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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton show, we
appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
are rolling through what I would call the Unity edition
of the Republican Convention. Tomorrow, Trump will speak, But last
night many of you said it wouldn't happen. Candidly, I

(00:22):
have not. I don't think Buck has either. When we said, hey,
we know it's kind of nasty right now, we understand
if you are a Nicky Haley supporter or you are
Ron DeSantis supporter, there are raw feelings. I believe we
got this one right. Were we got to the convention,

(00:46):
everybody would be coming together, and I think this is
the strongest unity that the Republican Party has seen in
the Trump era by far. Twenty sixteen, everybody he remembers.
Ted Cruz, who spoke last night, did not officially endorse
Trump after that nasty primary battle.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
And when I was covering that RNC, I said Ted
will eventually and should have, and I think now he
would agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
And twenty twenty obviously not really a traditional convention. It
was a complete mess because of everything associated with COVID.
But last night, I want to play this audio.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Obvious.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
We don't have a lot of time to take calls
today because let me just tell you, oh boy, I mean,
this is the rundown. We are in radio row in Milwaukee.
We're meeting a ton of you all over the city,
all over the country, people up here who are listeners.
But we particularly love the Milwaukee crew who are volunteering,
who are helping on with us year in about a

(01:47):
half hour, Congresswoman Yes, Dean Kin formerly Superman Superman Stephn Miller,
our buddy who probably will not only tell you how
the campaign's going, but give you nineteen eighties and nineties
movie suggestions.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
The left calls him a super villain, but that is untrue.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yes, Dave McCormick, who is running for Senate in Pennsylvania
and was there on the stage preparing to be introduced
and to speak when Trump was shot. That story from him,
I would imagine will be very compelling. Senator Bill Haggerty
of Tennessee. David Sachs, who is the basic one of

(02:28):
the PayPal Mafia members, really good buddies with Elon Musk
twitter X, announcing amid all the other news that they
are leaving California and moving to Texas yesterday afternoon, we'll
talk about all of the big tech money that is
now rolled are supporting Trump and Senator Dan Sullivan from Alaska.

(02:50):
That is just what is scheduled. It is also possible
if you were listening yesterday, Lee Greenwood happens to be
walking by and we bring him up to talk about
singing to bring Trump onto the stage. So we are
in the middle of the epicentery. Oh, who may hop
on the show. We are enjoying it. We hope you
are enjoying it as well. But the DeSantis and Nicki

(03:13):
Haley people who many of whom understandably we think Ron
DeSantis best governor in the country. Nicki Haley obviously a
lot of people trying to do whatever they thought was
necessary to beat Biden. I want to play you the
full throated endorsement of each of those individuals. So hopefully
all of you that are super active online and arguing

(03:34):
I'm not gonna go vote, I'm not going to show up.
I hope that all of you have given up on
those emotional screams into the void that feels like many
of you embraced on social media for a while.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Let's start just some just some It was a handful,
but they were They.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Were very loud on and they were whining all the time.
We even took some calls. Do you remember from people
who said I refused. I would wonder if any of
those people still exist. I hope that they do not,
but it certainly doesn't exist in the Republican Party itself.
Let's first listen to Nicky Hayley give her complete and
total endorsement to Donald Trump last night. Here's what it

(04:13):
sounded like.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
I'll start by making one thing perfectly clear, Donald Trump
has my strong endorsement period.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Look, we've seen a move toward unity behind Trump that
even exceeded what we had seen from multiple sham indictments
used as the law fair campaign against Trump because of
the assassination attempt, because I think it has made it
so clear to everybody the stakes right now. Also, just

(04:53):
I think you have to take into account the sense
of the divine of the miracle that Trump walked away
basically fine, not without a scratch, but just with a scratch.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
This is Trump's party. Yeah, there's no there's.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
No voice within the Republican Party that has the support
of any considerable contingent of fellow Republicans that is not
all in behind Donald Trump right now, and you really
couldn't wish for anything better politically at a national convention.
So even the New York Times is one of the
headline was at the convention GOP transformation from dysfunctional to unified.

(05:34):
Now we can argue whether it was ever dysfunctional, but
the point is there are a lot of there's a
lot of regime media here. Yes, you know, I had
some French dudes coming up from me yesterday from French.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
They're like, during the show, I was trying to interview, interview.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
The most fantastic American we've ever seen, would you like
to explain all of zippolitics to us?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
And I was like, Monsieur Francois, give me a minute.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
And of course did you actually do the French media?
Oh yeah, the guys to interview. I don't know if
you could hear it, tried to interview your show while
we're on the air. He was just like trying to
walk right up on the stand.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Probably wi He had like a little beret and a baget.
I'm just kidding. They never beret.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
But we've there's a lot of media from all over
the world here, and there are a lot of regime media.
There's Reuter's Ap, New York Times, I see, and everybody
right yep. Point is, nobody who is here would make
the case that this isn't an incredibly unified GOP. And
I would argue even those for whom it is painful
to say it. Clay admit that right now the GOP

(06:36):
with the Nikki Haley endorsement of Trump, we're about to
get the Rod DeSantis endorsement of Trump. I don't know
if there's ever been a more unified GOP. You would
have to go back to Post nine to eleven Bush
era oh four, I think you would. I think you'd
have to go back to and and even then with
the Iraq War, that's as it was. There was already
this anti war stuff going on. So I actually think

(06:57):
this is the most unified GOP in living memory.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Okay, So I think we should also give credit to
the Trump team, which has also done a good job
of reaching out to all of these individuals giving him
speak shime. Remember, because there was talk, oh, NICKI Haley's
not going to be there, Ron de Santis not going
to be there. Well, last night they were there. We
just played Nicki Haley's full endorsement. Here's Florida Governor Rond

(07:20):
De Santis last night saying, I'm all in on Trump.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
I am alarmed that the current president of the United
States lacks the capability to discharge the duties of his office.
Our enemies do not confine their designs to between ten
am and four pm.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
We need.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
We need a commander in chief who can lead twenty
four hours a day and seven days a week. America
cannot afford four more years of a weekend at Bernie's presidency.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Weekend that Bernie's presidency, by the way, Bernie's too. But
that is something that analogy is something we've used on
this show for some time. I've seen it echoing all
over the internet from that speech, as Trump enjoyed that reference,
as he probably remembers well the nineteen eighties era of

(08:23):
that film Antis for Nicki Haley, for everyone in the
Trump campaign that they have brought that entire group together.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yes, and so.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
We told you this would happen. It did happen, and
so no one owes us stakes per se. But I'm
just saying this is one that we got right because
it's and it is not only that, it is more
importantly the right thing for the GOP. Right now, we
have Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna with us, so we're going
to come back in just a moment talk to her
about all the goings on here at the r NC

(08:57):
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the hill here, the most connected, probably the most connected
people you could get on Capitol Hill are here, certainly
from the Republican side, and they have a lot of
similar sentiments about Democrats moving their funding and their game

(09:23):
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Speaker 3 (11:24):
Continuing to roll here from Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Encourage you to go check out the podcast and the
number of guests quality a guest has been absolutely phenomenal
breaking down everything. And we got a brand new guest,
as you probably could imagine, David Sachs as a co
host of the all in podcast, venture capitalist man who
is trying to make San Francisco willing to actually consider

(11:48):
the idea of supporting Republican Donald Trump. And I'll start
off with this because for people out there who don't
know your background or your story, you recently hosted I
believe I'm correct, a twelve million dollar fundraiser in San
Francisco for Donald Trump. Jd Vance, now, the vice presidential nominee,
was one of the speakers at that event. I'm curious

(12:09):
how you've come to meet Trump and what you are
seeing as a guy from the venture capital technology space
is now it seems quite clear way more responsiveness and
receptiveness to Trump than anything we saw in sixteen or twenty.
Kind of take us into your world and what you
think is going on.

Speaker 7 (12:29):
Well, I think the dominoes are really falling right now.
You're seeing more and more support for Trump. Just yesterday,
Mark Andreeson and Ben Horwitz, who are two very big
names in the world of tech and venture capital, just
announced they're going to be supporting Trump and helping to
fund some packs on his behalf. And there's been a
whole procession of people. Elon just came out the other
day in the wake of the shooting basically endorsed Trump.

(12:51):
I mean, he was leaning that way, but he announced it.
I think Bill Lackman just came out. He's more of
a finance guy than a tech guy. But there's just
been a whole bunch of people have come out, and
I do think that the fundraiser I did for Trump
on June six d Day, coincidentally, it did help, you know,
break the ice a little bit in Silicon Valley because
it is a pretty liberal place, but we managed to

(13:14):
kind of break the ice for him.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
It's exciting to see how upset this makes some leftists,
by the way, the fact that you have anybody of
the kind of name recognition yourself people from your podcast,
the All In Podcast. Obviously Peter Thiel's been behind Trump
a long time, but now having Elon Musk and these
other names. What do you think if you had to
pick an event or a series of events that has

(13:38):
pushed you and some others who are like minded to
openly endorsing Donald Trump, what would it be.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Was there a moment, was it more just a progression?

Speaker 7 (13:47):
Well, I think for me what drove me to Trump
was issues, you know, first and foremost, I thought that
Biden's inflation was a disaster for the economy and easily avoidable.
It happened because he printed trillions of dollars of unnecessary
stimulus even though the economy had recovered. So I thought
his economic policy was bad. I thought his foreign policy
was bad. We had peace under President Trump, and under

(14:10):
President Biden he's kind of lit the world on fire
with a bad a bunch of very bad choices. So
those things, you know, and then the border situation was
just glaring. So those were some of the big issues
that drove me. And then the thing that put me
over the top was really the lawfair. Seeing, you know,
President Biden try to prosecute his political opponent seemed to
me so un American, so ridiculous, so outrageous, and the

(14:33):
media is going along with it as if this is
a normal think that we can tolerate in the United
States of America. That really, you know, pushed me kind
of over the top, saying I got to do everything
I can to stop this because if Biden got away
with it, then it's not going to end there. I mean,
once you weaponize the justice system and prosecution, they start
going after a lot of people, and they have been

(14:54):
going after more people. I mean, Elon's been a target
of retaliation already for making free speech legal again on
on Twitter X. So I thought it was really important
to draw a line and not let this lawfare go
any further by making sure that Trump won this election.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
So that pushed me over the top.

Speaker 7 (15:10):
And you know, when we did the fundraiser in early
June in San Francisco, it was right on the heels
of the convictions in that, you know what, I think
it was a total show trial and sham, that's right,
And so you know, it really felt like that was
kind of the nadier. I mean, you had the media
just pumping out this like ridiculous message that he's convicted
from well.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
And the brazeness, by the way to hold four trials
until the election year, involving conduct that is so old
and so deminimous, by the way, that they had to
concoct some bizarre theory of extending the statute of limitations.
I mean, I've never even heard anyone try to explain
from a probability standpoint, how could you expect the public
to believe that all four of these trials just happened

(15:52):
to happen in the election year, right, Look, at most
that New York trial was over and expired bookkeeping misdemeanor,
and I don't even think it was that. I don't
think he did anything wrong, But in any event, the
convictions happened, and it felt like that was like the bottom.
And then President Trump did this trip out where he
stopped in San Francisco and then he went to southern

(16:13):
California as well. But in San Francisco, they were expecting
protests and the local media had been pumping up his
trip to basically get the protesters to come out all week.
And what turned out is hundreds of people along his
motorcate but cheering.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
For Trumps in San Francisco. Pro Trump demonstrators.

Speaker 7 (16:30):
Now, I don't know if they all lived in San
Francisco or they came from the whole Bay area, but
they were definitely you know, Bay Area locals, and hundreds
of people came out cheering for him, and I think
that was the beginning of giving him a real boost.
I mean I could tell that he appreciated it because
he had spent six weeks in a courtroom. So then,
you know, I think we blew the doors off with
the event we did. I mean, we originally said we're

(16:51):
going to do it. The goal was to hit five
million dollars. We ended up doing twelve, and then it
grew to thirteen after and we had so many people
packed in for day that we just couldn't fit anymore.
It was unbelievable, and a big part of that was
people rebelling against this lawfair saying this is not okay,
and we're going to support Trump in the face of this.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
You've known Elon for a long time. You've been instrumental
in the reaction at Twitter and x to support free speech.
I'm curious what you see in San Francisco. How many
people that, to me is the most important issue is
whatever you think, you should be able to argue it,
and we have to have a real marketplace of ideas
and a real center for debate. How many people get

(17:31):
that in San Francisco? Is that growing? And how impactful
do you think Elon buying Twitter slash x has been
to the discourse that we're now having and also the
number of people who maybe weren't open to endorsing or
supporting Trump in a place like San Francisco. Seems like
there's a lot of blue areas now where there's a
lot of Trump support.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
Well, I think Elon buying Twitter was absolutely huge and
essential because it's stopped the momentum that the censorship movement had.
Remember it was and just about the fact that they
were censoring all these accounts.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
You had people like Jay.

Speaker 7 (18:04):
Bondicharia, the Stanford professor of medicine, who was censored for
saying true things about COVID, not to mention, you know,
people in politics being censored, Trump being censored.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
So you had that problem, but the censorship was growing.

Speaker 7 (18:17):
You know, it felt like every month there was a
new category of thought and opinion that you couldn't say,
and I mean it was getting really bad. And then
Elon stepped in and said, no, I'm not going to
let this keep going. And he put his you know,
money where his mouth is and bought the company and
effectively what was a hostile takeover and immediately set things right.
I mean, he basically fired eighty five percent of the

(18:38):
people and reopened the platform to free speech. And that
I think threw down the gauntlet for other tech companies
because now their censorship seems more egregious, so they're not
as free as x is, but they've kind of been
called out and they have to kind of moderate their
behavior a little bit. So I think Elon basically saved
free speech within the tech community. Now you asked the

(18:58):
question how many people support this, I think there has
always been a strong libertarian strand in tech, And there's
a lot of people in tech who might be kind
of liberal, let's say, on social issues or other kind
of issues, but they've always believed in free speech. But
those people had been kind of shouted down and overwhelmed
by the woke progressive left, which was using cancellation tactics

(19:18):
to go after anyone who didn't agree with them, and
they created significant punishment essentially for opposing them, for sticking
your neck out, for disagreeing with them. And they had
dominated the discourse I think until Elon bought X and
set it free.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
So what do you think comes next for some of
those major companies. Facebook YouTube obviously is incredibly important player
who says that his kids watch YouTube not television.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
I got three boys the news and.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
It feels like from the right, it's not as completely
outrageous and egregious as it was during COVID in the
twenty twenty election, but it's still there. How can we
reform some of those entities so that they're at least
a little bit more willing to adhere to free speech
principles or is it just we have to build our
own We just have to build our own and and
oppose their tactics.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah, it's probably some combination of those things.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
I'm also on the board of Rumble, which is creating
a free speech alternative to to YouTube. Yeah, exactly, So
I think you have to build alternatives. I mean, that's
the only way to really protect yourself. But then also
I think we got a you know kind of job
in these companies and let them know it's not okay,
take our business elsewhere if we can.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I mean, every conservative career like content creator that I
know now basically says they don't even they don't even
waste their time on Facebook. And ten years ago, Facebook
was very important for conservatives.

Speaker 7 (20:32):
You know, a lot of these companies are are run
by people who aren't necessarily woke progressive, but just don't
want to stick their necks out.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
You know, they below them, We're going to come after them.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (20:45):
Yeah, they're basically intimidated by the woke employees inside their
own companies.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, I mean they've kind of lost control to It's.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
The trojan horse situation where you bring in the people
that would potentially destroy your business. Bucks asking a really
important question where we're going from here, I'm curious we've
talked a lot.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
San Francisco's an amazing city, las.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
And a patient should be an amazing I mean historically beautiful,
geographically incredible. You've lived there for a long time. Have
you considered leaving San Francisco because it's frustrated you or
because we got a lot of people listening to us
right now in California and they say, no, I want
to stay here and fight. Have you in your mind
internally sort of worked through that. As many people out

(21:26):
there who have the resources to be able to live anywhere,
you could live anywhere in the world. Are you just committed, Hey,
I'm going to fight this out and make San Francisco
a place that is open to ideas Again, how would
you assess it?

Speaker 3 (21:38):
I've done both, you know, I have fought.

Speaker 7 (21:40):
I think played a role in helping to get our
crazy DA recalled Jess Boudin's like the super radical leftist
DA who just wanted to decarce rate that's all the
repeat offenders, legalized crime basically basically Yeah, and then we
had another success in recalling the school board. We had
this crazy work school board. So those were someories. And
now in the most recent city election, you got some moderates. Now,

(22:04):
by national standards, these would still be pretty liberal people,
but by San Francisco's standards.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
There and you've got a mayor race coming up.

Speaker 7 (22:10):
Right, and that's a big one, and it looks like
the moderate candidates are doing polling very well.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
So I think there's a really good chance.

Speaker 7 (22:16):
I think that that San Francisco moves back towards more
center orientation. I mean, basically, the battle in San Francisco
is between liberals and communists, yes, I mean literally, yeah, yeah,
and the communists been winning for a long time, but
now I think the liberals are like, let's not say
the mainstream liberals, And I think, you know, that's the
city that you can still live in because at least
they'll be police, they'll be prosecution, there'll be some business development.

(22:38):
It's never going to be as good as Florida or Texas,
but it's going to be a lot better than having
it being run by commissars.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Do your Silicon Valley peers who haven't yet been red
pilled do they argue with you over, oh, no, san
Francisco's doing great or are they just aware and they
refuse to admit. Like one thing we dealt with on
COVID was even when it was clear. And this is
how Clan I actually met the first time, was over
the COVID issue. We're both saying what they're doing is crazy.

(23:05):
These things are wrong. They'd never admit that they were wrong,
because that would mean admitting that people like us were
right in Silicon Valley in San Francisco Bay Area. Are
Are they just refusing to admit that people who are
more to the right have been correct or do they
recognize that that city has been run into the ground?

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 (23:22):
I think I think tech people generally are of the
liberal faction rather than the crazy communist faction, and so
there the recognition that San Francisco has kind of gone
off the rails is pretty widespread in tech.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I mean, I remember when there's an editorial that said
you shouldn't call the cops when they're breaking into your
home to steal your bike or your or your a car,
just because that could be violence against people of color.
I remember, I think was in the San Francisco A Chronicle.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
I saw that. So that's pretty crazy.

Speaker 7 (23:45):
Yeah, I mean, well, the whole state basically legalize shoplifting
under nine hundred and fifty dollars. But what happened is
they downgraded it from a filony to a misdemeanor. But
then all the DA's basically said, we're not prosecuting misdemeanors anymore.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
So it's effectively decriminalized theft.

Speaker 7 (23:57):
And of course you don't really know what nine or
fifty dollars looks like when someone walks out of your store,
so now they can steal two thousand and three thousand,
and no one knows what to do, so it just
it created a situation of just total lawlessness. But I
think the people in tech actually they're more on what
I would call like the liberal side, not the communist side.
And in fact, tech people are demonized in San Francisco.

(24:17):
There's like this hardcore they're like evil capitalists, right, yeah, basically,
and they even they actually are happy when they drive
a tech company out of San Francisco, like they just
did with.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
X just announced yesterday he's moving to Texas.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah, he said, I'm out of here with X. I'm
out of here with SpaceX.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
I mean, these are huge losses for San Francisco and
the state of California, and the reaction of a lot
of people on the sort of the the com sidey
the communist side is kind of yeah good. You know
they're they're happy even though that's the tax space. So
you know, eventually these guys are gonna you know, they're
not They're gonna run out of money, but they don't
seem to get it.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Clay, we got to send some of these communists chalk.
By the way, David Sachs, than, thank you so much
for being here with It's been really interesting. And you
ever need some folks for your all in as guests, man,
we're there.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Great to talk.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Clay's been described as a right wing extremist. I don't
know if I have yet, but I think I'm the
right wing extremist. So we can see how it actually
goes fun, a lot of fun. Chalk fantastic. They could
use it out there on the left coast, all the commies.

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Speaker 2 (26:27):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck Live here
at the r NC. Are amazing line up today of
fantastic guest continues on we were talking Senate yesterday. We're
gonna be talking Senate every day because we hope Trump
is gonna win looking good. But if we don't have
control of the Senate. In the House, things get slowed
down a lot. And if you're picking a Senate seat,
that is absolutely critical. If you think it might be

(26:49):
the most critical, I think a lot of people be
with you would be this race in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Dave McCormick is with us now. He's a veteran.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
He is a very successful businessman, understands economics. But Dave,
we have to have you start for us with you.
Were there in Butler, Pennsylvania. Right there, Yeah, right next
to the president, right in in the line of fire.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
That is the truth. Tell us about it.

Speaker 8 (27:12):
Yeah, guys, thank thanks for having me. I met the
President backstage when he got there. He got to Butler,
he did some pictures with folks, and he said to me, Hey,
I want to have you come up on the stage.
I want to have you come talk this is you know,
I want to talk talk about your race. So when
he got out there, I was sitting on the ground
level right to the right of him in the first row,
and he got into the speech a couple of minutes

(27:34):
and he said, Hey, this Senate race is important. Dave McCormick,
I want you to come up, and he invited me
to come up to the stage to talk. And so
I started to go through the security and got through
the first layer and was headed up to the podium
and then he goes, wait, wait, I want to he's
sitting this in front of fifteen thousand people. I want
to finish this to border things. I want to do
this chart. I'll have you come back up later so

(27:55):
you can go sit down. And I went and sat down,
and then two minutes later the bullets started. So, I mean,
it was very possible. And the President said that after
the fact that I talked to him the other day.
He said, two minutes you you know, you would have
been night in the middle of it.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
And uh.

Speaker 8 (28:09):
And it was pretty clear to me as a as
a military officer that that this was gunfire. Pretty quick,
I couldn't tell it was one or two. I thought
there might be two shooters. And I saw the President
go down. I saw him grab his ear and go down,
and the Secret Service was on top of him almost immediately,
and there was somebody hit behind me. So I was
sort of seeing it on two sides. And then I
saw this amazing thing which I'll never forget, which is

(28:30):
the President standing up and this phalanx of guards, you know,
secret Service guys around him, and I see this fist
come pop out and this fist of defiance and h
and you know, courage. And I'll tell you, guys, I
think if one hundred people were in that situation, ninety
eight ninety nine are in the fetal position and they're

(28:51):
not getting back up, and I wouldn't I have said this.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't blame them. I think you got
gunfire coming in, stayed out. I mean, we didn't know
if there's more shooters. We didn't know if the shooter
was dead. There was no way to know.

Speaker 8 (29:00):
And the fact that he got up, I was absolutely
never forget that image. And then they moved and he
could see his face was bloody. And so two things
were happening for me at the same time. I guess
three things. One they were moving the president off the stage.
The gentleman behind me was twenty five feet behind me,
was hit badly, and people were trying to how.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Quickly were you aware of that?

Speaker 8 (29:19):
By the way, about the sort of same time as
they were moving Trump off the stage, it became clear
somebody behind us was hit and then we were all
down because we didn't know if there was more shoe shooters.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, yeah, and it was. It was quite a surreal moment. Okay,
you have a military background.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
The fact that they allowed this twenty year old to
get up onto the top of that location that shed
basically and take a shot at Trump. How much of
a failure is it of the Secret Service? You mentioned
the guy behind you dead because of that failure. Is
there any way that the head of the Secret Service
should still have her job? And how in the war

(30:00):
world is that level of failure even possible? You were there,
Now that you've seen all that you experienced it, But
now that you've seen how it happened, what how is
that possible?

Speaker 8 (30:11):
Honestly, it's gonna be something we're gonna have to study
at the great length. It is a failure of such magnitude,
it's it's unimaginable to me. You know, I worked earlier
with the President Bush and I traveled with him. I
know what the security looks like. The idea that the
the initial answer I heard was, well, that rooftop was
not in the envelope. I mean, it's the crazy thing

(30:33):
that that rooftop one hundred and thirty yards any any
Pennsylvania deer hunter with a with a high powered rifle
on a scope, which gonna is gonna make that shot? Yeah,
And so the fact that the President turned his head
just at that moment saved his life and saved us
from a national catastrophe. So it's impossible for you to

(30:55):
me imagine that failure. It's imp and you see here,
everything you hear makes it sounds worse. And it's impossible
for me to imagine the person in charge of the
organization that oversaw that failure should be in their position.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
You worked in business, you also worked in military. Holding
people responsible for success or failure is a big part
of anyone in the military or business. Shouldn't Joe Biden,
as a matter of just basic responsibility, have demanded a
resignation there because, by grace of God, is the only

(31:27):
reason Trump wasn't killed. They completely failed in that absolutely.

Speaker 8 (31:30):
And listen, there's always going to be in any organization
things that happen that the leader has to be held
accountable for. The leader of the organization is responsible. But
in this particular case, the degree of failure changes the
course of history.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
It's so incompetent as well that I have a hard
time trying to explain to people the level of incompetence
without disbelief. And I don't begrudge their disbelief, because no
one wants to think that this secret service slash law
enforcement working with them in this capacity could mess up
so blatantly we've been talking about this. This wasn't someone

(32:08):
taking a shot from a thousand yards out who had
real expertise, and you know that could be very dangerous too.
This was the most obvious place to take the most
obvious shot. And so it's stunning that there has been
no accountability yet. And I understand people not trusting the
FBI right now either on given what's going on with Trump.

Speaker 8 (32:25):
Well, and we don't know there, I mean we it's
hard also to imagine and we'll find out more.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
A twenty year old kid, yeah, cooked up this idea
and we almost know nothing about him still for the politics.

Speaker 8 (32:37):
Here, and then orchestrated this entire thing without anybody else
knowing or helping you anyway, it seems.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Very making by the way that this story has come
out today too. Buck the guy had a range finder
and the Secret Service was aware that he was coming
in with a rangefinder. And I saw one of our friends,
Hemmingway said today that she had her like Molly, Molly
Hemingway got her. I saw her tweeting that her little

(33:05):
air mister was taken by the Secret Service. They wouldn't
allow it to be brought in the fact that this
was the arrange find. I mean, he's not on a
golf course. Like, why in the world would somebody be
allowed to bring a range finder to us?

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Again, the political level of incompetence is so bad that
people are going to have a hard time accepting that
it was in competence. But I did want to ask,
because you're in this critical race and we only got
a couple of minutes with you, how's it looking right
now in Pennsylvania. What's the what's the dynamic out there?
I mean, honestly, I feel great about it. Pennsyvany is
tough me. It is tough state because the stakes are

(33:39):
so high. But I think I'm gonna win this race.
And I'm gonna win this race largely because I said
this last night in my speech. This is a race
with a choice between strength and weakness. Strength and weakness
at the top of the ticket with President Trump and
President Biden. If you didn't think it was strength and
weakness before, watch that the Bay performance, and then watch

(34:01):
that performance on the stage when President Trump. This is
what is about at a time when advisaries around the
world are testing us, challenging us, our economies in deep trouble,
wide open border that's creating a fentanyl crisis. The list
goes on and on.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I'm gonna come campaign with you. I'm making a promise again.
We're going to get it officially. Now, we're going to
come to a penn State game, maybe that Ohio State game.
I got to look at your team. We're going to
be there. I want people who are listening right now
in Pennsylvania are just big ten football fans come out.
We're going to have a fun event that we're going
to do. And it's super important that we take back

(34:35):
your Senate seat in Pennsylvania and flip Senate control to
hopefully Donald Trump's team and the Republicans.

Speaker 8 (34:43):
Man, I love your support. Dave MCCORMICKPA dot com is
where people can find out about me. And the thing
I'll say is wherever I gumpuns Vane. It feels like
we're building momentum and a movement because people want to
take the country back. And thank you all for what
you're doing to make that happen.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Thank you, thank you, to appreciate you.

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Speaker 3 (36:02):
Welcome back here to Clay and Buck live at the
r NZ on the floor of Media Row in the auditorium.
And it's a bird, it's a plane. It's Dean Kane. Yes,
here he is.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
No never you're getting called superman good heavens worse? Yeah,
Sir Jin Kane of a Superman on television fame and
also now an out conservative, which must be interesting. As
a former California we have a lot of things ask
you about. I know you're promoting your movie God is
Not Dead, the fifth in the series of that very

(36:38):
successful franchise. But you are a I'm a former New
Yorker now at Floridian. You are a former Californian now
at Nevadada.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
How is that going for you? It's going very very well.

Speaker 9 (36:50):
If you'd told me the first of all, I thought Vegas,
you know, living in Vegas would be insane, but I
live outside of Vegas and I don't go to the
strip like in Maleu. I didn't go to the you know,
Hollywood often, and that's both. So I absolutely love it.
Not to mention that the personal income tax rate is
zero versus fourteen point three in California for the upper earners,

(37:11):
which I am blessed to be an upper earner, so
that's a great thing. Life is so much more simple
for me in Nevada. I love it to death. I
fear they're gonna come and grab me and make me
come back. You know, I feel like Gavin Newsom himself.
Weren't they thinking about doing something with the claw mar On? Yes,
they were, of course they were, because they're hemorrhaging people.

(37:31):
And you know, all the Californians that are listening out
there that love you guys are probably stuck. They probably
can't afford to get out. They make it so expensive
to do anything, and you know, they have put a
match in tax on you if you if you sell
your I saw that.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
I mean, that stuff is crazy.

Speaker 9 (37:45):
Fortunately, Malibu is not part of la so I got
out and that thing didn't affect me.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
But I would have been ticked off.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
So tell me this. I got a lot of friends
in LA because I Fox Sports is based there. I've
spent a lot of time. I was talking with a
buddy recently and he said, Hollywood and l A in
general used to be the place for eccentrics, where different thinkers.
Your dad made the movie Young Guns, which, by the way,
I love, where.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
It may my dad producing direct. I watched that VHS
so many.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Times, every line from that movie from my brothers and
I I did not realize this. I think it's actually
one of the most underrated westerns because it's not part
of that great Clint Eastwood spaghetti western exactly.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Anyway, I'm sorry Young Guns.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Too as well.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
He did not like.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Young Guns. Is you used to have a wide variety
of opinions and worldviews welcomed and that led to great
creative course. When did you start to notice it changing
and turning into a one party state? As a guy
who grew up out there.

Speaker 9 (38:49):
You know, it was a subtle It's the change always
comes very subtly, and I would I would hear that
going on. And you know, when you when you first
become you know, a television star, back in the day anyway,
and probably still the same now as you get a publicist,
and your publicist like you have to have a charity
that you support and you have to have and I
was like, look, I'm twenty five.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
You know. My charity was pay my rent. And I
was like, what do I have to support things? Look?
Can that happen organically? Please? You know? But no, they
were like, they break it down for you.

Speaker 9 (39:15):
So I think I just I guess maybe it was
me getting older when I had a kid. I mean,
when I had a kid, everything the whole world changed
for me because suddenly I wasn't the most important thing
in the world. And I changed everything. But I changed
the movies, I did, the TV shows, I did. Everything changed,
and I became a father. As the reason I stopped
doing a series is because I wanted to be a dad,

(39:36):
so I might my values were changing at the same
time that these things were sort of sneaking in there.
And I you know, obviously COVID, we you know, it
was a huge part of it, but it was happening
before COVID.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
It's been happening for a long time.

Speaker 9 (39:47):
And I realized that, I, you know, when it started
the anti police sort of movement started going everything, I'm
a deputy, I'm a sworn deputy sheriff with with your
last guest, I serve in Virginia.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
I served for him. Oh that's fantastic, one hundred percent.

Speaker 9 (40:02):
So yeah, I'm a fully sworn a deputy sheriff in
in Frederick County, Virginia. I'm I'm a reserve police officer
in Pocatello. I don't these are the values that I
felt were right. So when people did the opposite and
they started going to you know, anti police, writer can
defund the police, I said, you know what I spoke
up against that, They're like, well, you speak up again,
so what is that? I said, all right, then I'll

(40:22):
join and I have and I've been doing that. So
that's just sort of built in my character. But I've
watched it happen. I mean, it's it's accelerating now, like crazy. Yeah,
But but I think there's been a backlash and the
pendulum is swinging back.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
You know, go woke, go broke.

Speaker 9 (40:34):
Is look at the shows and things were put you know,
Hollywood's putting out it's just not you know, that Star
Wars thing isn't doing so well right now, uh, and
that thing is just getting eviscerated.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
I don't even want to watch it, but.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
This is this is what's happening all over the place.
I was wondering, how tell everybody a little bit about
the film, because we've only got you for about another minute. Okay,
I was I was gonna ask you something else about politics,
but actually I.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Was talking about see the God said. That is the
fifth and the franchise.

Speaker 9 (40:59):
The first, first one, God's Not Dead, was ten years ago,
and I played a bad guy in that one, a
guy who didn't have any redemptive qualities, but much like myself, you.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Know, a god.

Speaker 9 (41:11):
Yeah, well he wasn't a communist, he was a capitalist,
and then some really okay, and then some but he
is you know. His fiance tells him, you know, I
got cancer, and he's like, if you can work that out,
then you can come back, you know, But that's not
my problem to deal with.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
He's that kind of a guy. But then they've done
four other or.

Speaker 9 (41:25):
Three other professor of right, he doesn't survive it anyway,
spoiler alert, But my my character.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Comes back in this fifth one.

Speaker 9 (41:35):
It's called God's Not Dead in God We Trust and
and it's it's about a pastor who ends up having
to run for a congressional seat. And then it's the
question about, you know, uh, the separation of church and state,
and where does God belong in in in politics and
in our lives.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
You know, they're they're pushing God.

Speaker 9 (41:51):
I mean, God's not mentioned in the Constitution at all,
but he is mentioned in and and the Declaration of Independence,
the Pledge of Allegiance on your money and God we trust,
and the founders were they believed in God, and it
was a big part of it. And so the question
is how much this and I believe with what President's
gonna tru Trump's gonna say tomorrow night that you know,
God had a hand and turning his head.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
And to finish the question, you've done a lot of
Hollywood shows. How cinematic and unbelievable was Trump's reaction to
surviving the assassination attempt From an actor or perspective, we
talked about it felt like a Hollywood movie.

Speaker 9 (42:29):
If you wrote that, they'd be like, that's too unbelievable,
you know, And and so I can't even put it
into words. That's one of the most powerful things I've
ever seen and it speaks to his character and I
you know, look, I'm a I'm a police officer. I've
been with our military all over the place. People get
shot or shot at, they react very differently. It's like

(42:49):
I was a professional football player before. You know, you
get players, you know, great practice, game time stars, and yeah,
something happens to him and other people just rise up.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
President Trump rose up.

Speaker 9 (43:00):
It was one of the most amazing things I've seen
in that image of him with his hand up, the
flag upside down behind him and blood trickling down his face,
and that face that he made the fight.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
It was a seminal moment.

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