila’s keynote to the Creative Commons Summit. (10/15)
- Blog post #FREEBASSEL: Free culture advocate who built 3D renderings
of Palmyra missing in Syria https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [3]. (10/08)
- Ongoing participation in #FreeBassel social media campaigns on
Facebook and Twitter.
Bassel is in a situation known as arbitrary detention < http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe...
[4]. Arbitrary detentions are characterized by uncertainty, lack of information, and volatility. They’re scary because we don’t know what’s happening, and often we are making decisions without a lot of information. Our goal is always to support Bassel to make sure our efforts help him without putting him at greater risk. So we’ve been working with experienced human rights campaigners, including the #FreeBassel campaign, to understand the best actions to take at different times over the past two months.
We’ve been in touch with Bassel’s family, who would support continued efforts to raise awareness about Bassel’s situation through a note on Wikipedia if that should happen. We can also join action letters (like this < http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
[5]) where the community agrees it's appropriate. If the community decides to move forward with an action, we are here to help. We are monitoring the discussions and activity in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel as a place where community consensus can form. Please let us know if there’s anything else we can do to support efforts to raise awareness for Bassel.
Katherine
[1] http://freebassel.org/ [2]
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/jailed-activist-bassel-khartabil-3d-models-coul... [3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/ [4]
http://en.alkarama.org/1763-syria-un-calls-for-the-release-of-freedom-of-spe... [5]
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-ad...
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Mietchen < [email protected]> wrote:
Yes, a CentralNotice would seem appropriate here. Please help flesh it out at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel .
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen [email protected] wrote:
Hoi, I have started a text.. Thanks, GerardM
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banner:Free_Bassel
On 24 November 2015 at 15:25, Pete Forsyth [email protected]
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+1 Gerard, or Andrea, or anybody who knows better than myself, could you
start
a draft on Meta Wiki with a proposed text for a banner, and where it
should
link/what it should advise readers to do? Pete On Nov 24, 2015 3:13 AM, "Tito Dutta" [email protected] wrote:
Sad news. Agree with everyone here that we should do something.
On 24 November 2015 at 16:38, Gerard Meijssen <
wrote:
Hoi, Tomorrow we have a platform as well at the Erasmus award ceremony
in
Amsterdam. It is Wikipedia, its community that is receiving the
award..
Thanks, GerardM
On 24 November 2015 at 12:03, Cristian Consonni <
wrote:
> 2015-11-24 10:47 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni <
:
> > Use the centralnotice. > > [...] > > > A Wikipedian, a member of our community sentenced to death for believing > in > > our Mission and Vision is something extraordinary. I
understand
the
> caution > > of setting a precedent, but I think it's worth it. > > > > Also, remember: we have few days before we'll ask money again
to
all
the > > English-speaking countries. > > How could we ask for money when we are not using the power
that
was
> > bestowed upon us by the very same spirit, love and courage
that
is
> > condemning Bassel to death? > > I strongly support this. > > As for the precedent, recall that the Wikimedia Foundation
supports
> the users, we did this with User:Diu in Greece: > >
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/02/14/wikimedia-foundation-supports-wikipedi...
> > This is much more than a lawsuit. > > A message I do not want us to send is that if you enough force
or
the
> threat is big enough, then we, as a movement, will be scared
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