Tarrant Co. Texas Jail Deaths, Courting The Black Vote, Bryon Donalds & Jim Crow, Menthol Ban

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Marte Today's Thursday June sixth, twenty twenty four, coming up

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on roland Mark on the Filter, streaming live on the
Black Star Network. More than sixty people have died have
died in the Tarrant County, Texas jail since twenty seventeen,
leaving families fighting for answers to the latest. Anthony Johnson Junior,
his sister was removed from Commissioner's court yesterday when she
demanded answers. Anthony Johnson's family and the attorney are joining

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us to discuss what is going on in Travis County,
not far from Terran County. The DA is challenging the
Governor of Texas, Greg Abbot's parton of Daniel Perry, the
white supremacist convicted of killing a.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Black Lives Matter protester.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Republicans and Democrats are doing what they can to court
the black vote. The executive director of Black Pack would
join us to discuss their plans to mobilize black voters
this election. Also, Congression Byron Donald's released the video saying,
see I didn't say what y'all said I did about
Jim Crow and he.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Actually thinks it makes him look better.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
But it does not we'll also talk about a new
report that shows that black and brown folks don't trust
mainstream white media not a shot. Also Detroit's efforts to
ban men thought Broughdutu as the Bodydministration delays. The band
themselves will discuss that, and I'll share with you some

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of the stuff from the Steve Harvey's Liberty Golf Classic
yesterday in Atlanta. It's time to bring the funk. I'm
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Speaker 1 (03:08):
On April twenty first of this year, thirty one year
old Anthony Johnson allegedly did not let detention officers in
the Arrant County jail search his celle doing during routine
sell checks. Jailers used pepper spray to get Johnson quote
under control. While medical staff examined him, Johnson became unresponsive.

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He was transported to a local hospital, where he was
pronounced dead. At Tuesday's Arrant County Quarter Commissioner's meeting, Johnson's sister,
Janelle was physically removed from the room after yelling and
telling County Judge Tim O'Hare to look at her while
she spoke about the death of her brother.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Well, it looks like I'm back. It's been a month
since my brother's death. A month and we still.

Speaker 8 (04:04):
Have no answers.

Speaker 10 (04:06):
A month and now the people who killed my brother
are sitting at the house kidding paid right.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
A month since I've seen you got But how did
see you? Look at you got?

Speaker 11 (04:22):
Kid?

Speaker 6 (04:28):
Refused to see us, have refused look the doors? Paes said,
yes he is here now to see Yes is here now?
How is.

Speaker 12 (04:43):
The public's kill?

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Folks?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Johnson is one of more than sixty deaths in the
Tar County jails. Is Sheriff Bill Waybourne, a MAGA Republican,
took office in twenty seventeen. Waybourne's office partially attributed the
death to an increased population and short staffing.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
That's sixty dead, y'all.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
The County also has been the target of lawsuits for
Jaylor's alleged treatment of detainees.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Joining us.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Now it's Anthony Johnson's parents, Jacqueline and Anthony Senior, his
sister Janelle, and their attorney, Darryl K. Washington lab to
have all of you here first, let me start with
Jacqueline and Anthony Senior. First of all, how long was
your son in the Arrant County jail.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
He was in the Terror County jail approximately.

Speaker 6 (05:49):
Eight hours.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Oh wait, I'm sorry eight hours.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Oh yeah, it wasn't even a full day.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Okay. First of all, what was he what was he
arrested for? Four My son.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Suffered from schizophrenia for almost ten years, So that Friday
before his untimely death, he tried to get Hi admitted
into a facility in significance of that Roland. Was that
facility he was in maybe February of this year, so
a month or two before. They denied him, saying that

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he was not being a threat to himself or to
anyone else. So from that he went out. Maybe two
or three hours later he was arrested by a neighboring
PD second All Police Department, and then that next morning

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he was taken to Tarrant County Jail, so it was
less than twenty four hours before his death.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
What is perplexing to me here is one I think
this is part of the problem in this country where
someone suffers from mental illness and the response is to
put them in jail as opposed to a mental health facility.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
He's there only only eight hours, Daryl.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Have they released any Is there any bodycam footage? Is
there any footage from the jail that wait to actually
see what happened when they entered his particular cell bro.

Speaker 13 (07:29):
And there's actually two different versions of a video which
you were showing earlier in your clip that was actually
a video that captured the incident on a cell phone.
But you can clearly see in this video that one
of the jailers, the guy who's standing at the back
jail and Marino, was called by one of his supervisors

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to actually come and put his knee on Anthony's back
and neck. You can clearly see that Anthony was not resistant.
He was in handcuffs, and this guy kept his knee
on Anthony's back despite Anthony saying on a couple of
occasions that he could not breathe they just clearly ignored
it and they just left him there to die. But Roland,

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let me tell you what we see in that six
minute video is not the egregious part. This video was
about fifteen minutes. It's what you don't see is the
bad part. And this is the part that we have
been trying to get the Sheriff's department to release to
the public and they've refused to. But when people actually
see the remaining eight to nine minutes of that video,

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people are going to be extremely disturbed by what their witness.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Janelle, you were removed from Commissioner's Court and look you
got several commissioners there.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
What have they said?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
What has been Because people don't understand they are responsible,
they oversee county administration. Even though the sheriff is elected,
his budget comes from the commissioners Court.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
What have they said in all of this time.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
They haven't said anything. First, mister Waybourne, since we've been
that wasn't my first time at the Terran County Commissioning work.

Speaker 8 (09:17):
I was there a month ago, like I said it.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
So even those two times, Chef Waybourne hasn't even shown
up to address.

Speaker 8 (09:25):
But with the meetings, they don't.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
Really say anything.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
They just you know, allow other people to say something.
But what really triggered me and what got me was,
you know, even before then, it was the lack of attention.
And when everybody else was on that court, including Miss Simmons,
they were giving me their uninvited And it wasn't until
I mentioned unpaid leads when I see mister O'Hare started

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shuffling his papers and for me, and which you'll see,
my bug, there's a marine. My father's a marine. So
I grew up knowing that when you are talking to somebody,
especially of this importance or any type of importance, how
you'll know someone's listening to you. They'll give you eye contact,
they will give you direct attention. Even mister Wayborn when

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I first spoke with them, even with that mister Weber,
gave me that attention. So when I'm demanding that for
mister o' hair and he decides to now he wants
to shuffle and not give me attention, it's triggering.

Speaker 8 (10:29):
Because you killed my brother.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
This isn't like, you know, an accident or we're just
some angry residents.

Speaker 8 (10:37):
You guys murder.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
And then I prove to you guys that you guys
don't know what you're doing, and now every step of
the way you're proving that. And for him to have
politely let us know what the rules were before we
even step up to speak, and I made sure that
I wasn't using any type of privanity or anything like that.

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All I wanted was attention. All I wanted was for
him to look at me while I'm speaking, because it has.

Speaker 8 (11:07):
Been a month.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
You guys pritically were talking about voter fraud.

Speaker 8 (11:11):
You guys were talking about the.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Texas Rangers while we're sitting there, and it's like, we
don't have any answers.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
So how are you telling the public from.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
The back end what you guys have been working on
and where our money is going towards.

Speaker 8 (11:24):
And yet we don't have any answers.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
And you're not going to police how I speak to
you because it may make you thoughts some type of way,
and I'm the one experiencing the debt. That's not how
this is about to work.

Speaker 8 (11:37):
We've been in this home for twenty years. We're twenty
year tax payers.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
We pay their salaries, so they owe what's that respect
to at least give us their undivided attention.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Daryl.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
It has to be absolutely frustrating for someone to die
at the hands of in a jail, in a county facility,
not even there a day, and to essentially get blown
off by the sheriff and his bosses.

Speaker 13 (12:16):
Roland, this has been extremely frustrating. And let me just
say a couple of things, Roland. There's been actually about
there's been sixty six debts since twenty seventeen. There's been
six debts alone in twenty twenty four. A young lady
just actually died in jail last week. But two of
the jailers who were involved in this incident were terminated

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a couple of weeks ago, and because the sheriffs did
not follow the rule, these jailers were reinstated. We are
hoping that they're now going to be terminated once again, Rolling,
and we expect them probably within the next week. That
there should be criminal charges filed in this case. But
one of the things you say something that is very key.

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People who are dealing with mental illness should not be
in jail, well, Rolling. There was a survey that was
conducted in over sixty seven percent of the individuals who
are in Arrant County jail are dealing with the mental illness.
Those individuals should not be in jail. They should be
in a mental facility. And what we have to realize
is that this is jail, this is not prison. A
great majority of the individuals who are there, they are

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there temporarily and they have not had their day in court.
And most of these individuals are going to be found innocent.
So they just should not be dying in jail. This
is just totally unacceptable. It's been something that's been going
on for quite some time and we demand and change Roland.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Well, so any is it?

Speaker 1 (13:42):
First of all, is the Department of Justice looking into
the Terran County jail.

Speaker 13 (13:47):
That's one of the things Roland that we that we
really have been demanded. I know mister Johnson has been
very vocal about that of Roland. With this family wants
to happen. They don't want this to happen to anyone else.
But you know, the sheriff was given an interview last
week and he said, this guy made the comment that

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Terrn County jail is a great place to be. I
mean he was talking about the jail as if he
was talking about rich culture are somewhere, and this guy
is just totally disconnected with what's going on, and we
just really need change. The Department of Justice needs to
come in because this is just too many debts.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
You said that Anthony Johnson's senior has been quite vocal
about this, Sir, go right ahead and share your thoughts.

Speaker 14 (14:37):
Yes, sir, mister Rowland, this nature should have never even
taken place.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
So for the fact that the sheriff thinks that his facility.

Speaker 14 (14:50):
Is surprised, he failed to be mentioned to the public
how his staff should have never had Anthony in there,
and it was he who told me about where he
should have gone.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
So with all that.

Speaker 14 (15:06):
Being said, yes, this needs to go higher. This needs
to go hid in the sheriff when he the sheriff
fires done.

Speaker 15 (15:14):
He should have been going with them.

Speaker 14 (15:17):
My response, now, sir, is those above, how do you
sit there? How do you policy makers sit where you
are knowing that what we have here in Texas, considering
all the people that you have.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Coming here now, it's just ridiculous. And for sheriff, we'yborn.

Speaker 14 (15:37):
Come on now, this is beyond stupidity, let alone disrespect.
And so I'm just asking for the answer. We already
know what happened so releasing. If you're so sure that
everything you've done is so innocent, you got the next

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hour for the next time mister.

Speaker 15 (16:02):
Martin comes on there.

Speaker 14 (16:04):
It just releasten show the public how clean and thoughtful
Texas Tarmon County is, because see, I've been here for
twenty years and I've been quiet.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Until now, and I apologize.

Speaker 15 (16:18):
To the world with that. But see, I have more
pressing issues at him.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
I have a son, a schizophrenicy.

Speaker 15 (16:26):
Iman out of the Marine Corps.

Speaker 14 (16:29):
So what I have going on dealing with my son,
Tarrn County, you were getting a blessing because I wasn't
asking you for anything. He had mental illness and you
were supposed to take care of him from that perspective,
and that only did not need anything from Texas. So

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I believe, mister Martin that the dogs step in here
they want to hear what them And when I say they,
I'm talking about Tarrn County, the only policing and themself from.

Speaker 15 (17:00):
The rangers, the DNA, please himself clean Billy a month.

Speaker 14 (17:06):
They give you three minutes to speak, but they need
more than.

Speaker 9 (17:10):
A month to justify death.

Speaker 14 (17:13):
It's ridiculous and as far as being angry. Now I'm
beyond angry, mister Martin.

Speaker 15 (17:19):
We need on ability.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
This is.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
October thirteenth, twenty twenty one. The Department of Justice announced
this that they were investigating a statewide investigation into the
conditions in five of the juvenile correctional facilities in the state.
I certainly believe that one needs to be needs to

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be happen here with Terren County, Darryl have y'all. Have
y'all submitted a letter to Christian Clark in the Civil
Rights Division, Department of Justice.

Speaker 13 (17:54):
We actually have made contact Roland and they are looking
into it.

Speaker 15 (17:57):
But Roland, I want.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
To second when we say he make contact, what does
that mean.

Speaker 13 (18:03):
We we've spoken with someone with the Department of Justice,
and as you know, they have their their formalities that
they have to go through.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
UH.

Speaker 13 (18:10):
They they have actually been in Tarrant County's jail once before.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
UH.

Speaker 13 (18:16):
But again, we've tried to get the discoveries, tried to
get that information rolling and UH. And I will say
that there's a commissioner. Commissioner at Lisa Simmons have been
a very she's been very vocal behind that in calling
for the Department of Justice to come in. So you
have someone who is a Tarrant County commissioner who is
also saying that, look, what we have gone on within

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our jail is problematic.

Speaker 15 (18:40):
We need some intervention.

Speaker 13 (18:41):
We need someone to come in because if it doesn't happen,
we're going to continue to have these debts.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Oh, no doubt. And that's abundantly clear. We appreciate h
y'all for coming on. I would I would absolutely, Daryl,
I would say, uh should I would? I would say,
I'm to have you in the family submit a formal
letter to the Civil Rights Division in Christian Clark, and
I'm highly confident that she will meet with meet with

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you and the family to discuss this.

Speaker 13 (19:14):
Absolutely, Roland, we definitely when that video comes out, Roland,
we want to make sure that you are the first
person to get it because you highlight these stories and
you make sure that the things that are impact in
our community, you get it out there when mainstream media
will not get it out. But Roland, when you see
that video, you're going to see these individuals slapping mister
Johnson for seven minutes.

Speaker 15 (19:34):
They didn't even know he was dead.

Speaker 13 (19:36):
They actually strapped him up in a wheelchair and was
checking his blood pressure, all this while he was dead.
So when you see this video, Roland, it's one of
the worst that I've seen in over my twenty five
years in practice.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Stunning, stunning.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
To the Johnson family, we are absolutely sorry for your loss,
but we will definitely keep intention focused on this.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Go ahead now, we are supporters rolling, so you keep
doing what you're doing as well.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
Yes, thank you as well and giving us some voice.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
I appreciate it. Thank you so very much. We'll love
hopefully we'll be chatting with you soon. When DJ announced
that they're stepping in because they need something needs to happen,
sixty six dead in the last seven years, that is
an abomination.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Absolutely, thank you so very much, Thank you very much,
Thank you. Thanks. I'm going to go to break. We'll
be right back.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
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Speaker 9 (20:34):
So people, when COVID happened, poor people were dying at
a rate already of eight hundred people a day before COVID.
If you went to a funeral every single day, it

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would take you six hundred years to attend all the
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about this political genocide. But we are determined today to
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and elected leaders to lift from the bottom so that

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everybody can rise.

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one step forward to say that everybody has a right
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It is caused by those who make the policy.

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They are over.

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One hundred and thirty five million poor and low wage,
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Speaker 11 (22:18):
The biggest block of potential voters by far is low income.

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Low wage voters.

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I can't afford medicine.

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I'm tired of getting sick, not being able to go
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Speaker 2 (23:05):
Food or clothes.

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You cannot claim to care about families and a culture
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rob people of equal access to resources and to force
them to live in poverty.

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Leadership of both parties had waged war on poor people
and low wage worders.

Speaker 7 (23:22):
And this government has treated people experiencing poverty, including their
military families, with disdainful, deliberate, malicious neglect.

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So the truth is that my son died from poverty.

Speaker 19 (23:34):
We refuse to accept poverty as the fourth leading cause
of death.

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The fourth leading cause of death in this the richest
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Come, and we need to do it with the loudest
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We will boss our demands and register our vote.

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When we stand up and when we stand to God,
things change.

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There is the electorate that is, and then there is
the electorate that should be.

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We are here, we will be seen, we will be heard,
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Speaker 1 (25:37):
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Victoria Burke, Black Press USA, Auto Out of All Into
Virginia also also joining us on the show.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Uh is uh the leader.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Of the organization Black Pack, Adrian Shropshire. They of course
very much involved what was happening out here on the
campaign trail. I want to start with you, agent. We're
going to talk about several things, but I want to
bring you in on this here before I do that,
there's a video that y'all posted on your social media

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accounting y'all been out there going door to door talking
to voters in Ohio, in Wisconsin, in these battleground states.
And so if Control Room y'all have that video already,
it's in video play back. Let's go ahead and play
that on first.

Speaker 7 (26:35):
You know, people ask every day what have Joe Biden
and Kamala Harris really done for us? You got a
minute because I got receipts. How about this? The first
black woman on the Supreme Court. Ever, how about sixteen
billion dollars to support HBCUs and one hundred and fifty
three billion in counting in student loans forgiven police in

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criminal justice reform? Joe and Kamala did that too, banning
choke holds for federal officers. They also pardoned thousands convicted
of marijuana possession and made historic investments in our k
through twelve public schools and remember getting those checks to
help with groceries and help to make rent and mortgage
payments here. Joe and Kamala did that too. And yeah,

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you might not have heard a lot of this because
Joe and Kamala don't run their mouths like that other guy.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
They just get things done.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Adrian, One of the things that I have consistently showed
on this show is the contrast between the Department of
Justice under Biden Harris and the Department of Justice under
Donald Trump. What we just heard from the Johnson family
in Fort in Terren County is a perfect example of that.
You have a DOJ that has literally had I think

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it's not up to ten Patterson practice investigations of police departments.
They have been investigating not only juvenile facilities in Texas,
but other jails and other prisons in others counties in
other states. They have been actually getting convictions, sending Warton's
to prison, sending correctionals, correctional officers to prison. And frankly,

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I've been highly critical of the Biden has administration.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Because they haven't talked about it. DLJ.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
They've had news conferences, We've covered it, they issued press releases,
but the White House.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Is not focused on this.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Although they were unable to they got the George Floyd
Justice Act out of the House, unable to get it
from the Senate. You have seen real work done in
criminal justice reform.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
They just your at lose to it. They just haven't
been loud about it.

Speaker 9 (28:53):
Right.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
Yes, and so this is exactly what we hear from people,
whether it's on the doors or in our focus groups
that we've been doing for the last several months, is
that people feel We literally have people say, well, they
need to start running their mouths or they need to
start bragging.

Speaker 8 (29:09):
We need to we need to know.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
From them, and I think they're beginning to do some
of that now, but it was important for us to
be able to put out there the kinds of things
that the Biden Harris administration has done, because they are
things like criminal justice reform and many of the other uh,
you know, issues that we listed in the ad. They
are important to our community and people want to know
and when you tell people about it. And this is

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the other thing that's important and that we have watched
happen as we've been talking to folks. People are unaware
of what the administration has done. You tell them what
they've done, they're surprised and the actually they move in
terms of their support of the president and the vice president.
And so, you know, as we think about going into

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this last half of the campaign cycle, it's important that
we make sure that people understand what has happened. It's
important that we make sure that they understand what didn't
get done too, and that but that how's the possibility
of getting done in a in a second Biden term.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
This this agreasi again, it just sort of just drives
me crazy, uh because if you're doing the work, folks
got to know you do the work.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
And And I kept saying repeatedly to the campaign, to
the White House and others that January to August should
have been what I call education and information stage where
you were flooding the zone saying we did this and
this and this and this and this.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Little that has happened.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
But here we now are here, We're now in June,
and I keep saying your runaway has now gotten shorter.
That has to be amped up in a considerable way
because Terres Woodberry has told has told us in those
focused groups, people come in with an attitude saying this, this,
this didn't get done. And then where they're told this, this,

(30:57):
this got done, it literally flips the focus group.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Right.

Speaker 21 (31:02):
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out which'all waiting on Hello,
Like y'all have done a lot of things over the
past four years now, I mean are three years and
some change. A lot of the initiatives that they're just
starting to talk about, Like a couple of weeks back,
it was about medical debt and something else like the
sixteen billion dollars for HBCUs. It's like, yeah, I was

(31:22):
covering it two years ago at the White House or
three years ago when y'all announced it. So y'all just
now get around to talk about this. The thing about
it is, and we talk about this all the time
on the show Roland. They have not built an information infrastructure.
They built a give me five hours rush five hours.
The deadline is coming, and that's why they raised one
hundred million dollars. I don't know what they're doing with
it exactly when they need to be really focusing on

(31:44):
the information infrastructure because the other side has focused on
a disinformation infrastructure that has created these attitudes that you're
talking about in these focus groups and that Adrian is
referring to in terms of the door to door engagement
that they're doing, where people have their perception that nothing
has been done. That's just flat out not true. But
the onus is on the administration. The onnus is on

(32:05):
the Democratic Party, who has the resources, who has the
ability to do more to get the message out. And
you cannot rely on the mainstream media. You can't just
pay a couple of you know, gen Z tech talkers,
no shade to them to post a couple things, to
come to the White House and kick it for a
little bit and think that that's going to move the needle.

Speaker 8 (32:22):
You have to be relentless.

Speaker 21 (32:24):
About messaging your accomplishments, the same way that the Progressives
were relentless about Today is a good day to Cancil
student did the same way that the Republicans are relentless about.

Speaker 8 (32:33):
You need to go to the border.

Speaker 21 (32:35):
And a number of other issues. The Democrats have to
be disciplined about acknowledging and really touting their accomplishments. And
they need to have at least a big three of
things that they can tout each time, every time so
that it just is seared into people's brains.

Speaker 8 (32:52):
And I don't think that they've really done that.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Just yet, Adrian.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
When we talk about issues, issues, issues, issues, issues and issues,
they absolutely matter, and you can't rely on TV ads,
you can't rely on radio ads and the work that
y'all are doing. I said that they should be hosting conversations.
They should be having black mayors and county commissioners and

(33:19):
activists and willing to literally say hey, come and ask
your questions. So when someone says, well I wanted this
to happen, hold on one second, boom, this is actually
what happened.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
This is how much money was allocated.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
This and if something didn't get happened, say this is
who was responsible, this is why this didn't happen.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
Right, And I know that the vice president has been
doing some of that. As of late, she's been convening
both on economic issues, economic mobility issues, as RESI said,
a number of issues where she's been pulling folks together
across the country.

Speaker 8 (33:53):
But I think that's right.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
I mean, one of the things that's of concern to us,
and part of the reason why we launched the the
ad campaign when we did, is because we know that
the other side is really clear about the investment that
they're making and confusing people. Political is just reporting today
that Tim Scott has a super pack that is going

(34:14):
to spend fourteen million dollars engaging voters of color. Well,
we know what that engagement is going to be. It's
going to be untruthful. It's going to be misinformation and
misdirection and confusion. And if we're not seeing that kind
of investment on our side, then we have a real problem.
There's a structural communication problem that we've had for some
time and we need to address. But I think that

(34:34):
you know the ways in which that you're both correct
in that the idea that just putting an adder to
up on television is going to move people isn't true.
And we know that folks are on social we know
that you need, we need to engage them digitally. Radio
is actually really important in our community, and so it's
important to be there. The problem is no one is
on radio right now. I mean we are, but I

(34:56):
believe we're probably the first to go up.

Speaker 8 (34:59):
But MAGA Inc. Has been up.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
In all the markets that are important that are talking
to black voters for a long time now, and they've
been saying again spreading the same kind of misinformation, attempts
at division, identifying wedges issues that they think they can
peel black folks off from from being Biden voters.

Speaker 8 (35:19):
They've been up right, and so it is past time.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
You know.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
I've been talking about we need to flood the zone
for a while now, and I think that's beginning to happen.

Speaker 8 (35:29):
It will be a problem though, if they if.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
Anyone thinks that we can wait until post convention to
just sort of, you know, overwhelm people with advertising. The
campaign is going to be set now, and so between
now and the convention, there needs to be a really
robust effort to be communicating with black voters, telling them
exactly the things that we're trying to say in our

(35:53):
ass This is what the administration has done.

Speaker 8 (35:55):
But also reminding.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
Them of the stakes and the choice that we have
to make as a community and what different choices mean,
not for ourselves, just ourselves as individuals, but what it
means for our families and what it means for our community.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
You know, Lauren, listen the campaign where they were pleased
with the rollout last week of Blacks for Biden. Harris,
I'm still going, I don't know how the hell you
will please with that, because again, what Adrian just said
is crucial. This is not a question up and again
I have seen it. Look, we've run some of the
commercials you know on our network, Okay, and I've seen

(36:33):
so I've seen all the commercials. I've seen all they
put out. But that doesn't explain policy. And when you're
talking about if you're making an investment again, so let's
just say talk about let's say black owned radio, and
so you're talking about NAYBOD National Association of Black on Broadcasters,

(36:53):
and then you're talking about let's say Urban one is.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
A part of that.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Well, if you've got your syndicated programming, Urban one has
Ricks My Show, they've got Erica Campbell, Deal Hugley, and
a host of other shows that reach younger demographics. Not
only should you be advertising on those platforms as a
part of that, your deal should be with the money
that we're spending, and especially spending enough. We want to

(37:17):
see segments on those shows where questions are being asked,
information is being given, so you're explaining in four, five, six, seven,
eight minutes about policy. One of the reasons why the
Tom Joiner Morning Show was so effective is because it
wasn't just Tom talking. It wasn't just my segment, It

(37:39):
wasn't just Jeff Johnson's segment, it wasn't just Jackie Reid's segment.
You had multiple conversations happening about policy that somebody can
actually digest. The folks who are sitting here at the
Biden Harris campaign and all of these progressive packs and
let me and I'm going to include all of them

(38:00):
as well, plus the DNC and the DSCC and the
d Triple C. I'm sitting here going, are y'all blind?
I know we've had all five or six black poles
done in the past three months. It's in the data.
Folks don't know what you've done. You might want to
get on that horse and start explaining it.

Speaker 11 (38:22):
Yeah, well, a few of the things that reci said,
We're right on the money with regard to the lack
of consistency on a top three messaging strategy. I mean,
there's the Democratic Party obviously has a very big tent,
and so there are a lot of constituencies to be satisfied,
but you should be able to pick out three accomplishments
that everyone can repeat very comfortably. The other thing is

(38:46):
there is a attempt finally with regard to an information infrastructure.
It's called the Courier Newsroom Group, which just really started
and is nowhere near the influence of what we see
on the right.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
What the hell is that? What does that call it?

Speaker 11 (39:05):
If you if you go if you google Courier news
Group or Courier Newsroom, Courier, Courier.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
C O U R I E R.

Speaker 11 (39:16):
It's a whole infrastructure they're trying to start on the
left to counter a lot of what's going on the
right with regard to the right wing ecosystem, and it's
not as well funded.

Speaker 8 (39:28):
Again to Reese's point, where.

Speaker 11 (39:30):
Is all this money going, Because if it's not going
into communications strategy in a really hard way, I have
no idea where it's going. I dare say a lot
of it should go to people how to do memes
on TikTok and Instagram and know how to do very
short messaging that is very quick and effective. Right after
that Philadelphia event, there were several events in Virginia, which

(39:54):
should make every Democrat very nervous because that would mean
that Virginia is.

Speaker 8 (39:58):
Actually in play.

Speaker 11 (40:00):
And at those events, they did have a very wordy
flyer of Biden. Harris's team had a very worthy flyer
that I think was very detailed about what President Biden
has done. I think it was very good in terms
of the actual substance. But you've got to kind of
bring that to the TikTok Okay.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
I'm curious there were several events in Virginia. Who knew?
Who knew? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Well, like like, for instance, where where for me, where's
the results of that?

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Where? Where are the live streams? Uh?

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Where are the clips from those events that are being
sent out and spread across the platforms and the being shared. Again,
if I'm looking at an ecosystem, if those things were happening,
then black packs should have been getting stuff from that
Black Voter Project should have been getting Part.

Speaker 11 (40:52):
Of it is that if you. Then this is part
of the struggle. And I've been talking to a few
candidates in Virginia about this issue that you just brought
up rolling, which is everything is very to quote John Conyers,
it's like we're talking to ourselves. I mean, it's like
everything is very insular in terms of communications to people
who already know and are already actively engaged in party activity.

(41:13):
So a lot of these events, I mean, there was
an event in Suffolk, Newport News, Norfolk Prince William, but
those people who showed up at those events are already
involved with the Democratic parties. So you get to a
point where you do have this struggle of not getting
the real grassroots. And as John good, seeing you, good
seeing you again, Adrian, I didn't mean to ignore you
at the beginning of this conversation, but at any rate,

(41:36):
that is a challenge Roland, That's a huge challenge.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
But here's the thing that again I'm going to use
what we did in no Member Don Scott. He hit
me up, he said, hey man, I saw how you
were covering the warnot O soft races in Georgia. I
want you to come in to We want to do
some stuff with you, and we want to hit five
cities in Virginia for them to reclaim the house. What

(42:00):
was interesting, You had some white folks in the party
who said, why are you spending these resources? You're doing
this and Don said let me And then they were like, well,
you know some of these events they had fifty seventy
five people. Don said, what you don't understand is I
wasn't concerned about how many people were sitting in the room.
He said, we know how many people were watching the streams.

(42:21):
We know how people were sharing the content. So we
had all these different candidates come on, every single one
in one of those stops. They were taking that video
and now servicing it social to their people in kicking
and get out Because Don said the election is going
to be one on the margins. He said, they got
phone calls and people saying, hey, sorry I couldn't attend,

(42:42):
but I was watching the stream live.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
He said, what ends up happening?

Speaker 1 (42:46):
They reclaimed the house because what I say to the even corporations,
and I'll say the campaigns with Larner said you gotta.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Talk beyond the room. Black also travels.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
So if you're covering an event in Virginia, if you're
covering an event in Ohio, you're covering an event in Milwaukee,
you're covering an event in Philadelphia, and you're now sharing
that information.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Guess what now? Black folks in Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
In Florida, in Houston, in Georgia are seeing that and
the content resonates. So you can't just think about that
room or that neighborhood of that city. You have to
be thinking about how the information is disseminated and received
broadly right.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
And we're at that point where we need to be
seeing things scale right and boom right. So whether it
is through our communication platforms or whether it is on
the doors, at this point, we should be scaling and
I think my worry is that we're not right now,
and so whether it is, you know, when we think
about the ways in which we're communicating to black voters,

(43:56):
that's important obviously trying to do the education that you
said at the top. How are we making sure that
people have the information that they need, And that's both
to be able to make an assessment about you know,
an informed choice right and having the information to be
able to do that is also about understanding how to
vote right. Like we know that things have changed laws
have changed, you know, in terms of the ways in

(44:20):
which people can vote or cannot vote, and so we
want to make sure the restrictions that exist, we want
to make sure that people are informed about that. We
need to be communicating all of that with people as
early as possible. We also need to be out knocking
on people's doors. At this point in twenty twenty, there
were you know, groups were right at the point where
they were able about ready to scale their program meeting.

Speaker 8 (44:42):
They were about to add on more.

Speaker 5 (44:43):
Canvassers, they're about take on geographies, and we're not there
right now. And so I worry about that because talking
to folks on their doors, you know, sort of creating
that momentum inside of communities and neighborhoods to say, yes,
we're paying attention, we're on top of this. We're taking
care of each other politically and around this election.

Speaker 8 (45:04):
That's important to our community.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
It's important for us to be engaged collectively in the
electoral process, and we have to have the mechanisms and.

Speaker 8 (45:12):
The resources to be able to do that.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
My concern is that we are going to get to
the scale portion too late.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
You know.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
I still think that we are you know, we're we're behind.
Certainly it is not terrible, but we really need to
be thinking about how we are moving faster and how
we are moving bigger over the next couple of months.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Grant.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Here is why what she just said is important, because
here's how the campaign and how these Democrats and progresses
are thinking.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Oh, well, if we.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Look at data, you know, for the most part, we're
about at the same point of support in twenty twenty
four we were in twenty twenty. Well, what I keep
saying to them is your twenty twenty playbook has to
get thrown out in twenty twenty four. You have to

(46:03):
factor in the reality of the heart and feelings regarding
Israel and gossip.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
You've got to factor in the fact that if you're
talking about voters, the electorate actually is younger, and so
your baby boomers passing away, and so now you have
to look at the hardcore numbers, what do you look
like eighteen to forty five, And so any polling data,
whether it's Black pat Black Women's Roundtable, Black Census Project,

(46:36):
shows you a decreasing likelihood of turning out and being
upset with the process, which means you have to then
do what reversed. You now have to, as I keep saying,
you have to spend more time and more money reaching
folks who are on the fence, who are sort of

(46:59):
tapped out.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I'm not buying this. I don't like Biden.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Because of his age. I don't like Trump because he's crazy.
So I'm just gonna sit this one out. But then
you gotta walk folks through what this actually means, which
is one of the reasons why we walk people through policy,
walk them through saying hey, don't think. Don't think those
two hundred federal judges, fifty eight of them are black,
don't matter because you see the rulings when it comes

(47:24):
to the Fearless Fund, when it comes to so many
other different issues. But you gotta explain that. And so
they are. And this is where these white and I
got no problem saying it, white democratic strategists refusing to
listen to black people, who know black people, who marginalize
black on media, who think, oh, we can just run

(47:48):
ads on Complex, run ads on Cumulus iHeart radio stations.
We can just put keep sitting our guests to MSNBC
and CNN, and then they're gonna get it. And I'm
sitting here saying, no, this is in any election that's
going to be on the margins, and so that two
five three two three five eight ten thousand vote, those

(48:12):
are gonna make the difference. But if they want to
be hard headed, you might be sitting in your ass
the day after the election going damn. We should have
listened to those black folks because they kind of knew
what they were talking about. New poll out Greg shows
Trumps up five points in Georgia. Warnock and os uff
ain't on the ballot in twenty twenty four as the

(48:32):
war in twenty twenty, So you don't have that intensity
on the ground there as well. And so folks better
pay attention. And if they don't, they gonna be sitting
here going damn. We should have done so the day
after the election like Hillary folks did in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 16 (48:51):
Yes sir, Yes, sir. And of course we'll be looking
like what the hell are we going to do? Because
when this white boy gets back in with his fashion,
it's gonna get real, real, real quick.

Speaker 15 (49:03):
No, Warner one up.

Speaker 16 (49:05):
And also for not on the ballot, but I tell
you who should be on the ballot, Anthony Johnson Jr.

Speaker 15 (49:10):
See there, these are the.

Speaker 16 (49:11):
Moments when we don't know what's going to be the
match that will set everything on fire. Nobody knew Caitlyn
Clark was until they invented a team of villains, black
villains called LSU and Jill. Biden, with that same thinking,
wants to invite both teams to the White House, and
Caitlyn Clark was like, Na, the winner should go. Well,

(49:33):
of course, Kaitlyn Clark grew up so real because it's
a race war in the w NBA. Let's just call
it what it is. And so what happens The Democratic
Party puts ads on the National Championship Game last a
couple of a couple of weeks ago. Why am I
bringing that up the context of what we're talking about here.
People need to know the data and thank you, sister
Stripeshire for this work that you all are doing. People

(49:55):
need to know it needs to be repeated till the
penetrates penetrates. But that's not what we're talking about in
the world now. We're talking about people who are really
like not just low information but and not just distracted,
but really just completely disengaged. And while that will put
a din in it we're talking about margins, as you said,
and these people were interested.

Speaker 15 (50:12):
In pop culture.

Speaker 16 (50:13):
We just had a man who has made his money
off pathology, Curtis Jackson walking through the halls of Congress,
standing up, smiling with his open enemies, the fool and
who was in trail ben cropping half the damn CBC.
Why because celebrity is where the eyeballs go now while
the media needs to get together, the black media, and
god knows you got too much on your plate rolling,

(50:35):
but the idea of a black media summit, now, maybe
where people get together and try to say what are
the soft targets we can deal with. I'm thinking it's
gonna be the convention at at the end of the summer,
looking at how to get some of these celebrities involved
and just tell them what to say and Sam before
we get a few more ice cubes and fifty cents
running around here. Yeah, they gave Tim Scott fourteen million
dollars and he said in the relief thank you substripture

(50:57):
for bringing it up. I'm not trying to grow the
tent of the publican party. I'm trying to shave off
some of these black votes. And remember the RNC back
in March closed all their minority outreach things and then
and there make the Republican Party white again, which they've
already succeeded in doing. But I'm saying all that to
say this, our voters in the United States of America

(51:21):
are highly distracted. The data needs to be put out.
The stuff needs to be put out, I mean the
idea for example. That's why I say that Anthony Johnson,
give me on the ballot if you want some of
these white boys like this punk ass sheriff and way
more in Tarank Callity, whose son if you go back
and look at it, his son been arrested several times
for assault and public drunkenness and decent exposure.

Speaker 15 (51:42):
He didn't die in the damn jail.

Speaker 16 (51:44):
If you want him out, then you're gonna need a
justice department that you voted for to go in. Maybe
we can retire Mery Garland as a price for participating
in this and put Kristen Clark in Hiss Detorney General
in the second term. But none of that works if
you donna bring your ass out to vote. George Floyd
was the trigger in twenty twenty when this video comes out,
Anthony Johnson could be the trigger in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 15 (52:05):
We just don't know.

Speaker 16 (52:06):
But at the heart of that lies black media, and unfortunately,
we're gonna have to make some appeals that bring in
some of these people who may not know a damn thing.
But damn it, anytime fifty cent that a matter of
old scholar who used to say, we went from the supremes,
the miracles, to four tops to fifty cent as you
tell you, the trajectory of stupidity in this country and

(52:28):
stupidity head of color. But anytime he walk in Congress,
don't care how many as much money he got and
talk crazy and said, people line up behind Trump because
he's a felon. Damn it, that's what we're facing. And
no amount of explaining people through policy is going to
change that absent combining that with getting some of this
broad based information out in a way that's catchy, hits hard,

(52:50):
and consistent. And he can never, as I said, never
anticipate the X factors. But we gotta be nimble and
seize the times it comes, because we're gonna be the
ones taking the l They'll shake their heads and we'll
be what's the hell now we are? In harms way
in a way that you have never helped us with Adrian.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
You you you said something again when I was we
were talking about in terms of how you must flood
the zone.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
And oftentimes when we talk about the money that's out there,
I'm always explaining to people, uh, that you don't just
look at sort of the you know, your traditional folks
in terms of campaigns and things along those lines. You
got to look at the billions that are being out
there as well. And so you may already be you

(53:36):
may have already had some of these conversations. I'm just
gonna go ahead and put it out. I dare say, Uh,
the environmental packs, what is your what is your specific
black plan?

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (53:49):
The League of Conservation Voters, the Sierra Club, UH, Sustainable
Energy and Environmental Coalition, in our DC Action Fund, on
and on and on, Reproductive Fights, pat Planned Parenthood, Nay Rail,
all of those folks, American Bridge, you shall talk about,
America Votes, Democracy Alliance, Democracy, Spring, Free Press, Action, these

(54:12):
you are talking about Justice Democrats. You can go on
and on and on with a lot of these groups.
Again very specific, what is your black plan? How are
you investing these resources? Because a targeted black plan. It

(54:32):
has to be there if you look at the sevenths,
if you look at the seven states from a national perspective.
Obviously they're talking about Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada, Arizona.
But you also have to expand that because if you're
trying to regain the House, Okay, what are those critical

(54:55):
New York congressional races, what are you also looking at
in terms of gooblatorial race Josh Stein in North Carolina
against Mark Robinson? Also, what are the state house races there?
Because you need to claw back Republicans having a supermajority
in North Carolina. Okay, what is happening on the ground

(55:16):
in Tennessee?

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Same thing.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
There are states where you may not be able to
win the House or the Senate, but you can remove
them from having a supermajority, which now forces them to
have to deal with the other side. Then you talk
about the Ohio race, Senda Sharett Brown, there's his black plan.
Tim Ryan was awful reaching black folks in Ohio, And
so what are you doing in Dayton, Columbus, Cincinnati, Cleveland?

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Hey, share it Brown?

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Are you doing anything at the Cincinnati Music Festival, one
of the largest black events in the state every single year.
I asked him the direct question we met with the
senators in the Black Media roundtable a month or so ago.
Didn't get a direct answer, And again, so people don't
understan saying there are billions of dollars being spent beyond

(56:03):
the parties from the so called progressive groups, but they
largely are talking to white folks, and so they also
have to be called out and directly challenge, saying, where's
your black plan and who are you funding that's on
the ground with black on media?

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Are you funding now not in October?

Speaker 8 (56:25):
I think that's right. I mean part of the challenge
I think that many groups would say right now that.

Speaker 5 (56:31):
We're all experiencing is this sense that everyone is kind
of in a holding pattern. That it's clear that there's
money out there, but it is also clear that that
money is not moving. And so when I talked about
the need for people to start scaling right now, groups
can't scale without the money, and.

Speaker 8 (56:47):
So there is this sense of people sort of being in.

Speaker 5 (56:49):
A holding pattern and waiting, and it's not totally clear
to me what folks are waiting for.

Speaker 8 (56:54):
I mean, many of the groups that you talked about.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
One of the things that we also understand is that
this is all hands on deck type of situation to
stop fascism.

Speaker 8 (57:03):
In America, right, and so all of those groups are important.
They need to be talking.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
To the constituencies that they are best equipped to be
speaking to. Some of those groups are in fact long
term partners of Black groups. LCV, for example, is a
long term partner of Black Pact. They understand very clearly
the role and the importance of the black vote. They
also understand the role and importance of black people and
being involved in the environmental justice movie movement.

Speaker 8 (57:26):
So some of them get it and have in our
long term partners.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
But there is the sense that people are sort of
sitting on their hands right now. To your point, there's
definitely resources out there that could be moved. It's not
clear what it's going to take. You know, how many
polls do we succeee right before that that floodgate gets
opened up. And I think that we're getting to the point,
as everyone has said here.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Now that we're.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
Getting to the point where you know, the window was
closing and that and the resources need to start flowing
and we need to shore up our base constituencies immediately,
and I think that that is part of the challenge
that the folks are are facing right now. Some of
it feels like it's beginning to move. Some of it
feels like things there's solutions being asked inside the campaign

(58:15):
and among many of the groups that organizations that you
just mentioned, there's questions being asked.

Speaker 8 (58:19):
And some new thought about how resources need to start moving.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
And so I'm hopeful the groups will start to get
what they need on the ground.

Speaker 8 (58:28):
But there's no reason why.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
At this point folks are still trying to figure out,
you know, where money is coming from, if there is money,
and that that some folks seem to be sitting on their.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Hands, well lush, and this is this should be a
code read.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
I don't care who you are.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
If anybody is sitting here going, oh no, we're comfortable
where we are right now, you are utterly delusional, y'all
are out there on the ground. I spend lots of
time away from DC, and is not just in Los
Angeles when I'm in here, Houston, when I'm in Atlanta,
when I'm in places in North Carolina, when I'm giving
speeches all across the country.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
I'm actually talking to.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Grassroots organizations, I'm talking to activists.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
I'm hearing from folk what they're talking about.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
And there's a reality that's happening out there that is
clearly not being seen in Delaware, that's not being seen
in DC. And these folks better recognized because again you
have significant intensity on the right. They're pissed off because
Trump was found guilty in New York. You got on
the left, you got people who are again concerned about

(59:37):
Biden's age, some still clamoring for another candidate. And I
keep saying, wake the hell up, that ain't gonna happen.
This race is set. It is gonna be unless something
happens from a health standpoint to either one. This is
going to be a race between Trump and whoever he
pixes his VP and Biden in Harris. And you better

(59:58):
understand the Senate hangs in the ballance, the House hangs
in the balance, Project twenty twenty five, the evil that
they want to launch there is sitting there in front
of us. And we have got to demand the funding
of our sources because I think, and just correct me
if I'm wrong. You want the show discussing y'all poll.

(01:00:19):
I think Joanne Reid had you on. Did any other
mainstream organization have y'all about y'all pole? No, But we
keep seeing these damn the New York Times seeing a
poll being quoted every other poll talking about black folks,
and they have not talked to any of the black
folks who have done black specific polling. And so that

(01:00:42):
narrative is now being set by these networks, and that's
only a sliver of black people, which is why our
platforms are even more important.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
Yes, that's exactly right, That's exactly right. I think there
is there's a way in which we talked about this before.
The narrative that is being that is being set about
black folks, and in part it is up as the
scapegoat for if things go sideways, and part of it
is trying to essentially say that that we are, you know,

(01:01:15):
going to join with a party that has demonstrated that
it is willing to be aligned with white supremacists.

Speaker 8 (01:01:23):
That it is willing to you know, not just you know, uh.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
In whisper tones, right, but in very loud tones, be
yelling out of the fascist sort of ideas. We hear
Donald Trump every time he stands in front.

Speaker 8 (01:01:40):
Of a rally. We know what that rhetoric is.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
We know what it means, and we not just what
it means for the country, but we know specifically what
it means for us. And so the idea that black
people would align ourselves with that is just outrageous and
it's offensive and it's insulting.

Speaker 8 (01:01:55):
But that seems to.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
Be where in many ways the mainstream media wants the
conversation to be. It's certainly where the Republican Party wants
it to be, and so there's some weird alliance there
that that is mind boggling. But we will tell our
own story, right. We we know what is in our
own interests. We both act and vote in our own interests.
And so again, our ability to be able to reach

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Speaker 8 (01:02:22):
To make sure we have the information that we need.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
To make an informed choice, and to show up in
the numbers that are going to be required to make
sure that democracy lives to see another day in this country.

Speaker 8 (01:02:33):
Because democracy matters for black people. It is it is
important to us and our as we strive.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
You know, for all of the things that that our
ancestors for us, we require a political system that allows
us to be able to do that, and we're not
going to just let that go just because there was,
you know, a news broadcast and some pundits who said that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
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We appreciate it.

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All Right, folks, gotta go to the break.

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Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
The Bido administration buckled to a major campaign from big
Tobacco when it comes to banning menthol cigarettes, and Michigan
activists are fighting for a band in Detroit. In April,
the administration again postponed the band without a timeline for
a foul decision on the band. Black America's doubt disproportionately
from heart attacks, lung cancer, strokes, and other tobacco related illnesses.

(01:07:47):
Johnny right now from Detroit is me New Jones, the
CEO of Making Account CDC. Glad to have you here.
So what's happening in Detroit? What are y'all doing?

Speaker 22 (01:07:55):
When it comes to menho, we are fiveing to say
Black Lives will protect at Martin. As you know this,
African Americans are disproportionately impacted by death and disease related
to tobacco use. And we, you know, must protect our
kids and save black lives. I grew up in the

(01:08:16):
house with two smokers who smoked glueport cigarettes.

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
I lost my dad in November.

Speaker 22 (01:08:21):
Of twenty twenty two, and so we are really fighting
to have a historic bill package passed and a legislature
because Michigan is a state where we have preemption, so
we can't.

Speaker 6 (01:08:35):
Do it at the local level. We tried to do
it in.

Speaker 22 (01:08:38):
Detroit, where we're considered a tobacco swamp, swamp by the
Aspire Center, you know, and you think about that on
the backdrop of Detroit being a food desert, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:08:49):
So we're fighting.

Speaker 22 (01:08:51):
And hoping that we get a hearing on this bill
package next week.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
So you're trying to actually so you can't do it locally,
so you have to get it past by the state.

Speaker 6 (01:09:00):
We have to get us passed by the state.

Speaker 22 (01:09:02):
We tried to do it at the local level, and
we're you know, hit with that preemption piece that, by
the way, passed. It was slipped into our law thirty
years ago on Christmas Eve at four am. So you know,
tobacco industry continues to be up to their tricks and

(01:09:23):
our lives are at stake. So we can't wait on
federal legislation. We have to act, you know, in localities
where there isn't preemption, and where there is preemption, you know,
we need to be repelling it so that we're unchained.

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
Right we are, We're coming.

Speaker 22 (01:09:42):
Up on June teenth and talking about emancipation and freedom.
But for black folks living in the inner city, we're
still chained to menthol and tobacco products. It's killing us
at disproportionate rates. We lose forty five thousand Black lives,
seventy two thousand African Americans are diagnosed with the tobacco

(01:10:06):
related cancer each year, and and it's costing taxpayers money.
I mean, our healthcare costs are over five billion dollars
because of tobacco related illness in Michigan.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
So what has been the response from Democratic leaders they
controlled the state, the House of City, and the governor's manager.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
What are they saying?

Speaker 22 (01:10:25):
Yeah, you know, I will say that we have some
real fighters on this bill package. Stephanie Chang's sushink.

Speaker 6 (01:10:36):
They're real fighters.

Speaker 22 (01:10:37):
So we have a trifecta as you know in Michigan
right now. But they have such a heavy load to
undo the damage that has been done you know, for
decades now that it's been hard for us to get
a hearing. So it's extremely important to me that you know,
I'm able to do this interview with you today, and

(01:11:00):
you know, just continue to urge people to contact the legislature,
contact your representative. We'll have we'll be at the capitol
on the thirteenth to do some you know, some lobbying
and education, and then we'll have a press conference on

(01:11:21):
the nineteenth. But we have some some real strong black
men stepping up.

Speaker 6 (01:11:26):
At the local level.

Speaker 22 (01:11:28):
We've been able to shut down five vague shops in
the last two months for selling illegal products to minors,
you know, So I think that on the national level,
it's something that communities need to start looking into. If
you don't have tobacco retailer licensing. We don't have that
in Michigan either. We're one of nine states in the

(01:11:52):
country without tobacco retailer licensing. You know, start advocating and
fighting for that because there's a lot of legal activity
going on in those who could invade shops because they
aren't really being regulated in the way that.

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
They should be.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
All right, then well, let's stly keep us updated on
the progress.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
There in Michigan. Thank you so much, Rolin, I appreciate it.
Thanks a bunch, all right, folks.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
A racient's study found that social media is playing a
significant role in distributing misinformation for the black community. A
public opinion poll commissioned by Free Press, BSP Research and
the African American Research Collaborative survey three thousand people and
found that Black and Latino folks are more likely to
access news on platforms like Facebook and YouTube then they're

(01:12:39):
white and Asian American counterparts. The survey shows that black
adults are significantly more likely to encounter false information online.
The survey also revealed that only one in four Americans
feels very informed about local elections.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
We've talked a lot about this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Reci and we other polling shows that they're getting misinformation
from TikTok and Instagram, which means you have to counter
that with information. If you don't, then all of a sudden,
you're going to be screwed up. Looks like I think
it is. Recy's screen frozen. Listen to said, let me

(01:13:17):
go to Greg first and I'll come back to RACI
and Greg.

Speaker 16 (01:13:19):
Go ahead, Yeah, yeah, of course, you know It's interesting
we see this all over the world. We're seeing all
kind of misinformation. I was watching the South African elections
pretty closely over the weekend and just watching the comments
and social media. You can see how the rumors get started,

(01:13:39):
how the information is spread. The biggest democracy in the world, India,
just voted, and you saw how they're MODI the prime minister.
You know, this close on a razor's edge now whether
he'll be prime minister because while he went in all confident,
the mass of people, millions of people showed up and voted,
and his part of it lost their numerical majority. Was

(01:14:02):
it that do misinformation? This is a global phenomenon. All
this stuff faced onk you know China right now. In China,
they are trying to restrict social media and ban certain
platforms from being able to.

Speaker 15 (01:14:16):
Be used in.

Speaker 16 (01:14:17):
China because they are concerned about of course, people say
they're trying to suppress their electorate. Sure, they're trying to
manage their population, just like the United States is too
a little bit differently, but they're also concerned about misinformation.
The guy who's going to jail now, Steve Bannon. You know,
it's so funny. I don't run into a whole lot
of black folks when I go to bookstores around in
the DMV. But I tell you who I run into

(01:14:37):
on a couple of occasions in places I don't never see.
No Steve Bannon, Steve Banner is constantly in this intellectual.

Speaker 15 (01:14:44):
War, and it isn't just based on the United States.

Speaker 16 (01:14:46):
It's based globally, and misinformation is a serious quill in
their pen. I think it's very important for us to
understand that when you got fools like this dumb dumb
Tim Scott running around or Byron Donald, it doesn't matter
whether it's it's true. All that matters is that it's
being blasted at you from every rooftop, and that is
we are in a war of misinformation.

Speaker 15 (01:15:08):
And you're right.

Speaker 16 (01:15:09):
We can counter it with data, we can counter it
with correct information, but we have to be very very
careful not to be trying to get into some back
and forth with somebody who's in.

Speaker 15 (01:15:19):
Straight total lot.

Speaker 16 (01:15:20):
You got to call them a liar and take the
gloves off at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
The thing here, Lauren, it is about again, how do
you counter how do you deal.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
With real information? Again?

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
You were talking about the curry, your newsroom. And this
is where I said, you got these progressive billionaires, white
folks who are funding these efforts. You got the white
conservatives who are funding it. The white conservative billionaires figure
this out long before the progressive folks. That is, you
know what, I'm not wasting my time with mainstream media.
I'm not trying to convince the MSNBC, the New York Times,

(01:15:52):
Washington Post. They've always been labeled liberal, liberal, liberal, but
they've also been white. And so I know from our
vantage point from African Americans, and here's what that we
understand what it looks like. And see Lauren, here's what
also happens. And when re see, we get her signal straight.
She's gonna talk about this here. It's amazing to me
how many prominent black people I see posting clips from

(01:16:17):
mainstream media, and I'm like, damn, we discussed that two
three weeks earlier on Roland Martin Unfiltered, and it kills
them to actually post a clip from this show talking
about the stuff. And then all of a sudden, it
garners all these different views, garners thousands upon thousands of views.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
And you heard what I asked Adrian Shropshire.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Other than joy and read show, how many other folks
book y'all on y'all pack?

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
None?

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
So again they're they're controlling the information and so the
reason So when I'm talking about, okay, access to capital
to be able to build and grow, Oh, I have
I have a plan. I have a very clear plan
on how we can have ten to fifteen people in
different cities across the country covering things happening there and

(01:17:04):
streaming it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
But you got to have the resources.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
And this right here, this misinformation effort is a direct
result of significant funding to spread the misinformation to get
black people saying stupid shit like fifty cent did yesterday saying, oh,
black men are responding to Trump because they got rico
charges too. Sorry, fifty we all don't have no see

(01:17:32):
I'm about to I'm about to see. I was about
I was about to go I was about to straight
ass go off. But that's the bullshit I'm talking about.
When that is thrown out and then the right goal
see see black men down with Trump because they all
criminals too. Yeah, what's up with lawrens? Audio lar I

(01:17:56):
could barely hear you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Y'all figured it out and to go to reci Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:18:03):
I mean, listen, I've been sounded this alarm for years
upon years upon years, and I've still yet to see
it taken seriously, at least when it comes to investing
in black dollars.

Speaker 8 (01:18:14):
I mean, there are a.

Speaker 21 (01:18:14):
Lot more white people, analysts and thinks of that nature
that you do here talking about it, but that money
ain't coming to us. And so I think that what
the Democratic Party is still lacking is a recognition that
there's a credibility gap in our community between you know,
the people that are getting to them first, the people
that are getting to them more often, more frequently, that

(01:18:35):
are better invested in, and the people who actually know
what the hell they're talking about. Okay, I mean the
DNC is coming up in August. What kind of outreach
have any of these you laid out a number of packs.
There are so many organizations. What kind of outreach have
they done to black owned media or somebody like myself.
I'm on serious XM Urban View, which reaches three million
black listeners or listeners of all backgrounds, and my colleagues

(01:18:57):
we were talking about going down there and somebody was like,
as though we were paying for ourselves and I'm like, hell, no,
I'm not going down at for free. And that's the problem.
We are expected to do the heavy lifting that other
people are getting paid millions to do. We're supposed to
do it for free. We're supposed to do it out
of the love of community, which we do obviously because
we have no other choice but to do it. But

(01:19:19):
it's unfair and we can only go so far without
the investment that the other side is consistently doing and
putting money in, and so we are always at a disadvantage,
no matter how pure our intentions are, no matter how
diligent and relentless we are rolling. Your show covers these
issues daily, covers it better than any ad can, better

(01:19:41):
than any TikToker can, and yet you still need the investment.

Speaker 8 (01:19:47):
And so they have to wake up.

Speaker 21 (01:19:49):
This is a dollars and cents thing, not just the
common sense and information thing. Until they recognize that we're
going to be at a disadvantage. And unfortunately, the disadvantage
that we have people with credibility who can move the
needle but don't have the investment is going to be
detrimental to our community at large.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Lauren.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
It is about again, you have to be in a
constant battle on TikTok and Instagram, you have to be
flooding the zone with real information. You can't do that
if you don't have people, you don't have resources. Laura,
you are mute. Lauren checked to see if you are

(01:20:30):
on mute on your end. All right, Uh uh, I
think something is up with your microphone. Not quite sure
what's going on. All right, so y'all let me know
what we'll get. We'll get we'll get that figured out,
what's going on because we literally cannot hear you at all, Lauren.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
H But do this here, y'all.

Speaker 21 (01:20:51):
One more thing, because I just want to be clear.
And that's what people don't seem to understand is the
there's nothing organic about out the way that means and
disinformation is spreading, and there's a distinction between disinformation and misinformation.
Disinformation is deliberate propaganda, spreading of information that you know
to be false. Misinformation is just oops, my bad, and

(01:21:13):
I don't know what I was talking about. There's nothing
organic around it. It is supported by algorithms. It is
supported by strategic bot farms troll farms. It is supported
by the fact that it is profitable to traffic and
these kinds of things that get the people going. And
so that's where I am emphasizing the importance of investing,

(01:21:35):
because this is not just a coincidence. There is very
much a concerted effort with money behind it to get
people to think negatively so that they can be dissuaded
and disengaged and stay home.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
All right, we.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Figured out what's going on with Lawrens audio. All right,
So all right, so y'all, let me know where it
gets all figured out. Let me go here for the
commers and buyer. Donalds is still trying to defend his
Jim Crow comments. So he was ticked off when Congressman
how King Jeffries ripped him in The Biden campaign posted
a twenty six second video twenty six second video of

(01:22:12):
him having this conversation as being interviewed by Michelle te
Foya about Black's Republican Party. I don't know why in
the hell they talking to her because she ain't Black,
and so she's absolutely been a hardcore magat since leaving
the sidelines, and so Byron, so I'm gonna read the
tweet he posted this. You're gonna love this here because

(01:22:33):
like Derek Johnson, the NAACP criticized him and so many others.
He tweeted this, Joe Biden, Representative Jeffries, Jamie Harrison, Derek
WCP are gas lighting Black America. I was talking about
black families, conservative mindsets and conservative voting receipts are a
beautiful thing. And don't clip my words to keep lying.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
I'm watching.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
Okay, Byron, you watch Rollard Martin Unfiltered on Blackstar Network.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
We're gonna play your comments.

Speaker 9 (01:23:02):
Go.

Speaker 20 (01:23:04):
I grew up with my mom, my dad, and my
mom things that don't work out. As an adult, I
look at my father and I say, bro, I don't
know what happened.

Speaker 6 (01:23:15):
Were you my father?

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
And I love this.

Speaker 6 (01:23:17):
Wow, I don't know what happened. I wasn't there, But
I'm gonna tell you this.

Speaker 20 (01:23:22):
Coming growing up, the one thing I knew I wanted
to do, and.

Speaker 6 (01:23:26):
This is not about my father.

Speaker 20 (01:23:28):
This is about what I wanted to do is I
wanted to be a father to myself. And so one
of the things that's actually happening in our culture, what
you're now starting to see in our politics is the
reinvigoration of black families with younger black men and black women,

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and that is also helping to breathe the revival of
a black middle class in America. You see during Jim Crow.
During Jim Crow, the black family was together. During Jim Crow,
more black people were not just conservative, because black people
always a bit conservative minded, but more black people voted conservative.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Lea and then H. G. W.

Speaker 6 (01:24:18):
Lyndon Johnson and then.

Speaker 15 (01:24:20):
You go down that road and now we are.

Speaker 6 (01:24:21):
Where we are.

Speaker 20 (01:24:22):
What's happened in America the last ten years? And I
say it because it's my contemporaries as Wesley's contemporaries. You're
starting to see more Black people be married in homes
raising kids.

Speaker 6 (01:24:36):
Is when you home with your wife raising your kids,
and man, you look at the world. You're saying that,
wait a minute, time out.

Speaker 20 (01:24:43):
This does not look like how can I get something
to my kids. It goes back to the conversation of
generational wealth, not just having a job, generational wealth.

Speaker 6 (01:24:52):
I'm looking at my kids.

Speaker 20 (01:24:53):
How canell my kids be on my shoulders when they
take off in life.

Speaker 6 (01:24:58):
That's what's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
So mm.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
So Byron Donald's Oh, we're seeing a resurgence, a reinvigoration. Okay,
I'm gonna get to that in a second. Let me
first deal with that. First of all, why are you
invoking Jim Crow. Now, if you wanted to say in

(01:25:44):
the nineteen thirties, forties, fifties, and sixties it was this,
you could have said that you invoked Jim Crow. You,
Byron Donalds, gave the impression you implied, So therefore we

(01:26:05):
inferred that you were saying things were better for the
black family during Jim Crow.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
That's on it your ass. Now, you can't sit.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Here and get pissed off at people because of your
choice of words. That's on you, main on us. You
didn't have to invoke Jim Crow. And what you then
try to imply is that, oh, things for the black
family were stronger doing Jim Crow, but then when these

(01:26:42):
liberals came in with these laws that ended Jim Crow,
things got worse. That's literally what you were implying. You
can't sit here and try to dance around it because
that might work for the mother people, but that don't
work for me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
That's what you did, Byron Donalds. So that's on you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
But then Byron Donalds went on to talk about, oh,
we're seeing the reinvigoration.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Marriage and children. Okay, as you go my iPad.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
United States Census Bureau marriage prevalence for Black adults varies
by state. District of Columbia had the lowest percentage of
married Black adults twenty fifteen twenty nineteen. In this article
written by Chanelle Washington Lakita Walker, it said US marriage

(01:27:51):
rates have been on the decline since the latter half
of the twentieth century, and both men and women are
married at a later age, but the decline and delay
are even more dramatic among Black adults. The median age
at first marriage has risen for both men and women.
In nineteen seventy, the median age at first marriage was
twenty three point two years for men twenty point eight

(01:28:12):
years for women. Fifty years later, those figures climbed to
thirty point five years in twenty eight point eight one years, respectively.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
Although there have.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
Been drastic changes in marriage patterns for all race and
Hispanic origin groups, differences have been especially pronounced for non
Hispanic Black adults. Nineteen seventy, thirty five point six percent
of Black men and twenty seven point seven percent of
Black women were never married, but by twenty twenty these

(01:28:43):
percentages had jumped to fifty one point four percent for
black men and forty seven point five percent for Black women.
While the percentage of all adults who were never married
increased by seven point six percentage points for men and
seven point n nine percentage points for women, the corresponding

(01:29:03):
change for Black adults was more than double that, at
fifteen point eight percent for men in nineteen point eight
percent for women. Similarly, the median age at first marriage
for Black adults increased more dramatically than it did for
the overall population. So Byron Donald's you just lied. You've

(01:29:27):
no that in the back of what you said. What
you just said is literally a lie. This is in
twenty twenty two, now, unless that was just some dramatic
shift in the last two years, like we just had
just this influence of COVID marriages. What you're saying is line. Now,

(01:29:48):
I am not anti marriage. My parents this month we
married fifty seven years, made twenty plus, my brother, my sister,
and a husban numbers of the numbers. But what the
Byron Donalds don't want to confront, even when he's talking

(01:30:08):
about Black Foster and Jim Crow, is the economics. Byron
Donalds also by mentioning hw Lennon Baines Johnson. See this
is a familiar narrative from conservatives. Conservatives have offered this
whole deal that, oh, the reason the black family has

(01:30:30):
been destroyed is because the government funded black women and said,
you can make more money if the man is not
in the household than if he is.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Oh, they forgot that was really for white women.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
What the conservatives and Byron Donald's never want to talk
about is that that funding was because they were seeing
an increase in women having children and not having resources
to be able to provide for them. They have created

(01:31:17):
the narrative that the law was specifically passed for black women.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
President President Lyndon Baines Johnson literally launched his war on
poverty in Appalachia, in West Virginia. He didn't launch it
in the Mississippi Delta. He didn't launch it in the
black belt in Alabama. He launt that talking to broke, illiterally, illiterately, illiterate,

(01:31:54):
can't actcess healthcare. White folks, they don't want to talk
about that. You never want to hear them say, oh,
he launched it in Appalatia, which by the way, is
hardcore conservative today. They still illiterate, still broke, still got
jacktive healthcare. Those are facts. What the Byron Donald's of

(01:32:20):
the world don't want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
Is that black people, since you're referencing Jim Crow.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
Were being denied economic mobility, be denied jobs. See it's
real easy to sit here and say, oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
See it's these liberal policies. That's what.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
People not getting married, people not having kids. First of all, y'all,
can we please stop tripping Marriage at the outset was
a business. It wasn't about no love. It was about property.
And if you were a woman, the negotiations took place.

(01:33:11):
Negotiation took place between your daddy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
And that man's.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
Daddy, you are property. It was an economic arrangement. And
what we are seeing or folks making economic decisions as
it relates to marriage.

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
So, Byron Donald's, you could.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
Sit here and you could be all mad, but you
program Jim Crow. You opened that door. And the moment
you opened the door by mentioning Jim Crow and how
black families were together and we had kids and we
loved each other, then you can't ignore the other stuff
that was happening outside that home.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
Doing Jim Crow.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
And That is why you're getting jacked up up, and
that is why you don't want to be honest about
welfare in America. That wasn't about black folks. We couldn't
access it when FDR put that in place. That was
about white women. We talk about free lunch programs. Oh,
I'm sorry, that wasn't about us. That was because skinny

(01:34:21):
white boys could not be being malnourished. And the federal
government established eating standards in this country because they said
it's a national security issue that we can't recruit folks
to serve in the military because they're too skinny.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
Look it up Byron Donald's.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Then be clear, all of the policies that were passed
in America through the New Deal, through Truman, through Eisenhower,
and even LBJ that was not for black people. Now, yes,
the poverty rate was critical. Clay Kane actually posted about that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
Again.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
This is one of those comments that you're never gonna
see people like Byron Daniels, Byron Byron Donalds want to
talk about. This is what Clay posted for Byron Donalds
to imply that the black family was stronger under Jim Crow
is a Jim Crow lie. In nineteen fifty nine, the
black poverty rate was fifty five point one percent. Jim
Crow was held not a golden era, which is why

(01:35:27):
black people, regardless if they were Democratic Republican, fought to
end it. This is the poverty rate right here for
black individuals. You see right here, y'all. It was in
nineteen fifty nine, a high, a fifty five point one percent.
Then you then begin to see the poverty rates drop
and now it's it was seventeen point one percent twenty
twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
Why is that?

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
This was because one, black folks were being able to
access Corporate America and other jobs, and then we were
actually beyond menial jobs. Also because you had government assistance
programs were specifically dealing with the issue of poverty. Byron Daniels,
what are you, Byron Donalds? What are you voting for
when it comes to poverty? What are you voting for?

(01:36:12):
Are you opposing student loan debt relief? Because guess what?
Byron Donald's, one of the reasons why a lot of
young folks right now are postponing marriage is because they
have massive student loan debt. You take a woman with
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a student loan debt. Oh, Byron,
By the way, black people have a much, far, high,
much higher rated student loan debt than white people.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
So if you got a black woman.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
With a one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in student
loan debt, you got a brother with one hundred thousand
oars student loan debt. You got two people with a
quarter of a million in student loan debt. Oh, I'm sorry,
your party hates student loan debt relief. So now we have,
of course attacks on a fearless fund affirm faction then
wiped out in colleges. Y'all, your same conservatives want to

(01:36:55):
get rid of all the programs in corporate America that
actually help black folks in up in a limited way.
But then you want to talk about liberal poverty programs
that ran the black man out the family. I'm sorry,
aren't you in the same party that got upset when

(01:37:18):
people were getting increase amounts of money during COVID for unemployment.
I recall a certain Senater, Lindsey Graham, complaining that people
were making more money off unemployment insurance than when then
they were on jobs. So South Carolina was one of
the first states to actually slash unemployment benefits.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Oh guess what.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
South Carolina also lacked behind everybody else in recovery from
COVID because fewer people had money. So we're all y'all
to understand when the people like Byron Donald's loves talking
about black folks in the black family and economics, you
then need to go to the next level and say,

(01:37:56):
but what is your voting pattern on economics as it
relates to individuals and families? Byron Donalds, Toby ask you
a question. Did you want to get rid of the
child Task Credit? Did you want to get rid of
assistance to folks who aid them out of these programs? Ooh,

(01:38:20):
I would love to get his response to that. Folks,
when folks like Byron Donald's run their mouths.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
Just listen.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
And when you have to still be explaining three days
after the fact what you said, that means, Yo, ask
what clear? So you can't blame everybody else, that's on you, Lauren.

Speaker 11 (01:38:55):
Byron Donalds does not have any expertise in any of
the subject matter. He surely cannot speak for forty million
over forty million people in the country.

Speaker 6 (01:39:04):
He has no idea what he's talking about, So This is.

Speaker 11 (01:39:06):
Kind of an interesting proposition to be analyzing really anything
that he says. And part of the missinfo disinfo campaign
from the Republican Party is to find black people who
will say dumb things like this and put it out
there so that they can then reference these dumb things.
And so he's teamed up with Tim Scott and Mark

(01:39:27):
Robinson and all the rest to say these things about
Black America and of course leaving out things like the
war on drugs, the school of Prison pipeline, the disproportionate incarceration,
the sort of effort.

Speaker 6 (01:39:42):
In this country to be.

Speaker 11 (01:39:45):
Extremely unjust when it comes to black men and really
taking them out of communities in one way or the other.
And when you give people felonies, you take away their ability.

Speaker 8 (01:39:54):
To earn a living.

Speaker 11 (01:39:56):
I mean, that is a huge issue that no one
talks about, even Democrats really talk about about that. So
while everybody is so, you know, wanting to talk about
these issues, I'm not sure again you're right.

Speaker 15 (01:40:07):
I don't know why you brought up.

Speaker 11 (01:40:08):
Jim Crow, but I just think he has absolutely no
idea what he's talking about. So it kind of is
very hard to analyze somebody that has no idea what
they're talking about. But it just sort of fits in
line with the usual thing of wanting to blame black
people for their for the things that this country historically
has put upon them. That's always there, that's always their
go to. You know, they never refer to any of

(01:40:31):
the history behind any of the subjugation.

Speaker 8 (01:40:33):
It has gone on for four hundred years in this country.

Speaker 11 (01:40:35):
That's why they got all mad at the sixteen nineteen
project bringing those facts up. That's why they're trying to
change the teaching of history, and that's why miss info
and info on these subjects is on the rise. That's
why they're really trying to create a sort of parallel
education system to ignore a lot of these facts. Because
it can never be the United States, it can never

(01:40:57):
be the history of the United States. It has to
be the indivis who are in fact in a minority,
who have been the victim for over three centuries of
systematic policy often built into the law. And Donald's is
not worth paying that much attention to when it comes
to that. I mean, these things are much bigger than him,

(01:41:18):
and he just has no idea what he's talking about.

Speaker 8 (01:41:23):
Preci Byron Donald's is full of shit.

Speaker 21 (01:41:29):
He's a propagandist, he's a foot soldier of white supremacy
and the White Nationalist Party. For him to sit up
there and act like we're all too fucking stupid to
understand what he meant by Jim Crow, specifically invoking the
term Jim Crow as being a time an era where
the black family was together shit in poverty. That ain't

(01:41:52):
something we want to return to. But the tale is
in his tweets. After that, he says in one of
his tweets his most recent tweets, lbj's Great Society was
destructive to black.

Speaker 8 (01:42:03):
Families in America a lot.

Speaker 21 (01:42:07):
We need economic policy to help all Americans thrive.

Speaker 8 (01:42:11):
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 21 (01:42:12):
For him to say that and refer to lbj as
Great Society as destructive in the same week where MAGA
judges have used and weaponized the eighteen sixty six Civil
Rights Act against a black woman venture capital fund that
only provided twenty thousand dollars to the zero point two percent,

(01:42:36):
making up zero point two percent of the funding that
black women receive, to say that we need an economic policy,
to say that, he's somehow for that, in the same
week that that was that this decision came out and
he's spoken nothing about that. No outrage is ridiculous and
it's gaslighting. What he is doing is deliberately sowing disinformation

(01:42:58):
about the effectiveness of the programs that the Republicans want
to undo. They want to do the reconstruction era civil
rights movement, they want to re undo the civil rights
movement of the nineteen sixties because they don't want us
to have jack shit. So if they can put a
black man who is nice and you know, go tee
whatever his fucking cigar, his brandy or cognac, whatever he

(01:43:21):
was doing, maybe it was fifty cents cognac, and sit
up there and tell people that the policies that actually
led to drastically cutting black poverty down from fifty five
percent seventeen percent is still too high. That led to
increased healthcare. Medicare was a big push for that. Mind you,
a lot of these Republicans are the ones still refusing

(01:43:41):
to expand Medicaid as it was under Obamacare. It's just disgusting,
despicable behavior. We're not stupid Byron Donalds. We see right
through you. Unfortunately for us, though, he's picked a good
time to be a propagandist him and Tim Scott and
all these other black Republican grifters.

Speaker 8 (01:43:58):
Because people are bey on.

Speaker 21 (01:44:00):
Low information voters, they are very susceptible to this kind
of disinformation. And while they're doing that, the Edward Blooms
and the Republicans are marching right along undoing all of
the games that have been made because of programs like
The Great Society. So don't sit up there and patronize
us and try to act like you're the victim. And
to the mainstream media that continues to platform him under

(01:44:21):
the guise of having a discussion and trying to challenge
h but what you're doing is you're allowing him to
perpetuate this disinformation. Y'all need to think twice about this shit, too.

Speaker 16 (01:44:30):
Greg Yeah, I agree with everything that's been said. You know,
Byron Donald's has benefited from the policies pushed by the
very party that he is attacking now when he was
down there at FAM And I know that all the
ratlers out there are relieved that Byron Donald's transferred to

(01:44:51):
Florida State from Florida and him so that they don't
have to claim his funky ass. But you know, whether
it be the checkcase, that theft case back in two thousand,
or the marijuana possession case, you know, the kind of
things that almost tripped him up as a young man.
But the state of Florida, perhaps less conservative than it
is now, had diversion, diversion programs in place so that

(01:45:13):
he could actually, unlike his master, his lord and master
Donald Trump, who's now a convicted fellow in camp, vote
in the state of Florida. But you know, by Donald's
had a path forward, you know, as interesting in Roland.

Speaker 15 (01:45:24):
You of course just walked.

Speaker 16 (01:45:26):
Us beautifully through the history of Lyndon Johnson's War on poverty,
which kicked off, of course, in nineteen sixty four. That
was the same year of a Supreme Court case McLaughlin
versus Florida. They had a law on the books in
Florida that said that a white man and a black woman,
or a black man and a white woman could not
cohabitate if they were not married, and at the time

(01:45:48):
Florida was one of seventeen states that banned in a
racial marriage. Of course, the Supreme Court said that was
a violation of the Fourteenth Amendment, and as you say,
recent that civil rights active eighteen sixty six, which presage
is the Fourteenth Amendment that now, because of the color
blindness of the white nationalists in the federal bench, another
reason to vote to prevent putting more of them on,
including a couple on the Supreme Court. As you said, Roland,

(01:46:10):
you know, that's how they can you weaponize these laws
that were passed to do the exact opposite of what
the white nationals are doing with it now. But Miclaughlin
versus Florida said that, you know, the violated fourteenth Amendment,
so they struck that law down. Three short years later,
of course, you had Loving versus Virginia, which made interracial
marriage constitutional, said that you know, bands on an a

(01:46:33):
racial marriage in the seventeen states were unconstitutional, that had them.
And only bring this up as a prelude because eleven
years later Byron Donalds was born and when he got
married to his wife of twenty three years, this white woman,
Eric Donald's, he wouldn't have been able to sleep with
her and live in the same apartment when he transferred
to Florida State, which is where they met, had he

(01:46:54):
been living in the state, had he been alive in
young man time, nineteen year old from around Florida State
looking for a girlfriend. At least, Tim, did you get
that sand off your knee? What happened your girlfriend? I
saw you propose. Anyways, this he went be able to
sleep with her and live with her because it getting
been against the law. In fact, his marriage would be
against the law. I mean, I don't know why Byron

(01:47:16):
Donald's is talking about the black family, but I'll leave
that as a footnote. Finally, he's auditioning for vice president.
Of course they're all kissing that booty, you know, little
Marco and Byron and as you did so beautifully, Tim
Scott and so many others are auditioning. But the New

(01:47:36):
York Times had a couple of weeks ago on his wife.
This mom's for Liberty Board sitting getting ten percent of
her company's money from the state of Florida. Charter school
hustle Erica Donald's. Erica Donalds might be caping to be
the Secretary of Education in the second Trump administration. Byron's
gonna do, but you do do whatever the hell he

(01:47:56):
can to get his wife perhaps that job, and he
can get into social circles. Hey, you love who you want,
but damn, bruh, why you gotta bring up Jim Crow,
which by the way, I have my own opinions about
in terms of the black family. Let's be very clear,
I don't know we probably need to talk about the
nature of black cultural grounding and how it has changed
and hadn't changed over the art because I don't necessarily

(01:48:17):
get into that. But Barron, you don't want to go
back to the days of Jim Crow. You are Clarence
Thomas because you couldn't have the woman of your dreams
if well, anyway, I'll start with that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
So I told y'all in terms of how again you
see the line, the massive line that's going on, and
we have refuted this nonsense over and over and over again.
But I want to show y'all again this is what
happens when Donald Trump lies and then folks like Senator
Tim Scott runs to Fox News and constantly he is

(01:48:53):
lying on CNN and MSNBC and fight doesn't GOSBC seeing
in the Fox News over and.

Speaker 2 (01:48:59):
Over and over again. I'm talking about massive lives.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
I'm about to play something, y'all, And if y'all want
to just hear sheer stupidity, just watch this.

Speaker 19 (01:49:12):
I funded the colleges and black colleges and universities. Nobody
else did that, nobody else even thought it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
And what I funded the.

Speaker 19 (01:49:22):
Colleges and black colleges and universities, nobody else did that,
nobody else even thought it. And what I funded the
colleges and black colleges and universities, nobody else did that,
nobody else even thought it.

Speaker 15 (01:49:37):
And what.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
Kim Brow put this tweet out, It's past time for
all HBCU supporters to push back on this narrative. HBCUs
have received federal funding since nineteen sixty six. This is
the graphic that Walter posted. This is Title three funding
from nineteen sixty six through nineteen ninety seven. Y'all, these

(01:50:04):
are the facts. Now, let me explain to y'all what
what what would you have going on here? The lie
that Donald Trump keeps promoting. First, it was a two
hundred and fifty It was a two hundred and fifty
million dollar program that first happened under President George W.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
Bush.

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):
It was continued under President Barack Obama. Actually it expired,
they actually reauthorized it. Now it's a two hundred and
fifty million dollar program. Now here's what's interesting, folks. Again,
people don't want to deal with. Only about ninety million
of that program goes to HBCUs.

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
It is called the Future Act.

Speaker 1 (01:50:45):
The addition of money goes to Hispanic serving institutions. Okay,
that's that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:50:53):
The Trump folks zolled the program out in their budget,
meaning they entered it. It was Congress when all my Adams,
Congressman Bobby Scott and Democrats who said no, no, no, no,
we're putting this back in fought for it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
When it went over to the Senate. They FEELIP busted it.

Speaker 11 (01:51:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:51:10):
Senator Lamar Alexander of Tennessee uh, and then represented al
Representative Adams, Representative Scott and others were pressing them when
the HBCU presidents had their.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
Meetings here in d C. And when he brought them
to the White House.

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
Remember the whole photo they all standing behind him and
Kelly in Conway with her little country ass, you know,
shoes off, knees, all in in the in in the
Oval office couch on her phone. They said, we need,
we need to push this particular bill. Then he goes, oh,

(01:51:47):
oh a win, oh a win, oh a win. So
uh oh yeah, let me let me get in let
me get involved in this. And so what he then
did was he then tried to claim that he was
the one who came.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
Up with it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
It wouldn't have happened without him. So I don't know
what we are to do, y'all, Anthony, go to my iPad,
y'all see this right here? Hr five three sixty three.
Who the sponsor is right here? Committees House, Education and Labor.
Who's the chair that's so committed?

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
Congress? And Bobby Scott, y'all, that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:52:27):
Donald Trump is lying, Tim Scott is lying, and anybody
else who's out here talking about, OHI Trump was a
savor of black people. And you notice they never ever
give a number.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
Donald Trump has done more funded this, Tim Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:52:44):
Don't Trump funded blood Coloders more than anybody else. And
you never hear Margaret Brennan. You don't even hear Abby Phillips.
You don't hear any of these people saying, sinner, can
you give me the number? Can you tell me how
much HBCUs received in funding under the Trump administration. You

(01:53:05):
never hear them ask that question because they're not well
versed on these topics.

Speaker 11 (01:53:09):
Well, there's there's a weird sort of agreement too, of
just not wanting to counter these people or have sort
of this sort of both sides thing that it's going
on where the media, instead of protecting the truth, lets
these people say this stuff over and over again because.

Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
They don't know Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
Let's be real clear, Lauren, they don't know Jack about
HBCUs they don't even the black people on mainstream television
they don't.

Speaker 11 (01:53:36):
But really, also on top of that, I mean, remember
when everybody means it up notts four or five years
ago over whether or not we should use the word liar,
when it came to oh yeah, I remember, ire should
we use the word liar? That entire ridiculous conversation, And
what they were doing was getting on national television and
repeating lies over and over again, knowing that that would

(01:53:58):
platform it, knowing that about city seventy percent of the
audience was going to believe it until finally.

Speaker 6 (01:54:05):
The media started to wake up.

Speaker 11 (01:54:06):
But yeah, to your point, they don't know anything about
HBCU funding.

Speaker 6 (01:54:09):
So that's the other problem.

Speaker 11 (01:54:11):
You know, it's but it's amazing to me the extent
to which straight up lying gets routinely platformed on national TV.
It happens all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:54:23):
These folks, they're lying, and you got and here's the
this is where misinformation comes in. You got negroes running
around left and right, Greg trying to trying coming back
at me on social media repeating the lie because Donald
Trump repeated the lie and made it sound like he

(01:54:43):
was the savior of HBCUs sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:54:47):
But this is also why wait, go ahead and comme
on that.

Speaker 16 (01:54:50):
Greg, No, no, no, I mean all I was gonna say,
thank you, Roland, is that you know they have figured
out the strategy. The question you asked a few minutes
ago is the question how do we counter it. It's
got to be a multi prong strategy. And you know, Recie,
thank you again for distinguishing between this and misinformation. Trump

(01:55:12):
has figured it out. Let's just take our hat off
to them. It doesn't matter whether it happened. You just
have to to fool said a couple of days ago.
He never said lock her up. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:55:24):
The Roots Picnic was this past weekend in Philly, and
back in February, when Sexy Red was added to the
lineup for the Roots Picnic, Questlove defended it said, you know,
we want to have diversity. People listening to Sexy Red
just like they're listening to fifty cent, just like they
listening to other people stupidly Lil Wayne and them coming around,
you know, talking crazy sexy you know sexy Red.

Speaker 15 (01:55:46):
Oh yeah, man, Trump was giving out them. Check.

Speaker 16 (01:55:49):
The challenge is how do you counter foolishness? How do
you counter lies? You countered them with facts, you counted
them with doing what you're doing right now, what we're
doing right here. But you also counter it by creating
a narrative that is very clear and that not only
says we have a clear choice coming up in this
upcoming election, but that there we should.

Speaker 15 (01:56:10):
I really think this.

Speaker 16 (01:56:12):
We need to start narrating this not only in terms
of the right and left and Democrats, Republicans and fascism
and good versus evil. I mean, you know, black folk
gonna go spend their money on a Tyler Perry movie,
gonna watch every possible iteration of fifty cents, pathology, stuff
on stars and all this kind of stuff. You know,

(01:56:34):
and people generally like good guys and bad guys. You
can't counter a straight liar who will look you in
the face and say anything.

Speaker 15 (01:56:44):
It's just like when we were children.

Speaker 16 (01:56:45):
Somebody breaks something and one sibling come in and say
I didn't do it. The other sibling says, I got evidence.
But if you get into too big of a back
and forth with the one who's telling a bold face live,
both of y'all take an l. At some point you
got to decide that this is a bright line. And
when you have the courage of your convictions, you were
not gonna stop them from lying. But you can back

(01:57:07):
people up off of you with the simple fact that no,
we gotta do I mean, you know it's done here,
but it ain't gonna It's not just a matter of fact.
He knows he lying, he knows he's lying. He doesn't
he understands. It's effective though, because most people ain't gonna
check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:57:22):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
In fact again, racy here is lying, Tim Scott.

Speaker 2 (01:57:28):
This is a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
This ain't even all that's your opinion. No, this right
here is Senator Tim Scott lying on Fox News.

Speaker 20 (01:57:36):
Listen, who's the president who brought the most money in
for historically black colleges and universities?

Speaker 15 (01:57:42):
Donald Trump?

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
Straight ass lie?

Speaker 1 (01:57:47):
Just I mean does like like straight straight lie? And
I'm gonna watch this here, Uh, listen to this here.
This is another conversation on Fox News.

Speaker 23 (01:57:58):
I think the Biden team needs to make a positive
case for what they're doing investment in HBCUs. He just
had a bunch of them to the White House, of
their leaders recently, a lot of employment opportunities for black Americans.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
They have a.

Speaker 23 (01:58:10):
Positive story to tell. I also think they do need
to draw the contact trust with Trump. The way he
talked about Black Lives Matter, the Central Park five, those
are real things Donald Trump has said. There's a story
out today about Trump's very real Now.

Speaker 1 (01:58:22):
So here's the thing that again that folk got to
pay attention to, gotta understand. And this is also what
happens when you step on your own message. It was
a couple of weeks ago, Recie, when the Biden White
House announced at the beginning on a Thursday, sixteen billion HBCUs.

Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
Well, guess what.

Speaker 1 (01:58:45):
The next day the Department of Justice came out reclassification
of marijuana. They were more posts on the Biden Harris
social media page is about the reclassication of marijuana than
the sixteen billion. I then went to and remember we
had Cameron Tremble, who used to work at the White
House in the digital operation on the show, and he

(01:59:06):
was talking about oh, he said, oh, he said, I'm
sure the information is on all of the HBCU Instagram pages.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
I pulled them up. It wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:59:15):
It wasn't because I immediately checked. It wasn't on washed
the yard, it wasn't on all of them. And again,
this is a perfect example of how not only the
Biden Harris administration but also their campaign absolutely screws it up.
Because here, and here's what I've never seen. I've literally

(01:59:38):
never seen the Biden Harris campaign pull the research and say,
HBCU's got this in the four years of Trump, let's
say four billion dollars Biden Harris sixteen billion. Contrast it
don't deleit. The life stands though. No, you gave them this,

(02:00:00):
We gave him this. You tried to get rid of
the program that you claim, and this is actually how
we saved it. I'm like, damn, if you gonna fight,
damn it, fight right.

Speaker 21 (02:00:13):
Well, here's the thing too, In addition to inadequately taking
credit for the things that are happening under this administration,
they concede too much ground to Trump in terms of
what he actually did. Here's a headline March twenty two,
twenty eighteen, from News One Secure the Bag, Kamala Harris helps.

Speaker 8 (02:00:33):
Get millions for HBCUs.

Speaker 21 (02:00:35):
A funny increase was included and the Senate's omnibus spending bill.
This was something that I talked about so many times
as an advocate for Kamala Harris. It was a fourteen
percent increase in the Senate omnibus.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
Be clear.

Speaker 21 (02:00:48):
I know we talk a lot about what Congressman Alma
Atoms did, but Vice President Kamala Harrison, Senator Kamala Harris,
and Jim Scott was her colleague, he would know this
was in the Senate securing a funding for HBCUs as well.
I remember during COVID where she secured five million dollars
for Howard they have a hospital in the medical school,

(02:01:09):
and she got into a micro ribe because he was like,
why I'd get it five million dollars And so she
did so much work and Democrats, remember there was a
time under the Trump administration where the Democrats had the House.
They don't do enough to counter the fact that a
lot of the things that Trump wants to take credit
for were actually spearheaded and a result of the Democratic

(02:01:30):
majority in the House and through advocacy and actions that
were done through senators, and so they have a winning
story to tell under the Biden Harris administration, sixteen billion
dollars for HBCUs. It's not even including the things that
they did around HBCU safety grants. They're constantly bringing in
HBCU presidents, the Divine Nine presidents, and all these other
black organizations. And then it's crickets about it. I mean,

(02:01:54):
you can't just post a picture on your Instagram or
on your Twitter and.

Speaker 8 (02:01:58):
Then leave it alone.

Speaker 21 (02:01:59):
They let these stories become a one hour, two hour
story as opposed to being incorporated into their greater disciplined
messaging strategy. And so that's where they continue to fall short.
And unfortunately the other side is very smart. Trump he
had the Trump Platinum Plan, which was bullshit, but he

(02:02:20):
knew how to message it. He'll say, HBCUs. He don't
give a damn by HBCUs, but they know how to
message it well. In fact, in fact.

Speaker 1 (02:02:28):
In fact, this person somebody named Andre Johnson, who is
a professional communications also is an author. He put this
tweet up. He said, the reason why folks think Trump
gave more money to HBCUs was because of this photo.
The photo speaks volume. So what is the moral of
the story. And so here you go. So this is

(02:02:49):
what he did. It was stagecraft. What he did was
brought him to the Oval office. Look at all the
folks sitting here. Not everybody sitting here, you know, skinning
and grinning in this photo. But that's the whole deal, yo,
Jose you brought them all in the Oval Office and
gave the impression, oh, I just love y'all when he

(02:03:11):
was really trying to slit their throatsto congresswoman and all
my Adams Congress and Bobby Scott said, no, we do
not let that happen.

Speaker 15 (02:03:19):
Well, you saw the photograph.

Speaker 1 (02:03:20):
Hold hold on, Greg then Racy, then Lauren go.

Speaker 16 (02:03:23):
It is just very quickly you saw the photograph there
you saw who was standing right there to our left
his right, and that was of course the president of
Tennessee State who has been deposed by the white nationalist legislature.
There and they flipped the board. That's President Glinda Baskin Glover.
She is not a Trump supporter. She's behind the cotton curtain,
the president United States cause. And I just want to

(02:03:45):
wrap this up with my little comment and I got
your way raze with going back to where you started
tonight's show with a federal intervention, calling for a federal
intervention in the row white nationalist state of Texas. The
same thing happens with her education right now in Mississippi.
They're gonna go after several HBCUs again. Valley is under
the threat. They're gonna keep digging at Jackson State a

(02:04:09):
second and a second term. What we need to hear
from Biden Harris is not only what they've accomplished, which
is very important, but what they're gonna do next. All
of the money.

Speaker 15 (02:04:19):
That is owed the hbcused, it's time to go to
court now.

Speaker 16 (02:04:23):
And it's time for you to put that in your
stump speeches when you travel through the South. It's time
the vice president can't do that. The President's gonna have
to green like that. Y'all need to get off defense
chasing these three tooths white voters and decide whether you
want to win this election or not. And that's gonna
require some debts that are gonna be paid forward when
you win in November. If you want people to come

(02:04:44):
out and one of those debts as it relates to
HBCUs is going after these white legislators who have made
a blood oh to destroy black colleges behind the cotton
curtain and agenda Neo Jim Crow South, including mister Donald's
almost alma mater.

Speaker 15 (02:04:57):
Fam.

Speaker 16 (02:04:58):
You we've got to be aggressive now on what you're
going to do going forward, tied to what you've already done.

Speaker 15 (02:05:04):
At least that's my opinion.

Speaker 2 (02:05:06):
Richie, Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 21 (02:05:08):
I completely agree with doctor Carr. You have to take credit,
but you have to contrast. I mean, look at what
Trump did. I did this, Nobody else did it before me,
nobody else thought about it until I did it. He's
always contrasting when he takes credit. Too often this administration
and their messaging, they don't contrast between what they've done
and what the other side is doing. Like to doctor
Carr's point said, when they're talking about the HBCU funding

(02:05:31):
and the support that they have, they need to be
contrasting to what the Republican governors are doing across the
states when it comes to HBCUs as well as to
these DEI departments that are being dismantled. I haven't heard
enough about outrage around that whole department's being shut down
in the state of Texas and in the state of Florida.

(02:05:51):
So until they really wrap their minds and their messaging
around the fact that you can't just put it in
the mean that's sixteen billion and big font. You have
to learn how to talk and message and contrast and
do that with a discipline, relentless manner. Not just you,
but your surrogates who are on TV, that are on
the radio, that are on the role minin filters, et cetera.

Speaker 8 (02:06:14):
If you value them enough to send.

Speaker 21 (02:06:15):
Them here, then you're going to continue to be losing
to a very simple message, Donald Trump did all this
stuff for black people when it isn't even true, Lauren.

Speaker 11 (02:06:26):
So I think that to get back to the photo
that you put up their role and I was actually
there that day in the old office when that happened,
and it's kind of like what just happened to fifty
cent yesterday. You know, he comes in there with a
substantive issue and it's all blown away because he takes
a picture with Lauren Bobert, you know, and that is
generally what happens in this media.

Speaker 1 (02:06:47):
Yeah, So, first of all, here's a photo this this
was the other angle. This was the Kelly Yann Conway
photo I was telling you about. And then it was
all imaging right there and go and to your point,
to your point about the fifty cent, we find that
because I actually I commented on this here, so he

(02:07:07):
decided he decided to post his his photo with with Bobert,
which and then he which I'm like, uh so, first
of all, again again to your point, here's a photo
of fifty cent all smiling Congress and Steve Scalize, Republican
Authority leader Louisiana.

Speaker 2 (02:07:28):
He puts boom, he puts that.

Speaker 1 (02:07:32):
Then then then here's the photo Lauren Bolbert, Colorado, Republican
making the White House look good.

Speaker 2 (02:07:40):
That's what.

Speaker 1 (02:07:42):
A posted about her. And then and then speak of
the House. Mike Johnson, my fellow Shreveport friend, said he
has happened to see me making things happen, creating lots
of jobs.

Speaker 11 (02:07:52):
Go ahead, Lauren, Yeah, So as you can see from
that photo array that you just put together, you know,
he met with a bunch of members Democrat and Republican. Right,
So you've got to be, of course sophisticated about what
is likely to happen when you are trying to advocate
for an issue, and you're black in this country, and

(02:08:12):
you meet with a bunch of Republicans who clearly don't
care about that issue. And I asked them at the
press conference, and Ben Crump answered, what exactly did you
guys talk about with the speaker when it came to
black economic empowerment? What exactly did the speaker have to
say about that?

Speaker 8 (02:08:30):
And I take it.

Speaker 11 (02:08:30):
From Ben's answer that the answer was pretty much nothing.

Speaker 6 (02:08:33):
Okay, So there's that issue.

Speaker 8 (02:08:36):
The other thing is it.

Speaker 11 (02:08:38):
Kind of makes me think something Recie said about, you know,
the way that the White House package is their information.
I mean, we do have to remember that we live
in an era where the media is completely changing into
something else. Their business model is failing, and their desperation
to get traffic and to get people pay attention, paying

(02:09:00):
attention is wrapped up in the fact that, you know,
they are giving us things that are not important because
they know that that drives traffic. So when the administration
puts out important information, the struggle becomes getting this version
of the media to actually broadcast it, which I think
is a really bad or a really big struggle that

(02:09:22):
is not necessarily their fault, even though yes, they could
do better, certainly with the short term information platforms like
TikTok and Instagram.

Speaker 15 (02:09:33):
I'm totally in agreement with that.

Speaker 11 (02:09:35):
But one of the things that I keep seeing with
this media, particularly these bigger platforms, The Post, the New
York Times, et cetera, they're not necessarily interested in anything
that doesn't drive traffic, and so there's a collision between
important information.

Speaker 8 (02:09:51):
And driving traffic.

Speaker 11 (02:09:52):
And when they become less interested in important information, then
the community is not served very well. No communit unity
has served very well, and that has become a massive,
massive problem, a massive problem that I don't know that
anybody has the answer to right now.

Speaker 2 (02:10:09):
Well, and here's the deal for anybody out there. This
is real simple. I love all y'all folks who run
y'all Miday.

Speaker 1 (02:10:17):
You said here on the plantation, you got your biscuits.

Speaker 2 (02:10:23):
We're setting facts. We're setting facts.

Speaker 1 (02:10:29):
Two hundred federal judges under Biden Harris, two hundred and
thirty seven under Trump Pence. Fifty eight of Biden Harris's
two hundred federal judges are black. Four percent of Trump's
federal judges we're black. More than twenty five percent Biden
Harris four percent for Trump. Facts Facts, that's what we're

(02:10:56):
going to do between now and November.

Speaker 2 (02:10:58):
And so when you have folks.

Speaker 1 (02:11:01):
Say stupid stuff, and what fifty cent said, it was
stupid about old black men supporting Trump because the Rico chargers,
that's stupid. It's bullshit. We're gonna sit here and then
all the people who are sitting here going oh oh, how, oh,
my goodness. The Trump White House, they were partnering black
people left and right, and they made the First Step

(02:11:24):
At reality fact, Democrats controlled the House. Congressman haw King, Jeffries,
Congwen Sheila Jackson Lee, Congressman Cedric Richmond. They were driving
that it passed the House. When he went to the Senate,
Republicans control. Guess what Senator Dick Durbin, Senator Kamala Harris,
even Senator Chuck Grassley said Bill ain't good enough, make

(02:11:46):
it better, then it was improved. That don't happen without
Democrats in the House and Democrats in the Senate.

Speaker 2 (02:11:52):
Those are facts.

Speaker 1 (02:11:53):
So if y'all want to give Trump credit for the
First Step Act because he signed it, that's like giving
Ronald Reagan credit for mk his birthday when he opposed
it the.

Speaker 2 (02:12:02):
Entire time, but he was forced to sign it. These
are facts.

Speaker 1 (02:12:08):
They're undeniable facts, and I need y'all out there, telling
your family members and telling your friends who keep believing
the bullshit. And even when it comes to student loan
debt facts, Republicans hate student loan debt relief. They don't
like the fact that five million Americans have seen one
hundred and sixty seven billion dollars in student loan debt relief.

Speaker 2 (02:12:29):
They don't like it. Those are facts, and so we
will have it.

Speaker 1 (02:12:36):
So we're gonna have a twenty twenty four conversation between
an eighty one year old Joe Biden and a seventy
seven year old Donald Trump about black people, then we're
going to have a conversation about facts. One Patterson practice
investigation in the Trump DOJ turn in General Sessions, a

(02:12:57):
turn gent On bar said, we're pulling back on investigating
police because they feel uncomfortable. Ten under Biden, Harris and
cops have actually.

Speaker 2 (02:13:11):
Been sent to prison for their actions. Facts.

Speaker 1 (02:13:16):
If we're gonna talk about black facts, we're gonna talk
about black facts.

Speaker 2 (02:13:22):
And let me be real clear.

Speaker 1 (02:13:23):
Senor Tim Scott and Congressman Byron Donald's and Congressman Burgess
Owens and Congressman John James and Congressman Wesley Hunt. If
any of y'all start lying about what Trump did for

(02:13:43):
black people, I'm gonna call you black asses out.

Speaker 2 (02:13:48):
Come on now.

Speaker 1 (02:13:50):
If you got a record to stand on, stand on
your shit, stand on your business, and if you actually
did it, I'm gonna give you credit.

Speaker 2 (02:14:01):
Say yes, that happened.

Speaker 1 (02:14:04):
But what you're not gonna do is a lot of
black people and step out with your black face as
the front man for the lies and not get called out.
I'm just letting y'all know right now that shit can
work with Fox News. Y'all can lie to Will Caine

(02:14:24):
because he ain't gonna he don't read like I do.
Y'all can lie to Campano and heck Seth, and y'all
can lie to kill Mead and other airhead Angeley Earn Hart.
You can lie to that child Harris Farker because she
don't know about none of this black stuff. She ain't
got no damn clue. Young can lot of all them?

(02:14:46):
You can lie of Shannon Bream, y'all can a lot
of this Abbey Field. Y'all can a lot of all.

Speaker 2 (02:14:50):
These people don't see any MSNBC. Y'all can lie all y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:14:53):
Want to, but I'm telling you right now your ass
is getting checked every day.

Speaker 2 (02:15:00):
That's a damn promise, y'all.

Speaker 16 (02:15:04):
Roland, please please say a word to our young people
and others who are looking to drink champs in the
breakfast club for their information. To fools like Kodak Black,
I would say that Donald Trump's a Gemini like me,
so I's with him.

Speaker 2 (02:15:19):
What I need.

Speaker 1 (02:15:22):
I need all voters, whether you are eighteen to eighty plus,
to understand when we see something reported, like in the
case of David Hilliard, they put this story oh the.

Speaker 2 (02:15:36):
Black Panthers supporting Trump's.

Speaker 1 (02:15:38):
His family immediately contacted us and with his grandson on
the show, we gonna fact check it all. And y'all
need to understand when I see if I see Envy
or Charlomagne, if I see Ebro, if I see Sway,
if I see if I see Aaron Burnette on seeing in,

(02:16:02):
if I see any if I see any of these
folks out there, who if I see somebody lying and
they put the stuff out and nobody got corrected, I
sent them a text here.

Speaker 2 (02:16:14):
The fact his was real. And so I need folks
out there, I need y'all to understand.

Speaker 1 (02:16:21):
I was listening. I popped in last night. My men
from Earning Your Leisure were having a conversation. There was
some stuff that was saying it wasn't factual. Guess what
my ass in the chat room on YouTube going that
ain't true, that ain't true, that ain't true. We don't
play propaganda here. We deal in facts here, and we

(02:16:43):
are going to call out anybody that spreads bs that lies.
And let me be real clear, anybody can get hit
if you say something that's wrong and you I don't
correct it. I'm telling you right now, I'm gonna hit you.

(02:17:05):
The philosophy is saying, if you do good, I'm gonna
talk about you. If you do bad, I'm gonna talk
about you. At the end of the day, I'm gonna
talk about you. And I ain't got no problem with
Donald's coming back on the show. Tim Scott could come
back on the show too, as my man.

Speaker 2 (02:17:22):
The late Chris Metsler, a black conservative.

Speaker 1 (02:17:24):
He always told his black conservative friends, Chris, why you
always go on his show?

Speaker 2 (02:17:29):
He don't treat you like he treat us, Chris said,
because y'all asked his lie. He said, rold don't cuss
me out because I.

Speaker 1 (02:17:39):
Don't go on his show lying. And that's what I
need y'all to understand. And so if y'all are watching
the rest of these people and they start lying, ain't
nobody correcting the lie, y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:17:51):
Should stop watching them.

Speaker 1 (02:17:53):
But were gonna be here with truth every single dad.
It does not matter, Uh, Lauren, Uh, recy Greg, I
appreciate that, y'all. I'm gonna talk about the Steve Harvey
golf tournament tomorrow with that particular video. Some other stories
we didn't get to as well because we added some stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:18:11):
So this is how we're gonna roll y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:18:13):
By the way, did y'all see Recye, Greg and Lauren?
Did y'all see Dave Rubin post this?

Speaker 2 (02:18:19):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:18:20):
It was last week he posted some video challenging.

Speaker 2 (02:18:26):
Let me find this real quick.

Speaker 1 (02:18:28):
Last week he posted some video and he was, you know,
he was like, you know, all in you know, he
was feeling himself and he was talking about, uh, yeah,
if anybody wants to come on my show uh and
dispute what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:18:49):
And then he said, I will only.

Speaker 1 (02:18:51):
Debate somebody, uh with the following a big following? Well, well, Dave,
I got four million, so you ain't gonna find that
many other people, Uh Dave with a bigger following than me?

Speaker 2 (02:19:06):
Uh and uh so, and.

Speaker 1 (02:19:08):
Then my followers jumped, I said, I raised my hand,
just like when that punk ass Brandon Tatum, ya I
debate anybody on George Floyd.

Speaker 2 (02:19:17):
I went, I was like Bernie Matt.

Speaker 1 (02:19:21):
I was jumping at punk ass never called So, Uh,
Dave Ruben, where you at?

Speaker 2 (02:19:28):
Where? Yet you said you will only debate somebody with
a following? Okay, Dave, where you at?

Speaker 1 (02:19:36):
I go on your show, but we're gonna simulcast it
because guess what. Don't think for a second, then it's
gonna be live.

Speaker 2 (02:19:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:19:44):
But I just wanna let y'all know I ain't scared
of none of these people. Y'all need to understand. There's
a reason why Fox News don't call me.

Speaker 2 (02:19:53):
Uh. There's a reason why.

Speaker 1 (02:19:54):
Hell even some of these progressive folks don't want to
call because they don't want to handle that a heat.
I'm telling y'all right now, the way you deal with
these right wing craze The Rain mag of people, is
you ignore what Michelle Obama said, You bust, they ass
your bust.

Speaker 2 (02:20:13):
Stay ass.

Speaker 1 (02:20:13):
Every single time they lie your bust, they ass. They
keep lying your bust, they ass again and need to
be on a T shirt.

Speaker 2 (02:20:24):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (02:20:26):
When you lie, we're gonna beat that ass. That's what
I'm telling y'all. That's the only way because to all y'all,
I'm telling you the amount of lying is going to
quadruple between now and November. Absolutely, and we got to
swing on them as every chance we can. Somebody in

(02:20:47):
the somebody in the chat goes, y'all leave Michelle alone.
Now she said, when they go low, we go high.
Hell no, when they gonna low, we go lower, we go.
Matter of fact, I just want y'all to want y'all
to all know, ask any wrestler, how do you win

(02:21:09):
when you wrestling?

Speaker 2 (02:21:12):
You gain leverage when you go lower.

Speaker 1 (02:21:18):
You ain't never seen somebody win wrestling fighting with the shoulders.
When you get the ass by the thighs and the waist,
then you can take them down.

Speaker 2 (02:21:29):
Some of y'all gonna get that by tomorrow morning. All right.

Speaker 1 (02:21:33):
I appreciate it, folks. Thanks a bunch. I'll see y'all later.
We're gonna keep doing what we do. Folks, don't forget
support us in what we do. Y'all know how we roll.

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We're gonna bring the funk every single day. Uh. Don't
don't matter who you are, we gonna hit you.

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Uh.

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we had like eighty three. We should be at one
hundred thousand downloads. Easy download an Apple phone, Android phone,
Apple TV, Android TV, Roku, Amazon Fire TV, Xbox one,
Samsung Smart TV.

Speaker 2 (02:22:24):
We should have.

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Speaker 1 (02:22:32):
Version on audible. All right, folks, I got to go.
I'm gonna see you all tomorrow. Y'all know how we
do it.

Speaker 2 (02:22:40):
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Speaker 15 (02:22:44):
A real revolution there right now.

Speaker 2 (02:22:46):
Thank you for me in the voice of black apparance
moment we have. Now we have to keep this going.

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You ain't be black on media and be scared.

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