July 9, 2024 • 17 mins
George Noory and hypnotherapist Jacob Cooper discuss his childhood near death experience, how it gave him enlightenment about the true nature of the universe, and how angels and spirit guides help us develop more love and improve our mental health and spiritual well being.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now Here's a Highlight. From Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Jacob Cooper speaks in lectures on wisdom and consciousness, offering
meditation and mindfulness seminars to help others find purpose overcoming
fears of life after death. As a clinical social worker,
Reiki Master, certified hypnotherapists specializing in past life regression, Jacob's
(00:25):
uses his extensive personal and professional experience to empower one
soul at a time. A couple of his books include
Life After Breath and The Wisdom of Jacob's Ladder. Jacob,
welcome back. Have you been?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Hey George, I've been terrific. How have you been? It's
great to connect with you again.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You too. A whole year went by pretty darn fast.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And then time is just a funny thing, you know,
It really just flies by. It really does.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
For the benefit of those who did not hear you
a year ago with us, tell us about this near
the experience you had. What happened?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I had a condition called pertessis otherwise known as whipping coughs,
and at just the young age of three years old,
I went to a playground and as a result of
whipping cough I suffocated and all parts of my body
and my brain just were deprived of oxygen and they
just shut down and stopped working. And once my body
(01:26):
and brain began to shut down and my entire physical
breath was taken, there was this whole other breath that
I was able to receive, which I now know is
called the breath of eternity, the breath of creation. And
I just surrendered to this and at a full blown
crossing over experience or neous experience that included the awareness
(01:49):
of angels, spirit guides, past lives, the lives that I
would be doing, awareness of all that there is was
will be in the source of creative life itself, which
many depict does God or the universe, whatever your terminology
for it is. But it was a profound near death
(02:10):
experience and foblone crossing over experience. And with many near
death experiencers, I would probably say the majority are told,
you know, it's not your time, you have more maybe
work to do. This near death experience, there was freedom
as to what I would do, you know, staying on
the other side or continuing my life, and I just
(02:32):
simply asked, you know, who am I, Why am I here?
What am I meant to do in this life, and
all of a sudden I was showing pictures of myself
and images of what I would be doing in this
life and helping others out and sharing this message, and
that to me was the tipping point of why I'm
here today is to share this message that you know,
(02:54):
we do go on, we are eternal, we are infinite,
and life does not stop at death, but it begins anew.
And so I am here. But I love sharing my story.
I speak throughout the world, and you know, it's it's
a profound experience that I've been able to really find
(03:15):
meaning and beauty behind it, although for a while it's
certainly felt like more of a burden than a blessing.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Really, And at that young age, how did you remember
all this, Jacob?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
There's a plus, There's a plusor of avenues that I
really pinpoint as to that's the why I remember this.
But the first thing is certainly trauma. You know, I
work in the mental health field now, and I could
say how strong an imprint trauma can have. I mean,
for instance, you know there's the clients that I and
(03:50):
colleagues have worked with where you know, we've asked you know,
even young kids to draw pictures of a traumatic event
and that's very specific what happened to them. And you know,
this has happened to me in other colleagues where we've
lost the picture and we just kind of got upset, like,
oh my god, I can't find this picture. And then
(04:12):
the client at a young age and would be able
to depict exactly what happened to them when we've been
able to find that picture. And the point I'm trying
to make is trauma has an undeniable imprint on the
brain and there's a memory. There's also a disassociative component,
which is protective mechanism that people have where they push
(04:32):
away that trauma. But even many your death experiencers who
might forget their near death experience, we'll see people like
myself as a hypno therapist and be able to ask
full recollection. So I think trauma was a gift behind
the ability to rememb combined with the fact that this
was something that went far beyond my brain my body,
(04:55):
and this is a memory really stored within deeper than
my subconscious mind. So there's a lot of avenues to
point to it, but certainly something that's never left with
me since that day in September of nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
It is truly remarkable that you kept this all these years,
this knowledge.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's well. It was certainly what led to
a very complex childhood. I remember very little about my childhood,
but coming back to my preschool, I just remembered this
liver of light that was going through my brain, which
(05:40):
new death experienced researchers have really had congruencies what I
experience to point that the brain is not the producer
of life, but rather just the filter of it. And
when my brain, you know, shut down, that's when the
proverbial saying that says, you know, when my brain snapped
in half, that's when God came in. And you know,
(06:01):
that literally happened to me. But my brain was very
much changed. And this is a TBI that I experienced.
But I just experienced the liver of light, and from
this liver of light, I had premonitions, hiding intuitions, I
had interdimensional communication. But the hard part was and the
isolating part was I learned very quickly that this was
(06:22):
foreign to people around me, and so I kept it
quite close to me, which is very common as a
lot of near death experiencers where they'll have something so
sacred or they'll know that it's something that others won't
understand around themselves, so they'll keep it to themselves, rather
than having others put down their experience, judge or experience
(06:45):
to when they shut down their own experience themselves. So
I kept it very very much close to myself for
nearly two decades. It was when the first time I
really started to become public with the near death experience.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Would you say, Jacob, that this near death experience was
the catalyst for where you are today?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It not, as not only is just the catalyst, but
it is my everything. You know, when I think of
my new death experience, I think of just this ultimate
gift that I have, and it was a gift that
really showed me who we are while we're here. But
more importantly, I was able to be given a second
(07:29):
chance of life in this body. And so for myself
and my work, you know, I see people who feel
like they don't want to live anymore, or metaphorically they
feel dead inside. And so my work in the mental
health field and hypnosis as a healer, it's to try
to get people to really tap into their own life
(07:51):
force when they're feeling disconnected, and to give that back
to other people and to empower others. And so given
a gift, you could hold on to it. You know,
there's givers and takers. But to me, I believe in
giving back what a big, beautiful gift of life that
I was given, and to allow people to remember that
(08:13):
it is a gift to be here in this body
and this life. Altho were on the surface, it could
certainly feel quite the opposite during many on different points
of their own journey.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
What do you remember, Jacob, in addition to what you've
just said about this near death experience, were there angels involved,
spirit guides, helpers, relatives who had passed on.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
That you might know, Yes, yes, and yes absolutely. I
you know, we live with a box of reality that
we see as such. And you know when I had
my near death experience, what really most step to me
while I was experiencing it was just how much we
(09:00):
forget is around us at all times on this journey.
And when I was able to see my two spirit
guides with me during my new Gud's experiences, I call
them the Guides, it was a profound reunion and I
just remembered, My God, I couldn't believe that I forgot
all the beauty that was accompanying me and all of us,
(09:21):
all of our viewers here on this journey. And so
I know I'll say this throughout the course of our conversation, probably,
but one major takeaway that, if anything else I'd like
viewers to remember, is there is so much around us
at all times that maybe we may not be aware
of the physical eye at all times, but there is
(09:44):
so much around us. But the spirit guides to me
are there with us before we get here, go there
with us through every part of our lifetime, and they
are just the innermost part of ourselves as we know it.
They know everything about ourselves at our deepest core. But
(10:05):
when I saw the guides, the analogy often has is,
you know, imagine you had the most beautiful, you know,
Hollywood celebrity crush, and you just think that that person
is thousands of miles away, living in some ivory tower
far away from you that you can never access. Now,
imagine that by an infinite amount, but imagine that feeling
(10:28):
is drawn towards you. So in other words, the admiration,
the respect, the love, the infactuation, that you have with
that being, that person that is directed towards you. And
that's how our guides view us. They see us in
such a level of love and beauty that we cannot
(10:50):
ever really truly comprehend. And so the guides see us
in such a different way than many times the judgments
and the small versions that we hold of ours else.
But the angels were floating literally right in front of
me when my body was on the ground, lifeless and
irresponsive to people who went to me to the playground
(11:11):
on that day, and I just saw very young, youthful
angels that were floating right in front of me. I
could hear their sounds, I could see colors. But this
goes beyond anything comparative to this reality, you know, George,
Your death experiencers often point to the fact that we
have nothing to compare the other side to, just in
(11:34):
terms of a perspective of color. For instance, the colors
that we have in our realm are really colors that
are originated from the spectrum of the sun, and when
you're on the other side, you're in a different realm,
and so the colors over there aren't don't have a
limit of bandwidth from the colors of the sun, they
(11:56):
go further deeper, and so the colors, you know, you
can't described in this reality because they have such a
depth and beauty that go beyond anything of this reality.
But yes, angels are around us at all times, sending healing,
sending love, and that's what I experienced. And they had
no different than the spirit guides. The angels had no
(12:19):
distinct characteristics. They were very uniformal. They were just there
to send healing, to send love, to send protection. And
they're around us at all times, as well as my own,
as you mentioned, soul family on the other side, which
are members that we are connected to within this life
(12:40):
and beyond. And it's almost kind of like a theater
of life where we have different roles and different acts
to play, but we're connected to a similar cru set
throughout different incarnations. And that's a fascinating subject in itself,
but gues to all those questions.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
These angels there to comfort you, Jacob. I mean, you
were just a little guy when you went down. I
would assume you were scared for a while.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, you know, Georgia, it was the most What I
would say is I've never seen a bigger pendulum of
swing of emotions from you know, and I don't know
if you've experienced this there any viewers have experienced how
scary it is to lose your breath, you know, and
unless you're on a ventilator, I mean, the breath keeps
(13:31):
us going, and it's.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Got to be a horrible feeling.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
It was beyond traumatizing. I mean, the analogy that I
often have is imagine you're drowning and there's nothing to
hold on to, and you just keep on thinking deeper
and deeper, and there's nothing you can do. And so
you know, what did I do? Instead of I was
struggling against this, I was resisting against this, but as
(13:56):
we know, with all walks of life, what we resist persist,
and so what I did was I just completely surrendered
to what was happening. I recognized I had no control,
and once I surrendered, I really was able to tap
into this ultimate power that we're all connected to, this
infinite breath, this breath that goes beyond our own human breath.
(14:20):
And I've learned since you know, my own religion, Judaism,
the word for spirit is translates to ruach, which means
the wind or the breath of God and that is
our creative force. And so for viewers who are might
be struggling and certainly alcoholics anonymous you know, you know
is congruence with this, But there is a great power
(14:43):
of simply surrendering to the power that we all have
inside of us and to stop the struggle recognize its
surrendering is not a form of giving up, but a
form of giving in to the deep inner power and
divine spark that we all have. But yes, the angels
are simply there to comfort not only me, but we.
(15:07):
And this is certainly time that I hope to get into,
which is the me consciousness versus the we consciousness, and
different experiences in my life that have given me first
and evidential awareness that we are all not just the me,
but we are much connected to a much greater reality
(15:29):
that involves the we.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Jake up in your near death experience, do you witness
others who have had near death experiences? Are they there
next to you?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
That's a great question. I've heard other near death experiencers
that have mentioned this. Uh to answer question, I didn't experience.
I didn't have any other experiences that I that I
was aware of at the moment certainly, you know, other
near death experiences have had a pivotal impact in my
(16:01):
life and has given me the strength and courage to
become public with my message. Otherwise I've been quite ostracized.
But no, I didn't. But what I did have was
premonitions about my near death experience. And I just remember
when I did have my near death experience, it just
(16:22):
felt like deja vous, as if I've seen this before,
and there was nothing I can do to stop what
was to come. And so I write in my book
that I had, you know, clear recollections of dreams the
nights before of my ende of what was to come.
But in terms of seeing the other near death experiencers
when I had my ENDE, that didn't happen. Have you
(16:46):
heard of such a phenomenon, George before, because I believe
I have where people have had ner death experiences and
they've seen others ye have had theirs, which is just phenomena.
That is phenomenon. I don't know if you know of
anyone specific, but that that's sploish my mind.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Jacob Cooper speaks in lectures on wisdom and consciousness, offering
meditation and mindfulness seminars to help others find purpose overcoming
fears of life after death. As a clinical social worker,
Reiki Master, certified hypnotherapists specializing in past life regression, Jacob's
(00:25):
uses his extensive personal and professional experience to empower one
soul at a time. A couple of his books include
Life After Breath and The Wisdom of Jacob's Ladder. Jacob,
welcome back. Have you been?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Hey George, I've been terrific. How have you been? It's
great to connect with you again.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You too. A whole year went by pretty darn fast.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And then time is just a funny thing, you know,
It really just flies by. It really does.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
For the benefit of those who did not hear you
a year ago with us, tell us about this near
the experience you had. What happened?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I had a condition called pertessis otherwise known as whipping coughs,
and at just the young age of three years old,
I went to a playground and as a result of
whipping cough I suffocated and all parts of my body
and my brain just were deprived of oxygen and they
just shut down and stopped working. And once my body
(01:26):
and brain began to shut down and my entire physical
breath was taken, there was this whole other breath that
I was able to receive, which I now know is
called the breath of eternity, the breath of creation. And
I just surrendered to this and at a full blown
crossing over experience or neous experience that included the awareness
(01:49):
of angels, spirit guides, past lives, the lives that I
would be doing, awareness of all that there is was
will be in the source of creative life itself, which
many depict does God or the universe, whatever your terminology
for it is. But it was a profound near death
(02:10):
experience and foblone crossing over experience. And with many near
death experiencers, I would probably say the majority are told,
you know, it's not your time, you have more maybe
work to do. This near death experience, there was freedom
as to what I would do, you know, staying on
the other side or continuing my life, and I just
(02:32):
simply asked, you know, who am I, Why am I here?
What am I meant to do in this life, and
all of a sudden I was showing pictures of myself
and images of what I would be doing in this
life and helping others out and sharing this message, and
that to me was the tipping point of why I'm
here today is to share this message that you know,
(02:54):
we do go on, we are eternal, we are infinite,
and life does not stop at death, but it begins anew.
And so I am here. But I love sharing my story.
I speak throughout the world, and you know, it's it's
a profound experience that I've been able to really find
(03:15):
meaning and beauty behind it, although for a while it's
certainly felt like more of a burden than a blessing.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Really, And at that young age, how did you remember
all this, Jacob?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
There's a plus, There's a plusor of avenues that I
really pinpoint as to that's the why I remember this.
But the first thing is certainly trauma. You know, I
work in the mental health field now, and I could
say how strong an imprint trauma can have. I mean,
for instance, you know there's the clients that I and
(03:50):
colleagues have worked with where you know, we've asked you know,
even young kids to draw pictures of a traumatic event
and that's very specific what happened to them. And you know,
this has happened to me in other colleagues where we've
lost the picture and we just kind of got upset, like,
oh my god, I can't find this picture. And then
(04:12):
the client at a young age and would be able
to depict exactly what happened to them when we've been
able to find that picture. And the point I'm trying
to make is trauma has an undeniable imprint on the
brain and there's a memory. There's also a disassociative component,
which is protective mechanism that people have where they push
(04:32):
away that trauma. But even many your death experiencers who
might forget their near death experience, we'll see people like
myself as a hypno therapist and be able to ask
full recollection. So I think trauma was a gift behind
the ability to rememb combined with the fact that this
was something that went far beyond my brain my body,
(04:55):
and this is a memory really stored within deeper than
my subconscious mind. So there's a lot of avenues to
point to it, but certainly something that's never left with
me since that day in September of nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
It is truly remarkable that you kept this all these years,
this knowledge.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's well. It was certainly what led to
a very complex childhood. I remember very little about my childhood,
but coming back to my preschool, I just remembered this
liver of light that was going through my brain, which
(05:40):
new death experienced researchers have really had congruencies what I
experience to point that the brain is not the producer
of life, but rather just the filter of it. And
when my brain, you know, shut down, that's when the
proverbial saying that says, you know, when my brain snapped
in half, that's when God came in. And you know,
(06:01):
that literally happened to me. But my brain was very
much changed. And this is a TBI that I experienced.
But I just experienced the liver of light, and from
this liver of light, I had premonitions, hiding intuitions, I
had interdimensional communication. But the hard part was and the
isolating part was I learned very quickly that this was
(06:22):
foreign to people around me, and so I kept it
quite close to me, which is very common as a
lot of near death experiencers where they'll have something so
sacred or they'll know that it's something that others won't
understand around themselves, so they'll keep it to themselves, rather
than having others put down their experience, judge or experience
(06:45):
to when they shut down their own experience themselves. So
I kept it very very much close to myself for
nearly two decades. It was when the first time I
really started to become public with the near death experience.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Would you say, Jacob, that this near death experience was
the catalyst for where you are today?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
It not, as not only is just the catalyst, but
it is my everything. You know, when I think of
my new death experience, I think of just this ultimate
gift that I have, and it was a gift that
really showed me who we are while we're here. But
more importantly, I was able to be given a second
(07:29):
chance of life in this body. And so for myself
and my work, you know, I see people who feel
like they don't want to live anymore, or metaphorically they
feel dead inside. And so my work in the mental
health field and hypnosis as a healer, it's to try
to get people to really tap into their own life
(07:51):
force when they're feeling disconnected, and to give that back
to other people and to empower others. And so given
a gift, you could hold on to it. You know,
there's givers and takers. But to me, I believe in
giving back what a big, beautiful gift of life that
I was given, and to allow people to remember that
(08:13):
it is a gift to be here in this body
and this life. Altho were on the surface, it could
certainly feel quite the opposite during many on different points
of their own journey.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
What do you remember, Jacob, in addition to what you've
just said about this near death experience, were there angels involved,
spirit guides, helpers, relatives who had passed on.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
That you might know, Yes, yes, and yes absolutely. I
you know, we live with a box of reality that
we see as such. And you know when I had
my near death experience, what really most step to me
while I was experiencing it was just how much we
(09:00):
forget is around us at all times on this journey.
And when I was able to see my two spirit
guides with me during my new Gud's experiences, I call
them the Guides, it was a profound reunion and I
just remembered, My God, I couldn't believe that I forgot
all the beauty that was accompanying me and all of us,
(09:21):
all of our viewers here on this journey. And so
I know I'll say this throughout the course of our conversation, probably,
but one major takeaway that, if anything else I'd like
viewers to remember, is there is so much around us
at all times that maybe we may not be aware
of the physical eye at all times, but there is
(09:44):
so much around us. But the spirit guides to me
are there with us before we get here, go there
with us through every part of our lifetime, and they
are just the innermost part of ourselves as we know it.
They know everything about ourselves at our deepest core. But
(10:05):
when I saw the guides, the analogy often has is,
you know, imagine you had the most beautiful, you know,
Hollywood celebrity crush, and you just think that that person
is thousands of miles away, living in some ivory tower
far away from you that you can never access. Now,
imagine that by an infinite amount, but imagine that feeling
(10:28):
is drawn towards you. So in other words, the admiration,
the respect, the love, the infactuation, that you have with
that being, that person that is directed towards you. And
that's how our guides view us. They see us in
such a level of love and beauty that we cannot
(10:50):
ever really truly comprehend. And so the guides see us
in such a different way than many times the judgments
and the small versions that we hold of ours else.
But the angels were floating literally right in front of
me when my body was on the ground, lifeless and
irresponsive to people who went to me to the playground
(11:11):
on that day, and I just saw very young, youthful
angels that were floating right in front of me. I
could hear their sounds, I could see colors. But this
goes beyond anything comparative to this reality, you know, George,
Your death experiencers often point to the fact that we
have nothing to compare the other side to, just in
(11:34):
terms of a perspective of color. For instance, the colors
that we have in our realm are really colors that
are originated from the spectrum of the sun, and when
you're on the other side, you're in a different realm,
and so the colors over there aren't don't have a
limit of bandwidth from the colors of the sun, they
(11:56):
go further deeper, and so the colors, you know, you
can't described in this reality because they have such a
depth and beauty that go beyond anything of this reality.
But yes, angels are around us at all times, sending healing,
sending love, and that's what I experienced. And they had
no different than the spirit guides. The angels had no
(12:19):
distinct characteristics. They were very uniformal. They were just there
to send healing, to send love, to send protection. And
they're around us at all times, as well as my own,
as you mentioned, soul family on the other side, which
are members that we are connected to within this life
(12:40):
and beyond. And it's almost kind of like a theater
of life where we have different roles and different acts
to play, but we're connected to a similar cru set
throughout different incarnations. And that's a fascinating subject in itself,
but gues to all those questions.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
These angels there to comfort you, Jacob. I mean, you
were just a little guy when you went down. I
would assume you were scared for a while.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, you know, Georgia, it was the most What I
would say is I've never seen a bigger pendulum of
swing of emotions from you know, and I don't know
if you've experienced this there any viewers have experienced how
scary it is to lose your breath, you know, and
unless you're on a ventilator, I mean, the breath keeps
(13:31):
us going, and it's.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Got to be a horrible feeling.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
It was beyond traumatizing. I mean, the analogy that I
often have is imagine you're drowning and there's nothing to
hold on to, and you just keep on thinking deeper
and deeper, and there's nothing you can do. And so
you know, what did I do? Instead of I was
struggling against this, I was resisting against this, but as
(13:56):
we know, with all walks of life, what we resist persist,
and so what I did was I just completely surrendered
to what was happening. I recognized I had no control,
and once I surrendered, I really was able to tap
into this ultimate power that we're all connected to, this
infinite breath, this breath that goes beyond our own human breath.
(14:20):
And I've learned since you know, my own religion, Judaism,
the word for spirit is translates to ruach, which means
the wind or the breath of God and that is
our creative force. And so for viewers who are might
be struggling and certainly alcoholics anonymous you know, you know
is congruence with this, But there is a great power
(14:43):
of simply surrendering to the power that we all have
inside of us and to stop the struggle recognize its
surrendering is not a form of giving up, but a
form of giving in to the deep inner power and
divine spark that we all have. But yes, the angels
are simply there to comfort not only me, but we.
(15:07):
And this is certainly time that I hope to get into,
which is the me consciousness versus the we consciousness, and
different experiences in my life that have given me first
and evidential awareness that we are all not just the me,
but we are much connected to a much greater reality
(15:29):
that involves the we.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Jake up in your near death experience, do you witness
others who have had near death experiences? Are they there
next to you?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
That's a great question. I've heard other near death experiencers
that have mentioned this. Uh to answer question, I didn't experience.
I didn't have any other experiences that I that I
was aware of at the moment certainly, you know, other
near death experiences have had a pivotal impact in my
(16:01):
life and has given me the strength and courage to
become public with my message. Otherwise I've been quite ostracized.
But no, I didn't. But what I did have was
premonitions about my near death experience. And I just remember
when I did have my near death experience, it just
(16:22):
felt like deja vous, as if I've seen this before,
and there was nothing I can do to stop what
was to come. And so I write in my book
that I had, you know, clear recollections of dreams the
nights before of my ende of what was to come.
But in terms of seeing the other near death experiencers
when I had my ENDE, that didn't happen. Have you
(16:46):
heard of such a phenomenon, George before, because I believe
I have where people have had ner death experiences and
they've seen others ye have had theirs, which is just phenomena.
That is phenomenon. I don't know if you know of
anyone specific, but that that's sploish my mind.
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