Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton show.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
We are live in.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Milwaukee for what feels like it will be an incredibly
historic week. We are going to have constant guests coming by.
You never know who's going to be here. We appreciate
all of you. But Buck, let's dive right into it.
Major news for those of you have not heard, Eileen
Cannon has dismissed the South Florida classified documents case.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
We will get into that.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Reports that Trump will announce his vice president tonight on
the first night of the RNC convention here. But what
everybody is talking about is Trump's surviving the assassination attempt
in Pennsylvania and doing it in the most badass way imaginable.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
I cannot believe what we all saw on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I was already I'm very excited to vote for Donald
Trump come November, but now my love, affection, and commitment
to the Trump candidacy has gone to a different level. Buck,
I bet the same is true for you and every
single person who is out there listening to us right now.

(01:20):
And maybe if you were a middle of the road person,
maybe you didn't necessarily buy into Trump. I bet even
those people are now all coming together. You couldn't have
scripted this from a Hollywood perspective because people would have said,
there's no way somebody could react that courageously to an
assassination attempt. The fist in the air, the American flag

(01:42):
buildoing in the background. It is I think the most
iconic thing that I've ever seen a president do in
my life.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's astonishing, Clay to be here right now at the
RNC because of the mix of emotions that I think
everyone feels right now. On the one hand, I go
back to those initial moments on Saturday when and you
and I spoke right as this was breaking Saturday afternoon.

(02:09):
There was about a three or four minute period because
I was just seeing things.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I was at the gym.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
You know, people are living their lives, seeing things unfold
in real time, and I thought, oh my god, we've
lost President Trump. That actually crossed my mind for about
You called me almost immediately, yes, and I said, I
just I hadn't had a feeling like that since watching
as one of the one of the planes went into

(02:37):
the towers. The second plane went in. I saw that
in real time in nine to eleven. That was the
same level of oh, dear God, where is the country going?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
And then again.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Following it piece by piece the videos. I wasn't watching
the feed right, so I was just seeing the media
coverage and the clips as it came out in real
time to see Donald Trump raise his fist and America
to fight in the midst of now what we know
was an assassination attempt that was a literal inch from

(03:09):
taking President Trump's life.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
That it is a near miracle. Perhaps it is just
a miracle.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
I leave that to each individual to determine for themselves.
It was so close to one of the worst tragedies
we have suffered as a country in memory, and for
Trump to take that moment, turn around and show strength,
show that he's a warrior, it still feels surreal. There's

(03:38):
still this sense of processing what happened there. And you know,
there's a lot we can talk about today as well,
about the massive security lapse. I mean, I know you
and I are both dealing with the breaking news over
the weekends. People have heard some of our sense of this.
I was on Megan Show, you were on Fox or
and Martha's show talking about these things and astonishing lapse
of security, one for which I would hope there will

(04:02):
be consequences, but I'm very doubtful. There's still a lot
of questions that have that haven't been even attempted to
be answered. But here we stand to bring it all
back full circle. We here at the RNC, and it
just feels like President Trump is in not just the
strongest position ever to win an election, which he clearly

(04:22):
is by sentiment and by the numbers, it feels like
President Trump, and we're already hearing about this, is going
to transcend even what he has been able to accomplish
politically in the past and give a speech about true
American greatness and uniting the country here at the RNC
that I think will be heard by far more and
I mean heard, internalized, and believed by far more than

(04:46):
just those who are the MAGA faithful, if you will,
That's what I see happening.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I think Trump's response to this has been far more
generous and far more welcoming than mine, because in the
immediate aftermath of this attempt on his life, my primary
emotion was furious anger because this all people who listen

(05:12):
I said it, they needed to triple his Secret Service detail.
It was also inevitably predictable to me that with a
dementia adult president, with Trump having the lead, with Biden collapsing,
that they were going to try to take Trump out.
And so when I saw this happen, my immediate reaction was,

(05:34):
of course, and then to your point, to allow a
twenty year old to climb onto the friggin roof of
a white building and get within one hundred and twenty
yards of the president and take multiple shots at him.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
By the grace of.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
God, he's still alive, but that dad is dead and
there are two severely injured people because of a comple
all systems failure. Were lucky Trump's alive, but we certainly
have lost a life.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
This should have never been able to happen.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Well, that's why the security lapse is even more unforgivable.
And again this brings me to that the mixed emotions.
There's the honestly the elation. It's a little bit like
uh in terms of the way we're reacting to the news.
Remember when when Sully yeah hid the plane, land of
the plane and and people just couldn't believe it, and

(06:29):
then there was the processing afterwards of one hundred something
people could have died, right then and there, I think
because also of Trump's bravado and courage. In the moment,
we're still thinking about an assassin's bullet pierced the presidential
nominee for the Republican Party and former president and likely
future president's ear on stage on national TV, and we

(06:56):
were close to a political future and inches again, literal
inches from a political future that we do not even
want to consider as a nation. So I think, Clay,
there's tremendous anger, and there should be. There's tremendous rage.
There's outrage at the security lapse, and then there's also
this feeling of the near miss that the nation had,

(07:18):
and Trump, I think is elevating to this magnanimous position
at least when it comes to the outreach to the
American people overall, you're gonna hear by the way, Joe Biden,
and I do not say this just as a consistent
partisan here, I truly believe in my core missed a
massive moment. Joe Biden, the president of the United States.

(07:40):
When someone takes a literal shot at your opponent and
you go on national TV, you express the warmth and
solidarity of not just somebody else in the political arena
facing that kind of political violence. But another American, Yeah,
another dad, another father, a husband who almost lost his

(08:02):
life to political terror, to this this maniac trying to
take him out. So I mean, we're we're gonna unpack
all of this today. There was so much over the weekend.
The fact that we're not even yet diving into the
dismissal of one of the indictments against Trump, which just
happened today. I mean, we'll get into it, but that's
even a secondary story to where we are right now,

(08:23):
which is it feels like Donald Trump is about to
tell us what the pathway forward is. I mean, and
that's not usually what you get at an R and C.
Usually you expect it's going to be, you know, the platform.
And this is bigger than a normal Republican or Democrat
national convention. This feels like some kind of a national

(08:44):
American reckoning that is going on here this week.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
When he walks out into the arena tonight, potentially certainly
on Thursday, I think it's going to be one of
the most electric receptions for a president of the United
States in the history of our lives. And to me,
the fact that we have arrived here where even left

(09:09):
wingers who are dyed in the wall anti Trump people
saw the way he responded to this assassination attempt, and
they thought to themselves, I guarantee you, even though many
of them may not publicly admit it, they thought, I'm
proud to be an American based on the bravery and curse.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Think about that buck, to.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Have an inch from dying, and for your first thought
to be to sell your secret Service agents. Wait, wait, wait,
and then to turn to the crowd, pump your fist
and say fight, fight fight.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
I mean I get goosebumps right now.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
You can see it on my arms just thinking about it,
because it is so incredibly iconic. I mean, I think
that moment where the Secret Service agents are around him
has an Iwajima like feel. Already, it's on the cover
of Time magazine. I think it's the most iconic photo
that has been taken of an American president in my life.
And I think it's stirring a lot of people to

(10:07):
re examine their preconceived perceptions of Trump if they were
negative and saying, why did I think this?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
This guy is making me.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Recalibrate everything that I thought about him.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
And Biden doesn't have the skill. I told you, we
talked about this.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
If he was actually a uniter in any way, he
had a golden opportunity to do two things, one that
would actually benefit him and to it would be the
right thing for the country. He should have dismissed and
pardoned every single charge against Trump.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
The federal ones, for sure, yes, and called for a
dropping of the lawfair that has obviously been used against him,
and actually politically and morally was the right decision. He
didn't do it, and he also then would have been
in quite a position later on. We all know he's
going to commuter pardon his son Hunter after his looming
additional prosecutions as well. There's a moment here where the

(11:00):
fact that the Democrats and this is being this has
been reported near time CNN axios. You know, all the
usual Democrat outlets are whispering behind closed doors, maybe saying
out loud more and more, this election is over. That's Democrats, Yes,
after what just happened to don Trump. Now, I want
to be very clear, because I know we're going to

(11:21):
get a lot of reminders from all of you. We're
not saying it's over. We don't trust that the Democrats
are going to be on the up and up in
a whole range of ways. We're here at the RNC,
We're going to be talking to people who are looking
at the state ballot collection and voting integrity measures. We'll
be talking to people who are trying to get out
the vote. We understand we run this race until we

(11:44):
hit the tape, full stop, no question about it. Trump
certainly knows that, we believe he's going to announce his
VP tonight. But there is something even beyond the normal
political melee at work here. There's something bigger for the country.
And the fact that you're hearing Democrats saying it's all
over just goes to show you they've been telling everybody

(12:07):
for seven years Donald Trump is a threat to Now
there's a there's a whole component we haven't even got
into yet.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
We will of the rhetoric Clay and how they.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Admit just the monstrous exaggerations about about Donald Trump. And
I know I'm gonna have some fun with this later,
but it really is true. It really is obvious that morning,
Joe and this that I swear to you, I turned
it on to watch it this morning.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
It was not on.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
It cannot be on because the whole show is a
propaganda loop for Trump arrangement syndrome, and the NBC News
brand was worried about what would be said on MSNBC
this morning.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
This is proof positive.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
This shows you beyond any doubt that they have been
inciting the audience against Trump for years and it's just
intellectually dishonest and destructive to the country and unsustainable. And
I think there's a reckoning of that for those who
are not completely brainwashed, I do think there has been
a reckoning.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Your boy morning Joe wasn't even allowed on camera this morning. Yes, yeah,
I know you texted me this morning. I was like,
I don't know Buck's going to be able to start
off his day. He's number one fan. We'll talk about
all that and more. Really, like we said, a sense
of I would say euphoria that is setting in among
many Republicans inside of Milwaukee, which has security the likes

(13:27):
of which we may have never seen before. By the way,
for those of you who are wondering what the scene
is like here, you have to go through a lot
of security to even be able to be sitting where
we are right now, and certainly that will be the
case in the arena later tonight as well.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Lots of big guests all week long. We are live.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
You can see us on videoclayanbuck dot com. Hello for
those of you who are VIPs, Lots of guests are
going to be here. It's going to be a heck
of a week. We appreciate all of you out there listening.
We had a good night last night, met a lot
of our listeners in the Milwaukee area where we're happy
to be the number one show in the entire city.
And we appreciate all those of you who are listening

(14:07):
on that station, either living in Wisconsin right now or
potentially in town for the convention going on as well
and streaming us and listening to us there. Look, I've
got some chad mode in front of me right now.
I'm holding it up for our VIPs out there. I
don't know that anyone's ever shown a higher level of
testosterone than Donald Trump reacting to somebody trying to shoot

(14:31):
him by standing up, pumping his fist and saying fight, fight, fight.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
So I don't think that Trump needs chad mode.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I don't think that Trump needs any additional testosterone. I
think he answered all the questions out there there are
a lot of Democrats who need a lot of testosterone.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Buck. Yeah.

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Speaker 2 (16:04):
So off now live from the r n C.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Clay and I are here in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and we'll
be joined by lots and lots of guests, power players
in the Republican Party all week long, so we're going
to get deep into the politics. We've got an expected
announcement tonight from Donald Trump of his VP. There's also
a lot of speculation about his speech and about the

(16:29):
way forward for the Republican Party. So that's all coming
up and we will be bringing that to you as
we said here, Plus we'll be joining various other shows
and live streaming and all kinds of things. Last hour,
we discussed just as an update, that one of the
federal cases against Donald Trump has been dismissed by the judge,
A big breaking news item that just broke today, but

(16:50):
still by far even as we sit here at the
r NC. What is I think most in the minds
of the American people. Clay is what we witness on
video over the weekend. I know people are overwhelmingly up
to date on the basics of what happened, but we
want to get into some of the details of where
the investigation stands now, who's in charge of it, and

(17:13):
also how the heck could this have happened. We had
President Trump in Pennsylvania over the weekend and he's at
an outdoor rally and a lone gunman gets on a
rooftop about four hundred feet away from the president, takes
multiple shots and is able to hit the President's ear

(17:39):
almost killed the President right there on national TV, which
would have created not only a political catastrophe beyond I
think anyone's ability to reckon for what the future of
this nation would be like. Also a great man, a father,
a husband, a hero to millions of Americans would have
been lost. So are blessed beyond words at the good fortune,

(18:04):
at the divine intervention. The many ways we can describe
what happened, but it's incredible that he's not just that
he survived, that he's fine, that he's fine, but there
were others they are unstable condition now, who were taken
to the hospital, and there was one individual who lost
his life who was killed by this gunman Clay the

(18:26):
Secret Service. And I said this right away on Saturday.
Megan Kelly was kind enough to have me on her
breaking coverage of this is a massive failure. They have
one real job, right. Yes, they can investigate counterfeiting, and
there's some other things that fall into their investigative authorities,

(18:47):
threats against the president, meaning online threats, things like that.
But their real job is to prevent an assassination of
President Trump. And here's where I have to this analysis.
If you had a civilian, I mean I had some
basic training from the CIA and a whole range of things.

(19:09):
But if you had a civilian in charge of that,
and I mean somebody with no law enforcement or military
training whatsoever, told you need to secure this site, they
would know, Yeah, you can't let people with guns or
weapons get near a principle in this case the individual
being protected. But they would have cleared that rooftop. Now
we find out that they didn't clear the rooftop, that

(19:33):
they knew the individual was there for a few minutes.
This is all on video, so you don't take our
words for it. This isn't just opinion, and he was
able to get off a few aimed shots at President
Trump on that stage. It was just divine intervention that
he wasn't hit. That is not a difficult shot in
terms of the distance at all. Anybody who has any

(19:55):
familiarity with shooting will tell you that. And Clay, I
think when you look at the Secret Service, the first
question that I turned and there's so much here. I know,
people have so many different angles on this. This is
the most obvious form of assassination attempt that I think
they could have possibly been faced with. My God, imagine
if some actually more sophisticated entity had tried this or

(20:18):
would try this in the future. The Secret Service looks
awful based on what has happened here.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Buck, it's a bigger failure than the Kennedy assassination.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Based on what we know. No one was pointing at.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Lee Harvey Oswald minutes before he shot from Dallas Deely Plaza.
No one saw him with a gun. And I understand
some of you are going to say there's multiple people shooting,
but let's just leave it at Oswald right now. We
had for minutes people at that rally screaming there's a

(20:53):
guy with a friggin gun on the roof of a
white building that could readily and easily be seen by
many of the videos that you have all seen. The
sniper team in theory was looking at him and took
him out only after he fired the shots, which means

(21:17):
they completely failed in their job too. It's great that
President Trump is okay, thank the ward that that shot
narrowly avoided killing him. But the fact that you allowed
that guy to take a shot is the biggest security
failure for a president certainly since JFK. And I would

(21:40):
argue again, to my knowledge, nobody was saying, hey, there's
a guy with a gun aiming at Kennedy right now.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Before Kennedy was shot.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
So this is worse, I think than what happened in
nineteen sixty three.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Well, I mean, the president was killed in nineteen seventy three,
but that is a function not of what the Secret
Service did. They allowed this on the scale, the scale
of the failure is worse. The result certainly is better,
But we didn't control the fact that the guy's gonna
miss or that it's gonna nick his ear. They didn't
know that Oswald or whoever else was shooting at Kennedy

(22:17):
on that day. The police and the Secret Service were
notified by patriots who saw this and said do something,
and they still let the guy shoot. It's it's a
stunning failure, and there's no way around that. And I
understand that the first impulse that we often have on
the right is oh, well, thank heavens for the Secret Service.

(22:41):
That's not really actually what the first reaction to this
should be. I'm not impugning any individual agent, any individual
individual agent's courage or patriotism or willingness to put their
life on the line, but as an entity, as an organization,
you know, nobody after nine to eleven was saying, oh, well,
the CIA did a great job, right, I mean, and

(23:02):
and so there's a little bit of that afterwards, which
I think was.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Just that's reflexive.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
When people think about this more, they have more of
an understanding of what our expectations are of Secret Service.
And I understand there's so much here. People are going
to be talking about this forever. Why is it that
the gunman we know so little about him? Why is
it that there's nothing about him on social media? Apparently
he's a loner, he was bullied, he tried to join
a rifle club.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Everyone thought that he was weird.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
He was apparently a really bad shot, which is why
they said he couldn't join the rifle club. But the
rules of engagement not allowing for an imminent threat to
a pre to the president. And keep in mind someone
died because of the security or in critical condition because
they're stay fail. But yes, yes, and so it's not
like near miss for the president. But everything was okay.

(23:48):
Someone died. There's a person who's you know, family is
never going to be able to be made whole because
of this lapse by Secret Service and the other you know,
affiliated law enforcement there. But the truth is secret Service
calls the shots. Secret Service bears the blame. That is
the fundamental reality of this. Having been in the CIA,
I know this from you know, if you have primacy

(24:11):
on an issue and there is a massive national security failure,
you don't get to say, well, we all kind of
had some involvement. If you have primacy, if it is
your call, if you are calling the shots, at the
end of the day, you are the one that has
to face the music for it.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
And I haven't even gotten into how.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Long President Trump was kept on that stage after the
shots rang out. Yes, the obvious, the visuals of not
fit female Secret Service agents seeming to not know what
to do, not able to fully cover the president, and
people say, oh, they're throwing their bodies. Thankfully, they're all

(24:48):
wearing body armor, so yes, they're taking a risk. But
one of the reasons why they create that protective shield
is because they know that chances are they're going to
be less likely to you know, they're armored up basically
under those under those jackets, under their shirts. So the
fact that they were slow in getting him out of
there was also a problem. But you can't get you

(25:12):
can't have a shooter with no real tactical training, with
nothing other than just the psychotic desire to murder a
president be able to get armed rifle shots from a
roof within a few hundred feet of a president and
an outdoor rally, and think that the Secret Service is
honestly worth anything.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Everybody should be fired who was involved in that security management.
And this is me saying it as a you know, layman.
The number one place to secure is an elevated target
within view of the president, Like this is me the
most Obviously, if you've watched movies.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
If you've seen in the Line of Fire with Clint Eastwood, right,
if you've seen at.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Least that guy was like a skilled assassin in the
movie by the CIA, this is, for all intents and purposes,
a loser, twenty year old with limited training who was
able to almost alter the course of world history because
of so many series of colossal screws.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
And for those of us who have had exposure to
secret Service in the years past, which I have both
in DC and the you know, I've been in the
Oval Office numerous times, and just do there's a lot
of like, would you stand back, sir?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
I mean, they're very officious, even with.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
People who are clearly no threat, and the President wants
to see and knows that, and I know they're going
to say, we have our procedures, we have our procedures.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Okay, you're allowed to say we.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Have our procedures and be very uh, you know, officious
about the whole thing if you get the big stuff right.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, but but don't don't give me this. You know,
you're a standback, stand back.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
And all this stuff when you're at like a you know,
ten thousand dollars a person fundraiser and the Secret Service
happens to be there, and they know everybody who's there,
and they've already been vetted. And then you let somebody
take rifle shots at a president in the most clay.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
It was the most obvious, vious.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Observation position to take a shot from elevated ground, the
closest and the most obvious. And now there's a report
that the law enforcement, local law enforcement got up there
and saw the guy and didn't engage and.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Just ran off the roof.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
And then you had the swat guy with him in
his sights and didn't engage until the shots are taken.
You know, if the rules of engagement are first they
get to shoot at the president and then our guys
get to shoot back.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Well, what good is the Secret Service?

Speaker 5 (27:33):
No?

Speaker 1 (27:33):
And I'm a big believer when I'm saying, when I'm
comparing it to JFK, I'm a big believer in don't
analyze the results. Sometimes you get dumb luck right, and
all fascets.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
The Service got lucky when it comes to you're lucky. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Sometimes, like you know, you can run the ball on
third and twenty and pop a big run in football,
and it wasn't the right play call right, They allowed,
with the processes and protocols in place, Donald Trump to
come within a fraction of an inch of being assassinated
in cold blood on live television in four k Think

(28:09):
about what that would look like.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
What could be a bigger disaster, by the way, I
mean when you think in terms of the Secret Service
and the the the obligation that they have, the you know,
the oath that they swear to to to protect uh
and you know, to protect the president and to protect
the principles that are under their care.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Uh, this was as bad a lapse as it could
really be.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Even when you talk about something like the attempted assassination
of Reagan where you know where he was hit but
he survived. That was an ambush. From a look, they
should have scattered out better clue. That was a lapse
as well. But it wasn't a guy in broad daylight
taking the most obvious possible position, taking his time setting
up a rifle shop. Point it out from pointed out
by random people saying, hey, there's a guy up there

(28:51):
with a gun and no one doing anything, and the
squat team looking at him through a scope or.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Not squat whatever they were.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Uh, you know, there's a special response un that they
had up there, the counter sniper team.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I don't know how much worse it could be.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
That's why I'm comparing it to the JFK. Yes, JFK
was killed. This was a situation where Trump could have
been killed, and we would think about how the conversation
would be going right now if all of these videos
came out of all these people saying Trump is there's
a guy with a gun. There's a guy with a gun,
and he had hit Trump in the head and killed him.
I don't know that the country would ever recover from

(29:24):
how big of a screw up this is because it
was self evident that the shot was coming and we
didn't stop it. Unlike with JFK or unlike with Ronald Reagan,
nobody said, hey, that guy's got a gun, he's aiming
at the president, and then that guy was allowed to shoot.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
It was a bigger failure.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
In terms of allowing the shot to be taken than
anything that anyone who is alive today has ever experienced.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
I think with the president of the United States, if.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
An untrained twenty year old psychopath on his first try
could put a bullet through the President's ear.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
What the hell is the Secret Service doing?

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Do you know what I mean that? I mean, they
fail at their most basic job. This isn't I think,
when was the last time there was even an attempt
on a president's life, A serious attempt a president's life
has been a long time eighty one. I think that
we do forget it. This is where we get into
the fixation on DEI. The out of shape female agents,
the some of the male agents, secret Service agents, not

(30:25):
moving very quickly, not looking like they even knew what
to do to get him. Evact out of there. I mean,
Trump came out of this looking like Leonidas in three hundred,
But the people around him, who are supposed to be
incredibly sharp, incredibly fit, and incredibly tactically aware, made a
mess of the whole thing leading up to, during, and
after the attempt on the president's life. And you know, look,

(30:47):
I understand why people there are a lot of people
play right now. You'll never be You'll never be able
to convince them that this was just one guy doing
this thing without anybody else aware of anything.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I don't I don't know what to say, because it's
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Like telling people, you know, yeah, Epstein hung himself, the
cameras were out, the guys fell asleep. He's the only
person to ever be killed in the MCC in Manhattan.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
And that's just deal with it, you know what I mean,
Just just accept all of that.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
The only two options as we go to break here
are this was gross criminal negligence to allow this shooting
to occur, the nearly assassination of the president gross criminal negligence.
That is, I can see someone being prosecuted for failing here,
or it was intentional. Those are the only two options.
They intentionally let something like this happen, which I even

(31:32):
to think of is terrifying, or it was gross criminal negligence.
Those are the only two options. We'll talk about more
on this. Also, take some of your calls. Airic Covedy,
who we hope is going to be the next Senator
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Speaker 1 (33:15):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show, final half
hour Monday edition, live from Milwaukee. As drama builds on
who the vice president will be, we are joined now
by Kosh Pttel, who I bet is going to have
a role in the new Trump administration. He can play
coy about it. I bet Buck you would bet on
that as well. First let's start here. What are you

(33:36):
asking Cash what he wants? Yeah, weapon will be in
So let's start here. Expected VP announcement very very soon.
Buck went jd Vance months ago. To his credit, jd
Vance now out to seventy percent odds in the favor
of being the nominee. Do you think it's gonna be

(33:57):
jd Vance or do you think that you know Trump?
Is there some sort of surprise that is still out
there on the horizon.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
I think the genius of Trump, whoever he picks, is
that there's always going to be multiple candidates until the
very last second. And that's just how he operates because
he looks and reads the room. I mean, look at
the gravity of what we just went through in the
last forty eight hours, right, I mean that monumentally changed
the scene. What I've said to him and what I
said publicly is the same thing I said. It doesn't
matter to me who you pick. You're going to pick
the best candidate. But my Mickey mouse opinion is, don't

(34:26):
pick someone who's going to run for your job the
second you announce him. Don't pick someone who's going to
be your number two. And in the White House, we're
gonna have to fight the same fights we did with
Mike Pence. Who's trying to have your job every day
and have staff leaking all the time.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
That's the most important thing to me. It's not really
a quality test because the quality we have on the
menu is incredible.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
So this is an important part I think of the
future for Trump and obviously therefore for the country. Cash
you were acting chief of staff at d D under Trump, right,
So you've seen what personnel at a high level the
Trump administration was like people. Trump himself has said that
he had some choices. I mean, you just mentioned the
vice president who was running for president until he came

(35:07):
on this show, and Clay asked him, Now, I was
gonna say, not a few questions, one question a few times.
That pretty much the ended that trajectory or whatever it
was for his run. Is Trump going to put the
right people in the right places this time? Are you
confident does he have the right people advising him about
who should go where? The additional you know, he's the
I don't know if you're a chess guy, but you

(35:28):
know he's the king. But he needs to have the
bishops and the Knights and the Rooks and everybody else
in place too.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
No, you're absolutely right. You can't just go top level.
You got to go rungs down the ladder at every agency,
in department. And the good news is the bench exists.
The bench is now known, the bench is out there.
And for me, I think there's a separation between how
campaigns are run and how white houses are run. Right
we're in full campaign mode and that's not my expertise
or fora but I do believe that the president from
the first administration and what the media and the justice

(35:54):
system has done to him, has now been very attuned
to what is acquired in the next administration. People keep
telling me, like you're a Trump loyals. Trump Layst was like,
I don't even know what that means. All I'm in
for is to follow the lawful orders of the commander
in chief. Because Donald Trump is my boss. I'm a
senior advisor still, so obviously I'm biased. But that's what
That's what people need to do, whether it's ag FBI,

(36:15):
whoever comes in at those positions. They can't come in
and do a Bill bar or Mark Espergina Haspell or
Rod Rosenstein. They can't come in and undercut him and
threaten to wear wires and go into the Oval office
and videotape and audio tape and President put him under
legal surveillance. That's the type of stuff we were up against.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
When you saw what happened on Saturday, where were you
the assassination attempt? What was your reaction not only to
what you saw? Did it surprise you? But also to
the courage and bravery that Trump showed?

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Did that? What was your reaction? Kind of take us
off to your impressions.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
So I was at the hotel room with the Nevada
delegation who I'm here with with the chairman, and somebody
called me and said, hey, Trump just got shot I
was like, well, that's not really funny. And then we
flipped on the TV and I was like, oh my god,
and you know, a million of his strengths.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
He was gone. First for about two or three minutes,
I was worried that he was going.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
You know, when you hear the President's shot, that's yeah,
you're like, you go to the scariest place, of course,
just a natural reaction. You don't want it to be true.
Then as soon as the TV turned on and he
gave that fist bump, I was like, my man is
not even good to go. He is outrageously good to go.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
And that like, I.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
Mean, you want to talk about two ends of the spectrum.
I'm down here. The second I see he gets shot
here he gets shot. Anyways, the fist crowd goes USA,
and I go this guy is living in a world
that can only be led by him. I mean, it
was just an amazing scene to see that. In fifteen seconds,
literally fifteen seconds, you saw the lowest of the low
and the highest of the high.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
I still can't believe he did it, by the way, Yeah,
I mean it was so courageous and I have never
been I was fired up, like the way. I was
watching Braveheart when William Wallace throws the sword up in
the air, except this was real light.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yes, this was really happened. This was Alliwood movie. That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
It outdid whatever moments of you know, political glory you
thought of in the past in movies.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
No, there is no warrior like that. And he may
be a political warrior, but he is a warrior in
a class of his own. You know, I'm coming from
a world of guys who used to be Special Forces operators.
Those guys are warriors. I'm coming from a world of
guys who wear the badge, wear the uniform. Those guys
and gals are warriors. But Donald Trump is a warrior
in his own league. There is no one else in it.
There's no one else as tough and smart as he is.
And what he did in the twenty four hours afterwards

(38:26):
let the world know that he is not backing down
and that he wants to unify this country. I thought
he sees the moment better than any script, any Hollywood
film could have ever done. And the world is rallying
behind him.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
What do you think the Biden campaign thought when they
saw that video? I mean because I'll be honest. First
of all, Joe Biden, we know could never you know,
in any way behave in that fact, can barely move
right now. But if there were a Democrat president, for
sind this was not Trump and they reacted in that way,
I would say the exact same thing I'm saying now.

(38:59):
This is the bad as thing we have ever seen
an American president or an American presidential contender do in
my life, maybe in anybody's life that's listening.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
I just I just.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Picture them seeing that and being like, the race is over,
right like this. There was a story buck about when
Ronald Reagan gave the point to hoax speech and he
was running in against Mondel and Mondell's campaign watched the
speech and they were like, yeah, we're gonna get smoked.
They were like, this race is over because that was

(39:29):
just such a majestic speech at the right time. To me,
I watched that, and I'm saying, there's no way you
can come back from this.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
I think they're in action defined there. Biden's inaction defines
what they were thinking. I mean, if you were the
commander in chief of the free world and you saw
your opponent and former president get shot. Yes, what you
should do is get on the TV immediately. He waited
hours to address the nation. They waited hours to put
out a statement because that's what they wanted. They wanted
that vacuum filled by crazy, outrageous statements that they could

(39:59):
then politicize what they should have done. Their inaction speaks
more than their action does for them not to get
on the horn and say right away, we hope Donald
Trump's okay. Right away, we spoke to him, and right
away we are going to figure out what happened to him.
I mean, his press conference and his Oval office address
was shameful.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Fir comandaergy in the.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Same way that you could tell the political ideological leanings
of media outlets based on whether they did things like
CNN saying, you know, Trump at rally, here's pop pop
and falls down. I mean, it was disgraceful the way
that they initially they actually wrote like falls down or something,

(40:36):
and it was gunfire then falls down.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
I've got them both. They're so bad because I knew
they were going to change him.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
Trump injured in incident at Pennsylvania Round that CNN I
saw it. Secret Service rushes Trump off stage after he
falls at rally. This is why the people hate the media,
and this is why people who say we are wrongfully
attacking the media. We're asking them to put out the truth.
The world is watching and you can't. There's a videotape,
everyone is watching and you can't put the truth.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Then, but in that moment you can tell who's who
and what they believe based on how they reported on it.
Same thing with Joe Biden when he's asked the question
it was an assassination, and he muttered something about it,
I don't have all the facts. Yes, someone tried to
shoot Donald Trump. What other facts do you need to
know that this and him and hit him?

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yes, And this is a definitional for what an assassination
attempt is. And Joe Biden needs more facts? Well, what
other facts would you need other than He didn't want
to make that concession in the moment because he's so
partisan and so pathetic. And I think that that just
shows you Biden's character. It's even more than just the
fact that this guy is dementia. He's not a good guy.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
How pathetic. Having said, we're very fortunate that Trump is
still alive. Unfortunately, one man isn't who went at the
rally two people severely injured in the shooting.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
How much of a failure is it.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
That we allowed Donald Trump's life to come literally within
an inch or less of ending due to complete It
seems to me complete operational failure in terms of protecting him.
What's your reaction on that as more of those details
have come out.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
A look, I've done fifty trips with the president around
the country overseas when he was in office. Since he's
been out of office, I know the Secret Service guys
really well. And it is a mechanical failure of epic proportions.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
And here's the thing. I have an op ed coming
out later on it.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
You know, we cannot rely, in my opinion, on this
FBI and this DOJ who set up Donald Trump and
tried to weaponize justice against him to kneecap them politically
and take him out of the race. We cannot say, oh,
let them do their investigation. We cannot have Congress, where
we have a Republican majority in the House, say let
the FBI DOJ investigate. No, they lost that mandate. And
also Congress is a coequal, coredate branch of government, so

(42:44):
I outline an entire investigative process. I don't want to
get out of the facts. I don't want to say
it was this person's fault or that group's fault, or
lack of funding or lack of resources. I want to
find out the answers, and they should be giving the
American people those answers on a daily basis in the
well of Congress, saying we found this and not let
the deep state FBIDJ hide behind it's classified. We can't
tell you. We the people run Congress and we the

(43:05):
people run the executive branch.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Where's that off ed going up? Actually, I don't know.
My publicis put it out.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
I gotta find well, if you need somewhere to publish it,
I'd like to publish it at out Kick if you
need somewhere. Because we've been talking about this, I don't
understand how we can allow the FBI that's trying to
put Trump in prison for the rest of his life
to also simultaneously be investigating who tried to kill him.
That is such a conflict, it's readily apparent. I'm surprised
more people aren't pointing it out.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
You're right on it.

Speaker 5 (43:30):
No, and the Speaker of the House. Look, I'm not
calling out Mike Johnson. I've known a long time. I
think he's a great guy. But he has the authority
and the ability to say we are going to conduct
a parallel investigation. I'm not saying you got to shut
down the FBIDJ. But you go in there and you
get every memorandum. There's an issue of whether or not
Trump asked for Secret Service. I know that his people
did ask for augmentation over the years, and what did

(43:50):
Secret Service do came in over the top and said, no,
that's a lie. Okay, let's see the memorandus because if
that rask is made, it's papered, not lately, heavily, over
and over and over again. So where the emails, read
the documents, show the American people that and don't summarize
to me a political cover up job. You guys covered
up Russiagate, You covered up the insurrection narrative, You covered
up Hunter Biden's laptop, you covered up fifty one Intel letter.

(44:11):
You lost the mandate of truth and credibility with the
American people in Congress.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
As our only hope, cash, you're gonna have to help
Trump clean up the swamp you.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Ready for Listen.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
I'm all in for helping the president get elected and
if I have the opportunity, he gives me a call
on November fifth to say, hey, can you come back
in I'm all in one hundred and ten percent wherever
he wants me.

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Outstanding stuff.

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Speaker 3 (45:46):
All right, welcome back in here, Clay and Buck going
strong at the RNC.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
We had a senator in the last hour. We have
a soon to.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Be senator in this hour. Eric Hovedy is with us here.
He is running in Wisconsin. Oh, no pressure, Eric, But
if you lose, the Democrats may have Senate control, which
will put a huge, huge wrench into the gears for
Trump transforming the country and doing amazing things. If you win, well,
you're gonna win. Tell us why we're here in Wisconsin.

Speaker 6 (46:16):
I'm gonna win because Senator Baldwin is one of the
most extreme liberals who votes with Joe Biden ninety five
point five percent of the time. She spent her entire
life in politics, literally forty years. She takes all kinds
of special interest money. She's way out there on a
social spectrum. I mean, she actually earmarked our tax payer

(46:37):
dollars to a transgender clinic to affirm kids that are
doing that without notifying their parents. Now think of that.
It's crazy, and that's our tax dollars. So look, I'm
out there talking about issues that matter. Inflation, the costs
of everybody's food, insurance costs, you name it, energy prices,
housing costs going up. I'm talking about the border, the

(47:00):
fact that we are losing one hundred thousand young people
to fentanyl every year, the terrorist risk, the crime issues,
all the issues that matter to the people of Wisconsin.
So you know, I'm staying on the issues. I'm working
my butt off. I need all the help I can get,
So you listeners, Wisconsin is it. That's why we're in
this great state. If President Trump wins the state, he's

(47:22):
got the presidency. If I win the Senate seat, we
got control of the Senate, not just for two years.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
But probably four, maybe even six.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
We spent yesterday with your hopeful soon to be senate colleague,
Ron Johnson, and he was walking through how you win Wisconsin.
He just won two years ago in a tough market
twenty twenty two, where they spent a lot of money
against him. He's been outspoken on so many different issues. Frankly,
both Buck and I believe he's been right on COVID

(47:50):
almost better than anybody else has.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
And we particularly love him because he comes on the
show and references previous shows that he was just listening to.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
So he's By the way, you will be loved forever
by any radio host.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Like I heard you talking last week about Anyway, go ahead,
click you are.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
What he said is you have to go to all
the communities. You said you just finished a big tour.
What are you hearing when you go out into the
quote unquote real world. We're in Milwaukee now, it's great,
it's a city, but the heartbeat of Wisconsin is not
in Milwaukee. It's in the community surrounding Milwaukee to a
large extent, What are you hearing from them?

Speaker 6 (48:26):
Look, a lot of the issues I just talked about,
if you talked to wisconsinights and I did my RV tour.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Literally I drove sixteen hundred miles.

Speaker 6 (48:35):
We went all the way up the east coast to
the north, all the way down the west, and drove
all throughout the middle part of the state. You meet
a lot of wonderful people. What are the issues that matter?
They're getting hammered by inflation. Real wages have gone down
under Joe Biden. So I don't care if it's food,
if it's energy, it's whatever.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
People are being hammered.

Speaker 6 (48:58):
An older man stood up and said, I'm spending more
and more in my life is getting worse, and that's
just a reality. Second, the border and all what I
call it, the rotten onion, the different layers of it,
the crime problems, the terrorist risk problems, the fentnel crisis.
They can't account for one hundred thousand children. And I
you know, I'm because my foundation and rescuing children out

(49:22):
of the sex trade and what I do both in
this country and around the world.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
I know that subject all too well.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
A lot of those children have ended up in the
sex trade, which is disgusting that the other issues that
people are talking about healthcare. I wish Republicans would talk
about this more. The access to healthcare is collapsing. The
costs is just continuingly rising. And you know, present Obama
when he passed Obamacare, said oh, this will mitigate costs.

(49:48):
It has done nothing like that. He said you'd be
able to keep your family doctor. The family doctors all
but disappeared. So, you know, healthcare is a big issue.
And then if you're in a city like More because
of the defund the police movement and the open border,
crime is such a huge issue. I spend a lot

(50:09):
of time in the black community, the Hispanic communities, and
they'll tell you I did a picnic in the park
and literally people were coming up and saying, we need
the National Guard called out. I mean, it's crazy and
it's sad. I mean, Milwaukee's a great city. As you
can see, it's a little humid right now.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
We well know, yeah, yeah, but it's supposed to clear out.
But you know, it's a beautiful. It's a fun city.

Speaker 6 (50:34):
I mean summerfest, burers, games, bucks, all the rest. But
you know, it's been hammered by crime. So that's another
big talking.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Issue now for anybody who is perhaps favorable toward Trump
now talking about wisconsinights. But it's thinking to themselves, well,
you know, yeah, Trump, But I don't know. I've heard
of Tammy Baldin for a long time, so you know,
maybe I just split ticket voters. Do you feel like
that's a thing that could be an issue here in

(51:04):
this state? And if it is, how would you convince
them to come over to your side of the aisle.

Speaker 6 (51:09):
There will be a very small amount of people that
may do that because Senator Baldwin is a good chameleon.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
She runs in the state as a moderate.

Speaker 6 (51:19):
To her first ad, believe it or not, was talking
about how she, you know, worked a piece of legislation
with President Trump. Now that's the same woman who we
literally video is going viral right now of her talking
about Donald Trump being one of the most dangerous men
that he cannot be made president.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
I mean again, she's a progressive socialist.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
So I don't think it's gonna be a big number,
if it is a number at all.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
But you know, she does a good job, as you know,
she dos both sides. Yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
So you're you're here to tell everybody that you know,
she tells Wisconsonants, don't worry, I'm normal I'm just like you.
Then she goes to DC and she's a comedy like
the rest of them.

Speaker 6 (52:02):
Yeah, oh, one hundred percent. And frankly, she lives a
good chunk of her time up in New York with
her partner who's a wealth manager to the uber wealthy
and the private equity set. And yet she rails on
Wall Street. She takes money from Wall Street. Her girlfriend is,
you know, the heart of Wall Street. But you know
she comes back here and says, oh, I'm fighting against

(52:23):
Wall Street.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
It's just she's dripping with hypocrisy.

Speaker 6 (52:28):
Somebody's been doing an ad, probably supporting Mike cam campaign,
calling her Tammy two face. That is a perfect definition
of who Tammy Baldwin is.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
We're talking with hopefully the next Senator from Wisconsin, Eric Hovedy.
The vice president is the talk of the day. Reports
are that tonight at the convention, Trump is going to
bring out as vice president. What do you think is
going to happen? How would you analyze this? The final
four according to Martha McCollum, Doug Bergham, Marco Rubio, Glenn

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Youngkin sliding in the maybe a little bit by surprise,
and than jd Vance of those four, how would you
assess the decision and how much do you think the
VP pick matters, particularly coming on the heels of certainly
an assassination attempt.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Which feels like, I mean, it's a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
That's also an important reminder for the power and the
need for a I mean, rather the power of a
strong VP pick and the need for a VP pick.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 6 (53:24):
And look, President Trump will only have one more term
as president, so this is a huge pick.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
To me.

Speaker 6 (53:32):
The most important thing is that whoever he picks, and
all four gentlemen meet this test, that there's confidence that
that person can step up and be the president of
the United States. That's the problem that the Biden administration has.
Not only has he lost his marbles and is incapable
to do it, but nobody has confidence in Kamala Harris yep.

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So you know, look, we're just talking about Governor Bergman.
I think he'd be a great guy. He built a
fantastic to uh company, great planes.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Uh. Where do you think it's gonna be, Doug Bergram,
I'm I'm thinking it is. I'm thinking it is.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
I'm leaders by the way, we get people that are
burghm people but I will tell you this. We also
get the North Dakotas who say he's a little squishy
on some of the issues and he's a little bit
of a moderate. Oh I could we could have you
sit here and just take calls the next how wow
from North Dakotans who are like he wasn't good on COVID.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
And I'm just saying that we always get the heat
when you have these finalists. It's not only people advocating
for their guy, because it does look like the final
four are all guys. They throw elbows at everybody else.
So it's like you're not even saying like somebody might
call in and say I'm a JD Van's guy. They
don't say that. They're like, this is why can't guys rhino.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
I'm like, wait, I thought I thought we were all
in the nest. I thought it was the trust tree.
We're all friends. So I mean you mean politics is
a context.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
It gets a little dasting speA get a contact sports.
By the way, we're gonna be with you. We cannot
wait to help you directly. We're gonna be in Madison, Wisconsin.
We're doing the show live on September thirteenth, I believe
the Friday before Alabama Wisconsin in Madison. You are a
diehard Badger fan. How much are you looking forward to

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that game? I hear that it's already like kind of
bedlam for that weekend, even trying to get hotel rooms,
a place is to stay.

Speaker 6 (55:23):
It's gonna be madness. It's gonna be fantastic. That is
gonna be Fantastic's gonna see there because.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
He's never been to a Big Ten. Have you ever
been to a Big ten football game ever?

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Unless you've taken me to it.

Speaker 6 (55:36):
I look, and I'm not saying this just because I'm
Big ten. The Big Ten are by far the best
football experiences some of the SEC. But the SEC but
I'll let you all the size of the stadiums. Look,
I can't stand Michigan, but you go into that house,
you go into Ohio State, the vibe all the round.

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You will love Camp Randall and you're gonna love how
it's set up in a community and the bars and
the brats and all the rest. I mean, you guys
are gonna absolutely have I can't. I can't wait. So
it's and Madison's a beautiful, beautiful city. So yeah, we're
gonna do it from the top of one of the
buildings I own there that has this fantastic view of

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their like.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
A special cheer like scratch him like a badger or
something like.

Speaker 6 (56:25):
No, you just you just better be ready to jump
around at the end of the third about this.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
No, you know the song them jump around. I've heard. Yes,
I grew up in the nineties. I know it jumps.
So tell them about this.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
At the end of the third quarter they play jump
around and literally everybody entirety stadium is just jumping and jamming,
and even the players down there, even the opposing team
players sometimes do it. It's funnier than I'll get out.
So yeah, no, you guys better be ready to drink
some because you know, us wiscons Knights know how to drink.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
I mean we're professional drinkers. Just hail or House of pain.
Jump acih, we'll get pain. Thank you nineties.

Speaker 7 (57:07):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
You just so we're gonna be ready to drink.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
You know what, we just had Buck just at his
first I had I didn't know that Wisconsin had a
special kind of old fashion.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Well I didn't know that you guys had your own gardy.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Care here he talks smack about min Julips before we
went to.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
I'm a huge fan of an old fashion, but I
really know Wisconsin had its own version.

Speaker 6 (57:26):
I look, I just did a funny video of doing
a brandy old fashion, which is what most wisconsinight's and
certainly what I grew up drinking. And now a lot
of people drink bourbon ol fashions, which I've moved to.
But yeah, we have a little our own unique way
of doing it. But this is the home of the
old fashion. Frankly, per capita, I think we probably drink

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more than any actual Wisconsin drinks more alcohol than any
state in the country.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Start to hold here from what I.

Speaker 6 (57:54):
Understand in the Winnesday, you know you gotta learn how
to be experts at the indoor sport, and that you know.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
We'll come back and do snowshoeing sometime with the winning's
the Senator.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
We'll go snowshoeing with the.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Senator September in Madison. It's going to be incredible. It'll
be beautiful.

Speaker 6 (58:11):
Look, it'll probably be seventy two degrees blue sky.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
It's gonna be fantastic.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
Unfortunately, we just got a really rainy, stormy summer this summer,
it's supposed to clear up. But man, did you see
that lightning lass? Oh yeah, last night it was crazy.
It was a big ass storms rolling when.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
People got deluge.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
They were coming into the hotel like everybody was out
walking because it's hard to move around in cars, and
it looked like they, I mean, the heaven's completely opened
up on them.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
We got a lot of you know, I just thrown
this out there. Usually Clay says this, but I like
to say it too. We're number one in Milwaukee on
the radio at this time, Thank you. Wisn so get
a lot of people listening in this state, and we
got other stations throughout the state too, But we're here
in Milwaukee. Where should folks go? Because I think, so
go with Huvedy, So go with the Senate. That's really
I'm just gonna I'm gonna put my marker down right now.

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Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Bock.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
We are join my Senator Roger Marshall from the great
state of Kansas. Senator here in person with us. You
look professional, which is good because you're a senator. We're
radio host, so this is how we roll. Sorry about that,
but let's just first start with day one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
R n C. Here you are. It feels different, doesn't it.
It really doesn't.

Speaker 7 (01:00:54):
Let you know, a Dodge pickup and have a dog
Dodge pickup and usually have a twelve gauge shotgun in
the back for hunting purposes as well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
How does it feel.

Speaker 7 (01:01:03):
I've never seen the Republican Party so unified, and just
my first convention, I think that many of us feel
like we're making history. That President Trump was divinely protected
Saturday night, and you know what's next for this country.
I've never seen so many people just uniting, people that
were on the fence saying I'm in, I'm all in.
What a fighter we have in Donald Trump. So I'm

(01:01:24):
just wanted to be.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Here as we speaking of Donald Trump as you were
about to come on the set with us. You're standing
talking to me your phone rings. It's President Trump. You
literally were talking to him three or four minutes ago.
What can you tell us about that call or is
it top secret?

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Well? I think most importantly is that he's doing good.

Speaker 7 (01:01:43):
He's I think he's very very grateful and certainly realizes
this divine providence as spared his life and that he
has a special purpose out here. He reminds me of
King David from the Old Testament that God, that he
has a heart for God and he wants to do
the right thing. And of course I'm not going to
talk about the president thing, but maybe that came.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Up maybe a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Do you know, even if you won't tell us, do
you know who the vice presidential nominee is?

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I do not know for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
I like, I'm the one with an interrogation background, But Clay, wait,
somebody sitting right here on the set who knows. So
what are you hoping this week accomplishes for the party?

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
I mean, how do you expect the messaging to go?

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Because you know, look, let's be honest, given what just happened,
and you mentioned Vine Province I said to you, I'm
not somebody who throws the term miracle around very much,
but I have enough familiarity with firearms and tactical situations
to know that it was a miracle that Donald Trump
was okay. Still a massive security lapse and a failure,
but it is a miracle that he's fine. Given that
people could see this as an opportunity to be very angry,

(01:02:50):
very partisan, or an opportunity to rise above and bring
the country together. How do you think the president or
I should say the former president and hopefully future president
can do Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:03:01):
So unity, unity, Unity, I think that is the message
that we're going to be talking about here. And I
think the writings on the wall we walk in here,
the platform's done. It's simple, twenty simple bullet points. We
focus on the policies on securing the border a big
removing a lot of illegal aliens out of the country.
We focus on the economy. How do we get rid

(01:03:23):
of inflation? And when we do that through driving down
cutting regulations and cutting taxes and balancing the budget. So
I think there's a message of unity here Republicans. You'll
like it or not. We all do have an opinion
and it's hard for us to come together, and I
think America sees that. But I really do feel that
this week you're going to see a message of unity
out of the entire party. It's great to see some

(01:03:44):
other people coming on board to speak tonight as well,
so we're all in.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
You are one of the first people to raise issues
about Joe Biden's mental and physical decline.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Your issues. You are a physician.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
What do you see observing him and is it, in
your mind reckless to be arguing, as Democrats are that
he could serve for another four and a half years
as president of the United States based on what you observe.

Speaker 7 (01:04:10):
Yeah, heaven forbid if Joe Biden gets re elected or
truly a vote for Kamala Harris. You don't have to
be a doctor to see this huge decline that we're seeing.
And once you kind of fall off that cliff, it's
really a rapid descent. I think that we're seeing it
in his speech, but where I really see it as
his physical abilities. Look a person with Parkinson's what they
do is they have this shuffle when they walk, and

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even today now Joe Biden is walking when his toes
at the ground first rather than his heels at the
ground first, so that's a big difference from last year.
He's holding his arms even closer to himself, so there's
not much movement in his arms. He has brady kinesia,
very slow movements, and then he freezes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:04:51):
We don't know what his cognitive function is like, but
the onus is upon him. He could prove that to us.
I think we've seen from his debate performances, even from
his press conferences since then, that there's a huge cognitive
laps going on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Hey, doc, what should the GOP do about healthcare going forward?

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
I'm just gonna give you a simple one, you know
what I mean. But go ahead, sports teams in a
few minutes. But for now, how do we fix that?

Speaker 7 (01:05:12):
Well, so you want to talk about the chief chance
of repeating? No, really, So I came to Congress so
I'm not only a physician. I helped frontal hospital. I've
overseen health departments. Anything that promotes transparency, innovation, and consumerism
will drive down the cost of healthcare. It's the cost
of health care that's the problem. Most people like their doctor,
they like the it's the cost of it. So anything
we can do to make health care more transparent, remote innovation.

(01:05:34):
If you want me to say Medicare, I need a
drug for Alzheimer's, that type of thing. And then consumerism
is letting patients be consumers again. Right now, when I
would see a patient say look, you need a surgery,
the first thing they asked me does Medicare cover this?

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Does my insurance cover it?

Speaker 7 (01:05:47):
If it does, great, But there was never a thought about, well,
how much is going to cost? So we need to
make patients consumers again. Would love to come back and
talk about prescription drug prices and the impact that pharmacy
benefit managers have on that three of them controlling about
ninety percent of the industry and they take fifty cents
of every dollar.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Can Trump fix it if he has unified government? Can
Trump make big strides to do more so that we
actually see healthcare costs going down. This used to be,
as you know, the primary political issue. Then Joe Biden
decided to blow up the whole border and make it
so that you know, ten million illegals have come in.
So that's gone to the front. But healthcare is still
a big deal.

Speaker 7 (01:06:21):
Great, So, first of all, President Trump did some things
to fix it. One thing he did. He is in
an executive order that hospitals had to be more transparent
with their prices and their cost something that I asked
him to do.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
So I think the answer is ges it won't be easy.
Is this a four or five.

Speaker 7 (01:06:35):
Trillion dollar industry. They have an incredible lobby. It's part
of that swamp in DC. I'm not sure which is
bigger the Department of Defense people lobby them, were the
healthcare So it is a lot of dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Going by last question for you, do you expect to
see the vice president introduced tonight and what would you
like to hear from the vice presidential candidate If we
do get that introduction tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:06:57):
Right, I expect an announcement any home now and he
within the next few hours. I expect him to be
he to be introduced this evening. I want to hear
a message of unity. At the same time, I think
I go back and think of other vice president candidates
we had had out there, is that they do need
to defend the president's policies and they need to be
the face of taking on some of those tough, tough

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issue issues out.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
There as well.

Speaker 7 (01:07:21):
I wanted to be someone that truly embraces what we're
here from Americans that they want to secure the border,
they want the price of gas and groceries to come down.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
And just real quick, your Kansas City Chiefs will win
again next next year?

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Is that what's going to happen?

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Or I should say, well, yeah, next year, i'd be January.
Is that when the super Bowl happens? Close February but close.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:07:38):
You know, we just introduced Mitch Holtis as the Cansiad
of the Year at our big society.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Mean, he's all in.

Speaker 7 (01:07:43):
He thinks that he sees that special motivation and you
know what he said the secret sauce was the great
players he's ever met are humble, and he sees that
humbleness in Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey and Coach Reed
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
I think that about radio host but doesn't agree. Humbleness, humbleness.
Thank you for giving us the time.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
I noticed, by the way, I'm not the CIA guy,
but you said he when the vice president gets introduced,
which makes me maybe you do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Know who's coming. Thank you, sir, Thank you everybody