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Today's Wednesday, June twelve, twenty twenty four, coming up on
Roland Martin on filtered streaming live on the Black Star Network.
Oklahoma State Supreme Court they've struck down a lawsuit from
the last known survivors of the nineteen twenty one Tulsa
race massacre, who are seeking reparation from the city of
Tulsa for the victims and their descendants. The Few Research
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Center recently put out a report saying that black Americans
believe in racial conspiracy theories. Well, that report is getting
some pushback. Will talk to the president and CEO of
Just Leadership USA about why using such terms can be
dangerous Illinois's third largest school district, is accused of using
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cops for minor disciplinary actions against black students. Will talk
to the attorney who filed a complaint alleging racial discriminatory
handling of those students. Also will tell you why a
member of the famous Motown group the Four Tops is
suing a Michigan hospital for racial discrimination. Also on today's show,
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Wark Dunn held his charity golf classic on Monday. Will
show you what he had to say, and also one
of the women who's been helped by him getting into
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The Oblahoma Supreme Court says the grievances of the survivors
of the Tulsa race massacre do not fall within the
scope of a public nuisance.
Speaker 10 (21:44):
They have dismissed the lawsuit.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
This, Folks, is likely the last effort the survivors have
of getting any reparations as a result of the race
massacre in nineteen twenty one. They alleged the city and
the Chamber were explored in the nineteen twenty one race massacre,
promoting tourism for the city's gain at the plaintiff's expense.
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They also sought reparations from the city. In July twenty
twenty three, a Toosa County judge dismissed their suit. Today's
Supreme Court said the plaintiffs failed to justify a public
nuisance claim and quote a legally coggonzible abatement claim. Of course,
this is an effort as it has been folks have
been dealing with four years, I mean going back more
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than two decades. Johnny Cochrane, Willie Gary and others representing
these plaintiffs and folks have been doing all they can
for them to be able to get reparations as a
result of Greenwood being completely destroyed in this race massacre.
My guests, my palent to day is Robert Bartillo hosts People, Passion, Politics,
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News and Talk thirteen eighty WAOK out of Atlanta. Rebecca
Carruther's vice president of Fair Election Center out of DC
Derrek Jackson, Georgie that represented from District sixty eight. Lad
to have all three of you here. I'll start with you, Robert.
Speaker 10 (23:06):
You know this. It's been an ongoing deal here.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
You had here, you had these cops, the city folks,
with the state destroying this black section. Tulsa refuses to
pay up to say of Boklahoma refuses to pay up.
And so you sit here and go, how on the
hell can you destroy black property of all these black
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folks and never have to have to repay for the damage.
Speaker 10 (23:33):
And all these courts are agree with him.
Speaker 12 (23:36):
Well, as we know the court system in this country,
it is never ranic reparations for black folks and appears
they never will. And we have to understand the end
this electioneer. This has to be part of our demands.
It's great to have juneteen celebrations, it's great to have
events around the country. It's great to talk about the
legislative record, but we have to talk about reparations for
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African Americans while we have this strength and this power,
when you have both parties vying for our vote. Even
the Republican Party is having events around the country with
Byron Donald and Hunt and Saint Steele advocating to try
to get the black vote. This is our time to
make it very clear that our single issue that we
are voting upon is this issue of reparations. We fought
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our way through the court system for over one hundred years,
trying to find a way through their means, through their
courts to provide some form of restitution for what we
went through in this country, the same way the Japanese Americans,
Jewish Americans, Native Americans have done so, but they will
not come to the table and even talk about it.
We're going to have to do this legislative flee and
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this is the time that we have to put our
foot down and say that as a community, it's either
now or never that we address this issual reparations.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
And this is about putting pressure on legislators in the
city as well. Look, there's an election happening in August, Rebecca,
You've got an African American who is running for mayor
their in tols I would hope black folks in Tulsa
are voting in mass numbers and saying with him at
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the helm and maybe that will lead to the city
doing something exactly.
Speaker 13 (25:11):
Roland but it also takes more than just having black
people in certain key positions.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
It also, like you said, it requires people actually voting
to take action. Here's the bottom line.
Speaker 13 (25:22):
This is the very reason why black Americans know that
there are two systems in this country and many of
our institutions do not benefit black Americans.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
I know, we're going to get into this later.
Speaker 13 (25:33):
This isn't just that we think or we feel, but
it's we know, and this is the latest piece of
data where we see Black Americans are being denied something
that if it was a different group of people, if
it wasn't black folks pleading this case in court, we
know that they would be like, yes, absolutely, we need
to pay y'all plus interests. So once again, this isn't
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just where we think or we have a conspiracy around it,
but it is an example of what.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
We know and what we see.
Speaker 10 (26:02):
Look, it is always difficult.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
I mean, look, you've got these two survivors, who you know,
one hundred and nine years old. They have been battling,
they have been fighting for all this time. Derek, in
the course of pretty much shutting the door.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
On them, you know, Rowland.
Speaker 14 (26:21):
When you think about the two last survivors, right, there
were three, but the third.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Uncle Red died last year.
Speaker 14 (26:31):
Yes, that's right, and he was one hundred and two.
So just think about it. Here, we have a very
profound case where you typically do not have surviving witnesses.
That's the age of one hundred and nine and one
hundred and ten. I mean, put the legislation aside, because
even if we had legislation in place, Roland, you know
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as well as I that legislation is only as good
as those who will enforce it. And so we have
laws on the books already. And this is beyond just
a public nuisance issue. People were murdered, businesses were destroyed,
families were disrupted, and so this is beyond just a
public nuisance. This is a call for justice, right, This
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is beyond jazz reparations. And there are going to be times,
as we're going to get into I'm sure later on
in your show, when we start talking about conspiracy, because
Rebecca is right, there are two systems. There is a
white system and a black system. Because we just watched
an individual with thirty four felonies did not show up
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in person to talk to the probation officer. He zoomed
in no one in the history in New York, and
being a native New Yorker, Roland, you had to show
up in person. And so we have concrete evidence that
there are two systems in these United States.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
It's just frankly, the only so from legally, Robert, there's
no way to go. And again that pressure has to
be brought to bear on these elected officials. That's where
that's where it has to happen, exactly. This is the
end of the road legally for these individuals. However, this
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is based upon the laws that are in place currently.
There's nothing to say the new laws cannot be passed
in the next term that can provide relief, even direct
legislative relief.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
We had a situation in Columbus.
Speaker 12 (28:30):
Georgia, probably close to twenty years ago, when a young
man by name of Kenneth Walker was killed by police
and the family sued. The family went through every court
apparatus possible to try to get relief. The city was
legally not required to pay up. However, because of all
the issues, the Reverend Jackson and other leaders raised the
city or a group of business people raised the money
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and were able to provide some justice to the family.
There are always other ways to do things. And if
we have a laws that are on the books that
are wrong, you change those damn walls. But this is
the time that this election we always start talking on
social media about getting young people to voting. All this
messaging about not voting, why it doesn't matter. I think
that we make our stand on reparations in twenty twenty four,
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we won't have an issue. We're getting people to the
polls and getting people turned down, both on the local,
state and federal level.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Indeed, so folks will be seeing what's the next move
for tomorrow. Salomon Simmons and the two remaining survivors, but
absolutely sad news out of Oklahoma.
Speaker 10 (29:31):
All right, folks, got to go to break.
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A recent Research Center report describing widely held use a
black Americans believed in the quote racial conspiracy theories is
getting some pushback. Some say the wording is offensive and
can be dangerous ammunition for right wing media and politicians
to dismiss situations dealing with systematic racism. The Center attached
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this editor's note to the report quote, this report is
under revision.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
We use the.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Words racial conspiracy theories as a shorthand and acknowledged that
was not the best choice. Diana Hoskin is president and
CEO of the Just Leadership USA, and she joins me
right now, So, Diana, just first of all, explain your
thoughts on this. Why you say this is bad language
(33:45):
by them?
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Thank you, Roland.
Speaker 19 (33:48):
Actually, when pub released this report and they utilize the
words conspiracy theory at a moment when we have the
narrative around election fraud conspiracy QAnon, the wording of that
says that black people just have a suspicion and it
almost gas lights our reality systemic racism.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
And they utilize this word all the way throughout.
Speaker 19 (34:13):
They acknowledge these are in fact issues that have happened
in the black community.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
But they titled each section of.
Speaker 19 (34:20):
Black America's racial conspiracy theory around criminal justice, around politics,
which is powerful at a moment right now.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
So and is your fear that as resort of this report,
that will just cause folks to who are already pair
no where to go oh see and start advancing frankly
more conspiracy theories.
Speaker 19 (34:42):
Exactly, And not only that that when we start talking
about mass incarceration, when we talk about overincarceration, systemic racism people.
PW is a trusted reporter and research institution. You're going
to have individuals say all that.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Pugh already I'm sorry, Dan, or something common over again
because your signal pros go ahead, Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 19 (35:11):
But what it does is that's up the potential of
the public because of Pugh's reputation around research and surveying
to say, when we start talking about mass incarceration, systemic racism,
to have it really undermining gaslight to say, oh, that's
just a conspiracy theory. Pugh has already researched that. So
even with the editor's notes that we're revisiting this, it's
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already out there in mainstream media, and we know people
pick up the titles and highlights and running with it.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Questions from the panel, Rebecca, you first, So.
Speaker 13 (35:45):
My question is who, over apps few decided that they
wanted to spend.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
Time focusing on researching black folks.
Speaker 13 (35:52):
Did they actually have black folks involved, or black data
scientists involved, or was it just a group of white
people saying, hey, this is interesting about black folks, so let's,
you know, peek into the black communities and figure.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Out what was going on.
Speaker 19 (36:05):
Like that was for this That was my first question,
and I asked my team to look at who is
the author of this report, and it is a black woman.
So I went to the theory, i'll skin folks and kinfolk,
because you must not have experienced the history that we.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Have experienced in the black community.
Speaker 19 (36:25):
But there again, the quickness of their adding that note
when we called them out made me feel as if.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
You knew what you were doing, because you retracted it
too soon, Robert.
Speaker 12 (36:41):
So all that same point, did they look at any
other groups and call their valid concerns uh conspiracy theories?
Do they look at Jewish Americans who are fighting against
anti Semitism and say that's the conspiracy theory that they
go to stop Asian hate and call that a conspiracy theory?
Or just just as you said, an inotential to undermine
the plight of African Americans in this country.
Speaker 19 (37:03):
I am with you that it was an intentional undermining
of the flight of African Americans and continue to allow
the systemic oppression. There again, the way it was written,
and even in a report that an interview she said,
she said, well, the questions didn't come out that way.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
But your answers did. Why did you write it that way?
Why did you use that language?
Speaker 19 (37:23):
If we are saying the facts that African Americans are overincarcerated.
African Americans have been undermined through systemic racism. But you
continue to ask the questions one way. But then you
reported it with all of these topics, and each section
in the report says black America believes in the racial
conspiracy theory around politics.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Each title is delivered in that utilization of those words.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Pert Deanna, appreciate your work in this space.
Speaker 14 (37:53):
And as a legislator, I read the report as well,
and my question is when she stated aside from the
historical events right the context, and I was a little
you know, I was stuck right there because if she
would have included how we got here around the thirteenth Amendment,
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for example, and how the thirteenth Amendment set up massivecroceration.
So my question to you, what can we do as
a legislator to combat these sort of articles that mysteriously
are popping up. You know, over a two week period
she only interviewed forty seven hundred, you know, of our cousins.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
What can we do to combat this because this.
Speaker 14 (38:40):
Gets into our media consumption and it becomes a little
bit more challenging because we are in a twenty four hour.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Seven days, three sixty five cycle. Right.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
I really appreciate that question because that was what I asked.
Speaker 19 (38:56):
How do we get this this is already out, you're
only standing as we're going to be revised, but it's
already people's thoughts.
Speaker 10 (39:02):
So how do we.
Speaker 19 (39:03):
Actually look at controlling what the media rights actually pushing
back on that creating our own narrative. I think I
shared this earlier with someone. I think we're in a
critical time that we as black people have not created
our own narrative because what is happening is institutions like
PEW are trying to deliver our message in our narrative
and utilizing our cousins to write the reports around that narrative.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
All right, well again, this is why it's also important
for us to respond when things like this happen, so
the record is corrected so people just don't take this
and begin to run with it.
Speaker 10 (39:38):
So great job there, We appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
Thanks a lot, Thank you, Roland.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
All right, thank you very much, folks. When we come back,
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Vice President Kamala Harris continues her Black Economic Opportunity Tours.
She stopped today in Charlotte, North Carolina, to highlights the
Body administration's efforts to increase opportunities in black and minority communities.
Attorney political commentator McCarthy Sellers was joined by actor Michael
Ealy in moderating this conversation at Johnson C.
Speaker 10 (44:08):
Smith University. Here's some of what was discussed.
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Indeed, men and Vice President's and honor to be here
with you today. I think this tour is such a
great idea, and I think just it's working one and two.
I think it's always great for the people to hear
directly from you what is happening, what is being done.
I know an important issue for you is housing, yes,
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and I know it's been an important issue for you
throughout your career. Being in California the last twenty plus years,
I know how much work you've done there. I know
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now in this administration.
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The question I have is.
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It's a priority. So what is the administration doing to
help ease the burden of home ownership?
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Right now?
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So let's start.
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As you know, Michael, and we've talked about this before,
home ownership is one of the best ways to achieve
intergenerational wealth, right so, and let's think.
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About it this way.
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When you are able to buy a home, obviously most
from most of us with a mortgage, but when you
are able to have a home that is yours, that
you own, you accrue capital, right and that means that
when your child says, you know, okay, now, everybody just
I think everybody in North Carolina and the handles, when
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your child says you want to go to Howard University, I.
Speaker 7 (45:47):
Couldn't help myself.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
We know.
Speaker 22 (45:52):
When their child says I want to go to an
HBCU such as the one that we are so privileged
to be in. Right now, you can say, honey, you
don't have to take out that loan. I'll take some
equity out out of the home. You don't have to
take out a loan. I'll take some equity out of
the house to help you pay that tuition. Or if
your child says I want to start a business, you
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can say, honey, I can take some equity and out
of the home and help you with some startup capital.
Home ownership is one of the best ways that we
achieve intergenerational wealth. We also know that it is one
of the one of the many issues where we have
seen incredible obstacles for black families. We don't even need
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to go as far back as nobody got the twenty
acres in a mule. Let's go to the fact that
we recently celebrated D Day, and we rightly celebrated what
we have called the Greatest Generation. Well, there was a
public policy rightly in our country that said, about that
greatest generation, you have brought stability to the world. You
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as American military members, most of whom were men, You
have served your country in the world with such dignity
to such great result. So we want to invest and
reward you. And the federal policy then was to give
them loans to help them buy homes. And as we know,
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we had plenty of black servicemen who served in World
War Two, but because of discriminatory practices in terms of
how those loans were given out, did not receive the
benefit of that boost that occurred in our country to
help people achieve wealth. So there were pre existing disparities
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and then you had this boost. You think about it
in terms of the history of redlining. You think about
it in the history of what was called a whole
federal policy around urban renewal, which basically resulted in freeways
cutting through black communities and other communities of color, thereby
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dividing up communities around what otherwise we're thriving commerce communities.
So what we have been doing as an administration to
deal with this issue is to one acknowledge the truth
about the disparities and to seek out and identify the
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disparities and the built in systems that still exist that
create those obstacles to home ownership. And I'm going to
talk about one in particular, racial bias and home appraisals.
So we decided to take that on. Many of you
may know the stories about a black family that wants
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to sell their home and then has the appraiser come
in and the house is appraise for what they know
is less than its value. And you probably know the
stories about how they'll then reach out to family friends
who are white and say, hey, we all come over,
bring your family pictures. We're going to take down ours,
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and you invite the appraiser, and the home appraises for
higher value. So one of the issues that we are
taking on is this issue and are now requiring that
appraisers have racial bias training before they are able to
do this work. We are also we are also giving
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for people who are the first generation in their family
to seek to buy a home twenty five thousand dollars,
grants for startup capital to actually be able to pay
down on home ownership twenty five thousand dollars if you
are first or you are the generation that is the
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first in your family to be able to buy a home.
The other thing we are doing is for a certain
tranche of folks helping them first time homeowners four hundred
dollars a month in credits toward paying your mortgage. And
these issues are exactly the kind issues that when you
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address them, make a huge difference. In terms of who's
able to buy a home, and that matters. And you know,
listen this you probably are sensing from the things that
I am describing. We have been taking a critical look
at the those specific pieces of the system that have
long gone overlooked. That are you know that the story
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about the princess and the peak, that seemingly small thing
that makes all the difference, These specific aspects of the
system that have kept people from achieving their dreams. Another
issue that we have been dealing with is federal contracts.
So if you get a federal contract, being very frank,
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unless you mess it up, it's yours for life. But
what we know is that when you're talking about black entrepreneurs,
black small business owners less likely to have the relationships
or know the process for applying for a federal contract.
When President Biden and I came in, we committed to
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increase federal contracts to minority owned businesses by fifty percent,
and we're on track to get that done by the
end of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Rebecca Vandy Fair dropped a story that I thought was
quite interesting that said that if the Biden campaign was smart,
they would be using Vice President Kamala Harris a lot
more than they are now. Now, look, we've been saying
that for a long time, and so now you've got
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vanned saying this. So maybe since you got some white
folks saying, these folks might listen.
Speaker 13 (52:05):
The validation of white press absolutely because we have been
saying this on this show ever since this administration has started.
Speaker 7 (52:14):
Now, I will say, you know, to my sore.
Speaker 13 (52:16):
Vice President Kamala Harris is forty acres in a mule,
not twenty acres in the mule. But I won't split
hairs here. But what she's talking about, she's talking about
economic policy in a relatable way, talking about the direct impact,
especially to black communities, and that's what's needed. So I
will say to ben Indy Fair, you know, with all
due respect, and start covering it.
Speaker 7 (52:39):
Because Vice President har has been talking about this.
Speaker 13 (52:43):
You know, when she goes out of this country, she
gets incredible press, but for whatever reason, in this country,
she's not getting that same press.
Speaker 7 (52:50):
So Bandy Fair, you know, keep covering.
Speaker 13 (52:52):
This and then tell your other competitors cover her because
she has a lot to say, it says. Spending all
that time covering Trump's antics, actually talk and cover when
people are actually pushing forward and talking about the vision
of twenty twenty five and beyond. Let's start talking about
what these two potential administrations want to bring in into
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a second term.
Speaker 7 (53:15):
If either administration, we're able to do so.
Speaker 10 (53:19):
Robert, this is the article in here.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
It says Biden is underutilizing Kamala vibes among voters, suggests
the president is losing Black Americans. His vice president could
fix that. Now, one of the things that we have
seen all this time, we've seen these various polling data
that's being done, and we've seen these other polls. You
got Pugh saying that one to five black men considering
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voting for Donald Trump. You've got other polls that the
Black poles that we've done that show something that's a
little bit different as well. But the bottom line is
you got to get her out there, get together a
lot more. And I have been saying, and it's not
just her, I have been saying since last year. First
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of all, let's go back to twenty twenty one when
I said the reelection of Biden Harris should have started
the day after the inauguration.
Speaker 10 (54:13):
Let's just go there.
Speaker 4 (54:15):
But what we're seeing in terms of the data we
had Adrian Shropshire on with Blackpack and what they're doing
right now door to door canvassing in three states and
what they're seeing or people saying I don't know what
their accomplishments are and you're dealing with lots of misinformation,
which suggests then what you have to do is you
got to have more forms like this here where you're
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literally walking through policy as in we did this, this, this, this,
this what we did yesterday, doctor walk to Kimber talking
about specifically what they've done for HBCUs. What I to
me would makes sense is they should be saying, hey,
we want black mayors across the country holding these town
halls in their cities. We want folks like we want
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state representative, state senators putting these townh town So if
you're talking about right there in Georgia, not sitting here
just having these things in having in Atlanta, but saying no,
we're gonna have it in all Buty, in Savannah, in Athens,
in Jonesboro, in Statesboro, all around, and so you should
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be utilizing people now, not in September October. Should they
should be in an information stage now?
Speaker 12 (55:30):
Lebroland the dirty secret about politics and democratic politics in particular,
is they don't like to pay black people. That's just
the reality of the way these campaigns work. They want
black folks to be the political sharecroppers. We want you
to volunteer, we want you to bring your congregation, we
want you to get your community group out here. Meanwhile,
they'll have you know, Chad who's a student at Yale
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making two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to organize on
college campuses, the UGA, Georgia State, et cetera. What they're
going to have to do is take that wares today
have and as they say, the old Negro spiritual bright brand.
It's just the reality that they're going to have to
pay to put these forums on, paid to put these
ads on black media, paid to make sure that they're
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getting the type of attention that events that African Americans
will be in.
Speaker 4 (56:16):
It's not going to be.
Speaker 12 (56:17):
Enough to simply show up for homecoming and do the
church side and to the stinky leg this year.
Speaker 4 (56:21):
You're going to need to actually.
Speaker 12 (56:23):
Invest in those communities, invest in building those organizations, and
not just simply pay everything the consultants and posters and
your media people. You have to make sure that you
are buying into black communities, spending the money necessary to
get those things done. And as Rebecca said, these news
networks on the left that report every time Donald Trump's sneezes,
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every time Donald Trump takes a nap, every time Donald
Trump farts, and that's not even hyperbole. They literally had
live reports on that during the Trump trial. We need
them to be at some of these events and actually
reporting on it. Put a camera on Kamala hair for
two hours and just let her talk in prime time.
Give them that free new media space as opposed to
this continued uh infatuation they have with Trump. Every minute
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that Stephen Colbert spend speaking about President Trump's the meaning
that he's actually helping Trump because all publicity is good.
Speaker 4 (57:11):
In publicity there here's what I'm talking about again, and listen,
I don't I don't know how they partition who does what,
and who controls what and normally what likes. So for instance,
you take Kamala Harris her Twitter feed. Now you have
two feeds. There's the VP feed which is for official business.
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So today's event was actually if I believe, I think
the plays bo was a campaign event. I think I
think it was, or maybe it was part of the
part of White House Deal. Now it was White House Deal.
So because on white House dot gov. All right, so
here's a person, so let me just he's a perfect example.
So let me just do this here, y'all, hold on
one second. So this is what I'm talking about in
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terms of how how I see, how I see these
things being done. So go to my iPad, Henry. So
I'm on the Twitter feed right now, and so you
see right here the Vice President made a statement regarding
this being the eighth anniversary of the Post nightclub massacre.
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Then you see her statement regarding the passing of Reverend
James Lawson. I'm gonna read that a little bit later.
But then you have down here and you have happening.
Now I'm speaking with Michael E. Lie and Bacari Selos
and Charlotte. Then the four stop of my nationwide economic tour. Okay,
so they got they got the link to the actual video,
and then you got a photo right here of her saying,
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on my way back to Charlotte, to highlight our administration's
historic actions to take on medical and stutent loan debt,
invest in small businesses, expand access to capital in more. Okay,
so you got this video right here. Okay, that's fine,
all right. So okay, so you got that, and then
I go down here. So that's that's all I got.
So regarding what happened in Charlotte, I see two comments,
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see two posts. That's it.
Speaker 10 (59:01):
Now.
Speaker 4 (59:02):
If I go back over here to the Kamla Harris
feet and again, I don't know if the d n
C is running that because typically what happens is when
you go into the White House. So the DNC runs that. Okay,
So here we go back to my iPad. So I'm
on here right now. There's nothing about Charlotte today. There's nothing.
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There's nothing, and I'm sitting here going, okay, I see
the June teen stuff. I see all this sort of stuff.
There's nothing.
Speaker 10 (59:31):
Okay, all right, so let me do this here. Let
me let me go over.
Speaker 4 (59:35):
Let me go over to Instagram, and so let me
see what's popping over at Instagram.
Speaker 10 (59:42):
Okay. So when I click here and I go to VP, now,
all right, so go go so a VP.
Speaker 4 (59:53):
So on the VP's page on Instagram, I see a
post regarding the post nightclub. Got it. I see the
Reverend James Lawson. I got it.
Speaker 10 (01:00:04):
I see.
Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
A credit score post from a day ago. I see
nothing about today in Charlotte.
Speaker 10 (01:00:16):
Nothing, okay, all right, So that's all right. So let
me do this here.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
So now let me let me go over to Kamala Harris.
So first of all, if I look at VP, we
look at the VP. She has sixteen point four million
followers on Instagram. So if I go over here to Kamala.
Now I go to Kamla Harris where she has fourteen
point eight million. Again, I see a post about billionaires
paying their fair share. I see a post about gun
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violence from six hours ago. I see a post for
her on Jimmy Kimmel from two days ago. I see
a post from a couple of days ago from my
gun safety. I see a post here about I don't
know where this, I don't even know what this is.
It's just a caption from three days ago. There, I
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see nothing about Charlotte. So when you're in, when you're
in a battle, and just i'ma I'm gonna do one
last thing again. And what I need people to understand
what I'm doing is that this is what we call
a content analysis. Okay, And So what often happens with
these campaigns in the White House. They're focusing on earned media.
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They're hoping media shows up. The question is do they
show up? So if I now go to the White
House feed, Okay, so here's a perfect example on the
White House feed.
Speaker 10 (01:01:38):
You see it right here.
Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
This is the video, okay, seven hours ago, twenty six
hundred views, two thousand, six hundred and sixty nine views.
That's the number. That's the number. Okay, two six and
sixty nine views on the White House feed. Now, I'm
not sure who else covered this event. I'm not sure
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what other folks actually streamed the event. We did, and
so I'm looking right here. I'm just trying to see
what did it do. So we streamed it one time,
it did about let's see a thousand Vegas. We're gonna
restream it several more times. So the point I'm making
here is this here, very few people are gonna sit
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down and watch the entire fifty one minute or one
hour nine conversation. But they have got to be operating
with speed. They've got to be sitting dropping out clips
immediately literally as it is happening.
Speaker 10 (01:02:40):
While it is going on.
Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
You've got to have the Biden Harris campaign, the DNC
has got to have a strong social media team that's
sitting here kicking that stuff out, that's watching it, that's
grabbing clips and posting it literally as it has happened.
And so what I should be seeing on Kamala Harris's
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on Kamala Harris on Instagram, why I should be seeing
on Kamala Harris on on Twitter? What I should be
seeing on the VP's Instagram and the Twitter and Twitter
accounts are multiple clips going out and that literally means
having somebody sitting in the White House watching it happen
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and going boom, clip that sixty seconds, kick it out,
clip that two minutes, kick it out. That's the world
we're living in, not in analog world. We're not living
in a digital world.
Speaker 14 (01:03:40):
So Roland, just for the Rucker, I want everybody to
know that I'm saying it's not Roland Martin. The Biden
Harris campaign needs to hire Roland Martin.
Speaker 10 (01:03:53):
Nope, they can't afford me, I know, but listen hear
me out rolling.
Speaker 14 (01:03:58):
Here's the reason why I say that, Because you cannot
have a John Doe and a Jane Doe to tell
the Black narrative. You have to have someone like a
Roland Martin that understands the narrative and what to do
with the narrative, because that's like, you know, we're talking
bilingual here.
Speaker 5 (01:04:18):
If you hire John.
Speaker 14 (01:04:20):
Doe, Robert says, somebody up in Yale, right, somebody up
in Yale don't understand the language of Cark Atlanta University.
Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
You cannot be bilingual.
Speaker 14 (01:04:34):
You just cannot take the eighty seven percent Black men
and a ninety eight percent black women and just think
that because they always voted democratically, that you're going to
constantly give something that they're going to consume, which is
the reason why Roland, every time I go to the barbershop,
they keep saying, hey, Representer Jackson, what is it that
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the Biden here is campaign doing for black people? They're
doing a not It's just that it's not on their
story feed, right, And.
Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
You're hoping they're hoping media shows up, but they're not.
And so if they are not going to show up,
what you then have got to do is utilize your
own existing platforms. And you've got to also again, I
don't know who traveled with the Vice president, and if
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all the people out there who don't understand when I'm
always talking about why folks have to invest while we
got to have advertisers, because here's the reality.
Speaker 10 (01:05:35):
The reality is we don't have the resources to just to.
Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Travel in the pool. First of all, let me be
for people who understand. There's a pool feed that costs
anywhere to three to five hundred thousand dollars a year.
That's separate from Associated Press. That's just the pool feed. Okay,
So if we were getting fair share of dollars, it
could be me, or I could actually pay somebody to
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go on this trip with the Vice president and whether
they ride on Air Force too, or we can actually
fly them to Charlotte ourselves, and you know what happened.
Speaker 10 (01:06:13):
They're sitting here kicking stuff out.
Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
And see how I now Again, just people understand how
these things work when you do that, when you all
of a sudden are thinking about how you drive content.
It's very similar to frankly, what happened when I went
to Detroit. So because I was there, guess what, sure
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the feed was going. We streamed it, but I'm doing
interviews with other people who were there. In fact, I
was actually ticked off because I was I was in
the pool and they kept put they pulled us out,
and I was like, Hey, it's other folks I could
be talking to, and so I rather not be in
the pool.
Speaker 10 (01:06:57):
I rather not.
Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
Actually it's great traveling on Air Force Wars TUE, but
it actually limits what I can actually do in terms
of gonnery content.
Speaker 10 (01:07:04):
What they have to have is is she's talking in Charlotte.
Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Who are the students in the audience who got student
loan debt?
Speaker 10 (01:07:13):
Where the videos? Where are them thanking?
Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Where are them thanking the vice president and the president
for student loan debt? Where are the black owned businesses
that were in the audience in Charlotte talking about it?
Where are the black state reps and the black state
senators and the city council members and the black mayors
Charlotte and the county execs and the others who are
sitting in the audience. Where are the clips of them
talking about her coming? And those things have been important.
(01:07:40):
It's called having a media strategy. And I'm sorry I
don't see it. And if you wait until tomorrow or
the day after, you've already missed the news cycle.
Speaker 10 (01:07:52):
Derek going to finish your point.
Speaker 5 (01:07:53):
Yeah, So Roland two points.
Speaker 14 (01:07:56):
That's the reason why we constantly are encountering the questioness,
what is it that they're doing for the black communities.
The second point is great to have celebrities. I get
that whole strategy, but it would have been more powerful
that you're talking about economic opportunity for all and have
Airan Simone, the sister for the Fearless Fund, up there
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on that stage, right, because we know what's happening with
the Fearless Fund and talk about So when you're talking
about economic opportunity for all, you have someone a small
business owner that's trying to do those things for women
of color and can talk about a real situation that
the administration can deal with.
Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
And now that resonates a little bit differently.
Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
This is the thing for me here, Rebecca. Again, what
drives me crazy is you're in a messaging war. We
have the data from polling, Rebecca. That's saying is African
Americans are getting misinformation from two major sources, Instagram and TikTok,
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which means what you have to do to counter misinformation
is to provide clean information that's factual. And what you
can't do is you can't hope local media shows up
and national media shows up. You've got to have a
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strategy that gets that information to them again. And it's
just it's it's just constantly, it's it's this is the
fourth stop. And I'm now saying this for the third
time and the only reason I'm not saying it for
the fourth time because I was on one of the
stops and I did what I'm actually talking about.
Speaker 13 (01:09:51):
So Roland, before my current position, I've worked on campaigns
for twenty years and so from a pure campaign perspective,
from being a campaign manager, I've been campaign manager and
governor's races, congressional races, city council races, did work on
super PACs.
Speaker 7 (01:10:11):
There are four things that are missing here.
Speaker 13 (01:10:14):
It is your advanced team, your outreach team, your communications team,
and your strategy.
Speaker 7 (01:10:19):
So what needed to happen is the advanced team hits
the ground, meets with local leaders.
Speaker 13 (01:10:24):
Meets with different community groups, and meets with different businesses
that have had positive impacts from the policies that came
out at the White House.
Speaker 7 (01:10:33):
Those are the first people you were talking about then.
Speaker 13 (01:10:35):
So then when you now have your comms team there,
they are now working the crowds, They're talking to specific
people who have testimonials of the positive impact that they
received from some of these policies, and then you're actually
able to record it.
Speaker 7 (01:10:49):
And then push it out.
Speaker 13 (01:10:51):
The third area that you're missing is an outreach team
where they're now working in the community, working with community groups,
helping them make sure that folks the ground so everyday people,
grassroots people understand this is how the specific policy directly
impacts my life, and not just the grasstop leaders or
the grasstop business owners. And then finally you have the strategists.
(01:11:14):
I'm gonna reveal campaign secret here. So what you put
on your social media feed or and or what you
put on what a campaign or a candidate puts on
their website. That signals to the outside groups, those who
do what's called independent expenditures, independent from the campaign, not
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coordinating directly with the campaign. But the order of what
you preface is you're signally to all these outside groups
who are going to be spending hundreds of millions of
dollars on this campaign cycle for Trump or for Biden. Harris,
you then signal what is important and you want them
to start pushing out and talking about. So it is
(01:11:55):
campaign mouthfeasance not to have these specific economic tours and
these clips.
Speaker 7 (01:12:01):
Even back to your second point with the COMPS team
not having.
Speaker 13 (01:12:05):
A rap there, there should be a rapid response group
that is traveling with Vice President Harrison.
Speaker 7 (01:12:12):
What a competent campaign.
Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
And let'll be real clear, she the COMMS team, it's
only a couple of people when she's on the road.
Speaker 10 (01:12:21):
Okay, so here's the piece. So got So here's again
how I look at it.
Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
If you know that this is the and they're doing,
they're doing the best that they can do, which then
means what you have to do is because I don't believe,
I don't believe there's anything wrong if you're the dnc
U national or you're the state Democratic Party in North Carolina,
to still be at the event, Robert, And then what
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you do is you're getting that out and this is real,
this is real, simple what I'm talking about. There are
young people who literally and hell, I'm fifty five and
I do this. There are people who literally kick this
stuff out with efficiency, who grab it, who can edit,
who can put these things together. But again, you cannot
(01:13:08):
be living in a digital world and you're operating in
an analog system. You have to be able to be
able to sort of drive your own messaging and use
your own tools on Instagram, on TikTok, her stop. If
this was a White House event, there should have been
clips on it, on her VP page and on the
potus page, on all of their social media accounts, and
(01:13:31):
I guarantee you you would have had more impressions than
the twenty six hundred that watched the feed on white
House dot gov.
Speaker 10 (01:13:38):
Robert final comonfug Go to Break.
Speaker 12 (01:13:40):
So I'm going to give a very strange example because
the people I know in the campaign have said that's
because of Vice President Herricks's low poll numbers that they
feel like they can't put her out there as much
as we think that she should be out there. Numbers
came out this week for the female rappers, So the
SETSI read is not the number one stream female, She's
not the second. She's like fifth or six. She has
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a quarter of the stream to people like Dojakat and
Nicki Minaj. Album cell numbers came out. She's told twenty
eight thousand albums in the first week.
Speaker 5 (01:14:11):
What does this tell you?
Speaker 12 (01:14:12):
Ain't nobody listening to her music? But she has a
team behind her that make sure that everything she does
is in the press, that everything that she does, whether
people like the music or not, and it's showing up
in your new feed on your television. There's no reason
for me to know who the red is, but her
team make sure that I can't turn on social media
or television or any piece of black media without finding
these things out. Hire whoever the hell that is to
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work for Kamala Harris, make sure that you were pushing
that information out there. That's how you change public opinion
around an individual in an event by making sure that
you're putting the right people in the right place to
push that messaging outwork.
Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
All I'm saying is this is very simple when you
invest in with advertising, y'all. This is very simple when
you invest in advertising, being able to hire more people
to actually cover stuff, simple as that. But when you
don't invest, can't do it. That's how this thing works.
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And there's the reason why the CNN and New York
Times and these people are the size that they are,
and there's a reason why black on media is not
does not have skill, and that's why nearly all of
these black on media outlets aren't doing any real news
coverage out here on any of this stuff. They're just
repeating what other people say. And what I'm saying is
you have to understand how this is done. But I'm
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telling you, I don't know what they're When they unveiled
the Blacks for Biden Harris, which which I thought was
a week rollout again right now in June, in July,
the three weeks leading up to the convention, and right
after the convention, there should be conversations, town hall type
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discussions happening in cities in Milwaukee, in places in Georgia,
in North Carolina, in Arizona, in Georgia and other places
as well. And guess what utilized technology have that stuff
streamed out? Content going out and take questions if people
are gonna see here, and if you might not like
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that question, but still you can now give the answer
you do enough for HBCUs that's not true. Boom boom,
boom boom. That's where they have we have to be at.
And so I don't know what the strategies are thinking.
But I'm telling you this is why your black numbers
are so low. The data shows you didn't tell a
good story in twenty twenty one, two twenty three. So
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down twenty four folks don't actually know what the hell
you've been you've actually done in order to make the
country better. So that's just some free advice. All right,
I gotta go to break. I'll be right back roland
Mark unfiltered right here on the Blackstar Network. Lots more
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Speaker 10 (01:17:09):
Can't wait for that.
Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
Also to talk about what's happening in Illinois where cops
are ticketing students.
Speaker 10 (01:17:17):
The hell is going on there.
Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
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The Illinois school district is accus of allowing police we
used to target black students when handling discipline unlawfully. The
twenty five page complaint filed against the Rockford Public Schools
that was filed with the US Department of Education's Office
of Civil Rights, the National Center for Youth Law, and
the MacAuthor Justice Center, unless that Rockford police officers have
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been addressing minor behaviors that should be handled as an
educational matter by parents, teachers, and school leaders, and not
as a law enforcement matter by police.
Speaker 10 (01:20:29):
Officers, turn me down to discuss this.
Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
Jonathan Smith, the legal director of the MacAuthor Justice Center,
Nina Monfredo from the National Center for Youth Law, and
Zoe Lee, one of the attorneys handling the case, glad
to have all the three of you here, So Zoe,
I want to start with you. So, how long has
this been going on.
Speaker 7 (01:20:52):
In Rockford? To our knowledge?
Speaker 23 (01:20:55):
Has been going on for quite a long time. We've
tried to ask communities about when they were aware of
the issue beginning, and they've said the ones that I've
been able to talk to have all said that this
has been going on for as long as they've been
aware of And it's only recently come to light though,
since twenty nineteen, when some reporters in Illinois discovered that
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this issue was happening in Rockford and in fact all
across the state of Illinois.
Speaker 10 (01:21:21):
And we say, quite a long time.
Speaker 4 (01:21:22):
What are you talking? One year, two years, five years,
ten years.
Speaker 23 (01:21:27):
We can't really say because we only have data for
I believe up until twenty nineteen, but we believe that
it's been happening based on what communities have said for.
Speaker 7 (01:21:40):
However long before then.
Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
Jonathan, what are the tickets? What exactly are they? What
are they actually doing? What type of behavior?
Speaker 16 (01:21:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 24 (01:21:52):
Well, first, thank you Rovied for having us on this
evening to talk about this really important issue. And if
I could you just take a moment just to describe
for your viewers a little bit about the Rockford School District.
So this is the third largest school district in the
state of Illinois. We're talking about a district of nearly
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thirty thousand students over forty one schools. About a third
I think twenty six percent of white, thirty two percent Black,
thirty three percent Latinos are pretty equally divided among those
racial categories. But what that school district has done is
break on school resource officers, which are basically just a
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fancy name for police officers. So they've brought these police
officers into these schools and they have outsourced discipline to
these police officers. So if you are a child and
one of these schools in Rockford and you know, yell
at a teacher or do something that kids do all
the time, the response is not the teacher calling your parent,
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or like when I was a child, being sent to
the guidance counselor or detention. The response is for a
police officer, a Rockford Police Department officer, to come and
to intervene and to handle the situation. And what we've
seen is that not only are the police officers intervening,
they are issuing these municipal tickets, which are basically court
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citations to children saying because you have done an incident
in school, because you are a child, and children like
my own children misbehave all the time, because you've done that,
the response is that you're going to get a citation
that you have to go on a Wednesday to a
courthouse and have a proceeding, and if you are found liable,
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you could be responsible for paying hundreds of dollars to
the school district for simply being a child and acting
like a child.
Speaker 10 (01:23:56):
This sounds absolutely insane. I mean, what I'm trying.
Speaker 4 (01:24:05):
What I'm confused by here, uh, Nina, is wait a minute,
if if a kid yelled to the teacher, call up,
call a cop. Cop comes in, all right, come here,
here's a ticket. What the hell, Nina, go ahead, No.
Speaker 6 (01:24:31):
That is that is exactly right.
Speaker 7 (01:24:33):
It is absolutely outrageous.
Speaker 25 (01:24:35):
And you know that is we have seen that kids
have in Rockford have gotten tickets.
Speaker 26 (01:24:42):
For showing up at school and rock for when they
are maybe suspended or or something else and they just
they go to school and then they get a ticket
for that.
Speaker 23 (01:24:52):
And we.
Speaker 25 (01:24:54):
You know, we we see that, as you said, like
kids will get tickets for you know, just really normal
behaviors that that happen in classrooms and that we see
in Rockford, that black students are are targeted by our
PS staff for these referrals to the police that are
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in the school.
Speaker 10 (01:25:15):
Okay, so do y'all have how many tickets?
Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
Any idea how many students, how many tickets? Who's tracking
this anything? So I think, yeah, no, no, no, you
go ahead.
Speaker 24 (01:25:34):
So yeah, I was going to say, to Zoe's point earlier,
part of the challenge is that we just don't have data.
That it's hard to know exactly the scope and the
scale of what's happening. But we do know based on
the data we have so far that the tickets that
this is not going to be surprising to you or
to your audience, that you know, I said, the district
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is about a third white, a third black, a third
that Tito, it's not going to shock you to know
that the tickets are a third like, a third black, Black,
a third Latin. You know that black students are disproportionately
and exponentially more likely not only to be disciplined, but
to be ticketed and to be fined where they go
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to these proceedings, And I wanted Zoe to speak a
little bit because Zoe has actually gone to these hearings
in Rockford and she has seen firsthand the ways in
which black students are targeted, are profiled, and are really
impacted by these tickets.
Speaker 23 (01:26:34):
Yeah, So, first, I wanted to say that with regards
to the number of tickets in Rockford, we do have
data for the recent years. We don't have data for
years before before twenty nineteen. We know that this year, however,
and this year alone, as of March twenty fourth of
this school year, there were five hundred and ninety tickets
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issued in Rockford all.
Speaker 10 (01:26:56):
The way, five hundred and ninety.
Speaker 23 (01:26:58):
Tickets and nighty tickets as of March twenty fourth of
this school year alone, Right, So, just imagine all the
tickets that have been issued before that, tickets four years
prior that we don't have the data for.
Speaker 7 (01:27:10):
The scope is it's pretty huge. And I don't think we.
Speaker 23 (01:27:13):
Fully understand just how big it is yet, because we've
only been able to get data for the recent years,
and I have gone to these hearings. They happen on Wednesdays,
in the middle of a school day at one o'clock,
So when a kid gets.
Speaker 7 (01:27:26):
A ticket, they have to then leave school on a
Wednesday to attend these hearings, and they.
Speaker 23 (01:27:34):
I have seen, I want to say, I've gone to
at least a dozen of these hearings.
Speaker 7 (01:27:41):
Between the months of March and May.
Speaker 23 (01:27:45):
I went almost every single Wednesday, and every single time
I've gone, when there's a student that gets ticketed, they're
always a student of color. I've never in the times
i've gone, I've never seen a white student ticketed. And
they're there without counsel, they're they're a city attorney tells
them they have the option to either pay the fine
or to go to trial, and it's often framed in
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this sort of coercive way where it's like, if you
pay this fine, things will go away. So these families
and these kids, they feel pressured to pay these fines,
sometimes very big fines.
Speaker 10 (01:28:17):
Wow, I'm sorry when we say very very big fines.
Speaker 23 (01:28:20):
How much so default if a kid doesn't show up
at seven hundred and fifty dollars, and many kids don't
show up, so many.
Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
Have seven hundred fifty dollars.
Speaker 7 (01:28:29):
Seven hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
So so so it sounds this is what this is
what this sounds to me like this literally sounds to
me like what happened in Ferguson. We're essentially this was
a money making opera. This is this is a money
making operation. That's what this sounds like.
Speaker 23 (01:28:52):
No.
Speaker 24 (01:28:52):
I think that's why I will say, you know, I
actually worked at the Justice Department at the time that
we issued our find in Ferguson, and you are exactly
right that what we see is not only are these
policies targeting and discriminating again peoples of color, but these
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are actually money making schemes. They try to pay for
municipal services off the backs of low income communities and
people of color. And it's not just in policing. It's
happening in schools. It's happening far too often. And this
is not just a Rockford story. I mean this, we
have brought this complaint against Rockford, but the reality is that, like,
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give me a district in this country and any state,
and I think you will see similar practices happening.
Speaker 5 (01:29:44):
And so this is a nationwide problem.
Speaker 16 (01:29:47):
I think it's a crisis.
Speaker 24 (01:29:48):
I think it's something, as Zoe said, that people are
not paying attention to because it's often happening.
Speaker 5 (01:29:54):
You know on Wednesday at one o'clock.
Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
Where people are working.
Speaker 24 (01:29:57):
But the reality is that this is happening, and it
is having a devastating impact on families of color, on
kids of color, And the reality is that if the
goal of school is to educate our students to make
them into the leaders of tomorrow, having them interact with police,
having them get a ticket, having them go to court unrepresented,
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having them missed school in all of this does nothing
to further the educational outcomes of these students out of
the entire school community in Rockford.
Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
Wow, Nina final comment, Nina, go ahead, I think we
got you. I think you're on mute, Nina. I'm not
sure what's happening with Nina. Not sure we haveing Nina's audio.
(01:30:56):
We can't actually hear her, Nina.
Speaker 10 (01:30:59):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
Uh, let's see we can. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (01:31:03):
So it's a big year on mute.
Speaker 4 (01:31:05):
Okay, let me there you go, there you go, you
were there, whatever you just did?
Speaker 7 (01:31:11):
Okay, can you hear me now?
Speaker 10 (01:31:12):
Now we got you?
Speaker 8 (01:31:13):
Go?
Speaker 27 (01:31:13):
Okay, great, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 7 (01:31:15):
What was your question?
Speaker 10 (01:31:16):
Uh you'r a final comment?
Speaker 7 (01:31:18):
Oh my fine?
Speaker 28 (01:31:19):
Yes, So you know, I think that was really important
to emphasize is just that, you know, we know that
all students can succeed when they feel safe and connected
at school, and we know that students who are experiencing
this police interaction at school feel less safe and less connected,
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and especially that's true when they.
Speaker 7 (01:31:41):
Receive these tickets for a school based behaviors. And what
we really want to achieve.
Speaker 26 (01:31:48):
Through this complaint is we you know, what we want
is we want all students in Rockford to feel, especially
black students, to feel safe and connected at school. And
we're hoping that this complaint is the you know, first
step helping students, helping the environment be a place where
students can feel that way and can succeed.
Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
Absolutely, this is again unbelievable. Last question, what's been the
response of the school district?
Speaker 23 (01:32:21):
Well, when reporters reach out to them from common they
said that they had no response and would not have
the response until OCR, the Office for Civil Rights reached
out to them to initiate the investigation. So the school
has been pretty quiet about this so far.
Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
All right, go ahead.
Speaker 23 (01:32:40):
We're really hoping that once OCR initiates their investigation, this
is a thorough investigation and that they will be able
to work hopefully with Rockford to identify and solutions to
the problem that's ongoing.
Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
All right, then well look keep us abreast what happens
next in the story.
Speaker 16 (01:33:00):
Thank you?
Speaker 7 (01:33:01):
All right?
Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
You know this this here of what we just heard there,
Derek again, I go back to what I said about Ferguson.
I mean, this is a way to make money. And
when you give people, give people no option. And then
one if you know, students are not showing up like
boom seven fifty seven fifty I mean, hell right there,
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twenty kids don't show up, y'all, just May fifteen grand
and this plumbs people deeper into debt. And you know,
I get, first of all, I get the federal investigation.
Where's Governor Pritzker? Where are state officials? You know, I
you know, this is where you know, I wonder where's
(01:33:45):
they Attorney General Kami Roll? Where's the head of education
in Illinois on this on this issue?
Speaker 5 (01:33:52):
You know, Roland, You know, I had so many questions
that came to mind.
Speaker 14 (01:33:57):
I ran and got my calculator because and they said
seven hundred and fifty dollars and there were five hundred
and ninety tickets since March that came up to four
hundred and forty two thousand dollars. And I was asking
the other part of my question was what are the infractions?
You know, what are the infraction? What can be you know,
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what is the what could be.
Speaker 5 (01:34:21):
Worth seven hundred and fifty dollars?
Speaker 14 (01:34:24):
And when you think about those infractions, and they mentioned
the demographics breakdown, and I'm just saying to myself as
a as a father of seven children.
Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
You know I can't.
Speaker 5 (01:34:37):
I would be appalled as a parent.
Speaker 14 (01:34:40):
So You're right, it's not just the Department of Justice
Civil Rights Office, but the local community.
Speaker 5 (01:34:48):
I mean, it should be an uproar.
Speaker 14 (01:34:50):
And so I appreciate you bringing this story to light
because now I have questions right here in Atlanta as
it relates to the SROs and what that legislation looks
like here in the state of Georgia in terms of
what are the infractions? You know, do SROs get involved
in every scenario, every situation, because I only see this
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as increasing the pipeline to prison, because what happens if
that child or that family do not pay this seven
hundred and fifty dollars?
Speaker 5 (01:35:25):
Does it get escalated? Are we talking about jail time?
There's just so many.
Speaker 14 (01:35:30):
There's just a plethora of questions that come to mind
as a father, and so I appreciate you bringing this
story to light because we do need to follow this.
And yes to the guests that mentioned, I'm sure this
is happening across all the United States because it's just
appalling when a child is being penalized for an infraction
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and that price is seven hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 12 (01:35:57):
Robert, this is an epidemic around the country that this
is just a touch. You can look at almost any
district as normally along socioeconomic lines that the poor schools
have this sort of enforcement against them.
Speaker 10 (01:36:11):
Where poor students are have a.
Speaker 12 (01:36:13):
Minor infraction, they're basically indoctrinated into the criminal justice system
at a young age, versus the wealthy schools where they
would never put Bear and Trump into handcuffs because of something.
You are the Chelsea Clinton or those children. This is
only something that's done to poor kids in this country.
And we have to start reforming our system to stop
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considering our schools to be almost holding tanks and holding areas,
but rather institutions of education. And this is a place
where we're going to have to have some federal guidance
coming into place. When we're talking about other things the
administration can do that will put some that will put
some national standards on honds, that will treat children instead
of treating them like they're the future aimates of America.
Speaker 7 (01:36:57):
Rebecca, Robert and Derek are right.
Speaker 13 (01:37:01):
But I will also add this system isn't broken. It's
doing exactly what it was designed to do. Anytime you
have an institution that was designed in racism to figure
out ways to take the freely, the formerly enslaved black
folks and make them free, and then now you have
a system designed to round them up, stick them in prison,
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make money off of basically slave labor in prison, then.
Speaker 7 (01:37:25):
It's literally doing what it is designed to do.
Speaker 13 (01:37:27):
So even from a public policy perspective, why the hell
would you put SROs into public schools. It does not
make any sense at all because it further entrenches the school.
Speaker 7 (01:37:38):
The prison pipeline. So I would never say the system
is broken.
Speaker 13 (01:37:42):
I'm saying it is efficiently and very fat doing what
it was designed to do, which is the further incarcerrat
black people in this country.
Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
All right, folks, hold that one second, we come back
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Isabella Cordero has been missing for Philadelphia since May twenty
at the twelve year old, his five feet five inches tall,
weighs one hundred and forty pounds, with brown hand, brown
eyes and know. One with information about Isabella Cordero should
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eight six eight four seven seven two one five six
eight six eight four seven seven. The Virginia NAACP is
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assumed a county school board for rebranding schools with Confederate names.
The lawsuit alleges at the Shenandoah County School Board violated
the US Constitution, Title six, the Civil Rights Act in
nineteen sixty four, and the Equal Educational Opportunity Act by
renaming the schools on May tenth, the Shenandoah County School
Board reversed a twenty twenty decision by a previous board
(01:40:44):
to rename two schools after Confederate generals. In twenty twenty,
one of the schools on the division South campus, which
included North Fork Middle were renamed Stonewall Jackson High School
to Mountain View and Ashby Lee Minary School to Honey Run.
The Plainters seek to remove the Confederate names, mascots and
(01:41:05):
Mike's uh relics, and to prevent any future school naming
including Confederate leaders or references to the Confederacy. This and
so you you had this school board who makes this
decision and electures that actually took place as well.
Speaker 23 (01:41:20):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (01:41:20):
And what's what's crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:41:22):
To me here is they actually think this is a
good idea.
Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:41:27):
And in fact, you know, you've got so many other
leaders who've spoken out on this. And this goes to
show you right here, Rebecca. While he was saying who
are the folks today? Did Republicans love talking about old
Democrats built the KKK and Democrats were again with supporting slavery?
(01:41:48):
Who are the people today? That's full throw the support
of the Confederacy Republicans.
Speaker 7 (01:41:56):
Better than that. To Byron Donalds.
Speaker 4 (01:42:01):
You know, so where.
Speaker 13 (01:42:04):
Where's the few institute, the few research institution with this?
Speaker 7 (01:42:09):
Like I'm still tripping off of being told that it's all.
Speaker 13 (01:42:11):
Conspiracy theories in my little black head, because I understand
that there's certain institutions and mechanisms of power in this
country that do stuff to the detriment of black vocus.
Speaker 7 (01:42:22):
This is crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
We know what it is.
Speaker 13 (01:42:25):
And shame on shame of that school district of thinking
it's okay because it's been what four years since we
had the racial awakening to think that we're going to
forget that we demanded for all these Confederate flags, Confederate statues,
and other Confederate like weird memorabilia to come down. It
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does not deserve a place in modern American society.
Speaker 16 (01:42:49):
Robert.
Speaker 12 (01:42:51):
You know, it's interesting to me because it's only these Confederates.
They have this sort of certain fetish for the losers
of history. They're not trying to You're never going to
see them have a Hitler High School or Stalin High
School or Polepot High School. But it's because they have
this fetish that somehow the South will rise again. In
their minds, and they'll be able to restore the great
(01:43:11):
days of Dixie when you when the blacks were on
the plantation, happily singing, and they were just on top
of the world. They have to keep hearkening back to
this time. You see this in dying empires often, this
reverend for what they consider to be the Pats Americana,
when the South was truly a place where the white
Southerners believe they were in a complete dominion among above
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African Americans. I ask these people, why why is this
so important to you? Why are this Confederate General is
so important to you? Why is it so important to
harken back.
Speaker 10 (01:43:42):
To this time?
Speaker 12 (01:43:43):
And it comes down to one thing. They want to
believe that one day we will return to that period
of white supremacy. And so it's important to continue to
fight against these symbols because once you begin to normalize it,
once you begin to allow them to change the story,
as we're already seeing them begin to change the story
of history right now. That is how you allow these
things to rise. Them with testicize Again, have you noticed
(01:44:05):
for Jewish Americans and the Jewish community internationally, they don't
let anything slip when it comes to anything regarding the
Holocaust or Nazis or what happened to them. We have
to be just individual when it comes to our history
and our legacy because the passes that have it a
repeating itself.
Speaker 14 (01:44:20):
Derek, you know, one of the things that two things
I would add, you know, today news broke that how
the Republicans going to use Georgia as a test for
this year's election, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (01:44:37):
Like, well, why Georgia.
Speaker 14 (01:44:39):
Well, because in Georgia they have a Republican governor, they
got a Republican lieutenant governor that is indicted. He's one
of the fake electors, and already in Fultein County. Uh,
they tested this whole thing about the system is rigged.
And so while they're doing something in Virginia, they try
to you know, basically rolling, you know, distract us on
(01:45:02):
what they're really trying to do as it relates to
Project twenty twenty five. They're trying to make sure that
they undergirth all their infrastructure around our voting, around all
things anti black from DEI, CRT, banning books. They're just
trying to keep us distracted because we're galvanizing and we
(01:45:23):
can see them for who they are. We understand this
misinformation and disinformation and how we galvanize. You know, one
of our brothers in our beloved fraternity, he's calling on
a march later on this month around the Poor People campaign.
And they're seeing how this growth of fifteen million of
(01:45:46):
us coming to Washington, d C.
Speaker 5 (01:45:50):
And speaking our truth.
Speaker 14 (01:45:52):
And so that's the reason why they're just trying to
enshrine all those things of the past. They don't want
to talk about the past because it makes their grandchildren
see them as a very ugly creature. And so these
same folks who want to relive wherever they want to go,
back to Jim Crow or back to reconstruction period, they're
(01:46:15):
trying to hold on something that's slowly but surely slipping away,
because the browning of America will continue to grow.
Speaker 23 (01:46:23):
And that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (01:46:26):
Folks's going to Arkansas, where a learning actor is being
challenged by a new lawsuit claiming it violates the state constitution.
The four planes from across the state file the suit
against the Department of Education and Secretary Jacob Oliva, the
Department of Financial and Administration, as well as the Secretary,
plus God Sarah Huckabe Sanders the eight members of the
state Board of Education with the intent of stopping the
(01:46:48):
Educational Freedom Account program. The program, often called vouchers, is
designed to allow the state to use public tax dollars
to pay for kids to go to private schools in
the name of school choice. Contend that the funds for
the vouchers will be taken it from public schools, going
against the Constitution's requirement as the state maintain a system
(01:47:08):
of free public schools, and that school funds another state
can be used for anything other than public schools. What
we're seeing here, we're seeing Republicans all across the country.
Robert do this.
Speaker 10 (01:47:20):
They're focused on.
Speaker 4 (01:47:21):
You see it in Texas, Governor Greg Abbott held up
funding public schools to force him to pass his voucher bill.
It failed. What he then did target those Republicans that
voted against it, and number of them lost for reelection.
We see it happening in Tennessee. We see it happening
in Pennsylvania and other places. And look, I'm somebody who
supports school choice, but I believe school choice. I believe
(01:47:45):
programs like this should be for the least of these.
It should be for the people who are in schools
that have the highest failure rates, as opposed to allowing
frankly white suburban parents who kids don't even go to
public school to get more of that money for them
to go to private schools. That's we're seeing what these
Republican laid voucher scams across the country.
Speaker 12 (01:48:07):
Absolutely, and as a representative just said, if you look
at Project twenty twenty five, they're making a direct assault
on the educational system. They say the first thing they
will do is get rid of the Department of Education.
They want to destroy the teachers unions. They want to
destroy public education because they're now understanding that that education
(01:48:28):
is the ephemeral causeway to success. And you let these
poor black and brown kids start getting the education. Now
they start competing with them for jobs, they start competing
with them for resources. You're standing a few too many
of them on college campuses, and they're showing up on boardrooms.
That's why they're going after diversity, equity and inclusion programs.
That's why you saw the Supreme Court come down against
affirmative action programs in higher education. They are making a
(01:48:50):
full frontal assault on the educating of the next generation
of young children, and a believe that they can keep
them dumb, they get to maintain their position of white
supremacy in this country. Don't these things are not all
intertwined and interconnected as part of a larger plan to
dumb down Black America to make us easier to control.
Speaker 14 (01:49:08):
Derek, you know, Roland, I mean Robert and spot On.
The only thing I would add to Roberts's point is this, Roland.
The other thing that they're also coming after is our vote.
And so they're trying to put a narrative in our
communities and saying your vote doesn't matter, right, they don't.
They're not doing anything for the Black community. And the
(01:49:29):
reason why we know that that's not true because they
realized when we showed up in two thousand and eight,
in twenty twelve, and oh yeh, by the way, when
Georgia showed up in twenty twenty and got not just
say the first Jew, but a first brother that represents
the United States Senate, that we are the reason why
(01:49:52):
in Georgia that we have a Katanji Brown Jackson.
Speaker 5 (01:49:55):
And so we realize what they're trying to do.
Speaker 14 (01:49:58):
It is a full frontal attack on every aspect that
we demand for them to do for us, and that
is simply, you hold the same laws towards us against
everyone else. And so while they try to do this
false equivalency rolling right now with Trump being a convicted
(01:50:20):
felon and now they talk about Hunter Biden and how
black men can relate to him because he has reco charges.
We know that's a lie, right And there's no black
man that I am aware of, associate themselves with anyone
that broke the law.
Speaker 5 (01:50:41):
But that's a narrative that they're trying to put in
our community.
Speaker 14 (01:50:44):
And so they want to use fifty cent or whoever
else and think that we want to take on that mindset.
Speaker 4 (01:50:51):
Folks says, still going to Michigan and the lead singer
of the Lagid, their motown group before Tops claim he
was put into restraints and denied treatment for a severe
heart problem after Michigan medical personnel did not believe that
he was a member of the group. Alexander Morris, who
joined the Four Tops in twenty eighteen, found a lawsuit
in federal court this week accusing Ascension Macomb Oakland Hospital
(01:51:13):
of racial discrimination and negligence. Mars was taken to the
hospital's emergency room in April twenty twenty three with chest
pains and difficulty breathing. When he told a nurse and
a security guard that he was a member of the
Four Tops and had security concerns over fans and stalkers,
lawsuit contends staff members assumed he was mentally ill. Mowris
(01:51:35):
was placed in restraints and referred to a psychiatrist. Morris
was released after showing a nurse a video a recent
Four Tops performance that is flat out insane. All right, folks,
when we come back, Wark Done is doing the work
of helping single mothers get into Holmes. I was in
(01:51:59):
his golf tournament on Monday, and we're gonna show you
some of that good work that he's doing here for
him as well. You're watching Rolling Martin Unfiltered on the
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On Monday, I was in Atlanta where Work Done had
his eleventh annual Celebrity Golf Classic. And that's why I
wasn't at the June teenth concert at the White House,
because I was there, and so it was an opportunity
to of course raise money for his charity. A lot
(01:55:59):
of people know the story, but maybe they don't, uh,
when it comes to how he over the years and
really helping out uh M single families get into homes,
helping them with uh resources, things of that nature. And
so uh here was one of the folks uh who
told her story about how work done really helped her
(01:56:22):
and her family out uh in two thousand eighteen.
Speaker 32 (01:56:26):
Did he near every one? So I'm a kidah. I
got into this program with Ward because of what happened
as almost be the livey dowl. I was in that
apartment and I was working into twice in one one
they came back. They sold the stuff the first time.
Speaker 33 (01:56:46):
However, they came back because they lived with power corpse
to the game constant, so they came back to get that.
Speaker 32 (01:56:51):
And at that point I sold the conflicts. You know,
I'm done. So we moved out back in my with
my mother.
Speaker 33 (01:56:59):
Apply I for Habitat for Humanity with several president in
twenty fifteen.
Speaker 32 (01:57:04):
While going through the program.
Speaker 33 (01:57:05):
I did a lot of volunteering, helping application workshops, painting
home screaming, working at the restore.
Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
That they have.
Speaker 33 (01:57:15):
I I wanted somewhere to staying for my kids and
I to have to put root roots down.
Speaker 32 (01:57:20):
And start to make great memories to last the lifetime.
We're a glass to have.
Speaker 3 (01:57:24):
Our home built.
Speaker 32 (01:57:25):
At the time, my stidents were eight and twelve. They're
now nineteen fifteen.
Speaker 33 (01:57:31):
While the while in the building process, unknownst to myself,
but my mother Dow worked on Charity's tad chosen my.
Speaker 32 (01:57:38):
Home, which is a f They're one hundred and fifty
first over the holiday residing in November of twenty sixteen.
So on the day of I got a call to
go back to the office instead of going straight to
the house for the home education that was that I
Aven was having me. I'm like, why am I going
here instead of just going there? Aren't you gonna have
paperwork to do? I'm like, oh and more papers?
Speaker 3 (01:58:00):
Okay.
Speaker 33 (01:58:01):
So then I'm like, okay, we're ready to go. We're
just sitting here and not going think, Okay, where we're
gonna go. So I didn't know that there was another
way to get in to my subdivision, so I was like,
where are you going?
Speaker 32 (01:58:11):
So like, so we pulled up, I see cars like
down the road. I was like, okay, so I'm a
big event.
Speaker 4 (01:58:15):
It's kind of morning.
Speaker 6 (01:58:17):
So I was like, what's going on?
Speaker 32 (01:58:19):
So we closed and I'm like wait, that's that's my
n like about those people.
Speaker 7 (01:58:23):
So we get closer.
Speaker 32 (01:58:24):
So Jennifer, she no longer would habitat She's just smiling
and carrying on. And I see this little this person
walking through the yard. I was like, it's oh my,
I said, that's working.
Speaker 4 (01:58:34):
She was like, be like you know him.
Speaker 32 (01:58:35):
I was like, yes, I'm football here.
Speaker 13 (01:58:37):
Yes, I like you talking to.
Speaker 9 (01:58:39):
The car and he was like you know who I am.
Speaker 32 (01:58:40):
I'm like yes, I said, you used to favor august Wood.
Speaker 3 (01:58:43):
You went to Tampo.
Speaker 32 (01:58:43):
That's okay.
Speaker 9 (01:58:47):
He was like, no, I'm retired or a plan.
Speaker 32 (01:58:49):
I said, no, you're retired. I know little something. But
that's how I got introduced with him. My little football too,
so I thought that was cool.
Speaker 33 (01:58:57):
So we did the dedication and everything. I would say
on my money, you give me to my mom. Like
I was still favoring because I wanted to buy furniture.
Friend new I had gave everything my storage away cause
I felt like somebody els couldn't use that more than me.
Speaker 32 (01:59:11):
And so when I more gave the kids and I
opened the door, it was a river flowing.
Speaker 33 (01:59:18):
Because I didn't know that every room was done down
to details that I wanted to.
Speaker 32 (01:59:22):
Go fireplace with the TV, comes to food, refrigerate. The
cabinis like I.
Speaker 33 (01:59:29):
Didn't have to buy somebody to score like a year,
cause happen when we moved in there, So thank you
for that. And during that process there was one person
I always said, Oh, you can't ever hold water.
Speaker 32 (01:59:42):
You always tell me something before something happens, which is
my mom. She didn't say any thing, so that was
her biggest challenge. So when it finally happened, she was like, speaks.
I told her, you were placed, and do you know
how blessed you were.
Speaker 33 (01:59:57):
My two favorite animals are butterflies and elephants, so they
took that and he and my still word ass or
applied something.
Speaker 32 (02:00:03):
And my bathroom was that decorated with the Royal Elements school.
So in clothing, I would like to thank.
Speaker 7 (02:00:11):
God for that.
Speaker 33 (02:00:11):
You work done into churches and supporters to help me
make having my first home an amazing experience.
Speaker 32 (02:00:19):
Even do I cry like a baby to this day.
Speaker 33 (02:00:22):
I can call him or Nancy asks some questions, get ideas.
Speaker 32 (02:00:27):
He come paining to my son's graduation. Nancy came to
my son's coming home party.
Speaker 33 (02:00:32):
He's in the National Guard so she came to that
and they so they keep in touch with does and
make sure they we're still doing it.
Speaker 32 (02:00:38):
So from my little family, Colleen, my son, sorry, my
daughter was over there as well, and thank you for
everything that you do and continue to do.
Speaker 4 (02:00:54):
Uh and uh course uh the next day, uh we
were playing and uh I caught up with Wark, got
a chance to talk with him about the foundation and
the work that he does.
Speaker 7 (02:01:06):
So if you are starting on holes six through nine,
my golf professional already probably talked to you. Hole six
through nine is gonna exit to.
Speaker 4 (02:01:14):
My right to your left.
Speaker 7 (02:01:16):
If you were not starting on whole six through nine, any.
Speaker 17 (02:01:18):
Other hole, just head right out of the stage area
and we got a golf pro there that will direct
you from there.
Speaker 18 (02:01:25):
So once again, thank you for supporting the WDC event
and being out here today.
Speaker 4 (02:01:32):
To help along the community.
Speaker 5 (02:01:34):
So thanks again.
Speaker 7 (02:01:36):
One last thing, we're gonna flip our cart.
Speaker 5 (02:01:38):
Key to the off.
Speaker 3 (02:01:39):
Position back to the on position.
Speaker 2 (02:01:41):
We gotta lit THEA batteries. They just go to sleep
with their harbor for a while.
Speaker 32 (02:01:45):
The only time you'll have to do it today and
it is time you all can head out here star holes.
Speaker 2 (02:01:49):
Have very day. Thanks again, get them.
Speaker 34 (02:02:07):
Well, friend, my brother got lads.
Speaker 2 (02:02:17):
Make work's appreciate a man think.
Speaker 5 (02:02:18):
You gotta think.
Speaker 2 (02:02:23):
Out, you appreciate it out.
Speaker 5 (02:02:27):
Okay, you gonna sign me.
Speaker 2 (02:02:28):
You're gonna find me.
Speaker 14 (02:02:29):
A car to day after your birthday.
Speaker 34 (02:02:33):
I mean where.
Speaker 4 (02:02:40):
I was on time just to hear your speech.
Speaker 10 (02:02:47):
Right away, the old time your speech, Carol, I think about.
Speaker 3 (02:02:59):
Right here, Bud.
Speaker 4 (02:03:01):
All right, we're real quick. Just talk about the the
work that you're doing and how to really really impacts
these families in a huge way.
Speaker 34 (02:03:13):
Well everyone knows about well everyone thinks I giveaway house
and I don't, but I do help single parent families
who will becoming first time homeowners by.
Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
I'm giving them five thousand.
Speaker 34 (02:03:26):
Dollars down payment assistants in a head no doubt down
fayment assistance to help create more balance.
Speaker 2 (02:03:34):
Stable life for themselves and for these two years, and
thank you.
Speaker 8 (02:03:38):
And I grew up in that environment and that.
Speaker 34 (02:03:40):
Was my mom's dream of home ownership and never have
an opportunity to achieve that dream. I've started this program,
all this going to be twenty seven years in November,
and we've been able to help.
Speaker 2 (02:03:52):
Two hundred and twenty three single parent families.
Speaker 13 (02:03:55):
Who will become the first time homes.
Speaker 2 (02:03:57):
I bet you appreciated it. Thank you, this is thack.
Speaker 5 (02:04:01):
Yeah, you appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (02:04:05):
How does it feel when you when you the look
on the face of these uh kids and the adults.
Speaker 34 (02:04:11):
Yeah, you know, it's it's a life changing Once you
hand the keys over to the recipients, I mean you
see their reactions.
Speaker 2 (02:04:21):
They are like so thank usually it said.
Speaker 34 (02:04:23):
You know, we always try to do a surprise. Some
people know about the program. But when you hand those
keys over, that is a life changing moment. And when
they get the walk through that.
Speaker 2 (02:04:32):
Door, I mean your your speechess.
Speaker 34 (02:04:35):
I mean, it's it's one of those opportunities and memories
that no one would ever forget because now you've gotten
the keys to your home.
Speaker 2 (02:04:45):
But you get to open that door and you walk
through and see.
Speaker 34 (02:04:48):
All the things that we have done h in the home,
and we've tried to tailor the home.
Speaker 2 (02:04:52):
To those individuals. So we're trying to personalize more things
and just create a much more.
Speaker 34 (02:04:58):
Stable environment, long time for families, so that the outcomes
of kids are performing better.
Speaker 2 (02:05:05):
In school, much more engaged in their community.
Speaker 34 (02:05:07):
It's you know, better relationships with your parents and you know,
it's just a lot of benefits to have an a
stable house.
Speaker 2 (02:05:14):
You bet kids can grow up in and create memoris.
So it's just, you know, it's definitely special.
Speaker 4 (02:05:19):
Last question, a lot of people really don't understand a
lot of the things that are current and former athletes
are doing out in the community.
Speaker 5 (02:05:27):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:05:29):
I come a lot of this stuff, but people just
don't really understand their impact.
Speaker 10 (02:05:33):
It goes beyond sports.
Speaker 34 (02:05:34):
Yeah, well if every rud just looks at those as
athletes and not as human beings.
Speaker 2 (02:05:38):
A lot of times, for myself, you know, I love sports.
Speaker 34 (02:05:42):
I mean I grew up playing school and see all
those things, played professional football, but my passion.
Speaker 8 (02:05:48):
Is really the people.
Speaker 2 (02:05:50):
I was passionate about football, but it wasn't my life.
And my life is really about how do I, you know,
impact and take.
Speaker 34 (02:06:00):
Here or give people an opportunity because I don't believe
in giving anything anybody.
Speaker 2 (02:06:04):
We all have to work for the things that we asked.
So if we could help people help themselves, I mean,
that's what it's really about. There's a lot of.
Speaker 35 (02:06:11):
Athletes that are doing a lot of great work, and
I think they need to get that variety and really,
you know, show that you know, Yeah, we could be
great athletes and we're gonna, you know, make some money,
but we do care about our.
Speaker 2 (02:06:24):
Communities if we don't want to get back to you
any And I'm just thinking.
Speaker 34 (02:06:28):
That I could have all the athletes that come out,
you know.
Speaker 2 (02:06:31):
The ways what I'm doing my lass is like giving
the other individuals and can find the days of what
you do.
Speaker 5 (02:06:38):
And I'm definitely going after beams.
Speaker 34 (02:06:40):
Or holistic when it comes to go with all the
ship in those services that help your families be stable
in a long time.
Speaker 4 (02:06:48):
All right, sounds good.
Speaker 12 (02:06:49):
I frecill you out.
Speaker 2 (02:06:50):
I appreciate you coming out. Of course, I know you're
not athletes, but you know you, you know your personality, so.
Speaker 4 (02:06:59):
There you gonna fish. Absolutely appreciate that. So it was
great being out there, and so the two journalists who
are of course celebrities in the tournament, my man Mike
Hill with Fox Sports and myself as well. And so yeah,
folks like Sterling Sharp who was out there, Bo Jackson
(02:07:21):
and so many others. And the reason it's called Home
Full Holidays because folks may not know the story, but
Warwick's mother was a police officer in Baton Rouge, Louisiana,
and she took extra shifts. She always wanted to own
a home, and in nineteen ninety three, in a robbery,
she was shot and killed. When he was a senior
in high school. And so that's why it's called Home
(02:07:42):
for the Holidays. That's the program that they do and
the thing I ask the thing I asked them there, Derek,
which I think was important. Again, we spend so much
time looking at professional athletes and talking about their exports
on the field, but people really have no idea that
type of work that a lot of athletes are doing
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in our communities across this country.
Speaker 14 (02:08:06):
Yeah, listen, I think you did an outstanding job rolling
covering this work done event. And of course, living right
here in Atlanta, I know his story as well. But
you can't help but to recognize those athletes who are
making a positive change in our communities. Just recently, again,
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I was in the barbershop and someone asked a question, well,
who's doing something in the black community? And I use
Lebron James as an example. All right, Lebron James learned
to do in the community from role models like Warn't
done right.
Speaker 5 (02:08:47):
He worked done, took a very.
Speaker 14 (02:08:49):
Tragic event in his life and turning into something positive
to over two hundred families. And so we need to
do more coverage around this space, like what you're doing,
because a lot of folks just look at.
Speaker 5 (02:09:07):
These athletes as athletes.
Speaker 14 (02:09:09):
They don't look at the aspect that they're human beings
and that they're instrumental in our communities making positive change.
Speaker 4 (02:09:18):
You know, Rebecca, You know folks always there was like, man,
you playing all these celebrity tournaments. They don't realize whether
it's this one Anthony Anderson's tournament, City Entertainer helps Boys
and Girls Club, George Lopez's tournament providing kids to go
to kidney camp.
Speaker 10 (02:09:36):
I look at the work that Dwayne Wade.
Speaker 4 (02:09:37):
Does A lawns of morning does It used to be
something longs of morning summer groove, Now it's the winter groove.
And I just think that it's important for us to
know what a lot of these Hall of FAMERUS superstars
are doing because they are impacting and changing lives. I
mean this mother here, I mean they've moved in their
home six years ago. And Warwick said when he spoke
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on at the Parents Party, ninety two percent of the
people if they've helped get in homes are still in
those homes.
Speaker 13 (02:10:09):
You know, it's very important to see when we see athletes,
when we see entertainers, those who have a certain economic
wealth to give back into.
Speaker 7 (02:10:18):
Communities, very communities that they came from. It's very good.
Speaker 13 (02:10:23):
So, like a couple of years ago, when we heard
a lot of pushback with Lebron James say you need
to shut up and dribble, absolutely not, because we can
go and look at the funding of the civil rights movement.
Understanding it was a lot of our black stars who
funded to make sure that King and other people could
travel and actually have money to do the things that
they were doing. I think that is the type of
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ecosystem that we need in the black community. Many times
we talk about being beholding to other people outside of
our communities. So if we don't want that to happen,
then that means that we have to raise the money
and put the money behind these good things that it's
in the best entry of our communities.
Speaker 5 (02:11:01):
Robert, you know, it's a great thing.
Speaker 12 (02:11:03):
And I'm glad that people like you can actually cover
these events because otherwise they'd get no coverage on media.
Speaker 10 (02:11:10):
Well absolutely uh.
Speaker 4 (02:11:11):
And you know when we go there and you know
in terms of you know, like I say, players out
there and you know we're sitting here.
Speaker 8 (02:11:18):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:11:18):
You know, there was the local radio station out there,
sports station. They were broadcast from out there as well. Again,
when you see the likes of like I say, Bo
and Bo Jackson, Sterling, Sharp, Marcus Allen, Uh, I mean
you had some some some really big names out there
of these guys who who were of course supporting what
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work is doing.
Speaker 3 (02:11:40):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:11:40):
You know Gary Sheffield also out there as well. And
so some of the other players give me the second
I want to give. I want to give them a
shout out as well.
Speaker 10 (02:11:52):
Let me say, if I can.
Speaker 4 (02:11:53):
Find the list here of the names that they had there,
Will Allen, ed Reid was out there. We had a
good chance up to to see Cordell Stewart, DJ Shockley,
William Floyd, Harrold Green, Carolyn Moose, w NBA player, Alge Crumpler,
Brian Fennery and Fred McRae, Ray Buchannan, Terrence Matthews, who's
(02:12:14):
now the head football coach at Morehouse College. To cut
to Kale Spikes, as I said of a man, Mike Keill, Sterling, Sharp,
Bo Jackson, this team.
Speaker 10 (02:12:23):
They came in first, Stirling's team came in third.
Speaker 4 (02:12:26):
Uh So it was great again to see all the
folks out there, and so we appreciate the three of
you all be on the show.
Speaker 10 (02:12:32):
Derek, Rebecca and Robert. Thank you so very much. Folks.
Speaker 5 (02:12:35):
That is it for us.
Speaker 10 (02:12:37):
We're gonna see y'all tomorrow. Don't forget.
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Later you'll be seeing a lot restream of Vice President
Kamala Harris and Charlotte.
Speaker 10 (02:12:44):
We'll have that for you as well. Oh I did.
Speaker 4 (02:12:46):
I said that I was gonna on one second, I
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and Reverend James Lawson. So give me one second.
Speaker 16 (02:13:01):
Where is it?
Speaker 10 (02:13:02):
Give me one sick?
Speaker 4 (02:13:07):
So where was the post? Was on her VP page?
Was it on her It was on the VP page?
Give me one second. I wanted to go ahead and
read that. We actually be read Vice We read President
Biden's tribute to James Lawson.
Speaker 2 (02:13:21):
This is it.
Speaker 4 (02:13:21):
Reverend James Lawson was a titan of the civil rights
movement and architect of non violent protests and the mentors
to many of our nation's young organizers.
Speaker 10 (02:13:28):
For more than sixty years.
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