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NO ONE WANTED ANOTHER WAR
Thomas Theisman didn't. After risking his life and a fresh round of civil war to overthrow the Committee of Public Safety's reign of terror and restore the Republic of Haven's ancient Constitution, an interstellar war was the last thing he wanted.
Baron High Ridge didn't. The Prime Minister of Manticore was perfectly happy with the war he had. No one was shooting anyone else at the moment, and as long as he could spin out negotiations on the formal treaty of peace, his government could continue to milk all those "hostilities only" tax measures for their own partisan projects.
His Imperial Majesty Gustav didn't. Now that the fighting between the Star Kingdom and the Havenites had ended, the Andermani Emperor had his own plans for Silesia, and he was confident he could achieve them without a war of his own.
Protector Benjamin didn't. His people had made too deep a commitment to the Manticoran Alliance, in blood as well as treasure, for him to want to risk seeing it all thrown away.
And Honor Harrington certainly didn't. The "Salamander" had seen the inside of too many furnaces already, knew too much about how much war cost.
Unfortunately, what they wanted didn't matter....

869 pages, Hardcover

First published October 1, 2002

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David Weber

358 books4,410 followers
David Mark Weber is an American science fiction and fantasy author. He was born in Cleveland, Ohio in 1952.

Many of his stories have military, particularly naval, themes, and fit into the military science fiction genre. He frequently places female leading characters in what have been traditionally male roles.

One of his most popular and enduring characters is Honor Harrington whose alliterated name is an homage to C.S. Forester's character Horatio Hornblower and her last name from a fleet doctor in Patrick O'Brian's Master and Commander . Her story, together with the "Honorverse" she inhabits, has been developed through 16 novels and six shared-universe anthologies, as of spring 2013 (other works are in production). In 2008, he donated his archive to the department of Rare Books and Special Collections at Northern Illinois University.

Many of his books are available online, either in their entirety as part of the Baen Free Library or, in the case of more recent books, in the form of sample chapters (typically the first 25-33% of the work).

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Profile Image for Curtis Edmonds.
Author 12 books84 followers
January 2, 2013
David Weber writes the Honor Harrington series, and the early books (those that I've read) were actually pretty good. It's high-quality space opera, starring a starship captain in the far-future version of the Royal Navy. The books are -- somewhat sketchily -- drawn from the same Napoleonic-era sources as the Aubrey-Maturin series, or the Hornblower series. (The lead bad guy in Nouveau Paris in the early books is named "Rob S. Pierre", get it?) Honor Harrington is a character in the Hornblower tradition of audacity, competence, and awkwardness, and when Weber writes about her, it's done with brio and panache. Harrington's a natural leader, with the guts and energy needed for high command, along with an incapacity to suffer fools that gets her into frequent feuds with those selfsame fools.

I am reading the series somewhat out of sequence -- blame my service -- and wasn't a bit surprised that War of Honor was a letdown. The ninth or tenth volumes of any sci-fi or fantasy saga tend to be potboilers at best, unreadable at worst. I wasn't expecting anything really good or outstanding from War of Honor, just a quick read and then move on to the next target, er, book.

I regret to have to tell you that War of Honor is almost laughably bad. It is the sort of book that cries out for an editor, or maybe even an author. It is overstuffed, padded, and upholstered, but somehow not comfortable.

There are basically two problems with War of Honor, either of which could be fixed in about fifteen minutes with the editing features in Microsoft Word. It is not that the novel is too long. I would welcome -- I suppose -- a really long Honor Harrington novel if it were a novel about Honor Harrington. This is not that. Instead, War of Honor is about politics, and not in a good way. Weber falls into the common trap of being overly interested in his fantasy world, which is about as bad as being overly interested in your fantasy baseball team. It's important for me to know that I have Grady Sizemore and Hideki Matsui and Jason Bay in my fantasy outfield, but you could care less, and I wouldn't think to bore you about it.

So there's pages -- chapters -- whole sections of discussions of the political situation in the Star Kingdom of Manticore and the Republic of Haven. There were similar chapters in previous books, mind you, but those chapters usually were pretty skinny, and they usually featured the politicians b!tching about poor Honor. Now, there's more stuff in the book -- by a factor of about eleven -- about the "High Ridge Government" and its nefarious deeds than there is about starships blowing up. This is unforgivable, and mean-spirited to boot.

Basically, all one would have to do would be to highlight the e-text of War of Honor, delete all the chapters about political matters, and stick to the story. However, that gets us into the second problem. The plot of War of Honor is recycled - hell, not even that. It's like it's been passed down through the generations like some heirloom, and brought out for special occasions. Yet again, the political operatives have stuck poor Honor out on the sharp end of the spear, putting her in an impossible position against superior enemy fire -- and she manages to fight her way through yet again, burnishing her reputation in the process.

But even with high-tech editing solutions, there really isn't much to be done with War of Honor. This is because Weber has lost sight of what made the prior books so fun -- not just space battles, but the character of Honor herself. So much of what happens in War of Honor has nothing to do with its title character, which is a mistake as large as the Manticore Junction. When she appears at the end of the book to save the day, it's almost an afterthought, and that's a shame. The trick to writing long series (the O'Brian books are exemplia gratia) is to make the books about the characters. War of Honor is not about Honor Harrington, at least not for large chunks of text, and that's why it fails.
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551 reviews99 followers
February 15, 2015
This series is beginning to get tedious.

this volume contains about 75% more words than anybody could reasonably use, mostly to tell us tedious detail of the politics of Manticore. I know it's not really unbelievable that corrupt politicians could bend and break laws to their own benefit, and actually believe their own lies. after all, politicians fabricated evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and somehow managed to believe those lies too, but just because truth is stranger than fiction doesn't mean that such fiction is interesting to read.

But even some of the smarter characters act in ways that are at best odd, but at worst stupid. people contradict themselves, act against both their best interests and those of their nation, and just basically make themselves as unsympathetic as possible.
Profile Image for Christine.
6,957 reviews535 followers
October 28, 2016
I'm conflicted about this book. In terms of the last book, parts of this book are much better. There is less Honor worship, which is so nice.

However, the plot also requires the reader to buy a relationship between White Haven and Honor, and I just don't buy the love. I really, really don't. It seems totally contrived. Not only because there seems to be no feelings that they actually show, but because of Sam's adoption of White Have. It feels like Weber is beating everyone over the head while screaming, "They belong together". Weber, I would buy it if you actually showed it instead of telling us about it. Right now, I think Honor has more chemistry with Clinkscales, though her true mate is Nimtz.

And do not get me started on Emily Alexander. Honestly, it is so lucky for the couple that Emily Alexander is not only understanding in that nothing happened (which I can understand) but, after a long talk with Sam, is suggests a threesome. Talk about an understanding wife who bucks tradition that we don't actually see her coming to terms with.

And that ruined the book for me. That and the fact that Weber tells us Honor admires other women for the scarifcie they made, but doesn't tell us what the scarifice is while repeating why Honor is special in so many different ways.



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Profile Image for Daniel.
804 reviews75 followers
March 9, 2018
Jedan od onih serijala koje volim da citam a jako je tesko objasniti zasto. Knjige su ogromne (prosek oko 800 strana), jako spore na momente i likovi kao i dogadjaji jako predvidljivi i na momente dvodimenzionalni.

Ali opet kada se krene sa citanjem ima ono nesto sto drzi paznju, vuce da se dalje istrazuje i vidimo kako ce se prica dalje razvijati. Tempom puza kojeg teraju da ide po putu od soli, ali kao sto reko drzi paznju.

Prica ovog puta ima daleko veci fokus na politiku velikih sila u ovom delu svemira nego na borbu sto pretstavlja interesantan obrt. Cisto da dobijemo sliku zbog cega se vole svi ovi silni ratovi o kojima citamo u prethodnih 9 knjiga. Kratak odgovor: glupi i pohlepni politicari :(

Kada imamo ovko puno strana ondak se zna da ce mo sresti puno likova i vecina ih je dosta razvijena, cak i oni koji su predvidjeni da prezive par strana dobijaju dosta prostora da ih upoznamo sto jeste za svaku pohvalu. S druge strane posto ih ima gomila da me pitate kako se ko zove tesko bi znao da kazem :P

I da jos jedan detalj, piscu je jasno da ljudi vremenom zaborave sta su procitali ili brkaju sa drugim knjigama pa voli da ubacuje relativno detaljne potsetnike mada uvek za ono sto je relevantno udatom momentu. Meni je bio odlican izbor, neko ce reci nepotrebno rastezanje materijala.

Sve u svemu kniga u stilu samog serijala, jako tesko preporuciti sem za one koji imaju vremena i strpljenja da se upuste u ovo. Ja spadam u tkve tako da jedva cekam da krenem dalje... posle mesec do dva da svarim procitano.
Profile Image for Pat.
137 reviews18 followers
November 2, 2014
David Weber employs an unfortunate writing device that causes frustration and disatisfaction in this reader. Let me describe it this way. If you spend 912 pages reading a slow political train wreck instigated by some very stupid, vain, manipulative, corrupt, dishonest, and narciscistic politicians leading to a literal war of misunderstanding between the good guys. Why can't the reader have some emotional catharsis by partaking in the come-up-ins of most of the villains. Instead, their punishment lies somewhere between chapters.

Doesn't Mr. Weber realize that after slogging through hundreds of pages of detailed descriptions of their sins, the reader expects some payment for the pain. It's as if we are being denied justice. The entire plot has been setting us up for them 'getting theirs' and he doesn't even write the chapter showing it! Extremely disappointing.
Profile Image for Jim.
Author 7 books2,066 followers
October 23, 2014
The basic story was again 4 stars, but this book is even thicker than the previous ones due to a lot of extra information that knocked it back a star. It wasn't always bad. There were a lot of interesting back stories & the universe is filled in to a large extent. Unfortunately, either through LONG conversations or pages of explanation, every major point is thoroughly dissected & discussed in such gory detail that I was forced to conclude that Weber thinks his readers are idiots. I wound up skimming too much in sections & missed some important pieces, but that was still no problem because they'd be brought up again & again.

The politics of the Honorverse were also discussed in detail & with relentless repetition. They were good though. The plot of the book hung on these machinations & the utter ridiculousness of the situation was entirely too plausible with too many parallels today & in our own recent history. The inevitability of the wheels coming off was just too ludicrously realistic to be much fun.

The characters all grew well & a lot of favorites were back in action. They've still got a ways to go & there is no sign that the end is near. I'm going to attempt to read the next book, At All Costs, & have ordered the following one, although I'm not sure I'll want to continue after that from the blurbs. I really do want to see some sort of closure, but I don't think there will be any. I'm teetering on the brink of series burn out & have been for some time. I certainly don't want to read all the Honorverse stories.
Profile Image for Christian.
95 reviews17 followers
March 11, 2015
David Weber's writing is space opera pulp claptrap in the best sense. Larger-than-life characters with extraordinary luck thump their chests and bray about honor while cursing the nitwit politicians who keep sticking them in awkward situations. Of course, enough characters die in the meantime to make it seem compelling.

The hook: Weber blatantly strip-mines the golden classics of the Age of Sail. It's Hornblower in space. It's Aubrey without Maturin, crossed with Sir Walter Drake, carrying around a six-legged space-cat and fighting the 41th century equivalent of pre-Napoleonic revolutionary France.

I'm a sucker for that thing, but at the end of the day you're better off with the real thing, no matter how much Weber's skimmable prose takes your mind off the troubles at hand.

Each Weber book I read is like eating a two-pound bag of gummi bears in one sitting. It's tasty at the time, but when I'm done all I'm left with is a stomach ache and the deep-seated wish I'd done something more sensible with my time. And then, long after the guilt has been forgotten, I'm doing it all again.
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1,105 reviews22 followers
October 22, 2018
Not my thing.
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230 reviews3 followers
October 14, 2009
The thing that really hurts is the belated discovery (after I picked up this book at the library because it was the only Weber book on the shelf, when I was looking for the third book in the Armageddon Reef series) that this is in fact the tenth volume in the Honor Harrington series--which means, of course, that I either must buy the preceding nine books [yes, it is that well written:] or else order them one at a time through the interlibrary loan system. I am still unhappy with Weber’s proclivity to use difficult-to-remember multiple names for people (Example: Commodore Lady Michelle Henke, Countess Gold Peak, which might be used to its full extent, as is often the case, but which also may be used piecemeal at random, such as Commodore Henke, Lady Henke, Michelle Henke, Countess Gold Peak, or even Gold Peak) … but I am absolutely fascinated by the complex interconnected grouping of worlds that Weber has created (one of which is Haven; can that be the same Haven that was the locale for the Armageddon Reef series? [In which case the trials and tribulations of the characters in that series seems to have been largely for naught, except that this cannot be, unless the Gbaba are to be met in still another series to come!:]) I cannot really think of the word for this, as there are at least five different groupings of interstellar civilizations, all interacting with each other, each with its own forms of government (each of which has two or more opposing political groups), and all hell-bent on coming out on top.

Lady Dame Honor Harrington, Duchess and Steadholder Harrington, in this book, is part of the government group that currently is out of power in the Star Kingdom of Manticore, as is her non-lover (so identified because both of them are too honorable to admit their love, because he has a crippled wife at home), Admiral Hamish Alexander, Thirteenth Earl of White Haven, who had succeeded in vanquishing the Anderman Empire fleet in their last skirmish, many years ago. The current political leader is High Ridge (I forget his given name), who is so busy oppressing the Adermanians that he does not notice that the Republic of Haven is beginning to threaten a smaller interstellar grouping that the Manitocoreans took over during that war … and who is completely unprepared for the results of opening a new wormhole egress point that will turn out to be inside the much larger Solarian League. Do you see what I mean about complexity? And keep in mind that each of these governments has at least two separate political factions, and people from each such faction are included in the book, expressing their different points of view, goals, etc. I think I was at least a third of the way through the 861-page book before I began to get all of these different groupings sorted out in my mind, and I had to review the interstellar maps provided at the front, as well as the voluminous glossary at the end, several times before that understanding came about.

Through it all, Weber displays a dazzling ability to create characters, make them multidimensional, and then kill them off as the overall story rolls out. If I have any real complaints, it is that the ending comes too quickly (I expected more detailed description of the final battle of the intergalactic fleets that clearly was being built up to throughout the book), with several of the intertwined issues being resolved too pat. On the other hand, this clearly will not be the last in the series, as several big issues are left too open-ended.

Profile Image for Jamie Collins.
1,480 reviews313 followers
October 1, 2014
Another entertaining entry in the saga of Honor Harrington. I can't deny that some sections of this were slow to the point of tediousness, but the last 200 pages provided the usual riveting payoff. This series is pretty cheesy space opera but sometimes it hits the spot. I've already ordered the next one.

While this book evidently wasn't edited for length, someone has taken the trouble to reduce the word and phrase repetition that was so distracting in the previous book. There is also a great deal less obsequious worship of Harrington as well as a pleasing absence of cackling, mustache-twirling villains plotting her downfall.

We still have the black-or-white characterization (you can easily tell the bad guys from the good guys by their personal opinion of Harrington) but I have always liked the fact that we're shown the point of view of both sides of every conflict. We follow individuals among the Havenites nearly as closely as we follow our heroes. The ending of this book felt a little incomplete, in fact, because for some reason we are not given any reaction shot whatsoever from the Havenites in the aftermath of the grand finale.

I'm not buying the romance between Harrington and Earl White Haven. I feel like the author is insisting that they're in love without demonstrating it, and I think he's trying too hard to make their union literally irresistible. I can't decide if Harrington is going to take a page from Nelson's book and enter a 3-way with White Haven and his wife, or if the wife will conveniently expire like poor Maria Hornblower.
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497 reviews84 followers
January 25, 2011
At first I was hesitant that my favorite space opera series was focusing almost an entire book on interplanetary politics. I wanted to see Honor in battle. But, I quickly became hooked by the excellent side character development, as well as the storyline. I thoroughly enjoyed the behind the scenes intrigue, as much as the eventual offensive. As always, an excellent read!
Profile Image for Neil.
1,207 reviews14 followers
December 29, 2019
I "hate" this book, but for different reasons than the first time I read it. I think it does help having read the first nine books in the series (to a limited extent) as the first time I read it, I did not realize it was the tenth book in a series (although I did read the two books prior to this one). I hate that I finished it and felt so darn dissatisfied . I hate that about two books ago I started rooting for the "Peeps" to win and for the "Manties" to lose, which will probably never happen. Sure, the Manties may lose some battles, but nothing ever truly serious. I mean, it does not really matter what bones the author throws the reader in terms of Havenite victories and Manticoran losses, as it does not matter at all.

I 'hate' that I both 'hated' this book and enjoyed it at the same time, that it frustrated me to no end. I suppose that could possibly indicate a level of . . . if not 'genius' on the part of the author, then whatever is a step or two below 'genius.' Most of this book is about politics; it is about people sitting around and talking and scheming and complaining and backstabbing and expressing how much they hate somebody else. I am sure there is probably more 'truth' in the book inre politics and whatnot than I realize, but it got so darn boring that so very little was happening throughout most of the book! Yet, the book still managed to hold my interest enough for me to want to know how things would turn out in the end (I mean, I remembered the gist of the book from the first time I read it, but it was still a 'bare bones' memory). I will say this - I thought the author did an excellent job at not just presenting various viewpoints throughout the novel of so many different characters, but he also managed to retain those viewpoints of most of the characters, so that they did not 'change' their stances over the course of the novel.

I found myself getting very tired of the whole “Honor-Hamish affair” thing going on throughout the book. It really takes away from the story and is completely idiotic. Well, the first third or so of the novel, anyway. I just do not know how 'necessary' it was for Honor's development as a character or to the story overall. The way the author handled that really annoyed me, too, to be honest. Stupid, stupid, stupid moment in the book.

Some other things that bugged me:
After nine volumes , the author has changed his stripes! But, yeah, it’d be nice if this guy would stay consistent. Whatever.



There was an interesting dissection of Honor on pages 247 – 253. I never thought of it that way or looked at it that way.



Overall, I suppose I liked the book. Kinda. Not as much as I would have liked; it was too focused on politics and not much else. I think I would probably rate it 2.5 - 2.7, but I did not like it enough or enjoy it enough to give it 3-stars, so 2.0-stars it is.
Profile Image for Ron.
Author 1 book153 followers
December 7, 2011
Ah, Weber's finally broken the code. Since his re-telling of series back story has grown to 300 to 400 pages, the only way to have a decent amount of new material in a book is to pump up the total . . . in this case, to over 800 pages. Well, it worked.

Much better story telling and character development because he gave himself enough "elbow room" to tell his story.

Profile Image for Dan.
1,391 reviews73 followers
March 29, 2021
2018 re-read. Very good. The whole series is excellent.
Profile Image for Fredrick Danysh.
6,844 reviews182 followers
June 3, 2020
I found this to be a difficult read due to the extensive story lines and development of numerous characters. The book itself is based on a war that is not being fought or efforts made to end it due to personal motives of many leaders who benefit from a war without actually fighting it. This edition included a DVD containing a collection of Honor Harrington works.
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166 reviews5 followers
February 29, 2024
DNF @114 pages

If you're looking for a good spot to end the series... the last book was the spot to do it.

I'm not reading 1114 pages of nothing but exposition, especially since nothing of note happened in 114 pages AND this has become an increasingly big issue over the last 6ish books
Profile Image for Baron Yeung.
2 reviews
February 24, 2016
I don't know why other people read the Honor Harrington series, but here's why I read it. I read it for the payoff at the very end, where Honor uses some brilliant plan to bring justice to the utter filth that is her enemies. It gives me a primal satisfaction that I rarely find in other book series. I read this series for that satisfaction.

I don't read it for the universe, because it feels like Weber is shoving it into my face against my will with his technical terms and history lesson segues instead of letting me enjoy the universe he's crafted himself.

I don't read it for the characters, because this series only really has two character types. The perfect paragon, that is utterly infallible, is a perfect naval officer, has a dry self deprecating sense of humor (Other characters will always widen their eyes in surprise for an instant before smiling. Always.), can acknowledge and fix personal flaws near instantly, and can apparently scare any opposition with their "level, icy glare", "voice full of contempt", and "sheer force of personality".

The other type of character is the utter scum of humanity with zero redeeming qualities whatsoever that solely exist to have the reader hate them. All the characters he's introducted have turned into a singular mush in my brain because none of them have any standout qualities as individuals.

I certainly don't read it for his prose, because Weber is a poor writer. His characters can have dialogues stretching multiple iBook pages, and he loves to rant on and on about some piece of technology where a short paragraph would suffice.

Now that you know what I read this series for, let's take a look at this book. The payoff and satisfaction I mentioned have been diminishing with each book, but this book not only made it incredibly difficult for me to crawl through to said payoff, the payoff was resolved in only nine iBook pages. Nine. This amounts to what, three pages where she just instantly obliterates her opponent? Whereas earlier books would detail exactly how badly she beat them, this book decided to cut when she finally outsmarted her enemies to MORE. POLITICS.

Don't get me wrong. Politics in a book is fine, but only if it's actually intriguing or has characters with motives that you care about. In this case, I knew from the start what would happen. The characters were so binary in their motives that it was clear from the beginning how things would play out, but it took the entire novel to reach that point. Politics aren't fun when you know the outcome from the onset.

So the book, naturally, forces me to go through chapters and chapters that have nothing but people talking to each other with multiple iBook pages worth of dialogue from each person.

*sigh*

Honor herself isn't even in this book for the most part, and she's the most...interesting character. I say that because she's the main character and has had nine books prior to develop. But after a fantastic character moment, the book decided to toss her into the middle of space and not acknowledge her. Why? This is one of the most glaring instances of writers thinking plot and grandness is more important than characters. As an avid gamer, I've seen the same thing happen to Halo 5, and it frustrates me to no end because it's simply impossible to care about how grand a plot is if everyone inside is soulless.

I feel like I have an obligation to finish this series because I'm so far in. The beginning of the book after has been promising thus far. This book, however, was one of the most frustrating books I've forced myself to sit through in a long time.
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1,516 reviews44 followers
December 5, 2013
Wow! :D War of Honor continues about 3+ years from the previous book in the series Ashes of Victory! :D The political and military landscape has altered in a big way on the Manticorian side following the assassination of the Manticorian Prime Minister and subsequent collapse of the government in the previous book that has left petty small minded and corrupt people in charge of government and led to the Manticorian military dominance to ebb into seriously dangerous territory! :D

The character again are portrayed in a brilliant way with you routing for Honor and her fleet once again! :D The way she takes the Sidemore command and then forces the Admiralty to give her the staff the she wants is brilliantly handled and adds a very cool tone to the book when you see that who Honor has brought on board and this play very well in later events as the old friends await battle :D Having the old gang back as well as some of the newer characters is very well done and during the battle scenes has you on tender toes thinking George R R Martin syndrome may strike at any point! :D

The politics are immensely complicated and brilliantly handled and have a convoluted nature that War of Honor keeps you guessing throughout not knowing who will come out who will on top throughout these events and indeed at the end of the book there is still more political and military shenanigans of this nature still going on! :D The currently in power Manticorian government policy of drawing out the peace talks in order to postpone a general election on the home front has also worsened relationships with the Republic of Haven who have secretly been rebuilding there fleet with more advanced ships and are prepared to use them if necessary adding a overall tension to proceedings! :D This politically and military situation and the ratcheting tensions are brilliantly handled throughout the book which inevitably lead to the results that happen :D

There are hints throughout all the events of potentially more conflict with the Solarian League as well as tensions there ratch up between all the sides involved thought the resolution between the Manticorian's and the Andermani is very cleverly handled and poses potential big future events for all parties for many of the contenders! :D Honor again shows a clever twist on the diplomatic front rather than simply the militaristic solution her rivals accuse her of :D

The battles as ever throughout the book are also very cleverly handled with a high degree of tension throughout :D Knowing characters on either side you are always caught between Honor wanting to win but in a way that doesn't always flush the any character down fiery destruction route either! :D

The portrayal of characters on both sides is very well handled showing that those trying to do good on both sides are sometimes simply unable to halt the course of events! :D While those of a more self motivated inclination find themselves in position where they can no longer stop the course of events that they are largely responsible for! :D White Haven, Emily and Honors relations is also explored more thoroughly throughout the course of the book with some surprising results! :D As ever though the treecats also steal pretty much every scene they are in! ;) :D Lol

Brilliant edge of the seat stuff that will keep you up very late! :D Highly recommended but you do have to start ideally at the beginning of the series or there would be some serious head scratching! ;) :D
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Author 8 books12 followers
July 31, 2010
46 out of 100 for 2010.

Let me warn you, this is a LONG book (over nine hundred pages). Took me more than a week to read, which is a long time for me.

That being said, it's one of my favorite in the series. In some ways, it's a more 'mature' book than earlier ones, because the book shows how good, reasonable people can do unreasonable things (like start wars) when misunderstandings occur, or people put political ideology over the best interests of their nations.

Political leadership has changed on both sides of the war; the Committee for Public Safety, the oligarchy that ruled the People's Republic of Haven for years, has been overthrown and has political leadership that, with a few exceptions, is genuinely committed to the rule of law, democratic elections, and formally ending the war with Manticore.

The Manties, however, have a new government as well, a group of people who, out of power for decades, are determined to push their own agenda through. And, because of vagaries in the Manticorian law, they cannot be voted out of office through a general election in time of war. Although shots have not been fired in the war in half a decade, they refuse to negotiate with the Peeps and formally end the war.

Honor Harrington and White Haven, the Manties most decorated and successful officers, have both been forcibly retired from the Navy and replaced by a group who wants to play political "ball" with the new leadership. After trying, unsuccessfully, to do the kind of character assassination by innuendo that the American Political Right has tried to do on our sitting President, Honor is put back in uniform and sent halfway across the galaxy to what is essentially the "boonies" to look for pirates.

In this novel, the 'enemy' (peeps) are mostly more honorable than the 'good guys,' the Manties, and, as one can guess, Bad Things happen.

A book. Great read. . . very exciting and thoughtful.
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190 reviews1 follower
September 4, 2007
1. I'm on page 114 and no one is on a frikkin' space ship!

2. A month later, I have finally finished this behemoth and I have some observations, not just on 'War of Honor', but on this Honorverse Mr. Weber has created.

The starships and technology are convincing and interesting. The space battles are fascinating and fast-paced, having a consistent interior logic that he follows unerringly.

The milieu is marvelous as well, there's a map (I love maps) and different political bodies born out of a presumably common ancestral culture (earth).

But there's politics. Lots of politics. Lots of inner-circle conversations between allies about enemies and their motivations, both possible and real, and the many many perturbations possible given the facts. It's exhausting and fatally dull. Each conversation is practically a mirror of every other conversation, as though Mr. Weber has one stock character with a thousand names, each saying, "I'm hearing your point, and I agree/disagree with you to a certain degree, but…"

I've waded through it, so far, to get to the space-ship fighting. (Murdered by pirates is good…) But there is no reasonable balance (dramatically speaking) between the political maneuvering and the actual doing of things.

It's likely from the three or four of these I've read that the rest of the Honor Harrington books have the same strengths and weaknesses as the Patrick O'Brien books, lots of talk, some of it about cheese, very little activity.

If Kimball Kinnison had wasted this much time we'd all be speaking Boskonian right now.
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2,705 reviews32 followers
June 27, 2011
This is the 10th book in the Honor Harrington series. It is extremely long (976 pages in paperback) and about 85% of it deals with politics. Those parts of these books have always moved the slowest for me so in some ways this was a bit of a slog, but I have to say Weber does a great job with his world building.

The plot of the book deals with the build-up to another war between Manticore and the Havenites. It is fascinating to watch the story unfold and see how two kingdoms who really don't want to go to war end up there anyway. I can appreciate the writing and development that went into this but I don't really enjoy discussing politics in my everyday life so it was a bit too much for me in this long of a book. Also, there just wasn't enough of Honor in this book for me. I missed her bad-ass presence.

However, it did move things along from the last book and send the story arc in a new direction (or maybe the same old direction but with some new characters in positions of power). While not my favorite in the series, I will definitely continue with it. I only have two more to go.
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December 31, 2022
Sadly, I am officially abandoning this series ... at least until I retire and can dedicate as much time as I'd like to get through it.
I made 2 attempts over 6 years to complete the saga of Honor Harrington all the way through. Each time I burned out, right about when this book takes place. Its now 4 years later, and I still don't see myself completing the series anytime soon.
The most upsetting part is that regardless of how emotionally taxing, and frustrating this series has been, I've enjoyed the majority of what I've read, and I absolutely love Honor as a character.

*Note: I did not finish this particular book which is why I have not included a rating.
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993 reviews9 followers
May 18, 2020
Lots of politics as discussed by other readers. Last chapter contains some action.
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175 reviews
December 30, 2023
This one felt way to political. There was not as much action given the page count as the rest of the series has been.
779 reviews4 followers
July 21, 2023
Each new book in this series seems to be longer than the last, plus some (ebook format) do not have page numbers making it difficult to compare. This one was over 1100 pages. #11 does not have page numbers bit the "location" numbers are similar to #19. Surprisingly, there are very few grammatical, spelling or continuity problems across the series. With this much verbiage, there were still at least two points where an past incident was either not explained at all or not summarized to remind readers of what they read in a (much) earlier episode.

On the plot in #10, there are well described economic, political and social changes on both sides as it relates to the three to five primary characters and the military activity (non combat) during peace talks after the truce. Both sides go through major reshuffling within their governments, generally opposite to the previous administrations. Almost all of the Manty military leaders from the successful campaign in #9 are put on half pay (reserve status), while political executions in the Peep officer corps are stopped. More emphasis is given to some smaller alliance partners - the Andies, Erwhornese, Sollies and Sillies (humorous nicknames), plus more background on the anti slave trade movement called "the Ballroom". It's all rough and tumble. The climax involves the return to military operations, with Honor in a central strategic role as well as a tactical battle commander, the only real winner on the Manty side. It's all good. On to the next episode.
18 reviews
September 15, 2015
What the one- and two-star reviewers wrote is right on point. My husband Jim and I have long enjoyed Mr. Weber's books…then when I got to "At All Costs", something changed. They all became these big, thick books with SO much filler, exposition, back story, talk-talk-talk. Eventually I've learned how to read them; when I get to the filler parts, I just glance at the first or last sentence in a paragraph (sometimes for pages and PAGES) until it gets back to something I want to read. I still enjoyed the stories enough to continue, but it shouldn't have been that way.

Here's my theory. Mr. Weber wrote some really good books, and started to get attention. By his 7th or 8th book, he had a serious following. By book 10 ("War of Honor"), he had become famous with a big fan base. Somewhere around there, a decision was made (by him, or his publisher, or both?) to break off what happened to Torch and Talbot into three separate books each (Torch, which they call the Crown of Slaves Sub-Series: "Crown of Slaves", "Torch of Freedom", "Cauldron of Ghosts"; and Talbot, which they call the Saganami Sub-Series: "Shadow of Saganami", "Storm from the Shadows", "Shadow of Freedom"), while continuing to focusing on Harrington, Manticore and Haven in "At All Costs" and "Mission of Honor". Then pad the HELL out of all of them, thereby selling EIGHT books to tell the story that would have made TWO nice books. Nice marketing ploy; rip-off of his readers.

If you look at the publication dates, Weber stopped writing the Harrington series after "War of Honor" (2002) and wrote the first of each sub-series in 2003 & 2004. Then he returned to Harrington with "At All Costs" (2005) and went back to one each of the two sub-series (2009) before returning again to Harrington with "Mission of Honor" (2010) and "A Rising Thunder" (2012). Then he again concentrated on one each of the two sub-series (2013, 2014). In 2007, he also began the Safehold series, and has been punching those out every year since. He also played around with his young-adult books and returned to his War God series in the meantime, as well.

I understand that, as an artist becomes popular, there is a push to pump out more and more. Also, it's hard to HEAR criticism and recognize the need to edit (if his publisher even mentioned it, or he even HAS a legitimate editor by now) when everyone is telling you you're the best thing since sliced bread. Obviously Mr. Weber's less-discerning reader "fans" still eat up what he's doing, from the ratio of 4- and 5-star reviews, and the fact that his books still sell like hotcakes. But it's a cheat for those of us seeking good writing. I won't even read "Cauldron of Ghosts", given the awful reviews I've read (bad editing, poor writing, padding-padding-padding, one chapter lifted verbatim from another book, pages actually MISSING). I continue to respect Mr. Weber's talent. I no longer respect Mr. Weber…OR his publisher!

Interestingly, I ran across a two-star review of "War of Honor" ("The Kind of Review i Never Expected i'd Write", http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-rev...) written by Mr. Weber's BROTHER, Michael, which review was right on point, and I agree with everything he wrote.
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1,015 reviews28 followers
January 2, 2017


[MAY 2012]

The next installment in the Honor Harrington series, this is, in some ways, the last Honor book -- as in the last of the series that focuses primarily on Harrington, vs. the ever-burgeoning cast.

The threat of war is upon the Kingdom of Manticore, but the current administration is too selfish, dimwitted, and conniving to realize it. Convinced that they have the Republic of Haven cowed by the new weapons unveiled at the end of the previous war, the Conservative/Liberal alliance is too busy frittering away allies, tech advantages, and time to see the harm they are doing, even as they seek to crush their political opponents, the centrist crown loyalists. One of whom is, of course, Honor Harrington.

There's a ton of talk-talk in this book, cutting between Manticore and Haven and different factions therein. There's a ton of soap opera around Honor, leading to her potential "expendable" assignment to Silesia (again) where the Aldermanii are beginning to rattle sabers at the same time ... and where the Havenites plan on striking a potential first blow in a new war, if it happens ...

While the book is long (very long), it's still enjoyable. First off, Weber pulls off the challenge of changing around sympathies for the various parties involved -- Manticore, rather than being the pillar of reason and nobility, has become nasty and petty and arrogant under the administration of the mustache-twirling Bad Politicians; Haven, on the other hand, is now ruled by reasonable, noble, earnest leaders who want nothing but peace but are prepared to fight if need be.

Weber also gives us behind-the-scenes views of how wars (sometimes) start -- not through intent, but by miscommunication, including miscommunication driven by political shenanigans.

Finally, he does a good job of beginning to set up the next series of conflicts beyond the Manticore / Haven axis, by putting in a newly-discovered wormhole from Mantacore to Solarian-fringe space ...

Enjoyable, but not great, in a way that makes the reader feel vaguely guilty for how much they're excited to read the next installment. Certainly not a volume to recommend to a first-time reader, but with enough pay-off to satisfy someone who's plowed through the many, many pages to date.
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961 reviews65 followers
June 6, 2012
It took me awhile to get into this installment in the Honor Harrington series, but once I did, I really got into it.

The leaders of the Republic are, right now, the most interesting characters in the saga. While I don't understand all of Secretary of State's maneuvering, I do understand enough to know that it didn't turn out quite as he planned. I have really enjoyed Weber's development of the "enemy" as 3-dimensional people who could just as easily be the "good guys" in certain circumstances. It's probably too late for this situation to be untangled anyway.

The real villains are the Manticorans who were allied with Baron High Ridge. And it was satisfying, if somewhat fleeting, for them to get their due.

I was also glad to see the relationship between Manticore and the Andermani Empire get more play.

The relationship I didn't much enjoy reading about was the triangle between Honor, Hamish, and Emily. Just doesn't ring true for me.

Next installment coming up...
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Author 10 books96 followers
September 12, 2023
My first re-read of this long novel ever. I gave it 3 stars 5 years ago and I see why. It's definitely a step below the other novels in the series. Out of 900 pages, probably 600 are political issues and character portrayals. Another 100 pages are Honor's personal issues--she's caught in a classic love triangle. Finally, there are 200 pages of military battles in space. That's why I read it.

With more ruthless editing, I could see this as a better novel at 600 pages rather than 900. If he doubled the space battles to 400 pages, then it might get to 4 stars.

But the characters are as gripping as ever. All those pages devoted to them make their motivations, and their morality or lack thereof all the more vivid.

I'd say those invested in the series have to read this. Otherwise, skip it.
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4,827 reviews721 followers
October 4, 2010
There is something about Weber's Honor Harrington that I just can't read it fast enough. I need to find out what's going to happen next. Who's going to be affected. Will a character I adore be killed???

I guess...okay, so I'm a masochist...I also "enjoy"?? the stupid politicians and seeing them get their comeuppance however long it may take! I've always enjoyed the strategy of war and when combined with my love of gadgets...Honor Harrington is a perfect fit!

In War of Honor the tension ratchets back up again...the idiots!! Major issues for Honor and her friends...I know, I know...Honor has major issues each time...this time...whoa
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