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I'm doctor Dvids Jones Weaver sitting in for Roland Martin
tonight and here's what's coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered
streaming live on the Black spar and Atwort Project twenty
twenty five was the topic on Capitol Hill. During today's
House Weaponization of the Federal Government Committee hearing, congress Woman
Stacey Plaskett warned everyone about the dangers of what will.

Speaker 6 (01:48):
Happen if Trump gets re elected.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
We'll show you what she said and you'll see the Lincoln.

Speaker 9 (01:53):
Project's predictions about the damage four more years of Trump
will do.

Speaker 6 (01:58):
While First Lady Jim was.

Speaker 9 (02:00):
On the campaign trail to drum up support from military families,
she explained why Trump is an equal man.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
The family of a Florida Black man.

Speaker 9 (02:09):
Is disputing claims he fired his legal weapon at police
before they unleashed a barrage of bullets into his body.
We'll talk to the attorneys representing daniel Lewis's family. Today
is Black Women's Equal Payday. We'll examine the pay disparities
and talk to the CEO of the American Association of
University Women about what they are doing to raise awareness

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about the wage gap that impacts Black women and their families.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
And we'll have another interview with Roland and two of
the Beverly.

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Hills Cop franchise actors talking about Netflix's Beverly Hills cop
axel f It's time to bring the funk on Roland
Martin unfiltered, streaming live on the Black Star Network.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
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Speaker 11 (03:02):
It is Roland.

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No Monte.

Speaker 9 (03:45):
We've talked about dangers of Trump's return to the White House.
One of these dangers is the Heritage Foundation's Project twenty
twenty five. Project twenty twenty five is a detailed description
of how a new far right presidential administration can take
over the country. Many of the policies listed in the
public nine hundred and twenty page agenda can be grouped

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into three core areas. First, gutting the US system of
checks and balances to consolidate power, next, taking away America's
fundamental personal freedoms, and finally raising costs in the middle
class to give the wealthy billions. At Today's House, weaponization
of the Federal Government Committee hearing Virgin Islands Delegates, Stacy

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Plasket breaks down Project twenty twenty five and how it
will dismantle structures, institutions, and the basic rights that have
supposedly been afforded to Americans to.

Speaker 14 (04:38):
Make it great.

Speaker 15 (04:40):
I especially like to thank witness, former US Federal prosecutor
and former United States Department of Justice Attorney Shan Wu,
My colleagues, thank you to the American people watching around
the country for joining another hearing of the Congressional Committee
to undermine America Independence and to defend Donald Trump. From

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the early days of our nation's formation, our founding fathers
were very clear the upkeep of democracy requires constant, proactive maintenance.
In his letters to fellow founding father and his political
opponent John Taylor, then former President John Adams wrote, democracy

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has never been and never can be, so durable as
aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts,
and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that
did not commit suicide. Those passions are the same in

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all men, under all forms of government, when unchecked, produced
the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty. American democracy
has always been a question of progress, not finality. Democracy
has been given to us with the blood, sweat, tears

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and efforts of Americans who came before us, who struggled
long and hard to build and protect every democratic institution
we have. Indeed, our country's dark pass the very foundation
of our economic juggernaut on the world was premised on
a sick institution called slavery that some now want to

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even erase this democracy that our ancestors struggled to bring
us all into. These rights, some of which some Americans
do not even have, all of are fragile. Remember that
the great Republic of.

Speaker 16 (06:44):
Rome was destroyed.

Speaker 15 (06:46):
Greece was destroyed, Germany of the early twentieth century destroyed Spain.
These great empires are gone. Human history is laden with
examples of great nations, republics, and democracy that were once
beacons of human progress and eventually destroyed by hubris, autocrats

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and the rabid ambitions of an empowered few. Falls do
not happen overnight, but the signs are there if you
want to see them. In those republics, those democracies. Slowly
but surely, rights are stripped away, my fellow Americans, that's

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happening here in this country. The right for a woman
to choose what to do with her body stripped away
in fifteen states, immigrant children being stripped away from their families,
the gains of blacks for fair representation, voting rights, recognition
of the historic lack of a playing fit, of creating
an even playing field stripped away. Slowly but surely, the

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structures the laws and the institutions intended to make the
nation great have been and continue to be eroded. It
not to mention the souls of the human race and
minorities being eroded every day by injustices. We have a
blueprint that we can see how that's being done. Project

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twenty twenty five plans to upend structures, institutions, and the
basic rights that have supposedly been afforded to Americans to
make it great. It's a playbook for Donald Trump's second
term and a plan for the destruction of America as
we know it. Despite flashy headlines printed over American flags
and the likes of obnoxious men who give loud speeches

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about their love for making America great again, Project twenty
twenty five delivers no such thing. Project twenty twenty five
will slowly, but sturely strip away our rights. I've asked
for a hearing about Project twenty twenty five because I
believe it is a dire warning to us all of

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an inn individual and others around him desire to weaponize
the government for their own empowerment. It will rip our
experts out of agencies to be replaced by sycophant political appointees.
It will strip women of even more health care access
and rights. It will further dehumanize undocumented immigrants and punish

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their family members, even those who are American citizens, for
daring to be associated with them. It will restrict free
speech in schools to only allow far right approved agendas
and curriculum. It will erode our freedoms, all under the
vague guise of making America great. And Yes, because it

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is a grand Republican plan, Project twenty twenty five calls
for severe cuts to Medicare and Social Security. I'm not
just saying that the authors of Project twenty twenty five,
we're saying that here's a video digent outline. Only twenty
five believe that a woman should be able to have
an abortion if her doctor says that she needs one's

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a yes.

Speaker 17 (10:09):
Or no question.

Speaker 18 (10:10):
Abortion is not healthcare out of a murder of a
human being.

Speaker 19 (10:13):
We are also going to have teams because we can
multitask to deconstruct the administrative state and to go after
criminals in the traders in the deep state.

Speaker 20 (10:27):
So suck on that we need to have the biggest
mass deportation system ever in the history of America because
it is unjust and illegal and evil that more than
ten million illegal aliens have come to this country. There
are great plans using the Department of Homeland Security to
return to these people back to south.

Speaker 11 (10:43):
Of the border.

Speaker 21 (10:44):
The best thing that people can do right now, if
you're a young person, is getting involved in one of
these things like American Moment or Project twenty twenty five.
For the Trump campaign, we got to fill up the
White House with.

Speaker 20 (10:55):
Roy pers Project twenty twenty five is something that's going
to transcend the next four years, the next ten years.
It really is, for the first time of the history
of the conservative movement, the apparatus for policy and personnel.
We are in the process of the Second American Revolution,
which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.

Speaker 15 (11:15):
Playing patriotic music, claiming to love freedom, demonizing every group
in the nation that is not like you, will not
protect you and your civil rights. The Project twenty twenty
five playbook is a plan to give Donald Trump the
powers of a dictator, just as he wants.

Speaker 14 (11:33):
That's the plan.

Speaker 15 (11:35):
This is the man who threatened to send the Department
of Justice after political opponents. Trump even sent his lawyers
to the Supreme Court to argue that he should have
criminal immunity even if he uses the military to assassinate
someone who simply disagrees with him. We heard his secretary
of Defense say that he asked the military to shoot

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people because they were protesting. Yes, that's what his defense
secretary said on TV, and there's recordings of it. This
is the man who jokes about being a dictator just
for a day and teases the idea of a third
term for a US president. This is a man who
wants to implement sick offant loyalty tests. He's a man

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who will fire every employee in every agency who upholds
their pledge to serve their country over the president. Donald
Trump is a clear and present danger to the continuation
of American democracy as we know it. We are using
this Congressional committee for the third time to attack a

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state level felony conviction of a former president by a
jury of his peers. Republicans on this committee have used
twenty million dollars of federal taxpayer dollars to deliver Trump
more power and attack his rivals. They're threatening public servants
far outside their legal jurisdiction, and even threatening private citizens

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who dare not to give Trump what he wants. The
reign of Lord Trump has already begun, and he isn't
even in the second term. It's vitally remember our founding
father's principles and that we see Project twenty twenty five
for what it is, a Republican plan to slowly but
surely strip away rights. This is about freedom versus fascism.

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I beg every American watching, don't be fooled by plastic patriotism.
Don't be fooled by those rhetorically referring to freedom without
the substance to back it up, without any care for
all people's rights. A true understanding of freedom comes from
respecting the sacrifices of our ancestors, our democratic institutions, and

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a robust rule of law. Our country is not and
has never been perfect, but our country is great and
it's our duty to keep it that way. Our country
is never shied away from employing our flaws. But what
is being promoted is a distraction. It's counterproductive and threatens years, decades,

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centuries of progress. Let's keep moving forward, Let's not go
back to the dark times.

Speaker 9 (14:18):
We're going to take a quick break and I'll discuss
what Delegate Plaska just said with Tonight's panel, this is
Roland Martin unfiltered on the Black Star Network.

Speaker 11 (14:27):
We'll be right back, I mean soon to the Black
Star Network.

Speaker 22 (14:32):
I still have my NFL contract in my in my house,
having a case.

Speaker 23 (14:36):
It's four for my four year contract, I got a
six hundred thousand dollars signing bonus. My base salary for
that first year was one fifty matter of fact, one
hundred and hundred and fifty thousand.

Speaker 22 (14:47):
That's what I made. One hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 23 (14:49):
Now think about it, My signing bonus was a forgivable loan. Supposedly,
when I got traded to the Coats, they made me
pay back my sign and as today, I had to
give them there six hundred thousand dollars back.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Wow.

Speaker 23 (15:03):
Yeah, I was so pissed because, man, I try to
be a man in my way. I'm like you, I'll
give you your money back. You know, even though I
know I earned that money right I gave. I gave
him them. I gave him that money back. I gave
him six hundred thousand dollars back. But yet I was
this male content. I was a bad guy about the money.
It wasn't about the money. It was about doing right
because I was looking at I looked at it, cause

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you don't look at contract. Look at John John. I
was making a million dollars. I was making one fifty.
I mean, I was doing everything. And I'm like, but
yet I was, Man, I got so many letters, you know,
you issue. Oh so I just played play for Free
and all that kind of stuff. I mean, you don't
forget that kind of stuff, right that that stuff is hurtful?

Speaker 2 (15:58):
All right?

Speaker 1 (15:59):
I am trying, Davidson.

Speaker 24 (16:00):
I played Oscar on Proud Family, Louder and Prouder. I
don't say I don't play Sammy, but I could. Or
I don't play Obama, but I could. I don't do
Sta Loan, but I could do all that. And I
am here with Roland Martin on Unfiltered.

Speaker 13 (16:21):
Welcome back to.

Speaker 9 (16:22):
Roland Barton Unfiltered. My name is doctor Avis, and I
am sitting in for Roland Martin. Before the break, we
heard Delegate Stacey Plaskett break down twenty twenty five. I
want to bring in the panel now to discuss what
she said. Doctor Mustafa Santiago Ali, former senior advisor for
invite him on in Justice for the EPA, Randy Bryant,

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DEI Disruptor, and Derek L. Jackson, Georgia State Representative from
District sixty eight in Atlanta, Georgia. Welcome, gentlemen. Great to
see you here. Nice to be wish we had something
better to talk about, ladies. Sorry, now I'm thinking about

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Project twenty twenty five, and I have to say I
am old enough to remember the Contract with America that
many of us call the Contract on America, and I
think it's important that individuals understand that this is not
some sort of theoretical document. This is actually what they
plan to do.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
Is that what you would think mustapa?

Speaker 14 (17:26):
Oh yeah, without a doubt.

Speaker 25 (17:27):
You know, we've often talked about Maya Angelou when she said,
when someone shows you who they are, believe them.

Speaker 14 (17:32):
They're putting it right there in front of you.

Speaker 25 (17:33):
That shows the goal of these individuals to be able
to draft this type of a nine hundred page manifesto.

Speaker 14 (17:43):
A right wing manifesto, to put it out.

Speaker 25 (17:45):
There for the country to say these are the things
that we are going to do, and for folks, for
some folks to still be asleep or the other folks
to say that well, they're not really going to do that.
What we saw under the last administration, how they tried
to dismana for the government, how they tried to redirect resources,
how they tried to strip power, and because of their

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inexperience at that time, they weren't as successful as they
had planned to be.

Speaker 14 (18:10):
But now they have, you know, not only this manifesto,
this plan.

Speaker 25 (18:15):
But they also have some experience with the federal government
and how it operates and the levers to pull.

Speaker 14 (18:21):
So we should pay particular attention.

Speaker 25 (18:23):
And that's why the Black Star Network is so incredibly important,
because we've been talking about this probably for a year now,
and now all of a sudden, everybody else wants to
pay attention. I'm glad they're paying attention, but you know,
you need to come to a place that actually cares
about black people and understands the various dynamics that are
going on and we unpack those. So, yes, I believe them,

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Yes it is dangerous, and yes we got to check
them before we allow them to take power again and
actually try to put both mental and physical chains back
on our bodies in our hands.

Speaker 9 (18:56):
Absolutely, and Randy, when I think about what we've all
ready experience, particularly as it relates to the rollback of
rights we're thinking about thinking about specifically women's rights and
particularly the right to have dominion over our own bodies.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
You know, when we think about what.

Speaker 9 (19:12):
Could be in a future if we were to have
this right wing takeover in the direction that they are
saying in black and white that they want to take it,
what would that mean for women and girls all around
this country.

Speaker 10 (19:27):
Well, they're planning to get rid of planned parenthood altogether.

Speaker 26 (19:30):
I mean, they're saying it directly that they are trying
to get rid of planned parenthood. They're trying to make
it illegal for a woman to seek any sort of
resources that would get rid of what they.

Speaker 10 (19:41):
Consider a pregnancy, a person, a human life.

Speaker 26 (19:45):
They are making it where women have no zero rights
when it comes to our bodies.

Speaker 10 (19:51):
And it does not matter how that.

Speaker 26 (19:53):
Pregnancy was conceived, whether it be through any sort a physical,
sexual assault or anything. It does not matter if the
woman is any danger of losing her life, None of
that matters. They are stripping us of those rights. And
what is interesting what you and doctor Mafossa were saying about.
You know, we've known this for some time.

Speaker 10 (20:13):
We've already seen it happen. I mean, we've already seen
the changes.

Speaker 26 (20:17):
So I'm very confused by the cognitive dissonance of some
who are saying, well, that's just a document, or do
we really know that that's what they're going to do.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
They're doing it.

Speaker 26 (20:28):
They've already shown that they are trying to take away
the rights for anyone that considers themselves in any form
or fashion a minority. Anyone that is not white, male,
or heterosexual, is in danger of losing their basic civil rights.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
And that is no joke.

Speaker 10 (20:47):
It's nothing to laugh about, play about our hide from
the truth.

Speaker 9 (20:52):
Absolutely, And I find it very interesting that you have
Donald Trump who seems to be trying to run away
from it as if he is known for telling the truth.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Right.

Speaker 14 (21:01):
Oh, I don't know anything about Project twenty five.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
I don't know anything about that.

Speaker 9 (21:06):
Representative Jackson, What do you believe black people have at stake?
Specifically when we are talking about Project twenty twenty five
and god forbid another Trump administration.

Speaker 27 (21:17):
You know, doctor Avis, you know black and brown folks
that look like us, We will lose everything.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
I mean, let us not kid ourselves.

Speaker 27 (21:27):
This is the same individual Donald Trump said he will
deport anywhere between eighteen the twenty million immigrants. So he
may use the word immigrants, but he will also include
those who he believes that America is not for them.
I mean, let us not kid ourselves. Project twenty twenty five.

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This Second American Revolution, it's been in works for over
fifty years. And to Randy and doctor Santiago's point, they've
been shipping away at this for quite some time. I mean,
when you look at Roe v. Wade, something that's been
around for fifty years gone. When you look at affirmative

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action that's been around for fifty years gone. When they
took row, you had a state such as Arizona went
back one hundred and sixty years to eighteen sixty four.
And so when you look at these laws across all
fifty states, there are some laws one hundred and fifty

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two hundred years that are still on the books.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
And so when you look at this nine hundred and.

Speaker 27 (22:37):
Twenty page manifesto, what they're saying in this nine hundred
and twenty page is one thing. But my concern that
the AVA is what they're not saying. What they're not
saying in this nine hundred and twenty page document. What
if they're going to tell us we're going to strip
away your fundamental rights from reproductive rights to civilies when

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you came to work overtime and get paid for it.
I mean, my team and I right here in Georgia,
we've been going through and coming through this nine hundred
and twenty page and so this will hurt black and brown,
yellow and in between if you're not white in European,
this Project twenty twenty five will be devastating to the

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democracy that we know of.

Speaker 9 (23:28):
It absolutely, And doctor Mushaffa, you know, when I think
about where we are right now, and I think about
the fact, to Representative Jackson's point.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
We are in retrenchment.

Speaker 9 (23:43):
When we see all the rights that were fought for
over decades, shall I say, centuries, and to see how
quickly they've been falling under the weight of these Supreme
Court decisions one after the other, including the continual erosion
of voting rights, it seems like to me this Project
twenty five is really the final sort of blow. It's

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the death nail. To me, this is looking like a
document that is looking to put in place a white
minority rule in America and specifically white male minority rule
because they want white women, let's be frank, to produce
more babies.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
That's my take on why they're so hell bent on
any abortion in America.

Speaker 9 (24:27):
I mean, what are your thoughts, What are your thoughts
about the overarching sort of paradigm shift that we would
face as a nation if this would come to pass.

Speaker 14 (24:39):
We've known each other too long because our minds are
in sync.

Speaker 25 (24:43):
Is really interesting. This is a part of the trifecta.
And let me unpack that for folks. So you have
Project twenty twenty five. You have these Supreme Court.

Speaker 14 (24:53):
Cases recently of both about immunity giving.

Speaker 25 (24:56):
A president unlimited powers and the and you also have
the Chevron case, which then took power away from federal
agencies and gave it back to the courts.

Speaker 14 (25:08):
Now, where have we seen these types of actions before?

Speaker 25 (25:11):
For those of us are students of history, then we
have to go back and take a look and ask
the question, how did Nazism actually was able to overtake
Germany and to restructure their government. They had a plan
and their plan looked very similar to some of the
actions that we've currently seen. How did apartheidism take place
and find a fertile ground in South Africa, a country

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that was, you know, majority black folks, and we know
that it is because they had a plan and they
put those sets of actions and then laws into place,
controlling the judiciary, controlling how resources flowed, controlling who you
could marry. All these various things were a part of
these nefarious plans. When you take a look at Project

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twenty twenty five, then you ask to ask yourself. They
learned those lessons from those other types of actions that
were very punitive and damaging to people, and now they've
brought those forward into a Jim Crow two point zero
or three point zero plan, if you will.

Speaker 14 (26:11):
So what will America look like? That means that, you know, for.

Speaker 25 (26:15):
These federal agencies where you're now going to have fifty
thousand people who are loyal to Donald Trump, who take
whatever that loyalty pledge is, they are now going to
make decisions about where the grants go, where the contracts
and subcontract opportunities happen. So when we have these conversations,
lots of times people don't actually dig into what does

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this reality look like?

Speaker 14 (26:37):
The billions upon billions of.

Speaker 25 (26:38):
Dollars that move through the federal system will now be
controlled by people who have no interest in helping and
lifting up those who have been unseen, unheard, and disinvested in.
So you got to take a peek at that the
policies that will be developed will no longer have those
federal individuals who have been doing the work, learning lessons
from community for decades of decades to try and get

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it better, They will no longer be there. When you
look at the impacts, we saw them trying to take
first of all, to erase us from history, then to
take out of the books around So now they said, well,
you know what, if we was good enough to try
and do that in Florida and other locations, why don't
we just take out the Department of Education. Why don't
we make sure that we eliminate pel grants and student

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loans and all these things that we know that are important,
especially for communities who often don't come from families that
have huge amounts of money.

Speaker 14 (27:30):
And then of course we saw everything part of the
FDA that they're.

Speaker 25 (27:34):
Trying to do around drugs and making them less affordable.
Then you have to ask the question, well, who's actually
behind this, because yes, it's the Heritage Fund, Yes, it's alec,
but there are also companies and corporations that are a
part of this because they want to maximize profit, and
that means that they're placing profit over people, at least
in the movement that I come from. They're also trying

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to make sure that you don't have clean water or
clean air, understanding that inside of our commune unities, we
already have a number of diseases because of the sets
of exposures that we've dealt with in unhealthy food.

Speaker 14 (28:08):
So we got to just really take a look at
all these things.

Speaker 25 (28:11):
That are playing out and understand the cumulative effects of
what America will look like in twenty twenty five, twenty
twenty six, twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight. And now
there's even there's language out there now that Donald Trump,
once he has all this power, that he will then
even try and to seek a third term. So you know,
even before we get to that, we have power. As

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my grandmother says, you have power unless you give it away.
And that means that we have to vote, and we
have to build coalitions, and that doesn't mean that we
have to be in agreement with everybody who's a part
of the coalition on one hundred percent of the things.
But we have to make sure that we have enough numbers,
both on the federal level and in those state houses
that we can stop these types of things. They're already

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getting judges, getting rid of judges, and have plans to
get rid of judges on the state level. So if
you don't care what's happen on the federal level, all
you got to do is look in your backyard and
you'll be able to see some of these things that
are going to play out. Lack of resources, different types
of enforcement actions that are much more stringent happening, and
a number of other things that all of us have
been fighting for, marching for, and spilling blood for.

Speaker 9 (29:17):
Absolutely and Randy, I have to bring you in because
when I think about you and what you do, right
a DEI disruptor, and I think about the moment in
history in which we find ourselves in which you have
whole legions of people.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
Trying to disrupt DEI.

Speaker 9 (29:36):
To me, this just goes right into that same frame,
and you know right now it's being attacked. I think
I saw a statistic about thirty states across the nation
either had written laws or wanted to write laws or
in the process of writing laws trying to eliminate DEI.
We know that in companies people are being fired. Like
all of these things to me are after effects of

(29:57):
the affirmative action ruling. Now we know what's in Project
twenty twenty five, like just in terms of what you
do and creating a country that quite frankly has never
quite lived up to its creed, but at least it's
it's aspirational that we would get to a place where,
out of many you would.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Ultimately have one. You know, where are we right now?

Speaker 9 (30:19):
How far does a document like this, if it were
to put be put into practice, how far would it
take us back? Just in terms of embracing the very
notions implicit within this ideal of diversity, equity, and inclusion,
It would take.

Speaker 26 (30:37):
Us back to segregation absolutely, because you know, if we're
dependent on the kindness of people to hire diverse workforces or.

Speaker 10 (30:47):
To provide people with equal rights or equal pay, as.

Speaker 26 (30:51):
We know now we don't make equal pay. No, we're
going to talk about that later on in this show.
If we're dependent on the kindness, trust me, we would
get no where. What has helped us after civil rights
movements is that people have been encouraged to or it's
made it almost illegal to discriminate against people based on

(31:12):
certain criteria. What happened after that affirmative action ruling, It
said that we don't need that, we don't have any
sort of discrimination in this country based on race, And
so it took us all the way back to where
people can decide to whom they rent apartments, how they
give them, who they give mortgages to, who they hire fire,

(31:34):
how they pay them, who they allow in colleges and universities,
who they allowed us to attend schools.

Speaker 10 (31:41):
It completely makes.

Speaker 26 (31:42):
It where no one has to give someone that's different
a fair chance. Not that we've ever gotten a fair chance,
not that that we've never even reached that level, but
to you know, we would get a chance.

Speaker 10 (31:57):
They would have to at least have some.

Speaker 26 (31:59):
Repens of diversity within the workforce, although you wouldn't.

Speaker 10 (32:03):
See it's at the higher ranks.

Speaker 26 (32:05):
So in Project twenty five, it makes it very clear
that not only will DEI programs be wiped out as
they already are being as we speak, every day there's
a new story of a major university or corporation completely
deleting anything they've ever done. And when it comes to DEI,

(32:27):
it makes it where it is actually illegal for those
people who want to do better, who are champions of
diversity to do so, just as we've seen in places
like Florida, they're not even allowed to use the language diversity, equity,
and inclusion.

Speaker 10 (32:45):
I mean, imagine what they're seeing that we cannot even
use those words like.

Speaker 26 (32:51):
These are positive words, right, these are good words, but
they have turned them to be so evil.

Speaker 10 (32:57):
So what we're seeing now is only going to get worse.

Speaker 28 (33:01):
And I.

Speaker 10 (33:03):
Feel like screaming at people when they even consider.

Speaker 26 (33:07):
Or talk about, you know, some check that Trump gave them,
or Trump you know he's real or whatever.

Speaker 10 (33:14):
I'm like, do you understand that everything is at stake.

Speaker 29 (33:19):
Anyone who does not like you, and if you are
foolish in this country to think that everybody's embracing black
people are excited to give us a chance, anyone who
has the power to discriminate against you now can and
not get in trouble for it.

Speaker 26 (33:34):
And they're making an end Project twenty five where you
can't even bring up the issue. It's I legal, it's
not even They're not even going to be taken DEI
cases discrimination discrimination cases based on gender and race, and
then on top of that it will be illegal to protest,
so you can't get them either way.

Speaker 10 (33:54):
You just must accept the way that you're treated.

Speaker 13 (33:58):
I mean it is dire.

Speaker 26 (34:00):
I mean it is dire, and so I thank god
I have this forum to be out here and tell
the people who are willing to listen, and I hope
those of you out there tell any tell others, because
no one is going to.

Speaker 10 (34:16):
Save us but us.

Speaker 26 (34:19):
These people have come out and made it very clear
that they're not only trying to save us or help us,
or support us or just give us what's equal. They're
going to fight like hell to take anything away that.

Speaker 13 (34:32):
We have, and so they better get on it.

Speaker 6 (34:35):
I mean, this rings you.

Speaker 26 (34:37):
Sound the alarm, Sound the alarm, because it's bad.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
It's scary, absolutely a four alarm fire. Indeed.

Speaker 9 (34:45):
So we're gonna have to wrap this segment up, but
we'll be right back after this break on Roland Martin Unfiltered.

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Speaker 9 (37:00):
And if you don't believe what we've been saying about
the ramifications of Trump's victory in November, check out this
video put out by the Lincoln Project, which shows the
damage four more years of Trump will do.

Speaker 17 (37:12):
November fifth, twenty twenty four, Donald Trump defeats a divided
and dispirited Democratic campaign. On January twentieth, twenty twenty five,
Donald Trump is sworn in as the forty seventh President
of the United States. Unfortunately, he keeps his promises. Trump

(37:34):
seizes control of a divided government, signing hundreds of executive orders.
Implementing Project twenty twenty five, Trump replaces over fifty thousand
civil servants with hardline MAGA loyalists. The federal oath of
office now requires declaring the loyalty to the President, not
the Constitution, protected by the Supreme Court's grant of total

(37:55):
immunity for official acts. Donald Trump orders the Department of
Justice to arrest members of the January sixth Commission, current
and former DOJ employees, and political opponents for treason, election interference,
and conspiracy.

Speaker 18 (38:10):
He declares it to be an official act.

Speaker 17 (38:13):
Trump ends birthright citizenship by executive order and turns millions
of American born citizens into illegal aliens. Overnight, mass deportations
began through hundreds of thousands, including legal US residents and
American citizens are imprisoned in newly built camps.

Speaker 18 (38:32):
Protests erupt.

Speaker 17 (38:34):
Trump addresses the nation from the Oval Office, invoking the
Insurrection Act and declaring the protesters at danger.

Speaker 18 (38:40):
To American sovereignty.

Speaker 17 (38:42):
He orders the National Guard to use deadly force to
suppress the protests.

Speaker 18 (38:47):
In the wake of the bloody violence.

Speaker 17 (38:48):
Trump declares nationwide martial law, awarding himself new powers under
the freshly signed American Sovereignty Protection Order, which defines protest
of immigration policies as non protected speech and a threat
to national security. Governors in New York, California, Illinois, and
elsewhere to clear their opposition, promising to refuse compliance in

(39:09):
their states, Trump orders their arrests. Trump pardons every January
sixth attacker, including those who assaulted the police, and in
a White House ceremony, issues a new presidential medal honoring them.
Many are given jobs in his administration. The Department of
Education is renamed the Department of American Values and mandates

(39:30):
a nationwide Christian nationalist curriculum for all schools receiving federal aid. Trump,
joined by Speaker Mike Johnson and evangelical leaders, announces that
the Department of Health and Human Services has reclassified Myth
of Christowe, making it illegal to distribute or prescribe, as
well as new AHHS regulations that make IVF treatments impossible

(39:51):
to legally ad Minister Trump reverses one campaign promise by
declaring a national abortion.

Speaker 18 (39:57):
Ban by executive order.

Speaker 17 (39:59):
Challenges to authority are rejected by the Supreme Court, which
has seen new appointments from Trump after it was expanded.

Speaker 18 (40:05):
To twelve justices.

Speaker 17 (40:07):
He signs an executive order removing abortion records from hippop
privacy regulations and announces a new federal data sharing programs
of states can monitor women's periods. Thousands are detained while
crossing state lines under suspicion of seeking an abortion. Trump's
acting Secretary of Defense, a disgraced ex general, fires over
four hundred generals and animals, leaving the military leaderless. Other

(40:31):
Trump appointees purge the ranks of the CIA, FBI, and
Department of Justice by executive order. Trump withdraws the United
States from NATO and ends Pentagon cooperation with Ukraine. Russian
tank's inner Kiev Vladimir Zelensky is killed. It is announced
that Trump will run for a third term, claiming he

(40:52):
was unfairly cheated in the twenty twenty election. His Supreme
Court ultimately agrees with this interpretation, paving the way for Trump's.

Speaker 18 (40:59):
Twenty two eight reelections.

Speaker 17 (41:01):
If you hear all this and believe it is impossible,
then ask yourself what did you believe was impossible.

Speaker 18 (41:08):
Just eight years ago. This isn't a fantasy.

Speaker 17 (41:11):
It's Trump's plan, and he's counting on you to believe
it couldn't happen.

Speaker 6 (41:23):
Now that didn't convince you, check out this video from
Eleven Films.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
I love this guy. He says, you're not going to
be a dictator. I said no, no, no other than
day one.

Speaker 33 (41:38):
As my first order of business, I hereby declare marginal.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Law citizens of the New America. Here are today's announcements.

Speaker 34 (41:51):
Supreme Leader Donald Trump proclaims the fourth of July will
no longer be celebrated as Independence Day. In honor of
our twenty twenty one patriots. January sixth will now be
recognized as our great Nation's birthday. All citizens are required
to participate in quadrant festivities.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
Failure to do.

Speaker 34 (42:13):
So will be met with harsh punishment and immediate incarceration
in your local detention camp. Now tired of this separation
of church and state junk effective immediately. All children are
now considered spiritual soldiers of MAGA, regardless of rape, incest,
or health of the woman.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Abortion is now illegal.

Speaker 34 (42:32):
Anyone called providing or receiving an abortion will be charged
with murder.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Do you believe in punishment for abortion?

Speaker 13 (42:39):
It has to be some form of punishment for the woman.

Speaker 6 (42:41):
Yeah, it has to be so formed due to previous
liberal indoctrination. All schools are hereby closed.

Speaker 34 (42:48):
All citizens must participate in their quadrants book elimination, celebration festivity.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Failure to do so will be met with.

Speaker 34 (42:57):
Harsh punishment and immediate incarceration.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
In your local detention camp.

Speaker 34 (43:02):
All migrants, refugees, and dreamers are now considered enemies of
the New America and will be rounded up, incarcerated, and
deported immediately.

Speaker 28 (43:11):
Yeah, poisoning the blood of our country.

Speaker 7 (43:13):
That's what they've done, and we will root out the radical.

Speaker 18 (43:16):
Less thugs lds like Vermin Vermin Vermin.

Speaker 34 (43:21):
Your contum and freedom to travel will be determined by
your quadrants.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
Vermin surveillance systems.

Speaker 34 (43:27):
For the Vermin surveillance system has proven to be invaluable
in detecting and squashing liberal uprisings. All citizens must continue
to report any progressive or liberal activity. Failure to do
so will be met with harsh punishment, any meeting, incarceration
at your local detention camp. Your unwavering loyalty to Supreme

(43:50):
Leader Donald Trump is mandatory and essential in keeping the
New America great forever.

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Speaker 9 (45:18):
Welcome back to Roland Martin Unfiltered. I'm doctor vis Monday. First,
Lady Doctor Jill Biden was on a three state tour
garnering support from military veterans during her stop in Columbus, Georgia.
She called Trump evil and said we can't afford to
have him as commander in chief.

Speaker 12 (45:38):
My dad served as a signament in a Navy signalman
in World War Two, and as Gloria said, in two
thousand and three, our son Vote joined the Delaware Army
National Guard and served for a year in Iraq.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
So this is.

Speaker 10 (45:54):
Personal to us.

Speaker 12 (45:56):
We know what it's like to wait on a lagging
phone call from across the world, to smile through another
holiday with an empty chair at the table.

Speaker 10 (46:08):
So let me ask you this.

Speaker 12 (46:11):
Does Donald Trump know anything about military man? He disparages
those who sacrifice for our country. His own chief of
staff said he called POW's and those who died in
more losers and suckers.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
He's evil.

Speaker 12 (46:33):
He said he didn't want to be seen with injured
veterans because it didn't look good for him. It's disgraceful,
but it's not surprising. Donald Trump wakes up every morning
thinking about one person, and one person.

Speaker 6 (46:51):
Only himself.

Speaker 12 (46:54):
We know what Donald Trump was like as commander in chief,
and it could be worse than time. Last week, the
Supreme Court ruled that there are virtually no limits on
what a president can do. Our democracy cannot withstand a
Trump presidency with virtually no limits. Service members honor their

(47:19):
oath to support and defend the Constitution. We cannot trust
Donald Trump to do the same. The military community deserves better.
You deserve a commander in chief who serves with integrity
and wisdom and character.

Speaker 10 (47:39):
And that's my husband, Joe Biden.

Speaker 9 (47:43):
Don't going to bring back in the panel to sort
of unpack the First Lady's remarks as well as what
we just saw in terms of those two visions into
the future by the Lincoln Project right and eleven films,
And when you look at it, it does seem very
star it seems very scary. Representative Jackson, do you think

(48:05):
that the First Lady was too harsh when she used
the word evil to describe Donald Trump?

Speaker 4 (48:14):
You know, doctor Avis, No, the First Lady was spot on.

Speaker 27 (48:19):
In fact, I was in that crowd of three hundred
plus and as a retired naval officer, one who served
this country in uniform for twenty two years, we men
and women who are in uniform. Our expectation of a
commander in chief is one that will exercise wisdom, in

(48:43):
other words, one that understands what diplomacy looks like before
the use of military We need a commander in chief
that has a compassionate part in other words, understand the
plight of military families and veterans, knowing that when they
give the order to men and women in uniform, that

(49:07):
might be the last time they see their loved ones.
And he has that understanding because he represents a military family.
We all can recall his son Bo died serving this country.
We need a commander in chief that understand and exercise integrity.

(49:29):
I know no one is talking about it, but during
that debate, if you look at Trump's ninety minutes, he
lied fifty two times within ninety minutes. We don't need
a commander in chief that don't understand integrity and character
and wisdom and self control and experience. And speaking of experience,

(49:52):
let us not forget. President Biden served in the United
States Senate for thirty six years. He was a vice
president to Barack Obama for eight years in these last
three and a half years as president, and so when
you look at that body of work, that's the kind
of commander in chief we don't need a commander in

(50:13):
chief that will go back and forth with the federal
government for eighteen months when he is hoarding four hundred
boxes of classified material. Until this date, he has yet
to be held accountable. Because when I was a commander
in the Navy, every man, every woman understood the misuse

(50:34):
of classified documents. You can find yourself in leaven work.
And so we need a commander in chief with a
steady hand. And so, first Lady, Doctor Joe Biden was
spot on.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Donald J. Trump is evil and clear and present danger
to this country.

Speaker 9 (50:53):
So, doctor Santiago, when I look particularly at the Lincoln
Projects piece, it paints a very stark picture of in essence,
the demise of democracy, the rise of a dictatorship ruling
this country by an iron hand.

Speaker 6 (51:10):
What would you share with the viewers about whether or
not you think this is total fiction?

Speaker 9 (51:16):
It is just very you know, they're hyperbolic, or do
you see the future that they paint is something that
is actually possible and if not plausible with another truck turn.

Speaker 14 (51:28):
Yeah, no, that's an excellent question.

Speaker 25 (51:31):
You know, some folks know that I used to lead
seventeen federal agencies and a couple of White House offices,
through this Inaging inn Agency working group that I was
in charge of, So it gave me the opportunity to
understand both the strengths and weaknesses that exist inside of
our structures in relationship to those.

Speaker 14 (51:51):
Agencies and departments.

Speaker 25 (51:53):
And when I take a look at what these folks
are trying to accomplish, it is doable. Now inside of
our system, we make the assumptions that individuals who will
come up for leadership positions president and vice president, so
forth and so on will not be as evil to
use the words of the first Lady as the individual

(52:16):
that we're dealing with. Now, let me be very clear
that there have been individuals throughout our history who have
most definitely done evil things to our people, to indigenous people,
to a number of others.

Speaker 14 (52:29):
So I'm not blind to that fact. But this individual
takes it to a whole nother level.

Speaker 25 (52:34):
And yes, it is quite quite possible that they would
be able to accomplish many of the things that they
put forward, both in that Project twenty twenty five and
in other documents that they have out there, So we
should pay particular attention to it. And it's not like
they plan on just doing it in four years I'm sorry, Doc.

(52:55):
They have a long term vision for being able to
implement these things. It is about getting the baseline in place,
about hoarding the power and restructuring that will allow them.

Speaker 14 (53:05):
To be able to do it if we don't push back.

Speaker 9 (53:10):
Absolutely so, Randy, I think it's very important then when
people understand I mean, you know, we oftentimes hear this
messaging from the Democratic Party about democracy is at stake,
and that to many people it seems a little esoteric.
I think people, it's become democracy as obviously at this

(53:31):
point largely taken for granted in America, and we don't
really know what it looks like to be what was
painted very vividly in terms of that those sort of
vignettes that we were shown a few minutes ago. You
mentioned something the last time you spoke about people who
are protesting will be in essence be outlawed. And I'm

(53:54):
thinking even right now, we're at a place where, in
at least two states that I know of, Texas and Florida,
it's actually legal to run over protesters with your car.

Speaker 6 (54:04):
I mean, this is the level of craziness that we
are dealing with right now. I mean, do you see
this as a pivotal moment in this nation's history, back
from which we may not come if this election goes
the wrong way.

Speaker 10 (54:21):
It's an absolute pivotal moment.

Speaker 26 (54:23):
I think it's the biggest moment that I've ever lived
in that will change the direction of this country one
way or the other.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
I applaud the.

Speaker 26 (54:36):
First Lady, doctor Jill Biden, for using strong language, and
I think she's doing it now because we haven't really
seen her speak the way she did, because she now
gets the.

Speaker 10 (54:47):
Severity of the situation.

Speaker 26 (54:49):
And you know, oftentimes, particularly the Democratic Party tries to
play we try to be you know, decent, I would say,
and postings with a certain decor, and I think it's
now like we got to come out with with our
punching gloves on and call a thing a thing. I
also like the fact, you know that the vignettes that

(55:10):
we just saw, like the you know, Lincoln project did
because no one's going to not many people, not many
people are going to read that nine over nine hundred
page document, and so it does just sound as if
something you know, we're talking about, but people really need
to understand, they need to visualize how what's happening will
affect their day to day what their country will look like.

(55:31):
And just like you said, because we have taken democracy
for granted and we need to understand that what we've
had all of my life, I mean, and I'm far
from blind of all that I haven't had and all
that I've been fighting for people to have. But it's
only going to get worse. And so yes, this is

(55:52):
a pivotal time in our.

Speaker 10 (55:54):
History, in our country's history.

Speaker 26 (55:57):
Absolutely, and so yes, I'm glad people are out there
fighting for it because it's one way or the other
at this point. And once if Trump should win, it's
just scary. I mean, we are now dealing with the
changes that he made before Biden came into office, where
that's the reason why the Supreme Court is able to

(56:19):
make the decisions that they have been making, stripping right
away from the majority of the people in this country.

Speaker 9 (56:27):
Absolutely, and really quickly, before you go to break, I
just would not do role in justice if I did
not say something that I know he's been saying for years.
What is actually happening right now is that we're seeing
this white backlash against a rising white minority. I mean
the minute, I mean, is it any wonder why the

(56:48):
minute that we're seeing the demographics go in the direction
that it's going where we are not too many years
away from whites as a minority in this nation. Is
there this huge concerted effort in order to undermine democracy
when you no longer can win elections because you are
no longer the majority, all of a sudden, you don't

(57:10):
give a damn about democracy.

Speaker 6 (57:12):
This is what's happening right now.

Speaker 9 (57:14):
And if people don't get this and act accordingly in November,
I shudder to think not only what we will have
to deal with, but what our children and our grandchildren
and those who come after them will have to deal with.
This election is bigger than us. This is election is
about the generations that have to come after us. And
with that said, we're going to take a break right now.

(57:36):
We will see you in just a minute on Roland
Martin Unfiltered with the Black Star Network.

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A Florida family is demanding answers after police shot and
killed a black man who thought his sister and other
family members were in danger. According to media outlets, on
May thirty first, twenty seven year old Daniel Lewis was
inside his Miami Garden's home when his sister and his
cousin sought his home for shelter. The group believed gang

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members were following them in a car they described as
black with no markings or police lights. They pulled up
to Lewis's home and ran into the house. Lewis, a
licensed gun owner, went outside with his weapon to see
what or who they were running from. That's when police
shot him five times. The Lewis family attorney, Chris Lomack,

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and Ariolette join us now. We're also joined by Kelly Davis,
the Lewis's family spokesman.

Speaker 6 (01:01:06):
Thanks for joining us, Thank you, thank you for having us,
for having me.

Speaker 9 (01:01:10):
Absolutely so. This is such a just outrageous, outrageous tragedy.
And I would also say travesty.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Chris.

Speaker 9 (01:01:21):
I want to start with you as you are looking
at what happened to this young man trying to protect
his family. What in the world is the police saying
about their initial Honestly, it sounds like trigger happy reaction
to a young man just trying to protect himself and

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his family.

Speaker 35 (01:01:43):
Well, it appears that law enforcement is taking a position
that is okay to shoot first and ask questions later.
They pulled up on mister Lewis's home and he comes outside.
They never give him an opportunity to surrender, to yield,
They don't announce him as police officers. Their position is
that they believe that they were under fire, but there's

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no evidence that they were under fire at any point
when they engage with mister Lewis. And so we don't
understand what the police officer's position is at this point
because we have not been given any information that would
definitively say or justify what they did to us. It's
a clear unjustified shoot. There's no reason why mister Ruis

(01:02:25):
should have been shot that night. But we're looking for answers,
and obviously we're here today because.

Speaker 36 (01:02:31):
We have not been given them, but we are pursuing
them vigorously.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
I hear you so, Ariel.

Speaker 9 (01:02:36):
I am not an attorney, but I kind of remember
Florida and something called Staniel ground our individuals. It's my
understanding that that means, as it's been used in the past,
that you are allowed to protect yourself in your person
and definitely your home. I mean, is this completely irrelevant

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when it comes to police.

Speaker 33 (01:03:00):
Well, it's not completely irrelevant at all. But what's what
we have to understand here is that if if mister
Lewis had survived this somehow right and was charged with
a crime, let's say, potentially shooting at police, Let's say
let's say that you're allowed to do that if there's

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if there's they're not. They don't have a right to
be on your home. Number one, And you can defend
your home from invaders who are doing something wrong like
not announcing themselves as police officers. And so that's a
that's a defense to to to having a charge against you.
It's just like if a unknown assailant were to break

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into your your home or your car and you defended
your home and your and your property, your family by
taking by using lethal force, you have that right, you
have that ability. And what the the police are failing
to understand here, and what's really an issue here is

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that you know their rights and their duties as police officers,
you know, only can go so far. They can't just
go on to anybody's property, anybody's home, and go into
their backyard and on their back porch and start shooting
them when they come outside to see what commotion is
going on in their own backyard.

Speaker 6 (01:04:22):
M mister Davis, you are representing the family here tonight.

Speaker 9 (01:04:27):
I can't even imagine the anguish that the family is
going through right now. Can you tell us a little
bit about how is the family not only sort of
surviving in the wake of this tragedy, but what are
their thoughts about.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
The necessity for achieving justice with regards to the death
of their loved one.

Speaker 37 (01:04:50):
Well, well, the first thing, the family as a whole
is completely devastating. Angela, who was his mother, who was
also a personal friend of mine with We've had a
friendship for over thirty years. I never thought that as
a community activist I would be getting a call to
help a friend go through have to bury her son.
His small children, two years old and of the six

(01:05:12):
year old also witnessed her father take his last breath,
as well as her mother. Family literally on a moment
to moment, day to day basis is to be completely devastated,
especially at a young man who had so much going
for So, he graduated from Barbara College, he was working
with his uncle part time at UPS, taking care.

Speaker 13 (01:05:34):
Of his children.

Speaker 36 (01:05:35):
He had custody of the six year old.

Speaker 13 (01:05:37):
He took his children to school every single day.

Speaker 36 (01:05:40):
So this was an upstanding man in the community and
this should.

Speaker 38 (01:05:44):
Not have happened.

Speaker 9 (01:05:45):
Absolutely not, Chris, I don't really understand why the police
was following the family members in the first place, in
this unmarked car. I mean, it is reasonable if you
are if you find that you are being followed by
a car that you do not recognize, it does not

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have any markings of being with the police.

Speaker 6 (01:06:10):
It is reasonable to be fearful in that circumstance.

Speaker 9 (01:06:14):
And I'm wondering, how's the police given any explanation as
to what the hell they were doing following these innocent
individuals in the first damn place that led to this
tragedy at the end.

Speaker 35 (01:06:29):
Well, no, they haven't given any explanation as to why
they were following these particular individuals. Our understanding is that
there may have been some interest in some activity going
on in the area, maybe even some interest in some
activity going on at some point at the house, But
there was nothing that we've been told so far about
any specific individuals and why they were being followed in

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this fashion, especially on a sort of ongoing basis from
the house to the store back to the house, and
then not only that, but doing so in a way that.

Speaker 36 (01:06:59):
Would raised suspicion for anyone. If I were driving in
my car, would absolutely.

Speaker 35 (01:07:03):
Be suspicious of someone who's following me to my house,
to the store and coming back, and I would feel
as though I was in an unsafe position. And so
the question that we have to ask ourselves is to
what extent can law enforcement officers create dangerous situations to
their own peril and then come back and use unnecessary
and disproportionate force against people who had no reason to

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believe or no reason to know that they were law enforcement.

Speaker 36 (01:07:27):
And that's exactly what happened to mister Lewis.

Speaker 35 (01:07:30):
He had no reason to expect or understand that the
individuals who ran into his backyard and drove it to
his backyard and shot him five times were law enforcement.
And so the whole thing is a complete tragedy, is
a failure.

Speaker 36 (01:07:43):
Of the system. It shouldn't have happened, and we need
these answers, We need him now.

Speaker 33 (01:07:48):
And if I may piggyback off of Chris's response as well,
you know, there was an individual arrest that it was
a friend of the friend of the family. There was
an affidavit presented, but that goes that actually contradicts what
the police have said in some other news UH news

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news press releases. One and one hand, they've they've talked
about this task force UH that that was being used,
and it wasn't just one one vehicle. It was one
van and two two vehicles, all unmarked, all black with
very dark tents so you couldn't see and it was
eleven PM at night, right, And so they said on

(01:08:32):
one hand that those vehicles were responding to the increased
level of violence in that community as and just being
out there when they engaged with this family. On the
other hand, there on the other hand, on that affid
David that I mentioned, they said that they were actually

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looking at this house for suspected drug activity. So you
have one that's saying suspected violence, another that's it's saying
suspected drug activity. But there was no drugs ever found
in the home or in the vehicle. Nobody's been charged
with any drug crimes, and the only person person that

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was arrested wasn't even related to this family, and so
you know, and obviously, again mister Lewis wasn't even in
that car during that chase, and so it has nothing
to do with them as to what happened during the chase.
But once they got onto that property and took action
on that property, that's when.

Speaker 14 (01:09:31):
It affects mister Lewis and his rights.

Speaker 9 (01:09:33):
Let me ask you this, just to follow up super quickly.
Was there any body cameras involved?

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
We don't know.

Speaker 14 (01:09:40):
Those are more questions and we were looking for that.

Speaker 33 (01:09:43):
I can tell you that Miami Gardens police are supposed
to have body cameras on them, and it's very strings
that through all of the documents that I have been
able to we have been able to get that's related
to this incident from the law enforcement, there's no mention
of body cameras as of yet, So we don't know

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if if there's a definitive answer that they don't work
wearing them, which would also be a violation of their
policy which includes, you know, the other violations that we've
discussed already, or if they have them and just are
not telling us about them.

Speaker 9 (01:10:23):
This may seem kind of obvious given the answer to
that question, but just as your experience as an attorney,
are you finding and maybe unfortunately other situations similar to this.
Are you finding the police here to be cooperative? Are
you finding them to be secretive? Are you finding them
to be obstructive? What is your assessment, either one of

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the attorneys, actually, what is your assessment as to the
level of transparency or lack thereof that the police are
giving you and this family as it comes to being
able to let them know how the hell their level was?

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
Ill I could start it off.

Speaker 33 (01:11:04):
They are helpful when it serves their purpose, right if
if they know that it's a video is going to
conclusively show that they were in the right. They released
video camera footage. You've seen it time and time again
on the news. All right, oh, this this is what
happened almost immediately.

Speaker 14 (01:11:26):
And it's been now more more than a.

Speaker 33 (01:11:27):
Month since the killing of mister Lewis, And so they
have been obstructive in that in that instance, and they
use the guise of ongoing investigation to do so. And
so their investigation seems to have included with only one
arrest unrelated to mister Lewis any any other investigation other

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than that, and the wrongful death of mister Lewis is
a mystery to us.

Speaker 23 (01:11:53):
Well.

Speaker 9 (01:11:53):
I have a final question from mister Davis in terms
of the family.

Speaker 6 (01:11:59):
What is just look like for them?

Speaker 37 (01:12:04):
Justice first, It's gonna start with getting the questions the
family had, knowing no answers at all. And the big
question is why. This was a young man who was
literally in the process of about to get in the shower,
getting ready to go out and hang out with some friends.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
Uh.

Speaker 37 (01:12:23):
Other family members were literally going to the corner store
to go get something to drink because they were getting
ready to have a late dinner. So there's there's a
slew of of of why.

Speaker 36 (01:12:34):
It's a it's a blanket question of why. Because this happened.

Speaker 37 (01:12:38):
And unfortunately we've seen this in Florida to me with
Trayvon Martin, with Corey that was killed in West boumb
which both of those situations I was involved with protesting
to those. So this is another uh fortunate case of
it okay to shoot a black person and we are

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not going to let him die. In VA and that's
what the family wants to want to see, and they
want to see change in police regures because.

Speaker 13 (01:13:11):
A simple change.

Speaker 37 (01:13:12):
But we believe that if the police officers had just
identified themselves and done.

Speaker 36 (01:13:17):
In regular traffic spot, we would not be sitting here today.

Speaker 4 (01:13:20):
Ivan.

Speaker 22 (01:13:20):
This m.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
So so sad.

Speaker 6 (01:13:25):
Well, I just said that was gonna be gonna last,
But I do have one last question.

Speaker 9 (01:13:28):
For Chris really quickly, is it your do you believe
or is there an opportunity or chance that these officers
may be charged at some point if they can't come
up with some sort of plausible explanation in terms of
why this was justified? Is that even in the cards,
I mean, this is Florida.

Speaker 35 (01:13:49):
Well, absolutely, not only does Florida have the authority to
charge these officers, but the United States Department of Justice
clearly has the authority to charge them under eighteen USC.
Section two forty two, which is the statue that I
prosecuted officers under for over five years as a federal prosecutor.
This is the type of case that we would investigate
at the DJ in the Civil Rights Division and determine

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whether the shooting was justified, meaning the officer had the
authority under the Constitution of the United States, to use
the force that he or she used. If that force
was excessive, and if it was a willful violation of
mister Lewis's constitutional rights, then a federal prosecution is absolutely
in the cards. And I expect that the people at
the Civil Rights Division will look at this and make

(01:14:32):
a determination based in the facts and based on the evidence,
and there's availability to make a charge in this case,
I believe that they.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Will do that well.

Speaker 9 (01:14:40):
I certainly hope that justice is served in this case.
Please send our condolences to the family, and thank you
so much for fighting on behalf of this young man
in this family that I know is still trying to
get some manner of solace with regard to this case
that has yet to see any manner of justice. Ye,
but I'm glad to see that we have the right

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people in the case. Thanks for joining us this evening.
Thank you, Thank you for having me absolutely and thank you.
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So we're back and I'm going to bring in the
panel to discuss this Florida case that we just talked
about with regards to this horrible, horrible shooting of this
young man bringing in Randy First. You know, as I'm
thinking about this situation, which is just another atrocity, the
thought that comes to my mind is how many more,

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like how many more stories do we have to hear
like this? And this one, to me, is a particularly
atrocious given once again what seems to be completely outside
of the boundaries of just playing logical behavior by the
police department who now seems to be in the process.

Speaker 6 (01:18:07):
To me, it sounds like of covering it up.

Speaker 9 (01:18:09):
If it's been a month and they still don't know
don't see anybody cam footage, that to me sounds like
a cover up.

Speaker 26 (01:18:17):
Absolutely, it sounds like a cover up, and particularly since
they keep saying we thought there was a gun shot.

Speaker 10 (01:18:23):
It seemed that he shot.

Speaker 26 (01:18:25):
I'm like, by now, you know that he shot a
gun or not, So what's the problem? Yeah, you know,
and I don't know how many Moore.

Speaker 10 (01:18:33):
And that's the sad part.

Speaker 26 (01:18:34):
And I believe that that is the trauma that is
placed upon us every day as Black Americans in this country,
because when I think about the actions of that day,
is we hear about the precautions that they took and
not knowing that.

Speaker 10 (01:18:51):
These were police officers, you know, possibly following them.

Speaker 26 (01:18:55):
It just made me sad because it reminds me of
how much many of us go through life every day
playing defense, being scared because we see these stories day.

Speaker 10 (01:19:09):
After day, and so when we you know, we feel
the need to have a gun and and and.

Speaker 26 (01:19:17):
A license and can fairly carry it and to tell
someone run to the house, or to be suspicious when
somebody pulls up, because we live in this country feeling scared,
feeling as if we don't belong, feeling as if we're
not safe all of the time. So the tragedy, it's
like a pebble in the in the in the pond

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where it of course it affects the family so so
so much, but also all of us who keep seeing
these stories day by day, the trauma it places upon
black psyche, I don't I think it's immeasurable.

Speaker 6 (01:19:55):
I completely agree.

Speaker 9 (01:19:57):
I mean when I think about this situation and then
you mentioned about you know, we last I checked, you know,
black people are included under the Second Amendment.

Speaker 6 (01:20:07):
I mean, what the hell is going on here?

Speaker 9 (01:20:09):
Where is the NRA, Like, you know, everybody else supposed
to have a right to be able to protect themselves
except for us.

Speaker 6 (01:20:17):
What's going on here? Mustapha?

Speaker 25 (01:20:20):
Yeah, what's going on is that we continue to live
in sacrifice zones and we're seeing as sacrificeable people. And
when you're seen as a sacrificeable person, that means that
these extreme measures are justified.

Speaker 14 (01:20:35):
In some people's minds, and I would even say justified
in the interpretation of the policies.

Speaker 25 (01:20:41):
So in Florida you have a standiard ground law, but
when it comes to our folks, you know, that.

Speaker 14 (01:20:47):
Doesn't always seem to play out in a positive way.

Speaker 25 (01:20:51):
So it is a part of this mentality that is
built into policy, that is built into enforcement, and there
is a lack of accountability when it comes to our
community's lives. We also overlay that with the fact that
we live in a country with four hundred million guns.
So when you have that many guns that are out there,

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we know that that's going to cause its own set
of stressors, but also of actions that are going to
unfortunately take place. And then we overlay that with the
fact that in the state of Florida that you know,
we have these laws that continue to dehumanize us. And
you also have the fact that in the last decade

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you have thousands upon thousands of people who have actually
been killed.

Speaker 14 (01:21:38):
By police and shot by police.

Speaker 25 (01:21:40):
So all these things come together and an equation that
often is very detrimental for our communities.

Speaker 9 (01:21:49):
Indeed, it is and representative Jackson when I think about
the fact that this is the person that family came
to because they saw him as a protector. You know,
this is a person who took his children to school
every day. This was a pillar of the community. And
when we think about really what is the thought of manhood, like,

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what is manhood? One of the main pillars of manhood
is to protect. This young man was in the process
of protecting the people that he loved, only to get
shut down five times in cold blood in his own
front yard, and here we are a month later, and

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the police are still you know, delay tactics, not being transparent,
doing all of the things that they can too to
gum up the system so that this family cannot receive
a measure of peace that can only be achieved through justice. Now,
when you are thinking about the situation, Representative Jackson, just

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what does it make you feel like as a black
man in America to see this level of violence that
can be perpetuated, not that even the unfortunately this is
an isolated incidence, just in the process of doing what
you are expected to do as a man, and that
is to protect.

Speaker 27 (01:23:18):
Your family, you know, Doctor Avs. I, well, first off,
I'm mixed emotions, right, I'm angry, I'm mad, I'm frustrated, right,
and not just because I'm a black man, but also
for our sisters.

Speaker 4 (01:23:36):
I mean, you think about.

Speaker 27 (01:23:39):
How did we get here the last two hundred years,
doctor Avis, we were never profiled as someone's husband, father, son, daughter, mother, protector.

Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
We were never profiled.

Speaker 27 (01:23:55):
And so it doesn't matter if the encounter with law
enforcement takes place at eleven PM or eleven am. They
don't see us in the same way. And so that's
why I'm so frustrated as a lawmaker because we now
have to add Daniel Lewis's name to all the.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
Many others known and unknown.

Speaker 27 (01:24:22):
Right, we know about Eric Gardner, we know about Michael
Brown and Tami or Rice and Breonna Taylor.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
But and we know about doctor King, we know about Mega.

Speaker 27 (01:24:33):
Evers Right, they don't see when you don't see an
individual as a husband and a father and a protector,
you see and you profile them.

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
In a certain way. Every time you encounter law enforcement,
the results are very fatal. Sometimes.

Speaker 27 (01:24:55):
There was a study done doctor Avis. The last fifteen years,
thirty nine hundred, over thirty nine hundred police officers were
involved in a police shooting a lot of them involved
with killings. But of that thirty nine hundred, only two
percent were convicted. And so when you look at that

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middle school number. We as lawmakers, we got to deal
with qualified immunity, We got to deal with civil lawsuits,
we got to deal with criminal charges. Everyone should be
held accountable if they misused and abuse their power, if
they misuse and abuse their oath, and if they're if

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they're going to be one that profile black people in
a different manner versus than what they did with Dylan Ruth.
Dylan Ruth killed nine innocent, humble souls and he's still breathing.
In fact, they took him to a restaurant after they

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arrested him.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
And so it's not.

Speaker 6 (01:26:01):
Training, is not laws.

Speaker 27 (01:26:04):
It is how do you profile life and other human
beings that one may consider them as a threat.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
And it doesn't matter what time of day.

Speaker 27 (01:26:16):
They don't see us as husbands and fathers and mothers
and daughters in the same manner as everyone else.

Speaker 6 (01:26:23):
I completely agree.

Speaker 9 (01:26:26):
And when I think about once again what you do, Randy,
it seems like this state, which as you've mentioned, has
even outlawed the words diversity, equity, and inclusion, it seems like,
you know, does their need to in a better world?

Speaker 6 (01:26:48):
Do police officers like that?

Speaker 9 (01:26:50):
Because I agree to me they did not see that
young man as human and that happens not just in Florida.

Speaker 6 (01:26:56):
I think that that's a.

Speaker 9 (01:26:57):
Lot of unfortunately pandemic the culture of policing in this
nation period.

Speaker 6 (01:27:04):
The fact that we are at a.

Speaker 9 (01:27:05):
Moment in time though now where that reality still exists.
But one of the things that can be done in
order to be able either to educate people better if
they have the responsibility of life and death over others
in a position like that, or maybe some way in
which organizations can screen better so they can strain out

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people that clearly have.

Speaker 6 (01:27:30):
Behavior and biased thought processes.

Speaker 9 (01:27:32):
It seems like the direction of this country is now
not to even go in the direction of try to
do anything to mitigate what we clearly see as a
pattern in this country.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
If anything, what we're seeing when we just.

Speaker 9 (01:27:45):
Turn a blind out of this situation is to just
double down and keep going in that direction. What happens
if we don't have people like you going into institutions
like that to try to be able to mitigate the
dam image that bias can create. When people can use
lethal force clearly based on biased ideologies.

Speaker 26 (01:28:11):
We continue to lose lives if we don't make changes,
and if they're not real consequences. I tell people, you know,
when people think about DEI they think about training, and
I cannot train or change somebody's heart. I'm great, but
I can't change someone's heart. I cannot change someone's heart.
But what I can do because people do act out
of their own self right, of their own self need

(01:28:35):
and self want and self protection.

Speaker 10 (01:28:37):
So what I encourage people to do is.

Speaker 26 (01:28:39):
They You must put policies in place that make it
uncomfortable and convenient painful for people to use discriminatory behavior,
particularly when it's ending people's lives. Right, So trust me,
people will act differently if they know that they are
that they have shown an abuse of power, particularly to

(01:29:03):
a certain group of people, that they'll be fired, that
they'll lose their pension, that if the city or state gets.

Speaker 10 (01:29:10):
Sued, that they have to pay for it out of
their own moneies.

Speaker 26 (01:29:13):
If they if they suffer, I promise you you will
see a change in behavior.

Speaker 10 (01:29:19):
That is why DEI policies matter.

Speaker 6 (01:29:22):
They weren't.

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
People wanted it to be these feel good kumbay y'all.

Speaker 10 (01:29:26):
Let me talk to you, Let me do a one
hour training and change your whole bias.

Speaker 6 (01:29:30):
Now.

Speaker 26 (01:29:31):
I mean some people, you know, if they will work
their lives to change, but that's not what it's about.
Let me help with the infrastructure, go throughout the entire
part of this organization. Yes, a little bit of training
to ensure that people know that they are rewarded when
they act decently, so that they have teams that are diverse,
that they're promoting people that are diverse, that their employees

(01:29:55):
are giving good satisfaction.

Speaker 10 (01:29:57):
If they're police officers, they don't.

Speaker 26 (01:29:59):
Have a whole lot of people complain against them because
you know, people do you know, should and do complain
and that they are punished severely and quickly when they
show discriminatory behavior. That's the only way things change. But
they're making it where just like you said, you know
what the people can you know if it's something, if

(01:30:20):
you do something, we're going to actually because of this
whole blue silence or whatever, this is this blue shield,
we're going to protect you. We're going to make it
where those men are probably going to work every single day,
or when they are put off, we always know that
they still get paid. That's what annoys me. They're still
getting their check. So I don't see how they're suffering
at all. You're telling me they're getting paid vacations while

(01:30:43):
they fake investigate charges.

Speaker 6 (01:30:46):
Oh my goodness, it is the same. Absolutely, it is
so frustrating.

Speaker 9 (01:30:50):
And to bring you in one more time, doctor Mustapa,
when we're thinking about just moving forward and once again
all that is at stake, because this to me is
once again it is part of what is at stake
in this next election. I think you alluded to before
that it is important when we think about elections, not

(01:31:10):
just to think about federal elections. We have to think
about what happens at the state and local level, and
when we think about policing, when we think about prosecutors
and all of those things.

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
It really shows the importance that people need.

Speaker 9 (01:31:23):
To put on Yes, voting at the top, but voting
all down the ticket, because they all impact our lives
in very very powerful way.

Speaker 14 (01:31:34):
Yeah, I mean, our vote is so incredibly powerful.

Speaker 25 (01:31:36):
When we had the attorneys that were on one of
the questions that I thought would be interesting is to
actually ask when that AFFI David was being pulled together,
who's the judge who.

Speaker 14 (01:31:46):
Signed off on it?

Speaker 25 (01:31:47):
What was the information that was shared with that judge
to make whether he or she make the decision to
say okay, go ahead. And that's tied to our vote
because in many instances, we determine whom the judges.

Speaker 14 (01:32:00):
Are, or who the mayor is, or who are the
individuals who are going to place people in those various positions.
So we've got to realize that we have so much power.

Speaker 25 (01:32:09):
I know, folks are busy, You're trying to put food
on the table, keep the lights on.

Speaker 14 (01:32:13):
But we're literally talking about life.

Speaker 25 (01:32:14):
And death and many of these decisions that go on
in relationship to our community. So all the way from
the state attorney General all the way down to the
district attorneys, we have the power to make sure there
are individuals who at least have some cultural competencies to
understand the dynamics that are going on in our communities.
And not just to understand those cultural competencies, but how

(01:32:37):
are you going to utilize those in the reformulation of policy,
and how do we also make sure that those folks
are in the state houses, on the county commissions, and
in local governments understand that we are going to hold
you accountable. Doesn't matter if you're a Democrat, Republican or
an independent. That we have a set of expectations and
we and we plan for those to be met or

(01:32:58):
we'll find somebody else to do the job.

Speaker 6 (01:33:01):
No, I think that is an important thing that we
all keep in mind.

Speaker 9 (01:33:05):
We actually have the power to make sure that we
have people in office at the various levels who will
fight for justice and if not, we can kick them out.
As long as we have a democracy, as long as
we have a democracy.

Speaker 6 (01:33:20):
That right there is a critical piece.

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With that said, we're going to take a quick break here,
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Speaker 6 (01:35:40):
According to the American Association.

Speaker 9 (01:35:41):
Of University Women, the wage gap for black women compared
to non Hispanic white men is sixty six cents for
every dollar paid. The National Women's Los Centers said that
this wage gap will cost a black woman working full
time nearly nine hundred.

Speaker 6 (01:35:56):
Thousand dollars over a lifetime.

Speaker 9 (01:35:58):
This gap continues to biden year after year impacting how
Black women financially support themselves, their families, and their future goals.
With more than eighty percent of Black mothers as the
sole breadwinner, co breadwinners, or primary breadwinner for their households,
and an equitable salary means the financial wellbeing of a
whole household is at stake. Today is Black Women's Equal Payday,

(01:36:21):
and Gloria L. Blackwell, CEO of the American Associating of
University Women, joins us from Washington, d C. To discuss
what is being done to ensure Black women get their
fair pay.

Speaker 6 (01:36:34):
Hello there, Gloria, wonderful.

Speaker 26 (01:36:37):
To see you.

Speaker 13 (01:36:38):
It's great to see you as well. Thank you so
much for having me here.

Speaker 9 (01:36:43):
Of course I had to have you on because you
guys do such great work at AAUW around the wage
gap and particularly with showing some great insight on Black
women around this particular key issue.

Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
Now, as I just mentioned, we're still behind.

Speaker 9 (01:37:00):
We have to work all the way up until what
is it July ninth of twenty twenty four to make
what the typical white male made at the end of
twenty twenty three.

Speaker 6 (01:37:10):
Are you getting tired of these statistics? I know, I
sure am.

Speaker 13 (01:37:12):
What the heck, I certainly agree.

Speaker 32 (01:37:16):
You know, when we talk about equal paydays, it's not
so much just about you know, people have to work
until a certain day to or in the same amount
right that a white non Hispanic male made as of
December thirty first of the previous year.

Speaker 13 (01:37:30):
You know, when we talk about it, we really need.

Speaker 32 (01:37:34):
To talk about it more comprehensively, because it's not just
about that day. It's about how the impact of getting
to that day transitions into an impact as you mentioned,
on the career, on the retirement right, on the ongoing
ability for black women to support their families, to contribute
to the economy.

Speaker 13 (01:37:53):
And you know, if we're talking about the pay gap.

Speaker 32 (01:37:56):
Now and the level that it is, research tells us
it's going to take over a century for that pay
gap to close for black women.

Speaker 13 (01:38:04):
And I don't think that anyone would agree that we
need to wait.

Speaker 32 (01:38:07):
Another one hundred years or more to earn a salary
that is justified based on our educational accomplishments and based
on what we have done throughout our career advancement. So
I think that, you know, black women's equal payday is
just another one of those days that we have to
elevate to bring attention to the fact that there is

(01:38:28):
that racial, engendered discrimination that is continuing to be perpetuated
throughout our workplaces.

Speaker 9 (01:38:36):
Absolutely, and when you really think about it, what particularly
curiates me about these statistics is the fact that even
though we only make about two thirds of what our
white male counterpart makes, we actually have the highest labor
force participation of all women in America. And that's been
the case ever since they've been calculating that statistic. So
we work harder, but we continue to be paid less.

(01:38:59):
Think about that.

Speaker 6 (01:39:01):
What do you think we need to.

Speaker 9 (01:39:03):
Be telling Black women in order to be able to
finally break through and to advocate better for ourselves so
that we can get a little bit closer to be
paying the paid fairly.

Speaker 6 (01:39:14):
What do we need to be fighting for?

Speaker 18 (01:39:16):
Right?

Speaker 32 (01:39:16):
So I think in part it really is about demanding
equity and demanding that the wage gap be be taken
care of.

Speaker 22 (01:39:25):
Right.

Speaker 32 (01:39:25):
So, for example, you know, black women vote at high rates,
and so forgetting people in office who are going to
make sure that legislation moves forward to close the gender
pay gap, you know, we really have to hold them accountable.
You know, one of the things that Awe. We asked
CNN last week to ask the candidates about, you know,

(01:39:48):
what are they going to do about closing the gender
pay gap, because we know that you know, black two
thirds of black women voted in twenty twenty. We have
the power to make a change and make a different
So it really is about, you know, attacking it from
that policy level, holding individuals accountable and holding our employers

(01:40:09):
accountable as well educating themselves about the laws that currently
are in existence, but are they being implemented fairly within
their organizations, within their companies, within the businesses where black
women are currently in the workplace, And it really is
important that they educate themselves about what those laws, what

(01:40:31):
those rules are, because so many employers are not being
held accountable, they're not following the guidelines because the laws
that are in place are not being enforced in the
way that they should be. And I think advocating for
the Paycheck Fairness Act, you know, making sure that we
update the Equal Pay Act of nineteen sixty three, just

(01:40:51):
making sure that we don't just get the laws on
the books that we hold our employers accountable. And black
women really need to educate themselves. They can go to
our website and see so many ways that they can
advocate that they can send those messages to Capitol Hill,
to the lawmakers, and to really make sure that they're
doing all that they can to have people understand that

(01:41:14):
laws exist, they need to be implemented, implemented so that
the racial engender discrimination that implex impacts Black women so
disproportionately is taken care of and is also just rendered
to zero once and for all.

Speaker 6 (01:41:30):
Absolutely.

Speaker 9 (01:41:31):
If it's okay, I think I'm gonna bring the panel
in because I believe they might want to ask you
a question or two around what we can do on
this Black Women's Equal pay Day to make sure that
finally Black women and families receive greater access to economic justice.
Let us see it.

Speaker 6 (01:41:45):
Can we bring the panel in as.

Speaker 9 (01:41:47):
They're bringing them up perfect, So I want to start
with I'm.

Speaker 6 (01:41:50):
Going to start with Randy.

Speaker 9 (01:41:51):
We're going to let ladies first, Okay, since this Black
Women's Equal Pay Day, what question?

Speaker 26 (01:41:56):
Like, you know, being in a field of I feel
like I'm sick of talking about this subject as well,
because it's so it should have just changed a long
time ago. How do you feel about you know, people
always are pushing equal rights for women and equal pay
for women, and we don't make as much as white women.

(01:42:19):
And since we are supposed to be you know, this
United Front, I'm always hearing about women rights. How do
you feel about organizations that don't spell out and make
clear that within you know, our group of women, Black
women do not make as much as white women and
that is so it's a whole separate issue.

Speaker 32 (01:42:39):
Yeah, I think that's that's a really great point, because
you know, we are a member of you know, so
many coalitions of gender based organization and those that are
fighting for women's rights and equal rights, and we actually
take the opportunity to bring everyone comes together to talk
about these equal paydays because it really is important that

(01:43:00):
we elevate the fact that while so many of these organizations,
you know, do have a focus on women overall, we
really have to make sure that we're lifting up women
of color. And so when we got together talking about
Black women's equal PAYDA, you know, we can't continue to
talk about just women overall. We can't keep pretending that

(01:43:22):
all women are going through these same injustices at the
same level. So elevating you know, what these figures mean
for black women, what these figures mean for black and
brown women overall, really provides a level of education so
that people understand, you know, you can't just toss the
term women out there. You really have to be very

(01:43:44):
specific about the racialized component and the racialized injustice that
has that incredible impact on black women because, like you,
you know, it's something that no one envisioned that we
would continue to be having the same conversation year after
year after year with that gap only closing in the

(01:44:04):
past twenty years, you know, five cents, you know, between
that of white non Hispanic men, and so it's taking
so long. Black women are earning degrees at higher rates
and higher levels, but we are not gaining the benefits.
So education has certainly not been the great equalizer.

Speaker 9 (01:44:26):
That is a great point there on doctor Mustapha. Yeah, well,
I'm curious how you feel about a couple of these points.

Speaker 25 (01:44:34):
One, I think that I, as a black man, have
a personal responsibility when I make it to the top
of an organization or moving up in the higher levels
of an organization, that I'm not only aware of this,
but I'm also taking action to make sure that we're
equaling out the pay. The second part of that is

(01:44:54):
the you had mentioned before sort of around accountability and
enforcement of existing law. I'm curious, based upon your years
of experience, why do we still continue to fail in
that space and are there additional things that we should.

Speaker 14 (01:45:10):
Be educating folks on so that they can push and
get engaged in the fight.

Speaker 13 (01:45:14):
A great well.

Speaker 32 (01:45:16):
I think part of the issue around the fact that
so many states have enacted pay transparency laws and are
trying to, you know, ensure that we're not asking for,
you know, their salary history bands that have been put
into place, so many of the of the incredible issues
that have been put in place that we have been

(01:45:36):
fighting for right to ensure that we are going to
you know, really chop down some of these factors that
add incredibly to the PIY gap and it's ongoing the
way in which it's continuing. But when we think about employers,
the key is that employers are not held accountable. We
know that for example, you know, when people are coming

(01:45:59):
to them and saying this is the law that you
should be doing, or it shouldn't be I shouldn't be
punished for talking about my compensation or my salary. You know,
there's so many things in place that people still get
penalized for, and I think the challenge is in educating
employees about these compensation laws and these compensation practices and

(01:46:21):
holding to be employers accountable. But it really is about
within your particular company or organization really finding those allies
who can be with you so that you're not approaching
it alone, because it's not just about you. It's about
ensuring also that everyone is treated fairly. And I think
for most workplaces, you see that people are still penalized

(01:46:45):
for sharing their salaries when they shouldn't be. You know
that people aren't being paid fairly and they're really afraid,
and in particular people of color when they step up
and want to have these conversations and confront their employers,
they are penalized in ways that you know, people who
are not people of color are not and so you know,

(01:47:07):
non people of color can get away with it, but
black people can. And they are finding that the severity
of the penalty is one that so many black and
brown people aren't willing to take the risk for. And
so the education and the finding of the allies and
holding employees accountable in ways that you can is one

(01:47:28):
of the huge steps.

Speaker 13 (01:47:29):
I think that would change the landscape of.

Speaker 9 (01:47:31):
Our workplaces absolutely, and Representative Jackson.

Speaker 4 (01:47:37):
MS Blackwell appreciate your work in this space.

Speaker 27 (01:47:40):
And as a father of four daughters and three sons,
you know, I always advocate and champion that I want
my four daughters to get paid at the same rate
as my three sons, because we all know, as you've
already articulated, the pay gap is not based on qualification,

(01:48:01):
it's not based on experience.

Speaker 4 (01:48:02):
It it is very specific around race and gender.

Speaker 27 (01:48:07):
But as a legislator, you know, I'm I'm sort of
stuck in this this this conundrum because there's a part
of the law that prohibits me for asking for that
information that I need to strengthen the law in other
areas at the state level so that way we're not
still talking about this sixty years from now.

Speaker 4 (01:48:30):
And so you know, what can what kind of advice
can you give me.

Speaker 27 (01:48:34):
As a lawmaker, as a legislator, what can we do
to where we do not create an environment that can
put our sisters into harm's way as we're trying to
reduce this gap that that you know that the Equal
Pay Act that was signed sixty years ago has yet

(01:48:55):
to achieve.

Speaker 32 (01:48:58):
Yeah, I appreciate because legislation is obviously and working on
the policy front is obviously one of the key ways
that we have been working as an organization and with
our coalition partners, right and so across our states, you know,
almost all states, including the District of Columbia and Puerto
Rico and Guamba, everyone has put something in place, and

(01:49:22):
you're right, we get it in place and you can
check that box. But what really happens after that? And
I think in part it's the way in which employers
are at the current state are not required, you know,
to submit their employment data based on race, and since

(01:49:43):
that has not been something that has been taking place recently,
we're trying to get that reinstated. There really isn't the
data that we do need right moving forward to be
able to hold them accountable, because if you don't have
to report it, then who knows what you're doing internally
in your company. And so getting back to the place
where we have that data on an annual basis, I

(01:50:06):
think would be really helped, and it would help in
the enforcement of ensuring that they are being you know,
in compliance with the laws that are set forth. And
also you know, just having more of an opportunity to
make sure that cases are being investigated when it is
put forth that individuals are are stating their case that

(01:50:28):
they have been discriminated against on the basis of race,
and you know the other factors that come into play.
And when you think about you know, your daughters and
the future that you know you want for them in
the workplace, you know, one of the things that we
are doing is we you know, we teach salary negotiation,
we're teaching financial literacy. It really is about educating our

(01:50:50):
people around, you know, the tactics that can really support
them in the workplace as well, and also educating them
around these types of laws so that they don't enter
into the workforce not understanding what their rights are. And
as a legislator, you know, understanding that this is an
issue that really has been addressed, you know, for so long,

(01:51:12):
and that we really can't wait another century for the
laws to be enforced to impact the overall economic security
of black women.

Speaker 9 (01:51:23):
Well, I have to tell you, Mss black Bell, thank
you so much for all the work that you do
at AAUW. I know that you all have been in
the fight for decades with this and you are going
to continue that fight. If people want to find out
more about the work that you do, how can they
get in contact with you?

Speaker 13 (01:51:40):
They can visit us at AAUW.

Speaker 32 (01:51:42):
Dot org and find out about all of our programs,
all of our legislation that we do, find out about
our two minute activists, where they can get in touch
with their legislators on the hill, and we would be
happy to provide all of that information because black women
deserve equal pay and they deserve to be honored for

(01:52:03):
the contributions that they make to our organization, star workplaces,
and to our communities.

Speaker 9 (01:52:10):
Absolutely, they do. I could not have said it better myself.
Thank you so much for joining us this evening. Thank
you absolutely, and listen, we'll be right back right after
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for you two? So y'all finishing each other's lines.

Speaker 3 (01:54:48):
Now, you're sort of like an old married couple where
you know who's what you're gonna do next.

Speaker 28 (01:54:52):
Yeah, well, you know we trust each other.

Speaker 40 (01:54:54):
It feels like something good's gonna happen. It's a comfort zone.
You know, something good it's gonna happened when we work together.

Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
How how much do you get to play in terms
of get to improvise and get the feed off of
each other.

Speaker 28 (01:55:06):
Well, the first one we improvised a lot. I mean
the first one. Uh, Taggert and Rosewood were developed that well.
And uh and and Marty Brest, the director, he was terrific,
and he gave Judge and me all the freedom we
wanted to.

Speaker 16 (01:55:22):
You got the script, is it you got?

Speaker 18 (01:55:25):
The script?

Speaker 16 (01:55:25):
Said, is it?

Speaker 22 (01:55:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:55:26):
We can do some stuff.

Speaker 22 (01:55:27):
Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 28 (01:55:29):
We've got the climbing over the wall stuff was all improvised.

Speaker 40 (01:55:32):
But then the script it said Tagger and rose would
sit in a none my.

Speaker 28 (01:55:36):
Car, that's all I said, yeah, And then we shoot
it that way a couple of times, and then Marty go, okay,
we got that. Now let's screw around it up.

Speaker 16 (01:55:46):
Yeah, and to have fun part. That's the one that
actually probably end up.

Speaker 28 (01:55:49):
Yeah. And the script on this one, this was pretty tight.
So yeah, we didn't have as much room to play.

Speaker 40 (01:55:55):
He wanted to stick to the when you have a
director that's also one of the right.

Speaker 11 (01:56:01):
He really holds on to those words.

Speaker 16 (01:56:06):
The first one came about forty years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:56:09):
Does it still shock you how people respond to the
movie and your characters.

Speaker 28 (01:56:18):
Yeah yeah, I mean, honest to god, it doesn't feel
like forty years ago.

Speaker 22 (01:56:22):
It feels like yesterday.

Speaker 28 (01:56:24):
But it's kind of fun to walk down the street
and I still it. Hey, tigger, don't let him put
up then in your jail fire.

Speaker 16 (01:56:32):
Some folks are bothered by that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:33):
Richard Roundtree was complaining about people kept calling him John Shaft.

Speaker 1 (01:56:37):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:56:38):
His dad said, yeah, I read that, and I said, son, yeah,
people remember you for something. He said, you need to
get over that. Well, and it changed his perspective on that.

Speaker 18 (01:56:47):
That's right.

Speaker 28 (01:56:48):
When it first started. I mean, I got my degree
in theater, I've done a lot of stuff and a
lot of other movies, and but when it first started happening,
I was really bothered by it. I went, hey, man,
I've done a lot of other things. I'm not just taggered,
you know. But after a while I embraced it, and
I said, you know what, there's not too many actors

(01:57:10):
that can put a stamp on a role that's going
to be They're going to be known for eternity, and
you better take it and go with it. And now
I enjoy it.

Speaker 40 (01:57:19):
Judge, everything has its price. I've heard that I didn't
get roles because I was too identified with the movie.
But here we are a celebrated franchise that the world loves,
and so you know, it's a double wait sword. But
I think to be identified with the new genre because

(01:57:39):
it was at that time a new genre that you know,
we're proud of that.

Speaker 3 (01:57:44):
So talk about your relationship over these years with Eddie Murphy.

Speaker 40 (01:57:49):
Right, Well, even though we don't see each other, we've
collectively gone through this so every time we see him,
we're we're closer.

Speaker 16 (01:57:58):
It's like family reunion.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
Yeah, yeah, like that.

Speaker 40 (01:58:03):
Yeah, Especially the first time we'd seen each other in
years was when we shot the unmarked car scene and
Hey got in and the first thing he said, well
he looked at us and he said, well, at least
we still resemble our character, but the chemistry was still there.

(01:58:24):
It just like I said, it just felt like something
good was going to happen.

Speaker 22 (01:58:27):
You know, you didn't know what, but you knew it
was gonna be good.

Speaker 3 (01:58:31):
And obviously we changed, we age and all of those
different things along those lines. And for both of you,
your characters have gone through a lot. They just had
to put you through hell in this one.

Speaker 18 (01:58:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm from Texas.

Speaker 16 (01:58:45):
Wheel friends called road hard hung.

Speaker 4 (01:58:46):
Up with.

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 40 (01:58:50):
Yeah, yeah, Actually we pulled back on that because when
I I really went for it with the makeup artist
and I had my eye was shut and stuff and
showed up on set.

Speaker 11 (01:59:01):
And marks it. No, no, no, that's too groaty.

Speaker 16 (01:59:03):
It's not a horror movie. Funnest part for you doing
this with him?

Speaker 28 (01:59:10):
Uh, just getting back into the relationships, you know, and
and uh and I've said this before. You know, I
have a lot of Eddie and I have a little
friction in this one a little time. But but that's
what friends are like. Yeah, but we developed the friendship
in our personal life and and and in our theatrical life.

(01:59:31):
So I mean, friends disagree with one another every now
and then, but they're still friends. And I think that
still comes across. And I think the audience appreciates that.
You know, they can identify with that. You know, my
best friend I can get in an argument with, but
I still love him. He's still my friend.

Speaker 18 (01:59:47):
Absolutely.

Speaker 11 (01:59:48):
We don't talk anymore. I know it seems that we're
very cordial, but I haven't talked to you.

Speaker 28 (01:59:55):
Yeah, him might try to stay away from him, but
you know what Eddiot's good.

Speaker 3 (01:59:59):
As we say, yeah right, Jamen, we appreciate it, appreciate
you all right.

Speaker 9 (02:00:05):
Thank you so much for joining us this evening. Thank
you to the incredible panel that gave us wonderful insights.
And thank you so much to the Roland Martin family
for having me back in this chair.

Speaker 4 (02:00:17):
We sure hope that Roland is feeling better soon.

Speaker 6 (02:00:20):
Until the next time, we will.

Speaker 9 (02:00:22):
See you tomorrow and Roland Martin unfiltered at the Black
Star Network and until then, Allah.

Speaker 5 (02:00:35):
A real revolutionary right now, just say black media, make
sure that our stories are told.

Speaker 6 (02:00:41):
Thank you for being the voice of Black America.

Speaker 4 (02:00:43):
Rolling all Moore meant we now we have to keep
this going.

Speaker 6 (02:00:48):
The video looks phenomenal.

Speaker 7 (02:00:50):
See this between Black Star Networks and black owned media
and something.

Speaker 18 (02:00:55):
Like seeing in.

Speaker 8 (02:00:56):
You can't be black owned media and be scape.

Speaker 36 (02:00:59):
It's time to be smart.

Speaker 4 (02:01:00):
Bring your eyeballs home, you dig

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