Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Everybody Tuesday edition of the Clay and Buckshow
coming to you live from the r NC. We are
right here in the action, seeing everybody and trying to
help make America great once again, which I believe is
the official slogan. A lot of news to get to
and we'll tell you about what was like last night

(00:20):
when Donald Trump, with his ear patched up, walked into
an arena of people went right to their feet and
oh my.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
We will dive into that.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
We also have some updates on just what went wrong
with that assassination attempt on Trump in terms of the
Secret Service failure a few days ago.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
How was it possible that they messed that up so badly?

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Unfortunately, with more information it keeps getting worse for them
in terms of the recklessness, in terms of the errors made.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
We'll discuss all that.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
But the biggest news came out yesterday right after we
went off the air, and it is that we have
a vice president now on the Trump ticket. We know
who the VP is, jd Vance, the vice presidential pick
of Donald Trump, the senator from Ohio.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
This is what it was like yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
This is cut to when the media made the big announcements.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
The news we have been waiting for throughout the day
has just been made. This is an announcement on truth
Social by former President Trump he has selected Ohio Senator
jd Vance as his vice presidential pick. We now have
the former president's pick and it is jd Vance, the
thirty nine year old freshman senator from the state of Ohio.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
He has just posted on truth Social that he has
made his selection for vice president and it is jd Vance,
the thirty nine year old senator from Ohio. We have
breaking news, folks. You see it on the ball but
I'm banner here. It appears that President Trump has picked
Ohio Senator jd Vance as his running made.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
All right, so it is jd Vance.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
We're gonna discuss here what we think that does both
for the ticket and also for the Republican Party going forward.
I will take a brief moment here, Clay, a little wee.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
We have it. It almost looks like we have a track.
So I'll do a very short victory lap.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
I do believe maybe in February or March I was
saying that it would be jd Vance. I did not
waiver from my position in the it will be Vance
bunker for many months, and here we are.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
A steak is owed.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I will wait to collect because it's looking like we
may have multiple stakes in the midst What do you think, though,
now that I've had my victory lap that it is
Jade Vance?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
What do you think about JD as the pick?

Speaker 5 (02:51):
First of all, I'm now minus one on steake bets,
and I'm looking like I'm going to be in a
double steak bet hole because I think Joe is going
to be the nominee. Now Buck Island real estate is
skyrocketing and value with.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
This we're full now, Just so you know, there's no
more lots for sing.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
This is actually the far more impressive pull because you
picked JD. Vans when he was like ten to one,
when nobody was talking about him. I don't remember the
first time that you said it. I said, Tim Scott.
By the way, we're going to be joined here in
a little bit by Jim Jordan, who we actually had
steaks with last night. But I now have to win
if I crew can correct me if I'm wrong, I

(03:32):
think I have a steak bet with you on lower
turnout than twenty twenty, lower total voter turnout twenty twenty, Yes,
and that the black mail vote will be twenty five
percent or more for Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
So I have to sweep our steak bets right now
in order to get back to even This is a
tough position to be in. I've dug myself a hole
minus two now minus two on stakes. It looks like,
let me say this, I think it's a really smart play.
And we're gonna talk with Jim Jordan about this. Who
knows JD also from Ohio. But to me, this is

(04:09):
a we're gonna win Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin pick.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
He thinks that JD.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Vans, who's a very successful author, forty years younger than Trump,
young family, will connect with that white working class vote.
Only thing bad about him I can say is that
he's an Ohio state Buckeye fan and super smart. I
believe will wipe the floor with Kamala Harris and will
basically park himself. This is my theory of what they're

(04:39):
gonna do. Park him in the Midwest. Recognize that if
you take one of those three states, to say nothing
of adding Minnesota to the equation, which I think is
in play as well.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
To me, it's a confident pick.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
It is a I'm not going to try to balance
the ticket or worry about the external noise. I want
a guy who is smart, that I can trust, that's
going to have my back. I don't want and you
guys know out there. We had Mike pens on and
he won't come back on the show because I pushed
him on whether he would give the part in to Trump.
It was more like a shove and he hasn't been

(05:15):
back on the show since, and we've tried to invite him.
But if I'm Trump, given the people that he picked
who did not have his back, I think he is
going to be really focused on competence and loyalty as
the top two candidates, the criteria for the people that
he's picking, and so in that vein, I think it's smart.

(05:35):
You saw it early. I think they genuinely have affection
for each other. You said, like Trump really likes jd Vance,
like they enjoy hanging out.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
The reason early on that I was able to go
on the record with the pick. I don't know jd Well.
I've just interviewed him a couple of times. I think
you and I have had pretty similar experience dealing with
JD in the past obviously a super smart guy, a
high wattage guy, and very impressive life story. But I
knew that Trump just liked hanging out with him.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
And after four years of.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Being president, I had heard from the inner circle around
Trump that he wants a VP, that when he's at
events and he has to do things, he wants around me.

Speaker 7 (06:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
He realizes that this is something of a four year marriage,
if you will, you know, a four year union. And
I think that that's the part of it that really
got a lot of us early on saying it would
be JD. Also, for me, there's a lot of talk
about what would be helpful for Trump. I don't think
Trump needs help on a ticket. I don't think it's
about that. I think it's about having a VP. God forbid.

(06:39):
We all understand now the original role of a VP.
Why did they create this post this whole idea to
take over in case of so that's you got to
fill that slot first, right, I mean, it's got to
be this is a person who you wouldn't trust to
be commander in chief. And I also think in terms
of the future of the party, JD Vance is somebody
who the Trump base, the Trump voters have grown to

(07:03):
like and trust on policy. They like the way he
talks about the economy. He represents the new GOP. So
I I was in a unique position where not only
did I think it would usually I'm like, I think
it like, I think it'll be biting, and I'm like, well,
I don't. My heart's not in it one way or
the other. With JD, I thought he was the best
choice and the likeliest choice. So I think it's a
win for Trump and a win for the GOP all around.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Should we Yeah, let's go ahead and bring in Congressman
Jim Jordan here with us of Ohio. We have had
JD on the show a bunch of times over the
past several years. But you know him really well because
he won a hard fought Ohio Senate race. For people
out there who do not know JD vance, how would
you introduce him to the audience And do you feel like,

(07:48):
maybe more importantly, I'm gonna win any steak bets or
is Buck just gonna run the table here?

Speaker 8 (07:53):
Buck's gonna run the table?

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Was a smart guy? The h No.

Speaker 8 (07:58):
I think JD is the American He's the American story. Yeah,
a kid from the humblest of beginnings to now I
think going to be vice president of the greatest nation
in history. And he's only forty years old. This is America.
I mean, this is and I think Buck's exactly right.
This is someone President Trump can relate to likes and

(08:19):
I think everything you guys have said I agree with.
Never you know, the old adage, never hurts to have
smart people in charge. Yeah, yeah, President Trump is one
smart guy. You guys have been around, I've had I've
gotten to know him over the year. One smart jd
Vance is one smart guy. Watched him get on Meet
the Press a week ago Sunday when the left wing
press is coming after him, and he was he handled
it so well, right, demeanor right, answers. I mean it

(08:42):
was just really good. Uh. And then there's a political perspective.
You've said this, Clay, it's a big ten election, yes, right,
And here's a guy from Ohio state who is the
only thing I can.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Say bad about him. We're in Wisconsin right now. I
know there's a lot of Badgers who feel that way.
I'm a I'm a Michigan girl. Yeah, I got a
you went to Wisconsin that.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
I kind of say, Jim, I'd never been exposed before
to all the big ten smack talking about SEC until
I came to Milwaukee.

Speaker 8 (09:09):
Now I'm yeah, so uh. I think you know that
everyone says, this is Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin is going to
decide this, right j D. I think is perfect to
go talk to the folks in a in a relatable,
powerful way, talk to those those voters.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
And that's but just going to say, that's going to determine,
most likely, I think the outcome in the election overall.
And while there's a lot of there was a lot
of talk, I think about, well, what about it?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
You know?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
And I disagree with this in principle, and I don't
like when Republicans do this, they go, oh, what about
a woman? What about a minority? What about We just
want the best people right for everything. Always a woman,
a minority or or not doesn't matter, shouldn't matter to us.
And if you actually look at it, I think what
will be the deciding factor in those important states Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,

(09:55):
it's going to be mostly white, working class voters.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
I think that determine the outcome.

Speaker 8 (09:59):
Yeah, I think it. I think President Trump has already
changed our party. But I think we're now a party
where we always should have been, where a populist party
rooted in conservative principle. That's where I think the Republican
Party should have been. President Trump and JD. Vans are that.
And I think it's why Ohio, which used to be
the belt weather state, is now trump Republican state. Is
that I remember Ohio and it was every Now it's

(10:21):
he won it by eight and a half and sixteen,
eight and a half and twenty. I think he's gonna
win it by more. And if he wins it by more,
Bernie Marino is our next senator. I mean that that
I think is really helpful.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
Is going to be a lot of split voters that
would it would take ten percent basically of voters. If
you're right, and I think you are, that Trump's gonna
win by Ohio by at least.

Speaker 8 (10:39):
There's gonna be some. But I don't think ten percent. Yeah,
there are gonna be some, and Schery Brown's hoping it's
gonna be but but and he's tough to bet. But
Bernie Marino is a good candidate. I've campaigned with him.
He is good on the stump and he's a he's
a Jdvance type of guy, young, sharp guy who who
I think relates to relates to the vote. I think
he can win.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Well, what do you think about that seat that's opened
up now with JD or will be opening up hopefully
with JD.

Speaker 8 (11:02):
Well, Look, I'm well governor Downe'll he'll, he'll, He'll pick somebody. Wowwright,
I have focused on Look, I was in Minneapolis on
Saturday when uh and when we got the tragic news
of what was what was going on Pennsylvania campaigning with
with our colleagues, I'm I'm, I'm focused on helping Republicans

(11:24):
win our senator, our senate candidate in Ohio, Dave mccormy's
a great Canada Pennsylvania campaign with him. We're trying to
help the candidates win and help President Trump and JD
win at the top of the ticket, and do our
job as chairman of the gistrict community. We got a lot
of work to do. In fact, we've got Chris Ray
coming in front of us next week. You're going to
stick with us for the next segment. If that works, okay,
we'll come back, We'll continue with you. I want to

(11:45):
ask whether you see uh, kind of a little bit
of a teaser here as we go to break do
you think Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania will move in tandem
or do you see those states potentially breaking off. We'll
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get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton
Show joined now by Eric Trump, and we were just
talking about your dad's the way that he walked into
the r NC last night. You were there, you saw it.
But I want to start because I said I was

(13:20):
going to ask you this question. You got two young kids,
six year old, four year old. He's grandpa to your kids,
while he may well be the next president of the country. Again,
where were you when you saw what happened at the rally?
What was your reaction? And what has your dad been
We had him on the show Friday. He was fantastic.
But what has he been like so that you've seen

(13:40):
him in the last seventy two hours basically since that happened.

Speaker 9 (13:44):
Yeah, well, I was thinking they're watching with my kids
on the couch well, you know, the shots broke.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
I'm a shooter. I know that sounds very very well.

Speaker 9 (13:50):
And my heart sank, right, I mean, obviously you see
him go down, you see grab his head, he goes down,
and then you know at that point he's behind the stanchions,
those you know stanches up front, which you know are
meant to take bullets, but obviously they're coming in from
from high all secret service agents, you know, jump on him,
and you know, frankly, there's a good chance he was dead.
It literally, I mean, it's divine interventional what doever we
want to call it? Right, I'm not a moshi guy,
but it's I mean, that bullet literally graced his ear.

(14:12):
He took off part of his ear, like you don't
get closer to death than that life. Had he not
turned up the last second, he would have been dead.
And so my heart sank. Obviously he came up. You know,
there's blood all over the face, blood on the side.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
Of the you know.

Speaker 9 (14:23):
So again we didn't know if he got hit the
torso we didn't, you know, know how he was doing.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
And then he put up his hand and he said,
fight by fight, And.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
What was it like to see your dad in that moment,
I can't even describe for everyone else what It's probably
the most iconic political moment of any of our lives.
And I've never seen people so fired off, so joyous,
you know, to go from that the low which you
just described, Oh my god, what have they done? You

(14:51):
know what has happened to Trump? To your dad too,
he's okay? And also this guy is like Leonidas in
three hundred or something, and it was amazing.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
Yeah, no question.

Speaker 9 (15:00):
And then to go to the even higher of that, right,
I mean, obviously he gets up, but we still don't
know he's okay. He's being rushed to the emergency room,
and you know, all sorts of vehicles with machine guns
all over him and everything else.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
I mean it was.

Speaker 9 (15:11):
But then exactly forty eight hours later, I was the
delegate from Florida so cast the deciding vote that made
him the Republican nominee to President of the United States.
And I looked at Laura last night I said, I
don't think there's ever been kind of the dichotomy of
two sides. I mean, they punched in the stomach thinking
he was possibly dead on the ground, with Secret Service
agents lying on top of him to obviously making him

(15:31):
the Republican nominee, to then seeing him walk into the
convention last night, the first time he's really been seen
since that shooting, and there was kind of a somberness
to him last night, and.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
We think he walks with an aura of destiny. That's
what we've been saying, That's what it feels like as
an observer. I can't imagine when it's like being as
close to it as you are, with your dad being
the guy who is the guy.

Speaker 9 (15:49):
I've seen a time and time again over the last
eight years, the way that Pinchulm has shifted, right, I
mean every single time, there's no question that there's somebody's
hand on him, and you know somebody's watching down and
protecting him. But that was too close and it shouldn't
have happened. It should have never happened. And let's I
give a lot of credit to the Secret Service ages
on that stage, right, I mean, people are trying to
take shots at everybody. I know, those agents and these
are people who love him, adore him. The female and

(16:11):
that you know in that picture that's become very famous.
She was with me for three years when I had
Secret Service one of the kindest, nicest but by the
way best shooters in the Secret Service, because I shoot
with all those guys, and I mean, she's she's as
good as it comes. And I can only imagine how
that crushed her soul as somebody failed on the outside
and allowed that to happen. Somebody let an assault rifle
within one hundred and fifty yards of the President of

(16:31):
the United States. That's a chip shot, right, that should
have never happened before. I mean, it's yeah, I'm sure
you saw last night. They asked Joe Biden, well, basically,
were there going to be any consequences? And he said,
I talked to him evidently forgetting that he has a
female head of the Secret Service.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Is there any doubt in your mind that she should go?
Just based on how big of a failure that was
to allow that to occur.

Speaker 9 (16:56):
It is the greatest failure I think in the history
of our government. And I'm not putting that on the
agents on stage again. I would do anything for those guys.
Let me just reiterate your listeners. They are the greatest people.
They were willing to take a bullet for him, and
had it not been for the Counterciper teams and I've
shot with those guys and they're the real deal.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
They're they're the best of the best, you know.

Speaker 9 (17:14):
Had it not been for there, you would have had
dead agents on that stage as well. You would have
had a dead former president, a dead future president, and
you would have had dead agents on that stage. I
had not been for the CS guys, But somebody really
screwed the pooch on this one. They really really messed
up and it should not have happened. I mean, it
is a failure. And the fact that Biden didn't know
but listen had the Secret Service came from Pepsi. I mean,
why wouldn't you come from Pepsi? I mean that seems

(17:34):
like a guys, this country needs to change. It's it's insane.
I mean, all this DEI stuff is it's just insane.
Do you?

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I mean you would know this? Do you? Your dad?

Speaker 1 (17:44):
The top people around advising him. Are you already thinking
about who's going to go? Everyone talks about secretary of State.
There's certain roles right that people play this parlor game
if you will lok where they're going to go. No
one ever thinks of Secret Service director. I know it's
under DHS, but people don't think of necessarily some of
those agency positions. But having been to the big dance,
so to speak, once as the president, and having been

(18:05):
their buyer dad as he did it, are you already
thinking about that next tier, especially on the security national
security side of things. Who can clean these places up?
Because the culture is I mean I can speak from
the CIA side. I have a lot of friends still
in there. The culture is messed up. It's not just
people are making mistakes.

Speaker 9 (18:21):
You better believe that's gonna be his number one priority
on day one is cleaning house in the shops that
are just out of control Ceeia. I mean, listen, I
fought the whole Russia Hoaks investiaition. I was the guy
that got the phone call, right. I got the call
from the New York Times, the Washington Post. I hear
there are secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower
that are communicating directly with the Kremlin. I go, first
of all, we're like a cloud based company, so that

(18:42):
have servers. Second of all, you don't put servers and
basements because basements flood. So let's just start the obvious
and they let that crap go on for three years.
They pitted two nuclear superpowers against each other for the
sake of trying to get Hillary an extra three votes.
All right, let's be honest with who these people are.
They knew was a sham day one, and they let
it go on and hang over the presidency. That's how

(19:02):
bad it is. Believe me it this problem will be
taken care of on day one. He knows the bad,
he knows the good. He knows how the system works,
he knows how the system has targeted him, and you
better believe me, they'll get cleaned up, and you better
believe me there will be there'll be changes made in
that organization.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
As a son, somebody takes a shot at my dad
and they say, the FBI is investigating the same FBI
that is trying to put my dad in prison for
the rest of his life. Don't you have to be
sitting there saying, how in the world can we trust
any of the government apparatus that is surrounding him right

(19:38):
now even to try to figure out the assassination story,
how it happened. It's so corrupt. I mean, that was
what I would think as a son. That has to
be going through your mind all the time as he.

Speaker 9 (19:48):
Started this wholeial rade by spying on his campaign. Yes,
and he said it, and then on sixteen minutes like, no, no,
how do you have any proof? Hecuse they're spying on
my campign I'm telling you the spy on my pay.
Sure enough, they were obviously spying on his campaign. Now,
aren't any any trust it? He either does the country.
And by the way, I've got a couple buddies wore
FBI agents. The greatest people you'll ever meet in your
entire life, right, I mean, this isn't This isn't the
gun carriers. These these are the people who are going
after organized crime, right, These are the people on the

(20:10):
top floor of those you know, very fancy buildings that
they said. And it's so different than the Secret Service,
the people that are actually carrying the guns and doing
the job. And the Secret Service best people you'll ever meet.
You go to the eighth floor in Washington, d C.
And I would say the exact opposite. I'm not actually
sure if they have his best interest in mind. And
that hurts my soul to say I will protect the
field agents. You know, many of these guys are some

(20:30):
of my closest friends. They would do anything for me.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I did one assence. We're talking personnel. Obviously.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
The JD Van's announcement is a big deal. Some of
us saw it coming. But months ago Clay owes me
at and we're going to go out. You know that
place in Miami where they have like the gold case
and whatever, all of it, the theatrics. That's where Clays

(20:57):
go take me. We're gona have to put a little
steak bib on me. The whole thing is even great.
But JD Vance were very pleased about this. I thought
it was a great pick. Playthics. It's a good pick,
and he's happy that it's gone down that way. There's
some reporting out there that it came down to the
wire though, and now that the reveal has happened and
it's clear and it's Don and JD's the guy, they're
saying that you and your brother Don Junior, who we
both know well, that you guys basically were like team

(21:20):
JD and a critical push at the end to make
this happen. Can you can you confirm or deny that
that's how this went down.

Speaker 9 (21:27):
Yeah, listen, I'm a I'm a guy who wants DJT
to go with his gut. You know, there's there's people
I really liked, and all the people were mentally competent.
They're they're great, they're great people as hard you know,
Ruby had a little bit of a Florida problem, and
it's kind of hard to have, you know, two people
from the same state, obviously, but it amazingly qualified as
is as is the governor obviously. But Jad's great. The
chemistry that those guys have is amazing. You know, he's

(21:47):
been his own success in business, as you guys know
better than anybody. He's kind of quickly rose the political ladder,
you know, very similar to my father, right, Yeah, massively
successful in business, clothes, you know, Rose the political ladder.
He's got a lot of fire. He's gonna be incredible
in the russ Belt. He's incredibly well respected, awesome story.
He's willing to go into enemy territory. And most Republicans
aren't a right, I mean, I just had all the
CNN's and.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Everything else at any Sunday show. He can do anything.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
Hey, you know what, most people aren't.

Speaker 9 (22:12):
I am Donnis, he is, but most people we're gonna
try and camp out on the friendlies and you know,
you're kind of trying to get their message out. We
don't need that right now. We need somebody to really.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
Last question for you here as we finished at one
minute one minute.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Here, you have a six year old a four year old.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Your dad as a grandfather is what kind of grandfather
compared to what kind of dad he was?

Speaker 6 (22:32):
He's amazing. He showed up my daughters.

Speaker 9 (22:34):
It was grandfather like, you know, a good granddaughter day
at school, and so no one knew he was coming, obviously,
you know, the heads of school day because of the
Secret Service. And he shows up there and my daughter
just burst into tears, ran up to him, give him
videos huts so awesome, and the video literally went viral.
It's you know, him holding this delicate little hand as
a former president walking into kind of this grandfather's day,
and it was just amazing. He's an amazing grandfather. He's

(22:55):
an amazing guy. I couldn't ask for a better father.
And guys, frankly, I wouldn't take all the arrows that
I did if he wasn't the greatest guy in the world.
I will fight to the end of time for the man.
He's not such a great job with our family, none
of us have ever broken. None of us have broken.
I mean, you see the difference between the Bidens and us.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
We do.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
We talk about it actually, And.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We are man rolling
through a wild Tuesday here in Milwaukee, and we have
the guy who may well flip Senate control back to
the Republican Party, Tim Sheehy, who is here with us.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Right now from Montana. I like to look. I don't
know if you ever check it.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
I like to look at the gambling odds, predictive markets
out there. I don't know if you look, but you
have moved into a big favorite. Montana's are responding really
well to you. First major campaign for you, How are
you feeling, what are you seeing on the ground, and
how optimistic are you as we sit about three and

(23:53):
a half months away from election day.

Speaker 10 (23:55):
Well, it's not first major campaign, it's the first any
campaign for me.

Speaker 7 (23:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (24:00):
So this is my Cold War shot into politics and
not something I ever saw myself doing.

Speaker 7 (24:06):
But you know, listen to some of us served overseas.

Speaker 10 (24:09):
You know, Buck obviously was there too, and I served Herraq, Afghanistan,
and Afghanistan specifically. You know my wife who's behind me
here at the show, she was a marine. We both
fought there and watching that collapse in twenty one, I
served multiple tours. There was on the radio every day
with our friends, partners, interpreters, allies that we were abandoning.
And you know, I just said, I refuse to watch

(24:29):
this happen in our country anymore. I refuse to watch
policies that are literally targeting our own people for destruction
in many ways. I mean, we're having an upward transfer
the wealth, We're opening our border wide open, and we
have an economy that's not rewarding hard work and blue
collar workers in America anymore. So right now what we're
seeing on the campaign, Trannel Montana's, I've been an unknown.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Of course.

Speaker 10 (24:51):
We announced a year ago roughly, and you know I
was at four percent name by d and three percent
because there was a judge in Missoulamang Shihi, So basically
I was nobody. But listen, my message is one of
common sense. I'm just saying we need to bring common
sense back to this country. And for Montana's, what does
that mean? That means they want a secure border, safe streets,
cheap gas, comps are good. Criminals are bad, boys of boys,

(25:13):
girls and girls. I mean, these are pretty simple things
that weren't controversial five years ago, and I think everyday
working class Americans are like, you know, what the hell's
happening to the country I grew up in where you know,
landlords who have squatters in their home illegally are being
arrested for kicking them out of their homes. We're telling
our daughters that they should share locker rooms with boys,
that boys can play girls' sports. And you know, we're

(25:33):
legalizing crime in the streets while we're trying to imprison
foreign presidents.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
So up is down and left is right.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Right now, speaking as a reformed East Coast you know,
former up in the northeast guy here, we tend to
think of Montana. I think there's a very broad perception,
certainly on the coast of Montana's come on, it's like cowboys, rodeo,
it's got to be read, right, It's like northern Texas.
But the political dynamic there is actually pretty different. Right

(25:59):
There's it's more much more competitive than people realize because
you have a huge swath in the middle for the
state of people who are what independence libertarian, meaning like,
what's the political demographic makeup of No, thank you.

Speaker 10 (26:13):
For asking that, because that that is an important thing
for people nationally to recognize because you know, as you
both mentioned, this race will determine control of the Senate.

Speaker 7 (26:22):
That's it's that simple. We went Montana ruin exactly.

Speaker 10 (26:25):
Yeah, a lot of pressure, but and therefore people have
to have a little better understanding what's happening through the
amount of people I talk to who mega donors, you know,
max out donors, media personalities, who you know, do this
for a living. They're like, boy, what's going on in Montana?
And I'm like, you guys got to tune in. This
is an incredibly important race. I mean, the White House
is important, but the center is just as important.

Speaker 7 (26:44):
Really, I mean, if.

Speaker 10 (26:44):
Trump wins when he went, he wins, that's exactly right.
So but back to your question. You know, Montana has
a complicated political history. Yes, it is generally perceived as red,
and I believe today it is.

Speaker 7 (26:56):
But just you know, nine years ago in Montana.

Speaker 10 (26:58):
Seven of eight statewide elect offices were Democrats, and today
eight of nine are Republicans.

Speaker 7 (27:04):
Because we've added one congressional seat.

Speaker 10 (27:06):
So and that brand of Democrat Montana is the West Virginia,
you know JD. Van style Ohio blue collar, working class, minor,
lagger truck driver that used to be a pro union,
pro working class Democrat back when you had a pro gun,
pro border, you know, pro life democrat.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
But they pulled that in the state of Montana. But
I'm assuming they go to d C and they're rolling
with Chuck Schumer.

Speaker 8 (27:32):
Right.

Speaker 10 (27:32):
Well, so the only one we have left is John Tester,
my opponent, is the final remaining statewide Democrat in the state.
I mean he's he's the final holdout of that old
brand of Democrat. And to be quite honest, you know,
he's a masterful politician. There's no question about a credit
where credits due.

Speaker 7 (27:48):
He's good at it.

Speaker 10 (27:49):
And the state Party and the National Party dumps one
hundred and fifty two hundred million dollars in every election
cycle to brainwash Montanas into believe in that John Tester
is a down the road, moderate, common sense, Joe manchinstyle Democrat,
and nothing could be further from the truth. He's voted
every single time with Biden's agenda. He's supported Biden and
Kamela with all, he's got one hundred percent planned parenthood

(28:11):
f from the NRA.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
Now he's as progressive as they can.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
From the NRA get elected in Montana. That's just astonishing.

Speaker 7 (28:16):
Well we're gonna change that here in ninety days.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Well, there we go. So you mentioned John Tester.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
I bet there's people who are listening to us right
now that have voted for him in the past because
he is a very skilled politician. But you have the
ability to flip control of the United States Senate to
Republicans to potentially give Donald Trump the ability to enact
some of his agenda. One of the things we hear
a lot though, there are a lot of new people
who have moved into Montana from different states post COVID.

(28:44):
What does the data look like so far as you
can tell. Are they more likely to be Republican voters?
Are they more likely to be Democrats? It's like Florida,
who buck has moved. A lot of people moved into
my state of Tennessee. Break that down for us because
this is a first time since so I'll use these
coast as an example.

Speaker 10 (28:59):
I don't know where you're a graphic listener basis, but
since you're out of Florida, everywhere, but you know were
their political refugees in Montana and Idaho. So you know
people fleeing Oregon, Washington, California, the cows California, Washington, we
call them as the cows, are fleeing the left coast.
Those who are seeking to escape the totalitarian leftist policies

(29:22):
of the left coast are going to Montana and Idaho
to live their freedom, live in a place of liberty,
carry their guns. I just actually met a guy a
few weeks ago south of Missoula who had left Seattle
with his three children after they arrested him in home
depot for not wearing a mask.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
When he fled. He said, I'm never going back.

Speaker 10 (29:41):
The people leaving the left coast who want to keep
voting democratic going to Colorado. They've turned it blue effectively.
And you know someone going to Texas, Austin and they're
going to Arizona. The people that want to vote red
and live in a free country going to Montana, Ido.
So short answer to your question is that demographic shift
on the whole is helping us.

Speaker 7 (29:57):
Now there are some small mutis the palidies it is
hurting us.

Speaker 10 (30:01):
You know that the University towns like Bozeman and Missoula
definitely have gotten bluer, but on.

Speaker 7 (30:04):
A state level, we're getting redder.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
So that's helping us.

Speaker 10 (30:08):
And then to the Trump Tester vote, as you talked
about the people that vote for Trump and say, bah, yeah,
but Tester's got our back. He's a good working class guy.
You know, they just need to wake up. You know,
he's not mister pro veteran. He sits on the VA
Committee and panters to veterans every day. I am a
combat veteran, combat wounded veteran. My wife's a combat veteran.
I started my business with all veterans, Like, how is
how is a never having served career bureaucrat who's in

(30:30):
the State Center for fifteen years or ten whatever it was,
and now he's been in the US Senate for eighteen years.
He's been a career bureaucrat politician. How is he going
to take better care of veterans than a combat vet.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
He's not. It's that simple.

Speaker 10 (30:42):
So they got to wake up to that, and they
have to wake up to his voting record, which is
he has not been a common sense voice in the
middle of the road.

Speaker 7 (30:48):
He's been a.

Speaker 10 (30:48):
Loyal, progressive foot soldier for the Biden agenda every step
of the way. So it's time for them to wake
up and realize that Montana is at the tipping point
this cycle and they got to get out and vote us.
And if Conservatives show up and vote in Montana, we
win us. That simple, If we show up, we win.
And to that end, how can our listeners help listen?
If you're in Montana and you're listening, you know, spread

(31:09):
the word. You've got to get to those people who
somehow think that Tester is still a common sense voice.
Make sure they understand is voting record, and make sure
understand the issues.

Speaker 7 (31:19):
Go to Timfremt dot com.

Speaker 10 (31:20):
You can donate support us five bucks, ten bucks with
it more important than that, look at the issues and
communicate to your friends and family way everybody.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
One of the most important Senate races that is out
there right now be a huge pickup if you can win, Tim,
best of luck to you on that one. When you win,
you're gonna have to come back on and hang out
with us again. And also, thank you for your service
with the Seal teams. Appreciate you, sir, Thanks for support.

Speaker 7 (31:39):
We'll be back well.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Get you back, and we'll make sure that you're flipping Fontana.
Everybody out there listening right now, get out there, do
all the work.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Put this guy in the Senate.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
Flip back control break Tuesday, Buck, It's been a wild one.
We'll be back with you tomorrow in Milwaukee, continuing to
break down everything and more.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Thanks for hanging with it. Back here to Clay end Buck.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
It is all star day here at the RNC, and
we have another one of our own stuff. Alena Habba
is with us now. She is one of President Trump's attorneys.
You know her from trying to defend the president against
the layers of law fair that have been dropped on
him in recent recent months. Going back now over years, years, yeah, years.

(32:21):
I was going to say, it's a lot, there's.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
A lot of it. Let's start with this.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
We had the almost surreal feeling yesterday when the news
dropped that the South Florida case had just been dismissed
by a judge, which we had been told, oh my gosh,
people are going to prison, and you know, we never
believe that. But the point is that wasn't even the
top top news story because of what happened over the weekend.
But Jack Smith, it seems, has just missed entirely in

(32:46):
Florida and not going to be able to get it
done in DC.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Are you surprised by what a catastrophe this guy is?

Speaker 11 (32:53):
No, I mean we could start at the beginning. Who
the hell is he? And why was he put in
this position? And that's why he lost? I mean, start
from the very very beginning. You can't pick a henchman.
You can't say go and do so before the election
without the American people catching it and without the clear uh,

(33:17):
demonstration of partisan politics and law fair coming into our country.
It's as a lawyer, I've said it a hundred times,
but it's embarrassing for my profession.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
What he did.

Speaker 11 (33:29):
And uh. And I think that Merrick Garland and the
Biden administration has become so desperate and sloppy that these
are falling one after another like Domino's.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Did you when did you think that it was clear
that it was backfiring? At what point in this process politically.

Speaker 11 (33:44):
The indictments, the raid, the raid, right gone to the raid.
I was with the President when the raid happened, and
we were in New York and it's funny and I'm
going to speak about this, but it's funny the way
he is so resilient and it's just another day for him.
In that moment, I was like, this is this is
actually waste. When I signed up to be his lawyer, there.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Was nothing in.

Speaker 11 (34:05):
You don't go to law school prepared for corruption and
to fight.

Speaker 6 (34:09):
The deep state.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
You just don't.

Speaker 11 (34:11):
And I have learned so quickly under him, frankly, how
to be more resilient and how to be stronger, and
how to fight back and fight back with words and
the truth and the truth is, the truth is on
our side.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Here.

Speaker 11 (34:24):
We have history. We have logs, White House logs that
we've seen. I've been on trial and been told while
on trial, Oh, we just found out that miss James
visited the White House a month before she filed her
complaint and spoke with Kamala. She went to her apartment.
You know, things like that. You can't make it up
and it comes out. Eventually, it comes out.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
And it's of New York the state after and ran, yeah,
you guys, there must be tight and ran on a
platform of getting Trashed'm sorry, go ahead, No.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
I was just going to say, as a lawyer as well.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
When I look at what's going on in New York,
I can't imagine one to be a lawyer in New
York and wanting to run a business in New York.
Leaving aside Trump, When you see all that, how destructive
is it not only to the failure related to Trump,
but also just the legal system in general, where there

(35:14):
have to be a lot of people with prominent assets
corporations where they look at what happened to Trump and
they said, if they can do this to him, which
is why I think this is such a compelling argument,
they can do it to anyone. How ultimately, is it
destructive to the whole system of law in New York?

Speaker 11 (35:30):
I think if you look at statistics, if you look
at the crime rates that have gone up, that they're
ignoring because they have literally tied up all the courts
with getting after Trump. The citizens of New York are
suffering as a result of their political animis and their
political drive, and that drive is blinding to the radical left.
And when you have Ada and an AG who similarly

(35:53):
have had one mission, and that mission is not to
help New York. It's not to clean it up, it's
not to keep it safe to this fakeness. We are
seeing a rush of people leaving New York, fleeing to Florida,
going to Texas, going to places they feel they will
not be persecuted and prosecuted because they're a registered Republican,
or maybe they just don't want exactly I've been around.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
I'm one of them. I'm a homer New Yorker who's
now a Florida.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (36:19):
And look, I practice in New York, I work in
New York, and I'm afraid I'm and I'm not going
to lie to you, especially with my job. You don't
think I'm a target.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
I was going to say, And I bet you've had
legal friends, advisors, mentors who have said to you, you
know they're going to come after your law life.

Speaker 11 (36:33):
Hundreds person. Yeah, they already are trying. And the truth is,
I do everything ethically. I do everything that I'm supposed
to do. But they attack me because I have a
strong voice and because I'm a voice for Trump, and
that's not going to deter me from doing my job
and trying to save America through the legal system and

(36:54):
making sure that frankly, Americans know what is actually happening
in the back.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
You're speaking on Thursday. That's a big undertaking. I believe
you're leading in to Tucker. Yes, what is it like
to draft a speech? I imagine that's challenging. How much more
challenging was it after what you saw on Saturday?

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Have you altered what you would say?

Speaker 5 (37:15):
Take us into what the process of writing a speech
for that big of an audience is like for that
big of a moment, and then also to have to
pivot given what just happened over the weekend.

Speaker 9 (37:24):
Sure.

Speaker 11 (37:26):
So when I was asked to speak, I spoke with
the President and I assumed that my speech would be
much like what I've spoken about for three years, the
law fair, all of that, and that's not what I
was asked to speak to. I've been asked to speak
about him and who he is, and I'm honored. And
it's also more daunting for me because it's really the

(37:47):
underbelly of what goes on and who I've been friends
with for the last few years and who's made me
who I am. I had a speech prepared, this speech
was thrown out after Saturday. This morning, I actually rewrote
my speech from scratch, and I cried every time I

(38:07):
read it, and I'm struggling to get through it without tears,
to be honest, and I'm worried that I won't be
able to on Thursday night. But also I feel that
the American people don't know President Trump the way I do.
And I'm so honored to be one of those people
that gets to be with him a lot and.

Speaker 6 (38:24):
Tell them who he is.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
Okay, so this is important. It sounds like what you're
going to be talking about. My wife is also a lawyer.
She said what she hears from her girlfriends who might
not be willing to vote for Trump suburban moms is oh,
he's a misogynist. He's not a guy that I could trust.
That's what they say. Yeah, And she says, I wish

(38:46):
strong women would tell the story like you of what
being with Trump is like. Is that a part of
what you will do? And for everybody out there listening
to us right now who might be like my wife
and have girlfriends that they're trying to persuade, can you
say you.

Speaker 11 (39:02):
Work for him? He's this, he's that he does this
to women. Look at them.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Hear it in New York women there, you.

Speaker 11 (39:08):
Know, I mean, I've walked in New York and had
people scream at me or a disgrace. You're an embarrassment
to women. You are this, that and the other. I
think I'm a champion of women, and I think President
Trump is and I know he is, and that's what
I'm going to speak to.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Yeah, I think that could be a killer speech because
I think there's a lot of people.

Speaker 6 (39:27):
Which from me.

Speaker 11 (39:28):
Yes, but yeah, no, I'm excited to actually be Alena Habba,
not President Trump's attorney on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Well, Alena Haba, President Trump's attorney, thank you for being
here with us. You appreciate you making the time. It's
really good to see you. And also for stepping up
and being in the fight. I mean, we've been seeing
you do that for a long time where you're uh
came on the show. So thanks, it means a lot.

Speaker 8 (39:48):
Thanks so much, thank you.

Speaker 11 (39:49):
I'm honored, Thank you, thank you.

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