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Speaker 1 (00:42):
So that's Monday in June third, twenty twenty four, coming up.
I've wrote mor gun filter streaming live on the Black
Starting Network Minnesota. DA says she can't prove a state
trooper use unnecessary force when he killed a black motorist,
so she dropped the murder chartist would talk with the
attorney representing Ricky Copps family. Texas Congosolman Sheela Jackson Lee
announces she is battling pancreatic cancer.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Will give you those details.
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Also, the co chairs of Harvard's Legacy or Slavery Memorial
Project Committee have resigned, alleging at the university has been
interfering with their work. The us quot appeals with the
Eleventh Circuit stopping the Fearless Fund from handing out grants
to black, black female entrepreneurs. Plus we'll explain why Trump's
election interfairs triveal in Georgia would not happen before November election.
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Plus Senator Tim Scott continues his lying ways. I'll also
show you what took place in Tulsa for the Black
Wall Street Legacy.
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Festival on Saturday.
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It's trying to bring the phone roll upout unfiltered on
the black SI network, let's go Scott on top of
its politics.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
He's going.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
It's he's by specially's.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Built up question. No, he's boven.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Minnesota DA has dropped murder charges against the state trooper
who shot a black Motorers doing the traffic stop on
in January. Hennepe County Attorney Mary Moriarty charge of Trooper
Ryan Launagred with second degree unintentional murdered, second degree manslaughter,
and first degree assault the July thirty first, twenty twenty
three death of Ricky Cobb.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
The second This is what she announced.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Landragan's attorneys said he would testify to was that he
thought mister Cobb was reaching for his gun, Landragan's gun.
That's something that they had never said.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Before, never told us before. So we went back and
we looked at the video.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Over and over in slow motion, and what you can
see from the video is that mister Cobb's hand at
some point does come up. My guess, by the way,
is that because Landragan opened the door, pointed the gun
at him and started screaming at him, that his hand
was coming up to protect himself. But the video doesn't
prove that, and it doesn't disprove what Landragan says. One
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of the other things that I think is of note
of what Landragan's lawyers say he would testify to, is
that is this.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
If you slow down.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
The video, you will be able to see and I
think at some point we'll be able to release this.
Society reaches into the car and he is essentially draped
across mister Cobb trying.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
To unbuckle the seatbelt.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
What Landragen's lawyers said he would testify to is that
in that split second, he realized his partner was draped
over mister Cobb, and he carefully fired two shots into
mister Cobb's torso so that he wouldn't hit his partner. Now,
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as to the believability of that, I won't comment.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Jonathan's daz cop I attorney, Harry Daniels from Atlanta. Harry
Atlanta had on the shelf. So your thoughts and this decision.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Thank you Roth for having on this decision is ridiculous.
What the county disc attorney stated County attorney stated actually
really really makes the case even stronger from a prosecutorial
standpoint of long Ergan's attorney said that he carefully and
intentionally shot into the side of mister Cobb at the
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time his partner's reaching over the reaching over mister CoP's body.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Then it really goes to the to the the element
of intentional and kind of premeditated. Uh. Now the two
positions don't match. He said he thought that Ricky was
reaching for his gun. Well, you can see from the
video log Agan is outside of the car on the
passenger's side. Ricky's is in the in the driver's side seat.
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There was no lunging, no reaching whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Roland.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
All you have here is a county attorney who's succumbed
to political pressure from law enforcement and gave in, essentially
allowed a murderer to get away because she was afraid
to prosecute the case once the heat and from the
outside political uh paused to be start putting pressure on her.
At the end of the day, she's a politician. You're
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looking at job security.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
And what we have again is another black man here
in America shot and killed unjustified by law enforcement, with
no accountability. This is no strangers to the state of Minnesota.
You look at you can look at Orlando Castile where
it was a quitto. You look at Dante Wright, where
the person who shot and killed him was only given
in two years in prison got out in a year
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that almost less, almost a little bit over a year.
So there's no justice, no accountability when it comes to
black lives in this country. This is a shame the
county attorney when I went up, when I went and
spoke with her directly, I had reservations, concerns as to
whether she was truthful in her position. When I say truthful,
that they believe that that they were going to prost
this cap to the full instead of the law. Now
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you have a position where where she has made it
one to eighty and nothing has changed. When I say changed,
the video is still the same. The mere fact that
the killer makes a declaration of statements, and even in
her statement it goes to the credibility of him and Rolands.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
You're talking about credibility.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
The only people determined credibility court of laws, of jury.
It's not a judge, it's not a lawyer's as a jury.
If you had an issue with credibility, you sent it
to a jury.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Let the jury decide.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
That's what happened in New York with Donald Trump, and
let the jury decide it, and they determined he had
no credibility. But when it come to black lives in
this country killed by law enforcement, uh don't even get
the benefit of the doubt to even go to court
and reach a jury.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Now, this is one of several charges, and so this
is one that could have gone to the jury and
the jury could have just chosen to hear it and
equipped or find them guilty.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So she didn't have to actually drop it.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
No, she didn't had to drop this charge.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
She didn't have to drop the charges at all.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
And you know, and it's not a here's the thing
ice criminal defense lawyer. So I understand well dealing cases
and defending cases this case here, when you take a
approach in a position to charge a case with the
charges she brought with voluntary and unintentioned to murder and
reckless conduct and intentional assault, then you feel as though
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that the situation itself rulan. When they're talking about policy,
you don't need a policy. The policy is not important.
When you're talking about the law. The law says you
don't shoot an unknowned person that's not a threat. There's
no justification. They teach you that in grade school that
you don't hit a person in the back. Here we're
talking about what a policy did to say, specifically that
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he cannot use a deadly forced to attract a person.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
From the car.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
What the hell is that you can't use a deadly
weapon to get a person out the car if that
person is not a threat to you.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Others.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
There's no law enforcement instruction manual is needed to have
to have you have morals and good dignity and morality
when it comes to humanity. So this attorney, the county attorney,
she gave in to the political pressure, She gave in
to the police union. She was bullied. She hired these
I said lawyers. I don't know exactly out of these
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I saw lawyers. And essentially it was a It was
a sham where you're dealing with a case where you
quickly and I'm gonna say quickly, they took their time
to range these charges. Then all of a sudden, the
defendant says, oh, I did this because of this. What
hell we expect the defendant say he did this because
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of this. I have never had a case will we
prosecutor had a case with police officers who said they
did it because they always going to give a reason.
The question is is an incredible reason. Even in her
own statement press Comps to day, she felt it was incredible.
So the end of the day, I think the person
lose today is obviously the coll family. But most important,
this county attorney looked like a joke. If they felt
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like the long again was not responsible for the death
for Ricky Cobb about virtue of criminal violation of laws,
they should have never charged him. But when you take
this approach to charge somebody, then you get political pressure,
then you do it one eighty. It's sad. It's a
sad day America, and I feel for the cop family.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Our hairy Daniels.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Well, we will certainly continue to follow this case and
hopefully we won't see other charges dropped.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Yeah, let's say this. We're also moving forward in our
civil case. This case is not done for the long Way,
myself and the car sellers. We expetition of Department of
Justice to take a thorough review of this case. And
this case civili is still moving forward. So the disc attorney,
I want to do a job. At least we would
we would do ours. So thanks for Roland, thanks for
having me home.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Man Herod appreciate it. Thanks a lot. All right, folks,
got to go to the break.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
We come back.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
We're going to talk about the Harvard Slavery Legacy Project.
While to professors have actually resigned from that project.
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I'm doctor Vernad Hodges and I'm doctor Terrence Ferguson, and
you're tuning into Roland Martin UNFICHU. The two Harvey University
professors overseeing the creation of a public memorial dedicated to
the enslave people who helped shape the Ivy League institution
have resigned as co chairs of the memorial committee. English
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professor Frasie K. Smith and the director of the university's
Carpenter Center Lavillio Arts. Dan Byers were appointed in February
twenty twenty three to lead the thirteen member committee. In
their resignation letters with the Buyers say they stepped down
over frustrations with senior Harvard administrators who try to rush
their process to all parties involved and invested in the
work of the HNLS Memorial Committee. I hope this letter
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files you each well and safe during this long seal
of upheaval. Having come to the end of the academic year,
Dan Byers and I are writing to elaborate on our
recent decision to step down as co chairs of the
Harvard and the Legacy Slavery Memorial Committee, on which we
have served since its inception of Vember twenty second, twenty
twenty two.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
This decision, which neither of us.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Takes lightly, extends from our sense that the necessary conditions
for the work of amortalization has agreed upon by committee members,
are not yet manifest at the university. Based on our
discussions with committee members in recent weeks, together, we offer
suggestions on how the Memorial Committee might adopt a more
fruitful shift. In course, the Memorial Committee was asked to
undertake this important and complex work and has done so capably, expertly, diligently,
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and content interest leap. Several of us are faculty members
and fields of history, art, film and visual studies, theater,
dance and media, Urban design, English and African and African
American studies. Several campus curators, writers, practicing artists, librarians, and
program directors who's working gags with the very communities most
profoundly touched by histories of enslavement and dispossession. Our everyday
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experience of Harvard is shaped by forms of awareness key
to the work of an organization and keenly attuned to
disparities and limitations long ingrained and institutions like universities bomb
line is this here?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Look?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
They make it clear that it's just way too much
interferienced by the administration. One of my pound out to
Julia Marvold pressure that he mayor have been in college
Julius right now from DCMA, Congo dibinga senior prophecerial lecture School,
International Service, American University, Rnita Shennan, former Jordius representative, Juliana
go with you. Look, anytime you got something like this
in one of these predominantly white institutions and you've got
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black folks over it. You're gonna have folks if you're
trying to put their hands in all of this and
muck the whole thing up.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Plus you've got a Harvard still dealing with all the.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Drama over Israel and dolls and like other ivy institutions.
And so these folks clearly like you know what, we're good.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
Well, you know, Harvard it was really never serious about
dealing with the slave legacy. They never were really serious
about it. There have been complaints about Harvard over the
years from the law school, from other places about their
position on enslavement, about the role that enslavement has played
on Harvard's legacy. And they never ever, ever really been serious.
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And so these two folks had enough. I mean, this
is the this is the living. They had enough. They
had some things. That idea is they want to address
some of this, and the university, as you say, correctly,
had other things to deal with. But that's not the point.
I mean, you're supposed to be able to multitask, not
to mention the fact that and I'm wondering what the
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role that the departure of doctor Claudie Gay as president
had in this was there less or more enthusiasm because
of her departure.
Speaker 9 (15:10):
But all I would say is that the climate that.
Speaker 8 (15:14):
We live in right now anti dei, anti blackest climate
that we live in right now.
Speaker 9 (15:20):
And I know we're going to talk about some of
that later.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
In the program, but basically, it gives people permission to
be indifferent. So it's really easy to set up a commission,
to set up a task force. So now you did that,
you checked that box. Now what are you going to
do about it? I think that these people had ideas,
and I think that they were rebuffed, and I think
they absolutely had enough.
Speaker 9 (15:41):
They were working for two years.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
Two years is a long time in academics speak to
not even have have a.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
Report come out. Who's the press report? What's the issue?
Speaker 4 (15:53):
So that's why I stand.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Look on Congo, when you have this, you're gonna have
a thousand folks trying to put theirs and stuff. And
so that's how I see this. I mean, it's a
long as statement they released. I give me the cliff
note version that is too much interference, too many cooks
in the kitchen.
Speaker 10 (16:13):
Yeah, and one of the things, you know, like you said,
it's lengthy in terms of what they were saying, well,
one of the things that struck me was that they
felt that Harvard was slowballing their efforts of these two
and then the committee in general to build relationships with
the community of Cambridge and Boston. As somebody who's you know,
both my parents got their doctors from Harvard. My dad
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helped start the Divoice Center there and help revolutionize the
Divinity School. We have a long history of being involved
and around that university and just being a native Bostonian.
There's always been tension with the idea that you know,
Harvard doesn't really see itself as part of the community,
particularly as relates to the black people of Boston. And
so I was very happy that these two individuals and
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I commend them for their great or commented on that
because it's really important. What we're seeing again is Harvard
is caving into this DEI backlash, and it's extremely problematic
because it was making some really good strides as it
relates to building community relations and actually making sure that
people who are in the surrounding areas felt like Harvard
could be you know, for them as well, even if
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they weren't you know, university you know members in any
way shape or form, and so this is a setback
for the community relations that Harvard was trying to build.
And I quite frankly believe that with the relationships that
these two individuals have supported within the local Boston community,
there's going to be local backlash to just as well.
It's not just something that's going to stay within the
Harvard campus itself in terms of the frustration and backlash,
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and so I'm very interested to see how Harvard is
going to respond to that as well.
Speaker 11 (17:49):
The two that resigned, they did release a very long statement,
but there were some key facts in their long statement
that I do think everybody should, you know, face some
attention to. One of them is that they said that
while they were working on the project, they were pressured
to sort of do as much media as possible around
the project, but then they were discouraged from Harvard leadership
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as far as taking the time to build relationships with
the local community members. And so that is something that's
really important because we know as black folks, you try
to do a project about that doesn't actually include us,
we will quickly embarrass you once the project is complete.
And so these two were trying to do it in
a way that was respectful to the community and was
respectful of the project, and that's not what Harvard wanted.
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I think the thing too that is really important to
notice here because this is a trend and you're hearing
DEI professionals across the country say this.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
What these two professors are.
Speaker 11 (18:40):
Actually saying what happened to them, which is that it's
a lot of window dressing going on. When institutions are
saying we're doing something to memorialize or to make right
to a step in racial justice, they essentially want the
credit and that's what comes with the lifting it up
to the media. They want the credit, but they don't
want the actual, real tough work that goes on making
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amends to actually happen.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Let's talk about this trial in Georgia, the Trump trial.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
It's not gonna have it for the election.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Georgia Court of Appeals has made sure that by setting
in October fourth date to hear the appeal of the
refusal to disqualify DA finding willis from the case. Judge
Scott McAfee denied the joint motion of Trump and other
Code offendans on a pri fourth Trump appealed his ruling
and the Court of Appeals eventually agreed to accept the appeal.
Judge McAfee ordered that patri preach out motions and discovery
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should continue while that appeal is pending. Still, with the
Appeals Court setting oral arguments so far out, there's no
possible way this case will go to trial before the election.
The motions sought to disqualify Willis in her office from
prosecutor the case, and also, as the courtis dismissed the
indictment because of Willis's romantic relationship with Nathan Wade. The
Court will satisfied their relationship did not begin until after
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Wade started working for the DA's office. Although McAfee denied
for the fifth motion, he did order Way to be
removed from the case. Rema, this is I said this
from the outset, that this right here was an eraror
on the part of Fannie Willis and Nathan Wade. That
what we've seen in the past several months, this trial
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has been delayed because of that. Both of them should
have had enough sense to say this is going to
be a problem. You don't you don't create problems. You
try to be as clean as possible. And so now
as a result of this, this is not going to
trial this year. This one is on DA Fannie Willis.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Rita, Absolutely, I agree.
Speaker 11 (20:43):
You know, the Trump lawyers there attacked at the entire time,
has been that they want to do anything they can
to delay the trial going because they know that once
we have the election, if Trump is elected, he can
make all of this goal away.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
So their whole tactics have been delayed.
Speaker 11 (20:58):
Delayed, delay, they file a PEE when they know they
have no shot of winning them, which I think is
what this is. But it does of the purpose that
they want, which is to delay this as much as
possible so that there will not be a decision, no
trial can be held before the presidential election.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
So I agree with you.
Speaker 11 (21:13):
This is a case that I've continue to pay a
lot of attention to because I was in the committee
in the room when the Trump lawyers came before my
committee and asked us to throw out the votes of
Georgians and try to basically steal a presidential election, which
is what they're basically charged with, inego indictment that Finnie
Willis did.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
So I do think that I agree with you Roland.
Speaker 11 (21:32):
It was a complete misstep by the DA to allow
herself to sort of give them something to work with
in just delaying this trial.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
She served up with a super planner on the congo,
pure and simple.
Speaker 10 (21:46):
Yeah, it's frustrating, man.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
And to see this happen.
Speaker 10 (21:49):
To also see what the Just Apartment did as it
relates to taking fourteen months to bring up their case
against Trump, like him and his lawyers take every advantage
they can. And yes, this is something that lays at
the hand of Finnie Willis. You can't you can't slip
up as relates to these guys because they exploit.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Every single thing.
Speaker 10 (22:06):
And so to be quite honest, I know these are
state partising but it's kind of like, you know, I
hate to agree with Don Junior or whichever is. Trump
said that Sun said that the November election is really
going to be the time for the ultimate verdict. Like,
we can't depend on these trials to deliver anything for us. Yes,
we can call them a convicted fella now and we're
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going to see what happens on July eleventh. But still
we have to continue to stay vigilant because too many
of us put our faith in these trials and these
attorneys and these different states, and it's just not enough
to stop this man. November fifth, that is the date
for the final verdict on Donald Trump.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Jill absolutely, I mean, I'm so disappointed in my sore.
Fanny Willis is so disappointed in her lack of judgment.
But it is what it is and moving forward. And
as Ridita said, spokes basically delayed, delayed, delayed the ninety
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ninety nine We're even seeing it with the New York case.
We've seen it with the Florida case where the judge
is one of the man's appointees and she has thrown
everything in but the kitchen sink.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
We see it in the DC case.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
We see it in the Supreme Court pondering whether or
not he has blanket immunity for any crime he commits,
which she asserted in twenty sixteen that he had when
he said he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and
get away with it.
Speaker 9 (23:33):
So heady Willis played into their hands.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
You know, the heart ones, but the heart ones for
the heart could have waited for it, because frankly, basically,
as I think Ma Congo said, she served herself up
on the silver platter. I don't wish to dist the
sister or you know, throw under the bus, but This
was a huge tactical error, and taking it to October
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fourth means this will not be heard until after the election.
Now this does say one thing, though, If y'all want justice,
I say y'all because there's some of y'all people out.
Speaker 9 (24:08):
There who you know, I'm not going to vote.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
You know, I don't like Biden, which is stupidity. It's
compounded stupidity. And if you've had about it, we call
you stupid. Julia Malbow at aol dot com, you stupid.
Because basically this will not be adjudicated any place at
the ballot.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Box, folks.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Sports sports commentator Colin coward Man did he tear into Trump?
And look, here's a guy who was a conservative Republican
and he had a whole lot to say about the
Orange ones.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
This that one.
Speaker 12 (24:43):
You know, I've said this about Trump before. He's trying
to sell me in America that doesn't exist. Let's say
I got busted for some really bad crime in court,
a drug crime, and my wife did too in a
separate case, and then so did one of my kids,
my manager, my agent, and my attorney. It would be
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reasonable to conclude that I'm shady and involved in a
business that's not terribly legal. Well, Donald Trump is now
a felon. His campaign chairman was a felon. So is
his deputy campaign manager, his personal lawyers, chief strategist, his
national security advisor, his trade advisor, his foreign policy advisor,
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his campaign fixer, and his company CFO. They're all felons,
judged by the company you keep. It's a cabal of convicts.
So it's not that I'm not willing to vote for conservatives.
I said I would have voted for Mitt Romney seemed
like a decent family man. I liked the second Bush,
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George Bush senior son.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I liked him.
Speaker 12 (25:52):
I thought he was a decent American, a decent human.
I liked his wife, Laura Bush. I thought they were
decent people. If everybody in your social circle is a felon,
I don't think it's rigged. I don't think the world's
against you. And to get people to agree on anything,
thirty four counts, oh for thirty four, I mean that's
a batting slump. Even the New York Mets could be
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impressed with, oh for thirty four. When you're constantly trying
to sell me on an America that I don't see
I'm not saying inflation is not an issue. But I
get on airplanes all the time, and it's not a
bunch of rich people I get on planes. There's people
in normal clothes that don't look rich to me. And
the planes are all full, and the hotels are all full,
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and the freeways are all full. That means people are
going to work. You're trying to sell me on this story,
in this narrative that's just not true. Trump's entire game
plan is the country isn't a free fall. But when
everybody in your team, everybody in your group, your cabal,
is a felon, maybe maybe the world's not against you.
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Stop trying to sell me on. Everything's rigged. The country's
falling into the sea. The economy is terrible. The economy
is okay, it's not like on fire. But the America
that I live in is imperfect. But compared to the
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rest of the world, I think we're doing okay.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I'm a congo cabal of convicts.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
I was gonna bring that one up too.
Speaker 10 (27:33):
And Yo, this is what is needed to be quite honest,
because you know where people here who are watching are
pretty much baked in.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
People who may watch MSNBC might be baked.
Speaker 10 (27:43):
In in terms of who, you know, how they view Trump,
but it's going to be guys like this, you know,
who are conservative leaning but also have a reach in
the sports world that are going to also help turn
the tide, you know, and reach out to some of
those independent voters. You know, this is still by election
to lose, and you know, Trump keeps losing more and
more support, but if people like him. I love what
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George Conway did on CNN over the weekend when he
called out, you know, one of the commentators. He said,
I can't believe CNN is paying you, you know, the
way that you're just lying about you know, these types
of things.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
This is what it's going to take.
Speaker 10 (28:16):
Republicans against Trump, keep coming, keep coming hard. And again
it's not about, you know, whether we all agree with
one hundred percent, but it's like, do we want to
be able to have more elections after November fifth? And
he called the plain and clear that people are working,
people are traveling. This is the basic idea of America
that Trump's people are trying to sell his followers against.
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And the fact that Calvert is speaking up against this.
There needs to be more like him following his lead,
and this is going to be part of how we
deliver that final verdict on November fifth.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
You know, it's interesting to hear this.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
This guy is really on point and the cabal of
what I wrote it down, Bob would use it is
a wonderful literation. But it's more than that.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
Here's what we know.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
Looking attack on Larry Hogan. I'm not a Larry Hogan
fan whatsoever. He's always kind of played in narrow the
candidate Republican candidate for the United States Senate. He's always
kind of tried to be missed a bipartisan and so
he said something quite bild. I think that people should
respect the jury. And what he gets back to the
RNC is that's to campaign. Basically, they are a cabal
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and they're demanding absolute loyalty, absolute unfettered blind loyalty to
the Orange man who doesn't deserve it.
Speaker 13 (29:39):
And what we see, I mean, I didn't think they
were going to get thirty four. I figured they're gonna
budget and maybe they get like twenty out of thirty four,
just because I just didn't figure the whole jury.
Speaker 9 (29:49):
But if you got one, you got all.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
Of it, because there was a pattern in practice, and
so now you basically have these folks who want to
make excuses. What's his the Orange man said, you know,
it's basically his constituents.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
Aren't going to be happy. Well, they never been happy.
They like him?
Speaker 8 (30:09):
What about that would make you happy? And so basically
what we have here is a situation where loyalty is
going to lead us over the cliff. That's really what's
going on. But again, always we all know it's November fifth,
and what we have to do if we oppose that
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man's organized in such a way kind of narrow victory,
is that one point or two point and it's a
resounding victory so that there is no question, no question,
Then he lost to the loss, to the loss, to
the loss. That's the work for those people like Natasha
and Melany, the sisters who out there doing the work.
Speaker 9 (30:52):
The brother's not out there to work. That's the work
we have to do.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
We have to make sure it's resounding the feet for
the Orange Manna.
Speaker 11 (31:02):
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see a lot of these
folks that are talking right now what they actually will
do in November, because, as we well know, conservatives have
a history. You know, we've been going back to before
twenty sixteen, but let's just say twenty sixteen with Trump
of saying bad things about him and saying that, you know,
they don't like what he's saying or doing, and then
they turn right around and vote for him. So these
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comments are entertaining. It's interesting what Colin said, But I
do think that for anybody who does not want to
see trumpel liked it, please don't rest on your laurels
with these comments, because a lot of these people will
turn around and.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Just vote for Trump.
Speaker 11 (31:35):
I do think one thing that he said is actually
good for resetting the goalposts, because so many have said
and Trump keeps saying this too, that the official verdict
on the New York charges that the felties that he
was just convicted of, the official ruling will be in November.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
And that's not how it works. We have a criminal
justice system.
Speaker 11 (31:54):
A decision was made, the decision stands until another decision
is made in court. And so for everybody else, particularly
black Americans in this country, who have been convicted in
a court of law, it doesn't matter how many people
think you are innocent. You're convicted until there is another decision.
So I do think We need to get back to
that he.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Has been convicted of these felonies.
Speaker 11 (32:14):
It doesn't matter if everybody in the world disagrees with
the decision of what happened, the jury's decision.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
The decision is a decision.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Indeed. Indeed, and.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Every time Sarat Tim Scott opens his mouth, I just
see he and go, oh my goodness, I've never seen
somebody kiss more trump ass outside of Eric and Donald Jr.
He is desperate to be Trump's vice president. Listen to
the sheer bs, he uttered on Fox News.
Speaker 14 (32:48):
Can he create jobs for the poorest Americans? Good news
is he created more than seven million jobs, with the
highest percentage going to women, African Americans, Hispanics, and Asians.
What we know about four years under Donald Trump is
we had low unemployment, low inflation, high enthusiasm, law and
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order in our streets, and we've had the exact opposite
under Joe Biden.
Speaker 9 (33:19):
I'm sorry, I don't mean laught.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
First of all. First of all, first of all, let's
get some basic facts.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Six million jobs under Trump, thirteen million jobs under Biden.
Crime is going down, it was going up under Trump.
Then you hear all this, oh yeah, low inflation. Then
of course you had this idiot completely bungled to COVID.
All right, we saw what happened there as well. They're
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all lies. Oh, Mark Cuban even broke this down. How
all of these Republicans are talking about, Oh, how Biden
is destroying They're all industry. Oh I'm sorry, they never
produced this much of oil in the United States.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Ever. That's another lie. That's out of the window. Oh,
Wagers going up higher on the box. I mean, jummi on.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
It's lie after lie after lie. When it comes to
the economic numbers, it really is.
Speaker 9 (34:19):
I mean, the numbers are there.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
The Bureau of Labor Statistics is an impartial Most of
the people who work there are career employees. They have
no reason to budge the numbers for Biden, for Trump,
or for anybody else. The numbers tell the story.
Speaker 9 (34:33):
As you said, six million jobs under dump and thirteen.
Speaker 8 (34:38):
Million under President Biden. Unemployment rate were under President Biden,
then under the Orange Man. We can go down the
list of the one issue the sticky we can, of
course is inflation, and of course a bunch of that
can be attributed to COVID, but in place is coming down.
As the commentator of the conservative commentator says, they're trying
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to tell a story of America that just does not exist.
You know, the crime down we can do. We need
to just go down the list. Things are better now
for people at the bottom, they're not that much better.
And you, perhaps or somebody else can explain black men
to me. I've never been able to figure it out.
But those brothers who keep saying they're going to vote
for Trump, and you know, Terres Woodberry another said, said.
Speaker 9 (35:22):
Those numbers may not be accurate.
Speaker 8 (35:24):
The bottom line is Tim Scott is not only a liar,
he's a blade liar. He is, like I said, if
his looks were not brown, you can see the feces
running off of him, because that's how much behind he
likes to kiss, just to make sure that the Orange
Man considers him for vice president.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
But what does he bring to the ticket? Nothing? What
does he bring to the table nothing.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
There is something wrong with that brother, but there's been
something wrong with him for a very long time, as
we all know.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
And again, you're not going to get a pushback on
Fox News, Ronita, because they lie constantly, right, and.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I think it's time for this.
Speaker 11 (36:05):
You ain't got to lie Craig, you ain't got to lie,
and Tim Scott, you know it's time for that for
him because he is always coming up with these fantasy
scenarios of what he thinks is happening, and all.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Of it always in support of Trump.
Speaker 11 (36:17):
The reality is, at the end of the day, voters
do not care what statistics actually shows that he's wrong
on his facts.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
But even if he was correct, voters don't care about
any of that.
Speaker 11 (36:26):
Voters look at how they think and feel about how
far their money is going.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
So if you feel that they are able.
Speaker 11 (36:33):
To work forty hours a week and pay for basics,
then they feel the economy is great. Voters do not
go and say, oh, let me see what an economist
said about the economy to tell me how I should
feel about it. That's just not what voters do. They
look at how are they getting along, what is their
quality of life? How hard are they having to work
to pay for the basics? So why he come up
and just tell these lies that are easily things that
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can be fact checked and disputed.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I just sit here and I'm like, dude, just stop lying.
And on the congo it's just like constantly and then
he was like, oh my good, there's blacks running over
to the republic No, they're not. Black folks are now
running over to Don and.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
And now the Republicans are trying this other lie that
oh they're gonna start using his vert his criminal conviction
as a way to appeal to black people. Oh so
what they're saying is black people you're feelings.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Exactly.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
And if anybody falls think that's gonna work, I got
a bridge.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I want to tell you.
Speaker 10 (37:36):
Look the way that they are using him and Byron
Donalds and these other guys to get out there and
be these surrogates and just get out there and flat
out lie.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
It's it's sad.
Speaker 10 (37:45):
What's also really sad is that the people who need
to hear that these guys are lying are most likely
not going to see that truth unless they do hear
from the you know, calling cowards of the world because they're.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Not paying attention to us.
Speaker 10 (37:58):
But the fact of the matter is, as we can
continue to plug away and challenge just not only misinformation
but disinformation about the Trump versus Biden economy, it's also
very important that we make sure that we point out
the fact that Biden's economy is better than Trump's pre
COVID because they always want to throw out the whole
thing about well COVID, and that's what led to the
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reduced reduction in these numbers of unemployment econ, that's not true.
Trump is being doing worse than Biden before COVID, and
that's extremely important. And so at every measure, there's no
many inflation stealing issue as doctor Malvosta, but every measure
Biden is beating. And then particularly as it relates to
the black community issues relating to diabetes, we can talk
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about student loans. I saw doctor r West Belamie last
week talking about how his loans got canceled. I mean,
there are so many diabetes There's so many stories we
can be telling that can refute what people are saying
about what Trump's doing, and not in the grand scale.
We can bring it down to personal things that are
happening in our community that our community, these are actually
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seeing results of right now, and we'll be seeing as
the munsk go forward. And we've got to keep hammering
that home because they're going to keep hammering these lies
and Fox is part of the problem as always.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
And the lies will come fast and the furious all right, folks.
Next door the Level Circuit Court of Appeals, they are
blocking the Fearless Fund from awarding twenty thousand dollars grants
to businesses owned by black women.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Of the cases being litigated.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Conservative activists Ed Bloom claimed that the grant program is
likely rachel discriminatory. The Pills Court, in a two to
one decision, disagree with the federal judge who ruined September
the lawsuit was unlikely to prevail on First Amendment grounds.
The Atlanta firm was working to boost scarce adventure capital
funding for black women. The ruling could have sweeping implications
for race pays and initiatives in the private sector. What
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we have here, Julian on this particular issuear and this
was interesting. What these white conservatives are doing is they're
using the eighteen sixty six Civil Rights Act, which was
meant to benefit black folks.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
They're using this, they weaponize this against black people.
Speaker 8 (40:04):
It's highly ironic that they would be doing this to
use something that empowered us to disempower us.
Speaker 9 (40:10):
It's highly ironical. The other piece of this is these
people are so ahistoric they do not get it. In
other words, why do you need a.
Speaker 8 (40:18):
Fearless fund because black women got less than one percent
of the venture.
Speaker 9 (40:24):
Capital dollars that were available.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
Why was that not because their proposals were faulty, but
because of structural discrimination. So their denying discrimination and then
claiming discrimination against white people. Now, they're not saying that
a fund that benefits of women, let's say, would be discriminatory.
Speaker 9 (40:45):
They're not saying that a college.
Speaker 8 (40:47):
Scholarship that says for Irish descendants will be discriminatory. Their
anti blackness reeks it actually reeks of their hate of
black people, and Rolla, you've written about it, and you
or white fear and many of us have been looking
at this. But the bottom line is we could just
go back to the end of reconstruction. Whenever black people
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make games, white people are sitting in the cunt prepared
to take them back, don't. We're see here so young
black women, amazing sisters who said we want to empower
some black women entrepreneurs.
Speaker 9 (41:22):
What's wrong with that? What's wrong with it? As these hateful, evil, ignorant, ahistorical.
Speaker 8 (41:28):
White people are like, oh, but that's distributed to it,
as if our whole existence.
Speaker 9 (41:33):
In this country has not been discriminatory.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Rinda.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Yeah, so this is just a preliminary injunctions.
Speaker 11 (41:40):
I think that's important for everybody to realize is that
basically before anything has really gone to court, a court
has basically made a preliminary ruling.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
So the fight is not over, and so you know, folks,
don't give up.
Speaker 11 (41:51):
The other thing that I think is important to look
at with this is, like doctor Malveaux said, I'll take
it a step further. This is not the only type
of organization that is like this to specifically lift up
communities that are consistently overlooked.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Sometimes it's funds to support women.
Speaker 11 (42:06):
In this case, it's funds to support black women, and
that has always looked at as a First Amendment sort
of way of using your voice is by giving money
to certain groups. And so I do hope that eventually
the Fearless Fund will prevail in court, because there has
not been a ruling like this that specifically says that
this is not freedom of speech for at least one
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hundred and fifty years. So this is a preliminary injunction,
and I'm hoping that the final decision that we'll see
will actually reflect that this is a freedom of This
is a first Amendment right for the Fearless.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Fund to operate.
Speaker 10 (42:39):
I'm micall, Look, Melinda Frenchgates just decided that she's going
to give over a billion dollars to support organizations that
help with the advancement of women, including in organizations that's
censoring around. I think it's called the American Censor for
Men for boys or something like that, to help, you know,
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become better and stronger so that they don't, you know,
hurt women in many particular ways. I don't see Blumming
them coming out against her. Why Because she's rich and
powerful and influential. These guys are using their influence in
the same way that they did to go against affirmative
action to target smaller groups that just don't have the
financial wherewithal to be able to put up an instant block,
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and so not a Fearless Fun has to spend more
resources in court, more time on lauriers, and they're going
to do what they can and try to break this
organization and so, but they are very selective, and so
you're going against race.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
But if you can get a too fer go against in.
Speaker 10 (43:35):
That target's race as well as women, then this is
this is the conservative dream as relates to people like Blumbing,
So we have to continue to raise awareness about this.
We need to continue to fight for this, and many
more organizations and individuals who are in our community and
have resources need to take the same time of that
that Melinda French Gates has taken in terms of using
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your money to in philanthropy to help build some of
these organizations as well, so that one day we wouldn't
even need a Fearless Fund. But until then we have
to keep fighting to make sure that their Fearless Fund
can keep its doors open and at other organizations that
do the same thing are not going to be sentence
to oblivion by organizations and people like Blum and the
Russols of the world.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Indeed, folks, On Saturday, it was one hundred and sixty
first anniversary of the raid in which Harriet Tubman helped
free more than seven hundred slaves in South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Well to Coon rate.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
This a monument of the Conductor of the Underground Railroad
was unveiled in Beeford, South Carolina, led more than seven
hundred slaves from low Country plantation to freedom. Born in
slave on the eastern shore of Maryland in eighteen twenty two.
Tubman is the best known conductor the underground Railroad that
she led at least seventy slaves in Maryland to freedom
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before the Civil War, but her work in South Carolina
during the Civil War often gets overlooked. The monument is
the first in the state, marking her daring June eighteen
sixty three mission along the Cumberheat River. And thank goodness
we have a monuments like this on a congo because
we get enough of the damn Confederate monuments all throughout
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this country, especially in the.
Speaker 10 (45:14):
South, absolutely, and they're going to be trying to put
up even more. And so it's really important, and particularly
coming off the story that we just talked about talking
about a fearless fun and here we're talking about a
fearless sister.
Speaker 9 (45:25):
Right.
Speaker 10 (45:25):
They never got it on the dollar, on the on
the money that people were talking about before. And so really,
when it comes to honoring our ancestors and people who
fought for us, you know, black people being freedom this
country made America better for everybody. And so when people
and you know, I've seen stories over the years, we've
seen it like you know, the whole Russell Simmons, Harrytubman
and slavery, skid and all of these things. You know,
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I feel like Harriet Tubman has been somebody who's been
kind of disrespected over the last few years. And so
when we talk about, you know, having these statues up
in these memorials, particularly out of time we're in South
Carolina and other places they're looking to remove for folks
with a little hit me that was already taught about her.
It's really high time that we continue to stand up.
And these efforts are not happening overnight. So I commend
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all of the people down there will put this together
because these statues and things can take years to happen,
and to not give up the fight in the era
of Trump and now this time right now when we
have Biden as president, but we have all of these
anti DEI efforts going on to still fight and make
that happen. I give them all the props in the world,
and I hope we continue to have more statues that
celebrate her and our ancestors who fought for our freedom.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
A lot of people don't realize there's a Hairy Tubman
museum Bear in Making, Georgia.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (46:35):
Absolutely, and I'm so glad to see this monument number one.
It's an amazing monument erected. I think we're used to
seeing just singular statues for monuments, and so I think
people are kind of used to that, but this thing
is so expansive.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
I mean, look at the back where you can see
all the people following.
Speaker 11 (46:49):
I mean, this is a monument that looks like it's
worth traveling just to see it, and so I'm excited
about that. The second thing is, like I always continue
to point out, is that things like this are so important.
Anytime you have a museum, as you mentioned the HARRYT.
Tubby Museum and you now have this monument, it's important
because in a time where states are removing our history
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and our story from the classroom, when you have monuments
up and things like this, it makes people ask questions, Okay,
who was Harriet Tubman? It forces history to be told,
and you know, and it forces us to talk about our.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
History which is being removed from schools.
Speaker 11 (47:28):
So I'm excited to see this, and I think that
we need more of this now more than ever, to
combat what's happening in schools.
Speaker 8 (47:35):
Really on I'm excited about this monument. I've always excited
about Harriet Tubbin. You know, there is not Harry Tubbin
House in Maryland, which I've visited several times, one time
just with a blank notebook saying since to give me
some inspiration.
Speaker 9 (47:52):
She was all that and then some.
Speaker 8 (47:54):
But the South Carolina Park, her legacy is often overlooked.
It's important that this my goes up. At the same
time that Virginia Governor what's his name, Youngkin is trying
to reverse laws that took some of those Confederate monuments down.
He wants them back up, and he's being very clear
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about it.
Speaker 9 (48:16):
So you know the history.
Speaker 8 (48:17):
They are attempting to erase our history. And this monument,
this glorious, large, substantial monument, is an anecdote to white lives.
It's just an antidote. What it says, we are here,
we did this, We have to keep doing this, We
have to keep building the immense statues. You know, the
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National African American Reparations Commission, on which I serve, has
a plank that says we want to commemorate like Brian
Stevenson at the Lynching Museum, basically.
Speaker 9 (48:54):
A plaque wherever.
Speaker 8 (48:55):
Somebody was lit so people remember that. People in Lyst
we need to see all. So the other thing about
the Harriet Tufcook, that's so exciting. There are very few
statues who women, and to black women in particular. Well
had very few statues to black people. Let's start there.
You got all the white boy has to do is
ride on the horse. They make a statue out of it.
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So there are very few statues to women, and two
black women and so this is just so very important,
and I agree with Rinia.
Speaker 9 (49:25):
The next time I have some spare change in a
few days, I probably go down there and look at
it myself.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
Well, some sad news came out on Sunday night when
Colling Homer Sheila Jackson Lee announced that she's been diagnosed
with pancreatic cancers undergoing treatment a seventy year or four
year issued a statement we actually I first saw her
when she was at the funeral of Reverend William Lawson
in Houston. I was there Friday before last and it
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was when I saw her, and when I heard her,
I mean, she normally has her very you know, booming
voice if you will, but it was a dramatic change
from the last time she was on our show. And
so in her statement, she actually made the announcement by saying,
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today my fight is more personal, but I will approach
with the same faith, in the same courage. My doctors
have confirmed my diagnoses of pink created cancer. I'm currently
undergoing treatment to battle this disease and impacts tens of
thousand Americans every year. I'm confident that my doctors have
developed the best possible planing to target my specific disease.
The road ahead will not be easy, but I still
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in faith that God will strengthen me. She's a third
CVC member in the past four years to be diagnosed
with pant created cancer. Congressman John Lewis and Congressman Elsie Hastings.
Both of them have been diagnosed with pink created cancer.
Both have passed away. The reality of this disease redeed,
it has a ninety six percent fatality rate, and so
only four percent of folks to get paying credit cancer
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live up to five years or beyond that, And so
CONGS woman she the Jackson leave, certainly has a tough road.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
She's lost a lot of weight.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
You can also again hear the inner voice as well,
but as she says, she's going to continue to fight.
Speaker 11 (51:14):
Absolutely, you did lay out grim reality of pancreatic cancer
and how it is. You know, of the cancers that
people typically get, this is I would say most people
would agree it's the scariest one because it's really hard
to survive. Can't creatic cancer long term. I'm really hoping
that she is caught this at an early stage, hoping that,
as she said, her treatment plan is specific and that
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it will be effective for her to you know, allow
her to continue moving in her legacy and at least.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
Enjoy you know what, at least enjoy what time she
she does have.
Speaker 10 (51:54):
You know, this is back to back to back us
talking about fearless women in some way, shape or form,
and when I look at all that she has done
and continues to do for our community, it's you know,
all of I know she talked about this as a
journey she's dealing with, you know, alone, and it's personal.
We understand that, but she's not alone. I mean, there's
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so many prayers up for her and then all everyone
surrounding her for be for her to be able to
handle this in the best way possible. And so I
just hope that she sees this and that she knows this,
you know that we love her and we're thankful for
everything she has done for us, and we're just going
to continue to pray along with her that she pulls through.
Speaker 8 (52:34):
Julian, you know, Shila is my sister and my friend.
We've been in the trenches together. I love her dearly
and I'm so sad about this. She took the baton
from Congressman John Conyers to continue HR forty with reparations legislation.
Every time NARC National African American Reparations Commission has called
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on her to show up at a town hall to
travel somewhere.
Speaker 9 (53:01):
She's been there. But that's who she is.
Speaker 8 (53:03):
She is a fighter, So she's going to fight this
cancer just like she fights racism. But the sad news,
as Nita said, is that pancreatic cancer is not only
fast acting, but it really doesn't have a high survival rate.
We just have to lift her up in prayer because she.
Speaker 9 (53:21):
Is a woman of faith. We have to just surround
her with the love and to give back to her
when she's given to our community. I mean, I'm so real.
Speaker 8 (53:31):
I can't tell you how sad that I am about this.
It's really quite a body blow to the black community,
not to her. Yes, to her and to her family,
her son who's the pH economist, but also to you know,
to the black community, because she's fought for us.
Speaker 9 (53:50):
She has fought for us, and so now we got
to fight for her.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Indeed, indeed, so shially our prayers go out to a congegswoman.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
She La Jackson Lee posts real quick rate we come back.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
I gotta deal with this drama over a silly ass
foul against Caitlyn Clark in a basketball game and people
are just losing their damn minds over this.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
I gotta deal with this. We'll be right back. Bro
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Okay, y'all, the Indiana Fever in the Chicago Sky played
on Saturday. Of course, Angerise plays for the Sky. Caitlyn
Clark plays for the Indiana Fever, and oh lord, have
all these people, these commentators and these folks who have
no clue about the WNBA have been losing their minds
(57:31):
because Kennedy Carter of Texas A and m Alum committed
a hard foul against Oh my goodness, Katelyn Clark. Oh,
the last thing we can do is have hard fouls
in the WNBA.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
So here's what actually happened.
Speaker 15 (57:46):
To watch this, Aby tumbled off to Carter hurts jump
for good.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
Kennedy Carter now with the dance and fan Clark.
Speaker 1 (58:07):
All right, So Kennedy Carter gives Caitlin Clark a love tap.
It's a shove, and oh my goodness, they've been losing
their minds.
Speaker 2 (58:18):
Now does a thing called context And again, folks, you're like,
this is ridiculous, This makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (58:24):
It's just wrong. This can't be allowed. Do any of
y'all watch basketball WNBA or the NBA folk get pushed shoved?
Speaker 2 (58:38):
I mean, are we serious?
Speaker 3 (58:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (58:42):
Just in case y'all didn't quite understand the context. Let
me roll back what happened prior to this play.
Speaker 2 (58:51):
Watch this one for two At.
Speaker 15 (58:53):
The line, Carter had it deflected by Clark, who comes
over the steel.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
Here's Clark.
Speaker 4 (59:03):
Ballac using the Boston.
Speaker 15 (59:04):
Screen harder got over it.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
Bump from behind in Indiana, able to retain possession. Boston
mid range, take.
Speaker 15 (59:14):
The pull up short the final yo, another chance we
go for Boston lose crawl.
Speaker 12 (59:22):
This time it should a reoprsive put sen.
Speaker 1 (59:27):
So maybe y'all didn't quite see it. So I'm just
gonna slide this back a little bit, so at the
top of the screen. At the top of the screen,
I want y'all to watch after the bucket is made,
watch Caitlin Clark turn back and.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
Talk some trash to Kendy Carter. It's at the top
of the video. Watch this for Boston Louise crawl.
Speaker 16 (59:54):
This time it's shod a Reocrson puts it in after.
Speaker 1 (59:59):
The Kaylyn Clark talks trash in the basketball court all
the time. It's like Larry Bird did, So guess what
when you talk trash to somebody? All right, they gonna
remind Joe.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Asked, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
So why are these people literally losing their minds? And how,
oh my god, what's going on? Do y'all want to
see some stupidity? How about the dumbasses with the Chicago
Tribune editorial board. Mind you, she doesn't play for the
Chicago Sky This is the Chicago Tribune editorial board. At
(01:00:40):
least go to bpad from the editorial board. The foul
committed by Chicago Sky guard Kenny Carter on Kaitlyn Clark
was egregious. Outside of a sporting contest, it would have
been seen as an assault.
Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
I don't know if.
Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
These are all new people with the Chicago Tribune, but
clearly you didn't have anybody with Tribune who was on
the editorial board. When the Bulls would play the Pistons,
and the Pistons would beat the hell out of Michael Jordan,
and they called.
Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
It for Jordan rules.
Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
And their deal is when he brought his ass down
the lane, you put a hurting on Michael Jordan. Yeah, y'all,
Magic Johnson. They were whooping his ass when he came
into the NBA. Oh you're gonna come here, hot dog
(01:01:49):
in it. His old teammates were giving him.
Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Hell led byrd had a crazy fight with doctor J.
I mean, we can go on and on and on.
Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
I remember creep, I'm due Jabbar molly wopped several players.
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
So what I'm trying to understand here, why are we
ain't even gonna talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
The brawl at the palace between with the pistols and
any other pacers? Can we please stop this snowflake crap
with Kaitlyn Kark. Kaitlyn Clark, Okay, guess what one of
the other sinners through Angel reached down on the floor
(01:02:35):
and that was called hey boo, welcome to the w NBA.
Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
This is called sports. And so then you got all
these folks.
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Then you got crazy ass people saying stuff like Pat
McAfee on ESPN his silly ass and he's announced it's
apologized for this utterly ridiculous comment. But listen to paton
McAfee explain what's going on here, and he sounds like
an idiot, dude.
Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Is what I don't know?
Speaker 17 (01:03:09):
Just with my eyes, I couldn't see if she's Caucasian
or not. So I think what we're trying to say
is what the WNBA currently has is what we like
to describe as a cash cow. There is a superstar.
And we're not saying that the players on the courteneyt
act any differently. That's the athletes are going to do
what athletes are going to do in any sport. I
(01:03:29):
think we're all learning that WNBA that's old school football.
Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
That's old school football. But I would like the media
people that continue to.
Speaker 17 (01:03:40):
Say this rookie class, this rookie class, this rookie class,
not just call it for what it is. There's one
white bitch for the Indiana team who is a superstar.
And is it because she stayed in Iowa, put an
entire state on her back, took a program from nothing
to a multiple year's success story.
Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Is it because she would go on to entice the
whole bunch of bs. First of all, let's just unpack
some things here. First, Caitlin Clark is not a WNBA superstar.
Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
She was a superstar in college. Now.
Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Has she brought lots of attention? Absolutely absolutely. I talked
about this beforehand. That allowed the attention, the Nike deal,
all of these different things. I mean, we can go
on and on and on and how everybody's benefiting, but
they're also benefiting because the previous generation. What they built,
(01:04:38):
they also are benefiting because we saw female stars in college.
One of them, Angel Reese. In fact, she Angela Ree,
and she talked about she talked about this whole thing
as well, making it clear that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Folks also watching me. See.
Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
This is where Pat McAfee was wrong, because what he
was saying there was is that, oh, this rookie class
is only about Kitlyn Clark.
Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
No it's not. No, it's not. It's really I'm telling
you Angela Reese and Kitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
This is Michael Jordan, Larry Bird. Excuse me, this is
Magic Johnson, Larry Bird.
Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
That's what it is. And I accept the reality of
black and white. I do because that's America. The biggest
money fight was what in boxing, George Clooney.
Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
And Larry Holmes. Yeah, that's black and white. This is America.
But I'm tired of these people acting like she can't
be fouled. Here's the whole deal. If you're Caitlyn Clark
and you talk trash, your.
Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Ass gonna get smacked. And Kennedy Carter said, listen, little girl,
you new to this. I'm true to this. Kenny Clark
was a baller at Texas A and M. She was
an All American.
Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
She was balling in a WNBA had some issues in
Atlanta and Los Angeles. She scored nineteen points of that game.
I was scoring Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
But this is real simple.
Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
When you play grown ass women, grown ass women are
going to talk to you like you're rookie.
Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
So I need all of.
Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
These men and all of these women, and all of
these people who ain't never followed the WNBA.
Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Oh, by the way, I'm from.
Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Houston, first three time champion of the Houston Comments. I'm
quite familiar with the WNBA, so I ain't new to this.
I'm true to this. But when you have these utterly
ridiculous people like Megan Clark, she been Megan Kelly saying
stupid stuff like look at this idiot. Instead of taking
sheep shots at Caitlyn Clark and admiring themselves in blinding
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envy of her, they should try to be more like her.
They'd played better and their lives would improve. Hey, dumbass,
Meghan Kelly. Caitlyn Clark has already hit the rookie record
for most turnovers, and he as a rookie. There are
other players playing way better than her. Oh, by the way, Megan,
(01:07:26):
because you don't know shit about WNBA Caitlyn Clark's Indiana fever.
They're two and eight, so, oh, by the way, Sunday's
game she scored I think was it three points or
five points?
Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
She didn't even hit double digits. So there's a notion that, oh,
my god, be like her. Hey, it's called toughen the
hell up. You're now in pro ball.
Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
And I don't understand for the life of me, Ranita,
why these people are so such snowflakes, as if they've
never watched sports before. This is what happens when you
decide to come in as the hot rookie. Ask Kobe
what happened. They were like, Yo, we're gonna put.
Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
You on your ass.
Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
In fact, I remember the video or the players like
I ain't passing his ass the ball at the All
Star Game.
Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
So this ain't newest sports. And so guess what.
Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Kaitlin Clark she gonna have to deal with, Like everybody else,
take your ass to the weight room, buke up because
they gonna hit you.
Speaker 11 (01:08:36):
Yeah, this whole thing is so crazy, And what the
Chicago Tribune said is absolutely outrageous to say that This
would be considered assault on anywhere else if it weren't
on a basketball Court'll give you a break.
Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
You would have to go far and wide.
Speaker 11 (01:08:48):
To find a solicitor that would actually try to give
somebody an assault charge over essentially a push that is ridiculous,
that's not worth the paperwork or the charges.
Speaker 4 (01:08:57):
So they definitely overblew it.
Speaker 11 (01:08:58):
And I think that they over because it looks like
there's a racial difference between Caitlyn and Kennedy. The second
thing is when I saw I saw in print the
interview that they did with Kate after and she herself
even said, this is what happens in basketball. There's nothing
to do, you know, the shove happened. I had to
(01:09:19):
pick myself up and reset my attitude and you keep moving.
It's just a part of basketball. So really, this is
just a lot of people blowing it up. And I
think that they're doing that because she is a white woman.
And I think that the root of all of this
is really going back to sort of trying to protecting
that white femininity because we have never seen it.
Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Here.
Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Here's a game, Wenita, here's a game two weeks earlier, y'all,
here's a game two weeks earlier.
Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Watch these two sinners go at it hard foul. Oh
by it come to blows? What what what you're gonna do?
What you're gonna do? Yo? This is sports. This is sports,
and the reality is this here.
Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
If the video we showed Kaitlyn Clark was talking trash
to Kenny. They caught her after the basket and am
a congo. She was like, oh okay, I got something
y'all as we go down the court.
Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Yep.
Speaker 10 (01:10:11):
And Caitlyn Clark also elbowed of her as well during
those plays as well.
Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Which I saw it. I saw it, tussle for the ball,
you go high.
Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
But it wasn't like I mean, I've seen some elbowls,
so I mean, it wasn't that big deal. But I mean,
but it's all a part of the game, and it's
gonna get physical.
Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
No, absolutely.
Speaker 10 (01:10:34):
And I think people also forgot that other malice at
the Palace when I think it was the Sparks versus
the Shock in two thousand and eight at WNBA game
that you know, turned into a brawl of some sort.
Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
This is part of the game and very frustrating.
Speaker 10 (01:10:47):
I'm frustrated with the cloak that has been wrapped around
Caitlyn Clark, and it's no fault of her own. She
gets out there, she plays hard, she doesn't play into
any of the race stuff, she doesn't play into any
of the other things. She gets on the court, talks
her trash jumps or thing, just like anybody.
Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
Else out there.
Speaker 10 (01:11:03):
But this idea of how she has to be protected
because she's saving the league and people talking about, oh,
now charter flights are happening because of what she said.
People haven't speaking about charter flights for years, and now
what's happening. And so she has accelerated things that have
already been happening. And so I think that that's a
great thing. But what is the league gonna start giving
(01:11:24):
automatic flavoran files now she gets touching in a particular way.
This is ultimately gonna hurt her success as a goal
as the league goes forward. And I want to also
shout out Monica McNutt on ESPN's first take, as well
as Jamaelle Hill moving out there speaking about a lot
of the sexism that people have been putting out there
just in their comments about the WNBA in general. But
(01:11:44):
getting back to the issue of Kaitlyn Clark. They can't
have to have this, They can't have this mentality. If
we're gonna protect this woman at all costs because she
is the savior of the league, she will save the
league quote unquote. She gets out there, competes and fights hard.
And this Pat McAfee talking, she's the only one with
that sexist statement. That he made an offensive statement. There
are so many Cardoso reeves and so on and so forth,
(01:12:06):
And so I'm glad that I'm able to learn more
about the league, watch the league, and I am going
to listen to the people, mainly the women commentators who
know about the league and follow it, and they need
to be uplifted as well. But all of this other
nonsense I'm seeing, Like why is Morning Joe covering this?
Did they talk about what a list of times did
to injuries?
Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
This is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
I mean right, I mean it's it's I mean, look,
you reference that, you reference the fight Detroit shot com
I bad. I mean this, hell, this this is the
video right here they went asked. I mean, I mean
the bottom line is to me, that looked much bigger
than the Katelyn Clark stuff. Julian, these people, this just
goes to show you. This just goes to show you
(01:12:48):
that one you got folks who never watch the WNBA.
There's snowflakes and they want her to be treated with
kid gloves. They's say, gross overreaction, and it's it's called bassketball.
Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
Suck it up and deal with it exactly.
Speaker 8 (01:13:03):
I mean, one of the things you have to say
is we've seen elbows, we've seen pushing, we've seen shoving.
It happens with the men and with the women. That's
how it goes down. It's not I mean, that's just
how it is.
Speaker 9 (01:13:16):
But the reaction is because of white women's frailty.
Speaker 8 (01:13:21):
All these people are railing around, I mean virtually clutching
their pearls because poor Maitland Clark got knocked down.
Speaker 9 (01:13:31):
Hell, if you want to play with the big girls,
you got to be a big girl. And she wasn't complaining.
Speaker 8 (01:13:38):
I'll say that she's been very aware of the racial differences.
Even with Angel she wasn't complaining. But all these protectors,
I said, I call them quasi clan members. You know,
back in the day, if a white woman says she
looked bad ways, suddenly there was a lynching. There's one
(01:13:59):
story from back in the day. I know you sticking
me and my stories roller, but I tell him anyway,
where a brother was walking down the street and a
wife who was bathing in the window. Now why was
the bathing in the window? So then she said the
man was eyebollowed her. She bathed in the window.
Speaker 9 (01:14:15):
They lenched it.
Speaker 8 (01:14:16):
So this is a basically fast forward. You got these
You can't push Caitlin Clark. Well, if Caitlyn Clark wants
to pay w NBA, somebody gonna push her. They're gonna
push her more than once. She needs to up her game.
She was a great college superstar and she did bring
a lot of attention to the league.
Speaker 9 (01:14:35):
Look at her problems with that.
Speaker 8 (01:14:36):
But guess what, she has not at all met her
accolades in terms of the quality of her play.
Speaker 9 (01:14:44):
And the fact that she got her behind knocked down. Okay,
I ain't at.
Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
A nobody and listen, listen, that's gonna happen. This right
here is video of another w NBA game. The players
were going at it, jawn at each other. The reps
call to technical fouls on them.
Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
It happens. I mean, so, Bob Line, this is what
is called sports.
Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
I mean, I don't understand why people are just losing
a damn minds over the Bomblizer is here.
Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Hey, and let me be real clear, Let me be
real clear.
Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Okay, for all the folks who talking about all the
folks who are talking about well, you know, uh.
Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
You know, how should you respond? Listen?
Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
I remember when uh it was the it was Larry
Bird and Bill Lambier. Uh and listen, Larry Bird was
not taking nothing from the Detroit Pistons and Bill Lambier
and Bird fought many folks.
Speaker 16 (01:15:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
And let me real clear.
Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Bird was a white boy from Indiana who could bawl,
who could straight up ball. But but but listen, when
he was fighting, he went after Dennis Robin go to
the video, he was he was and Dennis Rodman, Bill
Lambert he ain't care, he ain't care. Watch Yeah, what
(01:16:06):
for all y'all people who tripping on kit Hello? Watch
this right here.
Speaker 16 (01:16:18):
I don't remember Larry Bird getting his high rings.
Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
I saw him there.
Speaker 16 (01:16:21):
Bird would stand for getting pulled down out the layoff,
but not on a play like that with the clock
running down. Man, he really got to take it down
very hard. And of course Burn is very upset at
Lambert has been for a long time.
Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
So all I'm saying, y'all, y'all sitting here tripping.
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Them were the days in the NBA when they were
sitting here just swinging. That looked up on caitly Len
clark Man. That was a love tap from a Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
That was a love tap. All right, y'all, we gotta go.
Ronita Julian, I'm a congo.
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