“My Fourth Time on Las Cultch” (w/ Julio Torres)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Look mare, Oh, I see you my own bone. Look
over there is that culture. Yes, wow, lost culture ding dung.
Lost culture is calling take any breath, exhale, inhale, excel.
It's obviously you first have to inhale the exhale. That's
actually really culture number eight. You first have hail to.

(00:26):
Breathing is really fundament. Breathing has really.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Saved my ass in recent times. And I feel like
I need to really dig into this. I am like
out of breath, I'm like tight in the chest.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Why oh, I'm so happy you're saying this public leap
because now we can all watch it. Because you can't
trust someone to watch their own health. We all need
eyes on Boone Yang's chest and lungs. Please.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Hey, my chest is down here and it is really
tight and tense, and I just need to like get
it loosened up, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
And this is really hot what you're doing. Bowen's rubbing
his titters and sort of being very orgasmic about this.
Do you actually feel lately that you're breathing and like
stuff is different.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, something's going on. The body keeps the score and
no it's not this. Our guest is making a little
cigarette motion. It's not that I am in Canada and
maybe that has something to do with it. Although I'm
at the same sea level, I'm at the same No,
it's this, most of my life is still the same.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
It's not that you now what I'm going to say
right now, which is such a wife thing to say,
as I'm going to say this to our guests and
to everyone listening. Well, he knows how I feel about
the cigarettes. The cigarettes are not really figuring in anymore.
Can I say something? There was a deal that we
made years ago, and I periodically bring this up because
it is important and it is sort of indicative of

(01:56):
you not holding up an end of a bargain, which
is that when I started therapy, you were going to
stop smoking. That was the But then guess what what
COVID happened. Everything changed, COVID as an excuse, COVID happened,
and now all bets are off. Is that was that

(02:16):
in the fine print of the verbal agreement that deal? Well,
I'll just say for my health, therapy has been amazing,
and I think not smoking would help you feel less
like your chest was locked up and you couldn't breathe.
That's just me, though, how did this?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
I just wanted to remark on how I've been breathing.
I've been more aware of my breathing lately, and all
of a sudden, and.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
All of a sudden, it became antagonistic. And obviously your
problem is due to stress. So why am I piling on?
You know what I mean? It's okay, you know what
this is why it can't just be me watching this.
It has to be all of us, the community. We
have to watch on one young self because I clearly
can't be trusted. We have to watch each other. This
is a mutual weight network. At the end of the day,
we were speaking of watching. We were saying, just before

(02:56):
we got on with our guests, we were talking about
Disney for a hot sec did you see this? For
you did it? But did you see this? Are you
aware of the four hour video review of the Star
Wars Hotel that this girl posted where it's just the
most thorough dragging of the Star Wars hotel from every
single hated it. So she basically was like, she's this girl.

(03:17):
Her name is Jenny Nicholson. She's like a YouTube video
blogger of blogger, I guess, and she her thing is
niche fandoms, theme parks and immersive experiences. That's like what
she that's her whole bag, and the three of those
converge at Disney. And also she's like a Star Wars freak.
She's like really super smart and adorable and like she

(03:38):
like has a big following, and she's very very, very
detailed and clear about her experience at the Star Wars hotel,
which she said cost over six thousand dollars for two people.
It was a two night hotel stay. It was immersive,
and you got to watch it on like one point
seventy five or times two speed because it is so thrilling,
like get on a StairMaster, open up and you will

(04:01):
be walking at a pace you've never walked before. Like
it is a thrilling watch. I never thought it would be.
People were sending me this like have you seen this yet,
and I was like, listen, I'm not this far gone
and then cut to me like soaking in all of it.
It was a blow by blow dragging of this experience
which is now closed by the way.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
This is giving me like I didn't know my husband
TikTok or the right, Like I didn't know my husband
well this girl is.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Nominated for a Cultural Award for this show. But anyway,
it was just so unreal to think about just how
crazy it is, like how far gone it is, Like
because she was saying, like, you know, a lot of
people might think like it's like the super rich people
that are buying tickets to this like actually know her
experience is. It was a lot of middle class people

(04:50):
who clearly had splurged on this vacation because they thought
Disney is you know, when you say the word Disney,
you think of this like experience of like luxury and excellence,
and like they're this brand, like you're gonna get something
out of But it fools middle class people because you
get there and it's like, all right, you're cooped up
in a hotel with no windows. It is the hotel

(05:12):
rooms were size of boxes, and it's like an immersive
experience in that like there's like characters walking around, but
like none of the things are really playable. She just
it's a really worth while watching it. I sat there
with my mouth open. I was like, this is so crazy.
I can't wait. Can I ask an insane question? Yeah?
Was I supposed to be talking? This is what your

(05:33):
third fourth time on the podcast. I know, wait, how
does it wait?

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Like you introduced me and then I talked, So the
way it works is, yeah, that's okay how it works. Okay,
I'm sorry, Pretend I didn't do that. Sit tight for
like ninety more seconds.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, thought, yeah, I will talk later, Okay, okay, Yeah,
that thing about you talking is going to come in
a major way in a second. Now, whose voice was that?
I don't know, problem voice, Fantasma.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
This is a very good friend, a very special guest,
a true true artist, pioneer, a pioneer you might know
his lovely work, most recently in his directorial debut, Problemista.
I wanted to give it the title my first movie.
And I think a filmmaker has called her first movie

(06:21):
my first Oh no, it's a musician is calling her
first album my first album or.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Something that doesn't work as well for me. I think
my first movie is so much more, so much bigger,
you know what I mean? And that's why the title
of episode so far for this is my fourth episode
of Lost Culture.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
My fourth episode of Lost Culture. But I mean, I mean,
don't you can't you picture like two women at a
nail salon and then one of them goes, what are
we doing tonight? We're gonna go see my first movie.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
You know, so many different ways. But when you were read,
think in there, why do I really want to take
your advice? I think it wasn't him. I think it
was the twenty four, the suits at A twenty four.
Blame the suits, is what I always say. I think
about that with the Disney Wars, Disney World Star Wars,
Disney Roo, Blame the Wars. Disney's starting girl, iiger come

(07:18):
at us now.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
He has a new show coming out on HBO called
is it HBO or Max? I guess it's Max?

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Right? No, no, no, not yet, hold on, hold on,
you know what, well, let him tell us where it is. No, no, no,
it is coming out on He's having to look it up.
It's coming out on HBO June seven, HBO Prestige. Come on,
it's garbage.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
No, of course, garbage on Max. This is fantasmis a
really star studded cast. It'll be I can't wait to
see it. I have a shirt that says fantasmis Hadad's Trucks,
New Jersey, and it is one of my favorite shirts.
I love that shirt. Thank you fantastics for giving me.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
That not your first shirt but your favorite shirt. No, no, no,
Should we bring him in so we get some of
that famous talking for sure? All right, here we go. Everyone, welcome.
He's in the studio. Hey, I just got here. You've arrived.
Can I say in a Broadway? You have arrived in

(08:23):
a Broadway? Oh? Oh in a Broadway? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
not in a Broadway like I you haven't stopped the board.
I have certainly not arrived in Broadway, but in a
broad sense. Yeah wow. Any interest in Broadway? No, in
performing in broad Broadway? No, in performing in Broadway. No,
that sounds so difficult. Like would you would either of

(08:46):
you ever like fully be on a play? Yeah? Do
you do it? I would do it? I would you
would do it? Okay, Wow, Okay, I think it would.
It would really depend on on what it was on
the text. I've seen some one with like Solo Show
was like Jody Comer was in this play last year
on probably called Prima Facie, which is just her doing
a continuous, long monologue and like the subject matter was

(09:10):
really intense and she was very physical in it and
it was just her and she never leaves the stage.
And I was just like, I don't understand that. But
in a way where I could walk in and like
say a little as we call him the best zinger
and then leave, I would I would love it. I'd
love to do money. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, we are actively seeking zinger parts. If there are
any singer parts in Lempika, Matt Rodgers will take it.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Now, like let's say you, let's say with each of us,
and really, let's just say, for the purposes of this
thought exercise, you are on a Broadway show and the
three of us are on different Broadway shows, or maybe
it's the same one, it doesn't matter, but each of
us just have to come in twice per act and
do our basinga, do our bazinga, and then walk out. Right,
what are we doing in the dressing room? How are
we passing the time? Are we like being so disciplined?

(10:02):
Are we playing video games? Are we reading?

Speaker 3 (10:05):
I mean, you know that it would start with, oh,
I'm going to write the thing in the dressing room
because I actually like have like four hours to kill
I'm going to write I'm gonna like do this, and
then you just end up scrolling on your phone.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Damn. I wouldn't be on a show. I would write
a show.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
But the idea of like being there every night night
seeing now like our friends do it and Oh Mary,
I'm like, whoa, that looks so hard.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
It's a lot. I think that I would be pacing
and socializing, which would be even more tiring, because I know,
socializing with who if you're like with that stage, like
like anyone with the audience. No, certainly not, because they're
going to go outside and be like, hey, hey, what
do you think of the play? I'm about to be in?

(10:58):
It donna get really good. It's gonna get really good.
It's gonna get really good once I come on. No,
but that's how I tend to like do my downtime.
But bo, when I think you would really literally be
reading and laying on your back.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, I'd be reading and land on my back. But
with our friends who are doing Oh Mary, do you
see firsthand what and pat it's having on their social lives,
because that's the thing that we the three of us,
kind of care about. I think I think, can I
go out?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
But can I go out? Okay, I'll take it, but
can I go out? Can I go to three dollar Bill?
Can I go to three dollar Bill on a Wednesday,
Animal for the first time.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Can I go to Animal for the seventh time today?

Speaker 1 (11:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
I think Cole does the play and then goes home
and recharges as the sense that I get, yes, But
obviously Cole is carrying the show, and James becomes very disciplined,
very like school night, like right, go home to care
and then like errands in the morning, and then like play.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
How does he feel about going into the summer on
Broadway literally on Broadway, literally on Broadway? But I know
he I know that boy loves his summer.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
That boy loves his summer, but he loves working getting
to do his work. More so, he did not mourn
the lack of free time for a second.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I don't think that's good. That's perfect. Yeah, I mean
twelve weeks only you're gonna have a summer, right, I mean,
what what is that? Is that the last? But it's
like right in that right in the in the peak
of summer. You know what, though? It can I say something,
It's not a fucking about him, Okay, it's about the
people in the audience getting to it's about It's not
about him. It's about the it's about. It's about the

(12:51):
fans that traveled internationally to see. Oh, Mary, so I
don't want to hear it about jams.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
I mean that's Broadway, right, people do travel to for this. Oh,
that's like usually this show.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, this is international appeal, it's an international figure, Mary Todd.
I know they'll learn about American history. They do exactly,
So why so, James? But you know what this is pathetic.
I don't know if you knew you would you would
come on here and that we'd be in a fight
with James. Wait, but I just said that he didn't
care though.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
No, it's not roll back to putting words in my mouth.
You are putting words in my mouth typical you.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
No one ever said, I'm like the wall is red
and you're like, whoa, why is it blue? Because it's
color blind? I'm colorblind? Honey. Wait, this always comes up.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I feel like I always like I feel like I'm
always microaggressing on your color blindness.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Wait, do you want to know where I just pictured you?
And I laughed a lot. Wait to myself just now,
I think that I would be so upset. I would
be so upset the entire time.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Things that are like hyper curated and hyper regimented when
they want you to have like a very immercific paint
by numbers or immersive experience. I it's I'm so allergic
to it. I just took okay, wait, I just took
a every now and then, Okay, every now and then

(14:27):
I will take a group fitness class of some sort
because I like that there's a time where I have
to go do it, and I know when it ends,
and I'm not going to spend the whole day thinking
I'll go work.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Out in an hour and then another and then you
know what I mean, is this.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Generally group fitness classes? Are you talking about one specific group.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Talking about one specific group class? Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
And I felt like I was scolded for not having
enough energy.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
That's probably true.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I felt like, I mean, not scolded, but definitely like
the teacher said, guys, the point of group fitness is
to feed off of each other's energy.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Hmmm, and then looked at me.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Oh, and then said something that I thought was so telling.
She like accidentally opened a window into her psyche. She said,
you can make noise, heer, I'm not your mother or
your wife. Oh I see okay it, but see, I
think another reason you go there is to observe, to observe,

(15:40):
you like observing.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
I do love observing. I do love observing. So then
you being scholded, you're saying every I wasn't scolded. That's
a big word. But it was like this motivation that
feels aggressive, and it takes you a second because this
motivation that feels aggressive. Yeah, you're like, I'm definitely gonna
do what you said, but like also it's just like
mm hmmm mm.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
But I'm gonna do what you said, but you can't
command me to feel any sort of way about it.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I turn this thing up, but I'm not gonna my
energy might still be bad. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
And okay, so you know what I also hate when
this negative energy I'm bringing into this beautiful bock.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
No, it's perfect. Well, after this, you're going to say
something you love. Okay, yeah, after this, I'm going to
say something animal, animal to a bar, animal, great drinks,
hot guys. Perfect me say.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
No, I don't like it when, like you know, when
like a friend makes a meal. First of all, dinners
in general, don't invite your dinners. Don't let me eat
alone in peace when a friend makes a meal and
then there's that very performative like, oh wow, that that

(16:57):
was really great, and then everyone that goes, oh yeah
that was really yum. Yeah yeah, oh thanks thanks, Yeah
that was great. That was really ye me thanks, thanks,
And it's like it just feels so like performative because
then it's like then I chime in and I'm like, yeah,
thank you, that was so great, but it's like I
didn't get to say it at my own time, right, Oh,

(17:17):
It's it's sort of like okay, and now is the
part where we express great.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
It's like it's so like systemized. You feel there's no
way for you to be genuine yeah about the way
in which you've enjoyed the meal and the degree to
which you have enjoyed it. Once other people have sort
of started the.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Sty like, now is the moment when you do it.
It's like a standing ovation exactly exactly. But are you
Are you a fan of those? How do you feel
about standing ovations?

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I'm not. I'm not a fan.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
I don't think I've seen you ever stand for a
standing ovation. And that's okay, what's the uh the State
of the Union address? If you zoom in I'm there sitting.
Oh yeah, that's true. I stand, I stand, I rise.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
You rise.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
But I see when you were talking about dinner, I
thought you were going to bring up how someone makes dinner, yeah,
and then sets it down, everyone eats it and everyone.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Goes, oh, that was really good. That was really good.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
And then what I thought you were going to say
that annoyed you and the performance was.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
What's in it? Or how did you make it? I
don't want to know. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
No, it's not it's about the person who made the dinner,
and I do this. I'm guilty of this. I go, oh,
that's it's fine. I kind of I didn't if I
didn't have this agreed. I didn't really you know, like
like when you start to apologize. Oh, but that's you
in general, though, that's you in general. You don't like compliments.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
But is that not a performance? Oh it is a performance? Oh? Yes, performance. Yeah,
that's why I'm with you. Like I love to go
out to dinner with a bunch of people. I think
that's great because it's like it's not we can all agree.
Oh that was so good, Like it's not about us.
No one's like put on the spot at that moment. Yeah. Also,
the thing with dinner parties is I don't know how
to say this. No matter who you are, your food

(18:58):
is not as good as a restaurant's food. Like your food,
no matter who you are, if you're cooking the food
at your house, it wasn't as good as a restaurant.
You're not a restaurant. You're not a restaurant, so you'll
never be a restaurant because if you are trying to
be a restaurant, you made this once today, yeah, one

(19:18):
hundred percent. And also it's like I could tell you
only made it once today. At a restaurant, they're making
these things upwards of nine, ten, eleven, twelve times. Yeah,
it's time to get it right. To get it right
isn't tried and true? Yeah? Oh so not for nothing.
I go to your house, like the silverware is it clean? Oh? Stop?

(19:39):
At what restaurant? I don't trust other people's homes and cooking.
And if I have to do that, it's like know
that I'm not being genuine when I'm like enthusiastic about it,
that's me doing my classic Matt Rogers performance of enthusiasm. Wow,
because I'm not where else do you perform enthusiasm everywhere
I go? Everywhere I go? I'm like, and what is

(20:01):
the emotion you wish you could showcase? Surely? Oh, I'm
just kidding. I'm actually I'm happy to be everywhere that
I go, and I really do enjoy.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
The way you backpedaled immediately into your performative joy. It's
okay to be It's okay to be surly sometimes.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
The bottom line is, I would rather be at a
restaurant always, always. Now that's the T shirt I would
instant always always, thank you. We should put that on merch.
We should.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
But nothing we've talked about and covered so far, Julio,
disqualifies Disney World for you.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Nothing.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Wait, what do you mean, Like, I think you would
still go and enjoy it. Not that Star Wars hotel,
but I think you would stay in like definitely not
an overnight experience.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Fine. Have you ever done an escape room? No? Coolio,
I think you might like that. An escape room?

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yes, you know who likes with the little games. You
know who We did an escape room with recently, our
mutual friend George.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah. We had a great time with George doing an
escape room and he loved it and it was. It
was his very first one. We went in Hollywood and
he had a wonderful time in the escape room and
then left even saying, this is a big part of
my whole deal.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Now, wow, I think I don't want to prescribe an
open mindedness, but I think you can be curious if
you want. Unless you if you've ruled it out, I
can't stop you.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
No, I'll try everything once. Okay, hmmm, except for most foods. Well,
that's different. The seam would matter. I think. Yes, there's
different themes like saw like, not all of them. You
don't do this well okay, no, no, no, no, no.
You're thinking about haunted house, you're thinking of thin house,
and you're thinking of scary escape rooms. But there's some

(21:47):
that are like I mean, remember the one we did
in Brooklyn that was themed to like it was Chinese.
It was Chinese. It was what were you escaping a
Chinese room? It was It was a tiniest curse. It
was fun. It was a very fun escape room. Though. Yeah,

(22:08):
but are you good at like puzzles and are you
good at like yes, you are. No, I'm not gonna
use the box.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
He famously thinks very outside the box, and like what
if I made a dress with a box.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
That's thinking outside the box, thinking about not even what
goes in the box, what the box is gonna wear.
That's thinking outside the box.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Wait have you seen OMG Fashion? No, I need to
start with Julia Fox.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, we need to start.
It's really fun. Okay.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Basically, it's like the episodes are like twenty minutes perfect
and three people come and then she's like, make me
a dress out of this plastic bag, and then they
come back and then she's like I like that one
the end, and it's so entertaining watch Julia. Julia, Yeah,

(23:01):
very unpretentious.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Uh, it's so a pretentious.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Well that's that's the thing about Julia Fox that I
think she gets better than anybody, which is make it
inviting and yet also like so severe and so like
from somewhere, but like make it like unpretentious.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah. I told something to Uh.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
I was doing I was doing press for your favorite
my favorite, my favorite thing in the world. But and
you know how you go and then they like put
you in the clothes and they take the pictures.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
It's called the photo shoot.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
And I said something that like the stylist or like
one of the not the set, but like the the
someone that was working with the stylist looked at me
like what because I said I don't. I was like
there was They were showing me like clothes that were
like really nice clothes, like Lueve or whatever, and I

(23:53):
was like, I don't want to be aspirational.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
I don't want for anyone to see this and think
I should spend money on clothes.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah. Yeah, And then it's like you could feel like
the blood vessels yeah, because it's literally it's literally literally
the whole, literally the whole. They'thing with you. Yeah. Yeah.
I think that if I'm that person, like what that
could feel like to me is like a superiority thing.

(24:28):
But I think that that's just your truth is like
you don't want to be a part of that. It's
not the way that you dress, it's not what you
like represent and stand for. So it's not it's not
even just like I'm better than fashion and this person
shrivels in turns stand.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
And I love fashion, But I think like ideally, like
someone would see a picture and be like, lol, oh
my god, I should go get a plastic bag and
like make a scarf out of it.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I needed at the way that eye patch, Yeah yeah,
because I saw us wearing a luiv eyepatch and I
want a looiv eye patch. Now wait did I No?
I'm just saying that you would hate that if anyone
were to ever say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and
I yea that's fun at least, So like a luayve
eepacks that costs like ten thousand but like five yeah exactly,

(25:17):
which probably it would right something. Probably don't know what
the price point is.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
But this is the thing about Julia. Not to keep
talking about Julia, but she wears things that like no
one would ever think to wear.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
She's wearing things that are not aspirationally. Yeah, here's what
it is.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
I hate like operating and wearing things that have been
like preapproved by committee that everyone has like decided, oh
this is good because yeah, you know the whatever magazines
decided that this was good.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
So yeah, you are wearing this like check mark yes.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
So you would never do the mac dala because that
literally is one person an a winter going down the
list of being like Julio can't wear this, he has
to wear.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
This, which I didn't know yeah, I didn't know that either.
Every single person.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Imagine having a party where you tell people that's literally
a wedding, right, that's what they do the bridal party.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, it's like we're all wearing this horrible color.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
But also like you can't like if you were to
show up to like a very traditional wedding in like
jeans and a T shirt, Like people would say something,
I don't go to weddings either, right right, I think
they would.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
But that's also going away. You send me your wedding
invitations going straight to the tracks. Wow, you heard it
here first. But I'll send a text. I'll send he's
not coming to dinner, he's not coming to your wedding. Yeah,
and he's not coming to your met gala. Sorry sorry, no,
those three things. Let's talk about animal. What to we

(26:51):
love about it? Are we so happy? Are we sponsored
by animals? We're not. Let's just it's the big for
the community in Brooklyn. Yeah, has taken the community by storm.
Can I say it? We definitely need to figure out
a bathroom situation, and we can't and won't because there's
no way to it. Sort of is what it is.
It's that one bathroom thing. And it's got like a

(27:12):
trough and there's like at any given time if it's busy, like,
I don't know how you pee in there without getting
pe shy. And that actually became a big conversation amongst
people that I was there with. It's like you wait
in line and then you get there and it's like
there's so many people behind you waiting, and also you're
right on top of other people. And I don't really
deal with pea shyness, but then an animal I was

(27:35):
like because it was a topic on my mind and
because the space was so small and cramped, like in
terms of peeing. And by the way, we love the establishment.
We've been to the establishment many times. I'm just talking
about the bathroom and this phenomenon. I left not having
peed because I was like, no, I don't know how
you do that in there. I don't know how you
do that in there.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
You couldn't emotionally access a part of you that would
be comfortable enough to pee literally.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
And what did happen was I went outside and pee
on the street. It's okay, everyone, don't people do it
all the time? Like I went outside and peede on
the street, and it was no problem. It flowed out
of me like truth. Oh my interesting because he didn't
feel the need to perform there. Yeah, it wasn't even
about feeling the need to perform. It was like feeling
the immediacy of performance, like you must pee now, like

(28:19):
because you regrets having a lot of time here. I
regrets Animal.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Okay, you heard it first. And Animal is fun, but
it will make you regress. Yeah, and I actually do
think that that's true.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Like, while I think it's a really fun establishment, I
have comments about the bathroom and the fact that everyone
I've ever seen there is regressing. Oh wow, my god. Wow.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Well, can I ask is that when you say single bathroom,
is it like one person, single person occupancy in theory,
or is it like one place for everyone to go
to pee in the trough?

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I'm talking about the bathroom and Animal that trough like
the one where it's like there's like, I guess Bowen
doesn't know what the bathroom Animal. I guess you've never
even been there before.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
I've been to Animal. I have just never had to
use the bathroom there.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah. Same, Actually you've never had to peet Animal. I
guess you're always kind of like in and out.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I guess, but I also like, no, I don't know why.
I think it's just like a weird coincidence. I have
no qualms with using a public restroom.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, I mean neither. I see what's happening here. I
see what's happening here. What's happening One's hey, no, one's
how to get you. You guys are the two gay
faces of that other bar portraits, And so y'all are
trying to poison the minds of the gay community in Brooklyn.
You guys are the faces of the gay community in Brooklyn.
You have big portraits up in what's it called Macre Park. No, No,

(29:37):
not that way, It's called the Rosemont. There are huge portraits.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
And okay, wait, hold on, but I I would like
to know Matt, that this is the second time that
you have said something bad about some express a negative
opinion and then attributed it to us because you were
just dragging the bathrooms at Animal and Bowen said, I've
never used the bathroom an Animal, and then he said, oh,

(30:03):
you're dragging Animal, Yeah, he was.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
This is my whole thing. By the way, you haven't
even let me talk about the bathrooms at Rosemont, which
are also not good enough, right, right, But there's no
gay bar where the bathrooms are good enough. They're not
good enough at Metro, they're not good enough anywhere. Like
it's like, it's just it's the charm. It's part of
the charm. Part of a Brooklyn gay bar. Charm is
like you're gonna have a bad time going to the bathroom.

(30:28):
M it's the doing drugs in the bathroom. It's that
that makes it a problem.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
It's like grow up, like, grow up, like do them outside?

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well, there's they're basically like at the door to animal.
I'm just giving everyone out there that maybe isn't like
a Brooklyn gay person an experience there. You'd walk up
to the door and it's the only door I've walked
up to where the person at the front runs through
a spiel before you're allowed in.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
It's like, it's definitely not the only place. And that's
a very New York thing.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Did a very different thing, Okay, honestly, Julio, it is
very experientially. It really feels like a Disney pre showing
like you belong in Orlando, Florida. That's where you belong.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Wait, but I don't think i'd heard I don't think
i'd heard the speech, and I animal what is it.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
It's basically like it's like no jugs in the bathroom,
like and then there's like a joke about like where
you could do it, and then like you know, there's
like yeah, have fun.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, it's giving flight attendant. Yeah, miss door has a routine.
Miss door has a routine, and that's seventy seven. Miss
door has a routine. Yeah, miss door has a routine.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Anyone doing security at any bar from now on is
they're not security. They are missdoor. Missdoor. Border patrol is
miss door. They're the door, missus door. What do you
what are you doing in the United States?

Speaker 3 (31:54):
All right, miss door, it's giving miss door.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Are carrying more than ten thousand dollars in cash? Okay,
miss door? Are you missdoor? Yeah? Oh look it's how
much looking for sugar? Didding this door? What do you
think they would do? Be so confused and probably take
us all away. I mean, like, I don't think I
don't think they have a sense of humor down there
at border. I mean I think they have to suppress it.
They do. If they think it's funny, they won't show. Yeah,

(32:23):
they won't show. They definitely won't show.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
They definitely won't show. But the border people in Canada
I got here, they are not Canadian in behavior and manner.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
And they are not being kind and welcoming. No, they're
really drunk on power. I'm gonna say it, Wow, do
you have a Canadian passport? No? No, It's funny.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
I showed up like I had my work permit like form,
and then I got there and they were like, you
don't need to be here. I was like why. They
were like, you're in the system, like you're at you're
a citizen. I was like, oh yeah, and then I.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Went you forgot you were a Canadian citizen. I forgot that.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
I thought work permit just meant like you needed to
have that no matter where you went, like it just
didn't matter what nationality. I'm just so stupid. I take
all these things for granted, but didn't need it.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
You're not. I don't think you're stupid at all. I
think you had a moment. Let me say something. I
think you had a moment. You just had to lapse.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
You have a lot on your plate and you can't
keep track of all these things. I know you have
to give yourself some grace.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Thank you. Yeah, I do think Boon Yang, I'm going
to say this to you publicly. I do think it
is hire an assistant time. This is so interesting because
assistants are on the brain. Yeah, they should be. I
think it's time for you to hire an assistant.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
We have a cast assistant. So on Canadian sets they
have a cast assistant.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Oh okay, and we.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Have one person whose name is James. He's wonderful, different
than a different than a PA, and so he just
is for whatever, principles whatever. I hate the hierarchy thing,
but it's like, principles, get a cast assistant. And then
he was just like, what do you like to drink?
And it was like it's like I'll stock your fridge.
I was like, oh, diet coke and celsius. And then
I showed up the next day and it was full
and it was like.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Die cocon celsius. This is d to be careful with
the celsius. Oh. I know. That's sort of what an
assistant does though, and they can also do things that
aren't just like elective and like this will be fun
to have diet coke, Like that'll be amazing, even though
it is like something you asked for you should have
the diet coke. It's like, but that feeling was amazing.
I know. But think about this, like, now you can
have a person that like responds to the emails you
don't want to respond to, pays certain bills like you know,

(34:23):
like gets on top of things. I just feel like
you're a prime candidate for one. We'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Well, what are the names of the fictional assistance And
you know, way back in the day, hantsen clst Hants
and Celeste. Now have those names changed in sort of
what they mean to you now that we all know
and are very close to a Celeste in our lives.
Speaking of course about celestim.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Oh, that's so interesting because the name is a little
bit more real now, right, Like it's not this I
never thought about that. You create this name for this
idea of this person, and then all of a sudden
there comes the real person. Well no, because Celeste is
so different than no. Of course, the idea of Celeste,

(35:08):
which that's what I call greta titleman's character.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yes, in the movie, Uh, the idea of Celeste. Now
that's a title because.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
The idea of Celeste is Greta Titleman, and Celestim is
not the idea of celest No, no, they are their
own person. Of course I'm riding hard for this train.
This is because Greta Titleman is Celeste.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yes, yes, she is celest in concept. Yeah, but I
do think about this quite often. I do draw this,
I connect these dots in my mind. Whether I'm with
Celestim or not, I go. My only other encounter with
the name Celeste has been with a couple other Celestes
in real life. But mostly I think about Celeste like
Julio's fictional assistant intern. I'm sorry, intern, And now I

(35:55):
feel like what I've noticed is paid unpaid intern. What
I've noticed is Julio has now move moved into the
realm of made up names, fictional names, names.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
That are oh my god, yeah, I love It's my
favorite thing to do. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Is there any sort of like switch in that, Like
do you feel like that's there's truth to that statement
of like you feel like, in order to like further
filter out from reality, you go, let's make up these
fictional names, bibo and put it on the pinat and
like all these like these names.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah, well, creatures are funnier when they have fake names.
I think, of course.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
I think that's the general rule, of course, because then
they become more like unplaceable, I guess, and.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
They also get an inner life immediately immediately.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Yeah, like the learning curve for people to know how
to spell purely.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
And and pena is always funny. Yeah, I think I can
spell it. Go ahead, P I are you m L
I M and P m hm. I You're so close?

(37:02):
And yeah I an a yeah, thank you. Yeah that
was really good. Wow, that was very good. Thank you.
Now names Matt is a big name person. I was
just thinking to myself, like, what's your favorite name? Beginnings Chang.

(37:24):
Beginnings Chang is like such a beginning name and like
pop culture history for me, like beginnings Chang. Like that's wait,
I'm so sorry. Can you fill me in on who
beginnings is? Go ahead, Bowen whose Beginnings Chang?

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Deep House Dish, which is the sketch that James Anderson
wrote on est and else the ear the King of
the King of Fake Names, Jen Jen Binks and I'm
jen Jen Binks and I'm Judged Binks. But when my
Rudolph posted us and now she Beginnings Chang is like
stuck in her brain like beginnings, chang is stretches generations,

(37:56):
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Absolutely. I was sitting here thinking to myself like, just like,
do you feel like the concept of your name? And
I was like, I don't. Her names are Matt Rogers
and Julio Torres. Do you feel like the concept of
your name? No, I don't.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
I don't, But would you name yourself probably like a
little sound of some kind. Well, actually I met someone
who had a kid named Inti int Inti Inty. That's
so which I was like, Oh, I wish I were
an Ethy.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
I always want my name to be like Lyda, like
l e E d A Rida Lida, Like isn't that
so beautiful? Like that is so beautiful, elegant you're making
your elegant face. I love Natralia. I love like Leilani.
I love like you're el Lelantra. I love beautiful sort
of like ethereal feminine name like LORELEI my favorite friend

(38:53):
And now I'm not letting everyone know they were not.
My favorite friend in high school was named Laurenn l
O r I e n n E Laurien. Wasn't that good? Wow?
I was just like, how do you get a name
like that? Because no one I grew up with had one.
Everyone was Amanda, everyone was everyone ever, everyone was right,

(39:16):
especially Real Culture number nineteen.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Everyone was Amanda. But can I say, Matt, I think you,
out of the three of us, embody.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Your name the most.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, Matt Rogers, it feels I think it feels really
good on the tongue.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
To say, and so to speak, I disagree.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
I think that Matt Rogers sounds more serious than Matt
the person. And I would say that Bowen is beautiful
for you.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, I like Bowen. I don't know Yang. I'm like,
I forget that that's my last name, but.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
It counter it. It grounds the Bowen. Oh interesting my
humanized as the Bowen.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Uh huh. I agree with you that Bowen is like
it's got this like just like a beauty and a
whimsy to it. But also, didn't you say it's quite
a common Chinese name? Oh?

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Really, Yang is very common, Bowen is is. It's pretty
all Chinese names are very unique, Like it's like the
characters are infinite.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
But I like Bowen.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
The Yang is something that I like forget about, which
sounds weird.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Mm hm oh why is so pretty? Though, I like
the why very pretty? Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
I like why now letters that you guys want your
so Matt wants an l leo.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
I think you want like you want a que you want,
I definitely want.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
I would love a cue. I would also love an
eye a lowercase I.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Uh huh, you have one.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
I want more and for them to have more of
a spotlight in the name, because right now, the eye
in my name has a supporting role. The I in
my name is very like would that be all ma'am?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
You know in the scene.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Oh, but I need the eye to be a protagonist.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Oh my god, intyty, I'm gonna ask you. I'm gonna
ask you a question. Yeah, can you name me? Yeah?
I can hold on. Okay, Kevin Banks, Kevin Banks? Wait
that someone already? But how is that so much different
than Matt Rodgers? You know, Okay, okay, okay, but Kevin Banks.

(41:22):
It just seems like if you want us to give
me like a whimsical, silly name that you feel that's
what I've earned. Kevin Banks. Okay, I'm looking at myself
being like, am I Lance? Well you couldn't, but that's taken.
But that's it is taken. There's another big gay lance.
You can't you can't do that. I have a first
name for you. I have a first name for you. Okay, ruly, ruly, ruly,

(41:47):
rulyly do you think I should be named? Don't you
want it? You want it an l and you wanted
something interesting? You know what my name should be? Sorry
to him Leland, I'm taking Leland. Worry to which Leland?
There's a Leland songwriter and singer Leland. And that's a

(42:08):
stage name. But it's a beautiful stage I don't think
it's I don't think it's Leland. I think Leland is
too too cookie for you.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Okay, so so sorry, So Matt, do you want a
quote unquote like established name.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Here's my name, Philip Dunkret. No, no, what is no?
You want to Philip dun dunk grit? You don't want to?
No one, Philip Dunkret Like that's something that I'm using.
Philip Dunkrit. What is dunkrit from? I don't know. I
made it up. I made up a word. We're talking about.

(42:43):
How that's fun? Okay, Yes, okay, I have one. I
have one dustin Dallas, d Dallas. Though. Yeah, No, I
think it's perfect for you. Dustin Dallas or like Duncan Dallas,
don't Dallas. I like Dustin Dallas. Dustin Dallas. One of
my favorite porn stars name is Dustin Dustin. What does

(43:06):
he have a last name? Hazel? Dustin Hazel. That's a
great name. I'm not familiar with Hazel sports. He's wonderful. Yeah, okay,
check it out. I feel like both of you. I'm
thinking of your output and your art and your work,
and both of you, I feel like in your future,
if not already, have like a gay porn type of

(43:27):
story to tell through your writing or directing or what
you mean?

Speaker 3 (43:32):
You mean that like something we make will generate a
porn spoof that we know.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Like what he's saying is he wants us to do
only fans together. He's saying he wants us to start
up a channel. He wants to watch us.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
I can't open a small business, I like, I really,
I do not have time.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
It's so much admin work. I can't. I don't know
how our.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Friends who our friends who have only fans And it's
like the amount of time it takes to like in
oct with people and it's just no, it's.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
It is like a crazy hard job. I recently saw
someone have like sort of a little bit of a breakdown,
like it's this guy on only fans and I guess
he got a message from someone.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
And he put the breakdown on only fans. It was like, no,
he didn't have a breakdown on OnlyFans. Although I have
watched some people that I follow on only fans like
postlong things about how like I have seen some people
like really open enough about what the toll this takes
on their mental health and stuff, and I'm like, God,
then like, please take this to another platform or to
another service, like not because I don't want to hear it,

(44:37):
because I'm like, this is not You're not going to
get what you need.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
From your only fans followers. But maybe the transfer on
Twitter the community would that's their time. I guess what
I mean by take it to another platform is like
take this feeling somewhere else to feel better about it,
like therapy or like friends or something like that. But
I did recently see someone that I follow on OnlyFans,
who I also follow on Instagram sort of say that

(45:04):
people in his dms get very familiar and sexual and
treat them sort of like like garbage, like not a person.
And he was saying, it's like this particular creator was like,
I don't want to have sex with you and your boyfriend,
Like I don't want if you're an open relationship, Like
I'm not someone who wants to participate in that. That's
my preference. And like, because of my job, it seems

(45:24):
like everyone thinks they can talk to me crazy and
like throw anything by me, and if I react in
a certain way, it's like, oh suddenly they're like, oh
fuck you, you're not as fun as I thought you were. Like, no,
like you subscribe to.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Me, which is so childish to think that, like someone's job, right,
is like how you should like interact with them when
they're not. It's very like, no, honey, there's a human
under Mickey.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Right exactly, Like you can't walk up and grab Mickey's
butt just because Mickey the character is such as slut,
you know what I mean? Like, right, as a human,
I'm Mary Mickey is a big whore. But I feel
like the two of you people waw friendship from the
two of you.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yes, And that's not a bad thing to like that
is not a toxic thing to like that. That is
so different from people not only fans, being like treated
and talked and spoken to like chattel because it's completely
sexual and whatever.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Like I can handle that. Yeah. The parasocial thing with
us is like maybe sometimes people will talk to us
like as if they know us. And what's funny is
when they start doing it and they're like like one time,
like someone came over to Bowen, I was like bitch
and like yelled bitch and like it was like you
can feel them feel in the moment, like he didn't
know what the saga wars. He was like bitch flir. Yeah,

(46:45):
sometimes it's like you could literally see in a moment
people realize like, oh, I just talked to him, like
I know him. I don't know him, but I think
it's just you know, tales all the time. Totally totally fun.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
I do feel like this is this sounds like such
a naive discovery, but I feel like people who have
followings will engender and reflect the things about them onto
those people, like on a larger scale, does that make sense?
Like perfect example is Sarah Sherman, Like her fans are

(47:16):
people who sent her fan art and are so creative
and so cookie and weird and silly and like that's
because that's who she is. And like, I feel like, Julio,
you invite people who are extremely like thoughtful and like
are just like people?

Speaker 3 (47:30):
What are you saying that? Like people like walk up
to Sarah and be like, you want to see my
sit and she does talk about that.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
She's like people do also, Like I think we all
have this thing of like anyone who has like an
online or like a persona in one public facing way
and then a private inner life, which is almost everybody
like has this weird dissonant thing where it's like, oh
but you think that, like You're able to bring that
to me, and I'm supposed to like honor and appraise

(47:57):
that in a way that you expect and it's.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Not exactly what it is, and it's not exactly what
it is, Like I'm trying to find the right words.
You found him. I did, But like people seem very
measured with you who are talking to me.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think I've had any interactions that
have made me uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Yeah no, there was one at my Christmas show where
and I adore this person And if this person hears
this and knows it's them or thinks it's them, like,
just take it away from you. I'm just saying in
an amorphous way. There was someone who came up to
me once at one of my shows and said, I
have to tell you, I hated you for a really
long time. And I listened to the podcast and I

(48:40):
hated you. I couldn't stand you. And then I realized
I was you, and that why I hate it very powerful.
And they go like, because when you are like too much,
or you're annoying, or you say the thing that you
shouldn't say, like I just I said I hate him,
and then I realized, no, I hated myself. All the
things about you that I don't like were the things

(49:03):
I didn't like about me. And then they were like,
and now I love you like I appreciate you, I
respect you. You inspire me because I have learned to
love myself. And I was just like sort of taking
in it, and I was like, oh, like I get it,
but like it's not. It's it's a lot when you're
on the receiving end of it, because it's just like, oh, okay,
like you're still hearing the words I hated you, you know,

(49:24):
of course, and the reason it's why, yeah, and the reason.
And I'm literally standing there like with the vinyls she
had bought in my hands, like signing it like okay,
oh my god, people waiting behind her.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
I was like, Okay, what did you write? Not hating
me anymore? I know I can't be too much winky face.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
I'm knowing me. I probably wrote love you Mama xo
x so Matt Rogers, you.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Know what I mean, Like Matt Rogers blocking in with
a love your Mama, Love your Mama's lake Waite, love
your Mama, Love your mama.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Love you mam x x Wow. But it's beautiful. Bowen. Yeah.
What do you have anything to say to that person
that called you a bitch? Robertson Niro? Do you want
to say it's a miner? Robert? Robert was.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
It was in the middle of a Tribeca Film Festival.
Was his festival.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
It is his festival to revitalize Anta New York, to
revital to New York after nine eleven.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
You know I was.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
I was a volunteer for the Tribeca Film Festival twice
when I was in college.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
That's great. It must have been good enough for you
to go back.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
I just thought like, Oh, if I'm the best volunteer,
they're gonna give me a job and I'm gonna got
a visa. So I was just like doing I would
do anything that people would allow me to do.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah, but did you learn a lot about film? No,
I'm not gonna learn it. No I didn't.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
I was like a nuts shirt and a little Tribeca
Film Festival t shirt.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
That's the thing about going to those festivals. It is
so hard to see anything. I don't even know how
to wrap my head around like quickly. Yeah forgetting. I've
been to Sundance twice. I've not seen a movie yet
Sundance kidding just true.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
You went last night, didn't you. You told me about
things you saw last time you went.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Bib No, I've never seen a movie at Sundands. I had,
and it was like, so the ticket is in a seat,
like you know, you have to get here early. It's
like any of the good stuff, like I couldn't even
finaggle my way in with like connections. I was like,
You're like, can I please watch a movie? I just
wanted to watch a movie. Watch a movie. I got
tickets to one movie, which was The Brooks Shields Documentary

(51:31):
and I was excited about seeing it, but then you're
at Sundands and it's like, oh so much. I'm like,
you're so tired, everyone's so hung over the entire time,
and we didn't end up going and there's like the
Uggs Lounge or whatever, And I mean, when there's the
Uggs Lounge, do you really have to go see a movie?
You know what I mean? There's so much to do
in the Uggs Lounge. Yeah, of Cocoa. They make that
main street of park City so fun, like you don't

(51:53):
ever have to leave.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
I'm not a festival person. I must say I have
a hard time with festivals. I think that Edinburgh really
took it out of me.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah, it's a tough one.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Well that's totally different from like south By, which you
did for Problemista.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
There, you just show up. You're not really doing anything.
The movie is made and then but you're still promoting it.
You're still like putting on a face to like talk
about like the thing you made.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
And yeah, yeah, yeah, you answer questions and yeah, I'm
always like be likable, be likable, like God. To be likable,
you don't have to try. You are.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
You know, I was coming over here on my work
over here. I was like, Julio, you gotta remember this
time be funny. This time, you just gotta be this
gotta be fine. I am always so I recessed to
audience member often and I'm like, all these are funny
and I'm enjoying it, and I'm like quietly like he

(53:02):
and then I'm like, oh wait, no.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Well you couldn't wait to talk at the top. I know,
I know, and I have to be charming and engaging
so that people will consume my product hashtag press press.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Yeah, must be charming and engaging so that people consume
my product. So to that point, I would hypothetically go
to a wedding there.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Well, I was gonna say, to that point, i'd go
to a theme park. I think, to the park. I
love Christmas. I'll eat anything there love. Group Fitness was
praised for my attitude celebrate it.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Even you're describing our lives, you're describing what we what
we have to put ourselves through.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, fitness. I will say, the only thing about this
is why people consume your product. I know it. Well. Well,
then I'll say, okay, so here's the thing. Here's the
other side of the coin, though, I am so enthusiastic
about so many things that when I'm about things, or
if I'm negative about something, people are like whoa, or

(54:16):
they like react to it weirdly. But then I don't know.
The comment. Recently, I guess has been like that we
are like too many things.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Okay, wait, did you were you in a don't leave
the table to you finish anything household?

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Actually, my parents would not let me get up and
leave the table unless my dinner was finished.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Yeah wow, yeah, see I was in a My mom
would be like, if you don't want to eat something,
don't eat it. Don't eat it, because if you ever
do something that you don't want to do, it'll make
you sick.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Oh my god. Yeah, that's actually very healthy.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
I like my whole childhood just white rice and saltines
because I was like, I don't like color.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Kela gives me a headache. White rice and saltines. Rice
and saltines, please, I want to eat erasers. They looked
so yummy. They do look real, yea, because you know
what they look like, gum gum famously edible. But the

(55:20):
big white ones, yeah, those those felt so good in
the hand and it kind of. I just wanted to Yeah,
when they were a little translucent.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Yeah, oh, which is your favorite?

Speaker 1 (55:33):
I do? I do.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
That's why I love tofu, just like open up a
carton of tofu and eating it.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
It's like eating rice is great, getting talked about enough
as being one of the great things.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Can I make tofu for you guys for dinner and
you guys don't have to and no one can say
it's good?

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Are you good at making it? Like I've never heard
you say, I'm really good at preparing tofu? Babe.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
I make a good mapo tofu, and I can make
a good vegan version, and and you guys would both
like it but not have to go through the whole
sharade of saying, oh my god, this is so good.
And I swear I will not ever ever once say
oh it's I did my best in silence.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Yeah, well, because that's our genuine friend, and he's not
going to be like, oh, I'm upset because they didn't
tell me how good the food was, you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, not like that. It's not like that.
I will say. There's one person whose food is restaurant quality,
and it is Dave Mazzoni. His food is restaurant quality. Wow,
what is Dave feast? He'll just like I remember one
time we were there, like years ago, yes, very that

(56:34):
like rich Italian food, Like we were good Bowen. Do
you remember years ago when we were at we were
doing some meeting for popular Lette at Dave's house and
then like out of nowhere, we didn't even smell it cooking.
He just comes down with like so much lasagna and
like Canoulli's and like like it was just like it
was just like there was so much happening and we

(56:54):
were just like, oh my god, and it was just
like excellent, but Italians when you came up, So Dave sucks. Yeah,
Italian food.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
It is my understanding that when it's done very well,
people really like it.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Oh what what are you not an Italian food fan? Oh? Man, Yeah,
you don't need that. Not No, I don't. I don't
not really. A lot of it has egg, cheese and butter.
What is the current pop culture that you're consuming? Like,
for example, have you hit play on the like Billie
Eilo show Them at all? I have not hit play
on the Billie Eilis album at all. What is the
current pop culture that I'm consuming by current you mean

(57:30):
like active, right, yeah, like four to question Mark, Yeah,
twenty four to question Mark. Like what's out right now?
Like what is the thing that's happening? You were like,
I want to engage in that? Like I feel like
I have been engaging. I have been. I'm engaging in
OMG fashion. I what else? What else? What else? Perfect name?
OMG fashion, It is the perfect name. I'm trying to like.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Really, anime is very daunting for me because there's so
much of it, so I never really know where to start.
But I have been watching the show Pluto, which I
really have been enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
It's daunting, but it's quick. You watch it in like
a day or two, because not a lot of them
do more than one or two seasons, unless it's like
your huge show and James and your boyfriend knows all
of the good ones too.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
He does, he does. But then like the suggestion list
is so long.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
I know, Yeah, you should watch Assassination Classroom, Assassination Classroom,
him how to be Assassins.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
But Okay, here's the thing I don't. I don't like bloody.
It's not bloody. Can I tell you what the premise
is any assassination in it? I think you're gonna like it. No, no, no,
here's why. What's the truth? Well, here's the plot, and
I'm okay, and I might put trip it. This is
the plot.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
An alien with a big yellow head m hm and
like two small eyes and a smiley face like mouth
has blown up half of the moon and the world
is like, oh my god, what's happening? And then the
alien where's the rest of the moon. Well, yeah, like,
oh my god, the moon is gone? Like this is
fucking up the grab like you know, gravity whatever, Okay,

(59:00):
And then this alien goes down to Earth and takes
over a school in Japan and becomes a teacher at.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
That school gets staffed.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Well, he like takes over the school and becomes a
staff member and staffs himself. As it were, the whole thing,
the whole thing where parkt well, like, where's the like
does teacher drag like dresses up like a teacher, but
has like an alien face and head or whatever, and
he's teaching a class full of students, like, has a
class full of students.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
He goes, if one of you can.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Kill me, the only way you can get the moon
back is if one of you kills me, but like
they all like try to kill him, but he always
like thwarts them, and there's a reason why this all happens.
And it's actually really well constructed story, Like I think
you would both really like it.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Assassination school. That's an assassination classroom. Classroom. Okay, sound qunchy row.
I'm bookmarking that not only for washing and enjoying, but
also because it reminds me of I don't think so, honey,
which we'll say in a second. But first I want
to ask both of you if you have heard about
this movie that just premiered. It can called The Substance

(01:00:09):
with Demi Moore and Margaret Qually. Tell us I've heard
the buzz, but I have not seen the movie. So
this is I guess it's like it's this movie that
one best screenplay I can. It like got like one
of the longer standing ovations, which like they go off
with standing ovations. They at the end they're like, you know,
just like really time them. Yes. Yeah. And Lily Gladstone,

(01:00:31):
who Bowen is working with now, was on the can
Jury and I'm dying to find out what the tea
was about watching this movie and what it was like,
because apparently it's a thriller, right, yes, it's like a
horror thriller, but really it's body horror. So it stars
Demi Moore as an aging actress. She's like an Academy
Award winning actress. And her name, just to give you

(01:00:52):
a sense of the tone, is Elizabeth Sparkle, so she
plays Sparkle. She's a former Academy Award winning actress who
now does like fitness videos. So it's supposed to be
like Jane Fonda. She's up in years ish, like Hollywood
has told her she's fucking ancient. She's really in her
middle age. Like she essentially gets like replaced at her job,

(01:01:14):
which is doing this fitness you know, video, because they're
gonna get like a younger person. She is told that
she can start taking this supplement or this injection or whatever.
It is called the substance, and what it does is
it literally allows yourselves to replicate so that another younger,

(01:01:34):
better quote unquote version of you comes out of your
spine splits and the younger and that's Margaret. So basically
the rule is the you that's younger has to like
sustain and take care of the older body for a
week while you go live your life as the younger,

(01:01:55):
more vibrant thing. Then after a week, the older you
comes to consciousness and has to maintain the younger body.
So basically it becomes this story about essentially yes, but
it's like the younger version apparently starts really feeling herself
because she's young, beautiful in the world. Is about a lie. Yes,

(01:02:16):
value that I am a human legs and eyes, yes,
and sort of just like sorry, like like becoming a
star in the younger body, but then goes to the
old body and she walks around the around the world
and basically like everyone's like like whatever, treating her like

(01:02:39):
I guess to me more, you know what I mean,
And she is unable to see that she's still valid
in her older body. So the younger version starts to
slip in terms of taking care of the older one.
And the big rule of the movie is to remember
that they are one organism or else things will be catastrophic,
like no spoilers because I don't know how what happens,

(01:03:01):
but apparently I know. Also remarkable that you have not
seen this movie, I know, fascinated by it, like I've
read so much about it because I also feel like
I don't know if I'm gonna sit through it, So
I'm consuming a lot of you because it was to
talk of the beast way, what do you mean you
don't know if you're gonna sit through because of what
I'm going to say. Okay, I'm very squeamish too. And
apparently the third act is the most intense graphic, sustained

(01:03:25):
violent body horror like in cinema history since like The Fly,
like in the late eighties with Jeff Goldbloom, like where
his body essentially decomposes them, like because he turns into
a fly essentially. So this movie was apparently had people
like passing out and throwing up after watching it, but
it was also very much in a while since we

(01:03:46):
had those urban legends of ye people people like the movie.
The last one in my memory was Passionate of the
Christ and there was bloodletting. Oh my god, that's so funny.

(01:04:09):
But apparently Demi Moore may even be up for an
oscar because she is like apparently incredibly fearless and in
the way that she acts this last act and also
the fact that like she's confronting this thing that's been
said about her for the majority of her career. She
was you know, young people have been talking about her appearance,

(01:04:29):
the way that she's you know, conceptualized in everyone's mind's eyes,
like this idea of like cinematic perfection, and then that
person got older, may have had worked done, et cetera.
The entire like trajectory of her career has had this
shadow of you know, the male gaze on it. And
so for her to do this movie, I think she's
getting a lot of like what apparently is well er
in praise for it, and the movie won Best Screenplay

(01:04:50):
at can because apparently it's just that bold. So that's
like a Greta Gerwig jury right there. So I'm excited.
What do you mean it's a Greta Garwig. Joe, she
was the head of the jury.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Oh oh oh oh, I thought you were saying it's
a great of growing esque jury.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
No, yeah, yeah, I was describing the vibe. Just for
her to preside over that jury and like, you know,
her to be as like renowned and talented writer as
she is, and for her to give that best screenplay
I think is you know, it's exciting. Wow, Greta like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Her vocabulary with like film history is like so wild.
I'm like, oh, like, like I heard some of her feedback,
like which was sharing thoughts. All of her quotes were
like you know that it reminded me of the classical
structures of it blah blah. But and I'm like, oh
my god, like you really do know it all? Like
where does one learn? What would your master class be on?
If you had a master class, what would it be on?

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Hmmm, fucking masturbating at the worst times of day? That
would be my masterclass.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
What's the worst that we got the meme from this episode? Yeah,
what's the worst time that I say, like right before
they need you on set?

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Yeah? No, no, no, no, I like like four four pm.
Oh yeah, yeah, no, that's pretty bad. I actually was
ten minutes late to therapy because I like I had
it at four and I like had to come at
three fifteen pm, like something happened. I was like, I
have to jack off. And then I got in the
car and I was we had traffic because I have
to go out the way to capacity and I was like, well,

(01:06:18):
fuck this traffic. I'm like, no, fuck you because you
had to jack off at three fifteen I do agree.
It is the worst time. What was the name that
I gave you? What's the name?

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
Because dustin dustin Dallas, that's in Dallas. Move right there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
I will tell you this, and I'm late. I had
to come. This is this is something I will speaking
of during the day, sexual behavior. I won't say who
or why or what. But I was at one of
those group fitness classes during the day a couple of
weeks ago, and the instructor was so like hot and encouraging,

(01:06:56):
and so it was in changing all of it, just
like the best version of what that lesson is where
I went home, got on grinder and message you went
to cerebro in the middle of them in the middle
of the day. I never do that. From now, from
someone else, from someone else, very much about him. From

(01:07:19):
it was, I must find the ideal surrogate, exactly the
substance to fulfill my fantasy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
I must find I must find the boy, and if not,
a surrogate will have to do.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
A surrogate, did it? Or was that your your grinder name?
I must find the boy, find the boy, or else
a surrogate will have to do. And then I had
a lot of you know, surrogates come forward, not a lot.
I mean, do you think the surrogate you think you'll
see the story get again? Actually? Yeah, this guy fucking
really it was great. I actually was. It made me realize, like, huh,

(01:07:53):
maybe sex during the day is the move. Oh I
love it. Yeah, same, I think it's great. You know,
I don't know. I just there's something about having sex
in the daylight.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Oh the lighting and the lighting is great. The reason
I say four thirty is you come and then if
you get lucky later on in the night, then you're like,
oh I I already a oh, I already ate, you know,
and then it's like oh and then you kind of
get some performing anxiety around that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
What a busy life. I think that's why I liked
the daytime fuck because it was like, and now I
don't have to even encounter the thing at night because
I'm not looking for it to be disappointed at night,
you know what I mean? Like I did that during
the day and it was it went really well, so
I don't have to feel bad about it later. Disappointed
at Night another great title for something disappointed at night.
For this episode, Disappointed at night, Disappointed at Night. That's beautiful.

(01:08:42):
I think it's my fourth time on Lost Culture, says,
my fourth time on Lost Culture. Sys. Is it the
fourth time or is it the third time? Fourth? I don't.
I don't know. I mean, canonically it's gonna be fourth.
I guess because you were on once with Anna. You
were on once. I member your first episode was iconically
called yes dot dot Dot because we talked about I
don't think that was my first episode. That was not
your first episode. Really, I think this is fourth. I

(01:09:05):
think this is fourth. Yeah, well it's fourth, no matter what. Okay,
my fourth episode of Last Culture, my fourth episode? Should
we do I don't think so, honey, Yes, oh god,
I told me, okay, yeah, totally forgot this fourth. Okay,

(01:09:34):
so this is Last Culture reached us, this big segment.
I don't think so, honey. We do one minute, you know,
t whirl on something that's not so great, and the
aliens of it all actually reminded me. I woke up
on the conspiracy side of the bed this morning and
I've my eyes have been open to something and I
really have to I have to alert the world. Oh
my god, this is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey.
As time starts now. I don't think so, honey, aliens existing.

(01:09:57):
I'll tell you what it is if you don't think.
My dad sent me a drone like light show. It
was like a Star Wars droned light show and I
was like, huh, you know what. This reminds me of
those unidentified flying objects that are all around that no
one can explain. It's like, I'm sorry, but things moving
on naturally in the sky, they're drones. I'll tell you

(01:10:19):
who has more money than even NASA. Elon Musk SpaceX
is the reason why there are quote unquote aliens. There
are no aliens. What they're trying to do and this
is Elon Musk and I'm saying this, and there's gonna
be a bounty on my head after I say this.
I'm bravely saying it allows culture. Elon Musk wants us
to believe that there are aliens so that he can
start a war. We can have a comagenemy, okay, because

(01:10:41):
there's nothing more powerful than a you creating your own army.
He wants to basically convince us all there are alians
so that we fear the external and he will control
us this way. I don't think so honey, and that's
one minute. Oh my god, that's how I feel. I
don't think there are aliens.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
I think it's SpaceX, your most Mary and Williamson coded thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Yet Oh I say that, I I I go anytime
someone says Mary and Williamson. Does anyone feel that I'm
Does anyone feel I'm right?

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Well, I don't know if you're right, but I do.
I do think that that is it's compelling.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Like I watched this drone show and I was like, wow,
like a drone show. It was like a Star Wars
speed like this guy. Yeah, Like it's it's like essentially
replacing fireworks shows, so you're gonna see less and less
fireworks shows as times. It's like, it's Sky Entertainment.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
It's got okay another okay, that is the name of
your LC.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Sky Entertainment. If it wasn't Basic Instinks, Inc. It would
be Sky Entertainment. Isn't that a great name? Maybe my
last name is Sky. Maybe I'm Dustin Sky.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
Yes, oh, Dustin Sky's good. So it's like synch or
nice swimming but with robots, Julio, That's exactly what that is.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Kind of cute. It is programmed Sky entertainment in the
sky and basically they can control to do anything. And
also then you don't have like the environmental issue of
like the fireworks every single night, I guess because you're
watching robots move around in the sky so basically, and
they can do things that fireworks can't, Like they can
create these designs and these lettering in the sky. Like

(01:12:17):
what you can see they're capable of is like mind blowing.
And I'm watching it and I'm like, I'm sorry, but
who is out there still saying that there are aircrafts
that move in ways that things can't move them, like
there are drones in the sky that can do anything.
Like why are we following this train of logic? I
see your plant. It's like this helicopter went backwards and
they don't do that. I have news for you. Yes

(01:12:37):
they do when they're not helicopters, they're drone.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
But Matt, how do you explain like pre elon Musk,
like this was a phenomenon?

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Okay, I don't think it was. Oh, I don't think
it was the US. Yes, people always said UFO sightings,
but none of them could ever be substantiated. Now, all
of a sudden, we have quote unquote substantiated, like but classified.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
A lot of these documents not we I just mean
the government is they ask you, they.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Ask you to co sign. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like any
bone signature. Well Bowen is Illuminati. I'm Illuminati.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
But like I feel like this is this is slowly
coming to the surface. But I respect and I agree
with Julia.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
This is compelling. I don't know that I'm following you completely.
This is all you need to know any time you
see something in the sky that's moving in like an
unidentifiable pattern or like an unnatural way, the way that
quote unquote birds don't move or quote unquote you know,
aircrafts don't move. It's like you should just watch a

(01:13:37):
Star Wars Drone show. Just watch it and then you'll
understand that things very much do move like that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
Wait, I'm sorry when you say Star Wars Drone show, Yes,
I do mean Disney if that's your question. Oh so
this is at Disney very much so. And what makes
it a Star Wars Drone show. It's it like they
like form Princess Leah's face.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
I'm just gonna show you on this, okay, because it's
literally unbelievable. My dad send it to like he does
all the time. So can you see this now? Look,
Look that's a drone, that's not a firework that's supposed
to mimic the two sons of Tachuine. And you'll see
they're starting to drift slowly down as if the sun
is setting. Okay, and now they're disappeared. Now see that
they've disappeared. And now look what happensarngement. They've arranged in

(01:14:21):
seconds to create this death start in the sky and
the death star is slightly rotating. So what I'm saying is,
if we are able to create this in the sky
for entertainment, why would we think that Elon Musk and
SpaceX or Bezos or whatever the fuck whatever is going on,
whoever has the amount of money that can do this
in the sky would not try to control human ideology

(01:14:44):
and fear as it relates to the unknown. Fear is
a controller. And I feel that this is what's happening
in a major way. And I think that sheeple think
it's aliens, but there are no aliens. Wo. I no,
again again, I think it's very compelling. I'm compelling. I'll

(01:15:06):
look into it. I'll look into it, you know, I
was on I was on mushrooms the other day and
I was with Henri Koperski and he said, you're making
a really good point. And I pointed at him and
looked in his eyes and said, I am very compelling.
I am very compelling. I am very compelling. And he
couldn't help but agree. You always were. You always were,

(01:15:31):
he always was. Just know that Elon Musk is going
to assassinate me. Now this part of the episode is
gonna be seriously not there anymore. No, I'm going to
be the only one who knows the truth that the
both of you were in cahoots with SpaceX.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Has anyone else's algorithm been feeding AI images of Elon
Musk and Suckerberg?

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Yes, yes, there's a lot of There's a lot of
els like it's like Elon Mark Zuckerberg like being a couple.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
It's like the wholy a very believable couple. I would say,
I'm like, yoh, yeah, they're a tea.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
It's like when people were doing the Trump putin gay
love thing, and it's like now they're doing that with
but with new AI technology, it's like that same sort
of like.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Goof, we have unlocked human potential. Oh honestly, with AI,
we've officially gone too far. You want to know why
because on this new season of the Circle, one of
the people competing is just full on AI, and Michelle
Buteau is narrating it being like and the producers are not.
They have no idea what this AI is going to do,

(01:16:36):
and it's just an AI. It's learning the game, it
is learning the social dynamics, and it's doing an incredible
job so far. I've only watched one and a half episodes,
but I'm like, I literally was like sitting here like
watching it, and I'm thinking to myself, like, at what
point is the AI just gonna learn to take over
the show? Like I just the AI thing isly and

(01:17:00):
now we're having fun with it on Netflix's The Circle.
I mean, I don't know, we've already sort of like
get an AI host on the view. Honestly, we're really close. Like,
wouldn't it be fun if one of the hosts was AI?
Would it have come telling things to say? You've already
asked a question and you don't have to pay that host, right,
you don't have to pay it? Can't believe it, Like

(01:17:24):
if they're basically saying like, oh, like what if this
AI like wins the circle, what then it's doing a
really good job. It's better at social stuff than humans.
I don't know what is the circle? Yeah, it's a
game show.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
It's like a game show where everyone is locked in
their own rooms and they only communicate through this like
social media platform and then people have to like it's
as if like influencers was gamified, like the whole concept
of like being likable on the Internet was like gamified
into like a Survivor slash like Big Brothers style of
like eliminating people. It's fun, it's really like it becomes

(01:18:03):
very compelling. It is like a little dystopic, and it
is like kind of simplifying over simplifying what social media is.
But it's fun to watch. But I'm gonna watch I
haven't watched it in a while. I'm gonna watch this one.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
It's just interesting because like they're all in their own room.
They all have these avatars and that's how they communicate,
and some of the real humans that are being themselves
are communicating and you see the other people sort of
like digest the way that they've said hello, and they're
like hmm, that person sounds really wooden, and I bet
that person's a catfish because a lot of them are catfish.
That's like part of the game. And they're fully real

(01:18:37):
human beings expressing themselves normally. And then this AI comes
in aware of the fact that they need to have
more of a personality, so they say that accident and wow,
So they say things like a little bit offbeat in
it off like else on when they meet in or whatever. Yes,
And basically the AI has chosen its avatar and its personality,

(01:18:59):
and it's like age and like it's a guy. It's
like a white guy in its mid twenties. It looks
like cute but not handsome, like non threatening holding a
cute dog. And the AI is like studies have sown
that's seventy percent of photos with dogs like do better,
Like you automatically are a more likable person. And it's
like working. You see the other people the contestants being

(01:19:22):
like that is that dog? I know I'm gonna get
along with Adam.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
There's I guess like there's some magazine or something that
does like videos of like during Bress junkets. The one
I saw a clip of was Chris Hemsworth and Nannie
Taylor joy like playing with puppies, and there's something so
like dark and primal about that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
I mean like, here are these two beautiful blonde people
playing with dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Enjoy it, eat it, and it is widely enjoyed. Eat this. Yeah,
here's some content. It's like woof to say nothing of
the dogs. But woof, woof? Why am I saying it? Like? Woof?
You find out I'm Ai. I think I'm the least
Ai out of all of us to be honest, refreshingly human.

(01:20:12):
Bowen Yang Ai, I am Ai af Well, let's find
out what Ai has to say. Bowen Yang, do you
have an I don't think so, honey, I do.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
It's very, very stupid, it's not, but I think people
will relate.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
This is Bowen Yang's relatable. I don't think so, honey.
His time starts now. I don't think so, honey.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Cutting up a bell pepper there is no agreed upon
way to slice bell pepper, and we're all this is
why language and communication is broken down across the world.
It's not social media. It's because we have not settled
on a way to chop up bell pepper in our
salads in our soups, in our stews and our snacks.
Everyone's like, oh, you gotta cut around the stem, or

(01:20:53):
oh you gotta like get the white like pity stuff out.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
You gotta get like the dirty rounded part of it
has to be straight strips.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
No, we have to agree upon one way to cut
bell pepper otherwise this is the Tower of Babel all
over again. If we can't agree on how to do
this one simple thing, then what hope do we have
as a civilization? What hope do we have for society?
For the way that why are we growing these damn
vegetables in the first place if we're not even going
to agree on how to use them. It's not about
personal preference. It's about making sure there's a standard way

(01:21:24):
and a way that sort of encourages equality.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
And that's one minute. I was going to say, it's
like the Tower of Babel all over again.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
We must find a way of cutting the pepper that
encourage equality.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Equality and community that was really important. There's no community
around bell peppers. Well, I will say, in terms of
the stem, you definitely do have to cut around the stem.
And I think that the rule of thumb with bell
peppers is you just have to do a little bit
more work. You have to dice them more than you think.
But it's worth it. It is worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
I love Bell Pepper, Oh certainly, Julia. What do you
think as a vegan? How do you feel about bell Pepper?
I think they're very important.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
How do you feel about it? I think they're very important. Yeah,
you love the question. You love doing a.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
Very leading question. How do you feel about it? I
think it's very important. How do you feel about representation?

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
I think it's about he's gonna still say that no matter.
How are you like? I know, I know talk about
bell peppers? I uh me. Bell peppers are neither a
plasma R minus. They're like iceberg lettuce. To me, they're
like but iceberg lettice is no nutritional value. If it's there,
I'll have it. I'll never miss it. What's your like

(01:22:39):
if you had to make like sort of like your
little vegan lunch, what is it? I think my favorite food? Well, sushi?
What you like sushi? Sushi? Oh? Sushi?

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
No, I mean I do like meals that are contained,
So sushi is very good. A burrito, I think is
really good because it's a capsule of food.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Yeah, and by contained, you mean like, actually, the food
keeps itself together.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
The food keeps itself together. Yes, I don't need you
on raveling in front of me.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
Right, got it? Got it? I got I got it?
Got Yeah. So you go to Chipotle, let's just say
you're certainly not gonna get like, no, I don't know bowl. Well,
but you wouldn't get a breata bowl. If I hypothetically
had to go to a Chipotle, I would not get
a reata bowl. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Is a taco self contained that unravels in front of you?

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
Very often a taco's needy, Right, A taco needs to
be helped, so needy, Oh my god, needs to be
held or else it's nothing. Yeah, you're right. Sushi. Sushi
needs nothing from you. It's so true. It's so true.
Sushi needs nothing from you just to enjoy it. You know,
there's a lot of people out there thinking that you

(01:23:55):
can't eat too much sushi. I have to say, last
time I found out that wasn't true. You can. Yeah,
because I woke up this morning and I felt like garbage,
and I was like, what happened? Too much? Then I realized, Well,
because a lot of people are talking about how they
don't think you can eat too much of it. Where
do you hear No, Matty, I don't really remember how

(01:24:16):
where I heard it, but it's out there.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
But the sushi doesn't need anything from you, you know
what I mean. That still doesn't change the fact that
sushi does not ask anything of you, and it's on
you that you ate so much.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Yeah, it's a theory. I understand what you're saying. I'm
not really following. But is that what I said to
you about the drugs? Yeah? I think it's compelling. I
don't really understand what you're saying. But wow, that's not
how I said it. Okay, Well, well we'll talk about
this offline. Okay, Julio, are you ready to do I

(01:24:48):
don't think so, honey. Yeah. And I'm actually very proud
of it because I just thought about it. Okay. I
did not prepare this is This is Julio Torres. I
don't think so, honey. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey.
The barricade around the portal are you familiar with Are
you familiar with the portal? No, it's the circular portal

(01:25:11):
in New York. It's like a big screen with a
live feed between Manhattan and I want to say Dublin.
And the whole thing is that like tourists in both
cities can just like wave at each other. There's a
thirty seconds where is it? I want to say it's
Madison Square Park.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Maybe this is a barricade and there is a barricade
around the portal guarding the portal because too many people
were exposing themselves in both countries. Fifteen seconds or just
showing foul things to each other. But frankly, if you
don't trust the public with public art, we have failed
as a society.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
Five seconds. If public art.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Is too delicate or begs itself to be used in
a specific way, then you are you are condescending to
the audience and we don't need it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
One minute. That's beautiful. That was really not only was
it beautiful to hear you say, I don't think so, honey,
the barricade around the portal, but also the facts were
there too. If public art can't be public, we've failed. Yeah,
If public art can't be public, we have failed. Release
the portal, open the portal, drop the barricade to the portal,

(01:26:24):
drop the barricade to the portal. At once if I
were mayor.

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
If I were mayor, and I will be someday, that
is the first thing I'll do. I will say, drop
the barricade to the portal. Everyone must have access to
the portal. That would be my first tweet as mayor.
You're not going to be mayor, Yes I will be.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
No, you have a sarriving Hollywood career, whether you like
it or not. Look look at Reagan, Look at Reagan.
Look at Schwartzenegger.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Yeah, look at Schwartzenegger. I'll do it now. The portal
is beautiful. I've just looked up.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
I've never seen this in the city neither. Well, it's flopping.
It's giving the vessel all over again. The vessels so sad.
The vessels just like, have.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
I shown you my collection of guys on Tinder that
have pictures with the vessel?

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Yes, I would love to see it. A lot of
gay guys, exclusively gay guys that the people use them
are the only ones I can see on Tinder. They
won't let me see anything else. The vessel is so
so like streng guy stand like, can you believe where
I am? I'm a man of the world.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Yeah, it's like I have a vessel. There's any man,
Marcus plus to hear. Yes, I have something I want
to bring to the group.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Go ahead. There are pop stars, let's just say pop stars,
or they're just artists that are either portals or mirrors.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
M that is beautiful. That is absolutely beautiful. And I
can tell you who's a portal and who's a mirror.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Beyonce's a portal. Taylor Swift is a mirror. There you go.
I think you're right. Beyonce transports you somewhere, brings you
somewhere into a new experience. Taylor Swift is about relatability,
is about reflecting the audience back at them. Yeah, yeah,
I do think that there is a case to be
made for Katy Perry is mirror. Katy Perry is a mirror.
Katy Perry's music exists to make you feel a certain way,

(01:28:10):
whereas you listen to like some of these other artists
and it's like this exists mostly as an artistic expression. Yes, yes,
that is very beautiful, and I think there is We
need to get you a doctor. I'm going to say
there's validity in both. Of course, there's validity in both.
One is not better than the other, No of course,
I do think that when people were talking about, like,
oh what was better, like the Renaissance tour or the aerostour,

(01:28:32):
and I was like, I think I can't pinpoint why
they're not equally different and valid because one was a
mirror experience and one was a portal experience.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
Yeah, yeah, yes, I think there's definitely room for both.
I think mirrors comfort us and portals propel us.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
Yes, and they're both necessary. That's really good. But sometimes
mirrors can scare us the most soaken portal portal sometimes
you need, and sometimes dot dot dot mirrors can scare
us through. That's a very like Desperate Housewives absolutely eaty

(01:29:12):
punches the medicine cabinet mirrors. We use them to take
a look before we leave the house, to check out
husband's tie, before he leaves the house, to inspect some
pescima scara in the corner of our eye. Yes, mirrors
comfort us, assuring us of our own image. But what

(01:29:35):
if a mirror showed us what was never there? Oh
my god, I'm let me tell you something. I am
rewatching Desperate Housewives now, Oh my god, I want to
do it. Where's Alfred Woodard? She's working? But I want
to see. I would imagine books somewhere. Yeah, no, she
is I checked Betty apple White. Betty apple White, what

(01:29:58):
a name? Well, Julio, this is your fourth time on
last coach. This is it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
We're so grateful. This is it, This is it no more,
this is me now, this is Did you watch that?

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Yes? I did last night? You actually did? I did
last night? What did you think? We just need your abridge?
Take on? This is me now compelling? Okay, although hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
I'm gonna leave everybody on this. I can't tell if
Jalo is a portal or a mirror.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
She's a mirror. Jayla is a mirror, and this is
meat now aspired to be a portal, Yes, of course.
But I don't myself in Jlo, Like I don't know
what you don't do. It's not for you to see
yourself and Jlo. But if you do see yourself in Jlo,
you really you really see yourself in Jalo? Yeah? Right, Okay.
It's the thing of like, are you a fragrance or

(01:30:49):
viting in water? What? You know? What I mean? It's
that thing. Are you Sarahn? Okay? Stomping to door? Are
you Jennifer water Y? I see. Yeah, amazing, we need both.
Zendia is both interesting. I don't think Zendaya is vitamin water,
is she? I think Zendia is like all of it

(01:31:11):
in her heart is the Disney girl, and she kind
of can't. She'll never like totally escape that, no matter
how artistically and critically successful she is, Like she'll always
be a little bit like one second away from like Sketchers,
it's the s. What is that that you just said?

(01:31:31):
Skechers is the S. Yeah, that's sort of a shoe
campaign for doing a Sketcher's commercial. Yeah, got it. That's interesting,
Like we haven't escaped the world where it's like zendeiya
for spearmint gum, you know what I mean? Like, probably
not soon.

Speaker 3 (01:31:46):
Well, okay, here's what I'll say is I did not
know she was a Disney star.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
She has shake it out. Doesn't that change things a
little bit? Well no, but I'm saying is I was
not seeing her through that lens and it was perfectly satisfied.
She's a sended that for sure. Yeah, she's the most
crossover mirror portal person we have currently. M Wow. Interesting
she's a mirror portal. She's a mere mirror portal. She's

(01:32:11):
what Lana del Rey would call glass spaceship.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
I love that and Lana's a portal through and through, Yes, yeah, portal. Well,
much to discuss with infinite people when we come back,
come back, our eight of La.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
I'll be right back Fantasmas. It's out on June seventh,
June seventh on HBO on HBO, but you watch it
vio HBO, Max I think is well it's Max.

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
Oh sorry, I'm so sorry, Yes, sorry Love, Sorry, David
kisses Love, Sorry, David Cases, David Kisses Love.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
It's actually a real coachre number ninety nine. Sorry, David Love. Well,
this has been a joy, delight and more. We and
every episode of song Oh that you sing? Yes, got it?
Okay to end it there, Bye bye bye. Last Culture

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