July 16, 2024 • 36 mins
Buck wins a steak dinner bet on Trump's choice of Senator JD Vance as his running mate, which Buck predicted. Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan joins Clay and Buck at the RNC to discuss the Vance choice, the campaign and the Secret Service failure on the Trump assassination attempt. C&B discuss President Trump's dramatic entrance into the RNC. Eric Trump talks to Clay and Buck about the surreal last few days for the Trump family.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Everybody, Tuesday edition of The Clay and Buck Show,
coming to you live from the r NC. We are
right here in the action, seeing everybody and trying to
help make America great once again, I believe, is the
official slogan. A lot of news to get to and
we'll tell you about what was like last night when
(00:21):
Donald Trump, with his ear patched up, walked into an
arena of people went right to their feet and oh my.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We will dive into that.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We also have some updates on just what went wrong
with that assassination attempt on Trump in terms of the
Secret Service failure a few days ago.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
How was it possible that they messed that up so badly?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Unfortunately, with more information it keeps getting worse for them
in terms of the recklessness, in terms of the errors made.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We'll discuss all that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
But the biggest news came out yesterday right after we
went off the air, and it is that we have
a vice president now on the Trump ticket. We know
who the VP is, jd Vance, the vice presidential pick
of Donald Trump, the senator from Ohio.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
This is what it was like yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
This is cut to when the media made the big
announcements The.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
News we have been waiting for throughout the day has
just been made. This is an announcement on truth Social
by former President Trump. He has selected Ohio Senator jd
Vance as his vice presidential pick. We now have the
former president's pick and it is jd Vance, the thirty
nine year old freshman senator from the state of Ohio.
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He has just posted on truth Social that he has
made his selection for.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Vice president and it is jd Vance, the thirty nine
year old senator from Ohio.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
We have breaking news, folks.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
You see on the bottom banner here it appears that
President Trump has picked Ohio Senator jd Vance as his
running made.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
All right, so it is jd Vance.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
We're gonna discuss here what we think that does both
for the ticket and also for the Republican Party going forward.
I will take a brief moment here, Clay a little.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
We we have it. It almost looks like we have
a track. So I'll do a very short victory lap.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I do believe maybe in February or March I was
saying that it would be jd Vance. I did not
waiver from my position in the it will be Vance
bunker for many months and here.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
We are a steak is owed.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I will wait to collect because it's looking like we
may have multiple stakes in the midst What do you think, though,
now that I've had my victory lap that it is Jdvans?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
What do you think about JD as the pick?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
First of all, I'm now minus one on steake bets,
and I'm looking like I'm going to be in a
double steak bet hole because I think Joe Biden is
going to be the nominee. Now Buck Island real estate
is skyrocketing and value with this.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
We're full now, Just so you know, there's no more
lots for sing.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
This is actually the far more impressive pull because you
picked JD. Vans when he was like ten to one,
when nobody was talking about him. I don't remember the
first time that you said it, I said, Tim Scott.
By the way, we're going to be joined here in
a little bit by Jim Jordan, who we actually had
stakes with last night. But I now have to win
if I crew can correct me if I'm wrong. I
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think I have a steak bet with you on lower
turnout than twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Lower total voter turnout twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yes, and that the black mail vote will be twenty
five percent or more for Donald Trump. Yes, so I
have to sweep our steak bets right now in order
to get back to even This is a tough position
to be in. I've dug myself a hole minus two
now minus two on stakes. It looks like say this.
(04:01):
I think it's a really smart play and we're gonna
talk with Jim Jordan about this. Who knows JdE also
from Ohio. But to me, this is a we're gonna
win Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin pick. He thinks that JD. Vans,
who's a very successful author, forty years younger than Trump,
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young family, will connect with that white working class vote.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Only thing bad.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
About him I can say is that he's an Ohio
state Buckeye fan and super smart. I believe will wipe
the floor with Kamala Harris and will basically park himself.
This is my theory of what they're gonna do. Park
him in the Midwest. Recognize that if you take one
of those three states, to say nothing of adding Minnesota
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to the equation, which I think is in play as well.
To me, it's a confident pick. It is a I'm
not going to try to balance the ticket or worry
about the external noise. I want a guy who is smart,
that I can trust, that's going to have my back.
I don't want And you guys know out there, we
had Mike pens on and he won't come back on
the show because I pushed him on whether he would
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give the part in to Trump. It was more like
a shove and he hasn't been back on the show since,
and we've tried to invite him. But if I'm Trump,
given the people that he picked who did not have
his back, I think he is going to be really
focused on competence and loyalty as the top two candidates,
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the criteria for the people that he's picking, and so
in that vein, I think it's smart. You saw it early.
I think they genuinely have affection for each other. You said,
like Trump really likes JD. Vance, like they enjoy hanging out.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
The reason early on that I was able to go
on the record with the pick. I don't know JD well.
I've just interviewed him a couple of times. I think
you and I have had pretty similar experience dealing with
JD in the past. Obviously a super smart guy, a
high wattage guy, and very impressed of life story.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
But I knew that Trump just liked hanging out with him. Yep.
And after four years.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Of being president, I had heard from the inner circle
around Trump that he wants a VP. That when he's
at events and he has to do things, he wants
around me.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
He realizes that this is something of a four year marriage,
if you will, you know, a four year union. And
I think that that's the part of it that really
got a lot of us early on saying it would
be jd. Also, for me, there's a lot of talk
about what would be helpful for Trump. I don't think
Trump needs help on a ticket. I don't think it's
about that. I think it's about having a VP. God forbid.
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We all understand now the original role of a VP.
Why did they create this post this whole idea to
take over in case of so that's you got to
fill that slot first, right, I mean, it's got to
be this is a person who you wouldn't trust to
be commander in chief. And I also think in terms
of the future of the party, JD. Vance is somebody
who the Trump base, the Trump voters have grown to
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like and trust on policy. They like the way he
talks about the economy. He represents the new GOP. So
I I was in a unique position where not only
did I think it would usually I'm like, I think
it like, I think it'll be biting, and I'm like, well,
I don't. My heart's not in it one way or
the other. With JD, I thought he was the best
choice and the likeliest choice. So I think it's a
win for Trump and a win for the GOP all around.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Should we Yeah, let's go ahead and bring in Congressman
Jim Jordan here with us of Ohio. We have had
JD on the show a bunch of times over the
past several years. But you know him really well because
he won a hard fought Ohio Senate race. For people
out there who do not know JD vance, how would
you introduce him to the audience? And do you feel like,
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maybe more importantly, I'm gonna win any steak bets or
is Buck just gonna run the table?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Here?
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Buck's gonna run the table?
Speaker 7 (07:56):
Was a smart guy the h No. I think JD
is American. He's the American story. Yeah, a kid from
the humblest of beginnings to now, I think going to
be vice president of the greatest nation in history, and
he's only forty years old. This is America. I mean,
this is and I think Buck's exactly right. This is
someone President Trump can relate to, likes and and I
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think everything you guys have said I agree with. Never
you know, the old adage never hurts to have smart
people in charge.
Speaker 8 (08:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Yeah, President Trump is one smart guy. You guys have
been around, I've had I've gotten to know him over
the year. One smart jd Vance is one smart guy.
Watched him get on Meet the Press a week ago
Sunday when the left wing press is coming after him,
and he was he handled it so well, right, demeanor right, answers.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
I mean it was just really good.
Speaker 9 (08:44):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
And then there's a political perspective.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
You've said this, Clay, it's a big ten election, yes, right,
And here's a guy from Ohio state who is the
only thing I can.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Say bad about him.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
We're in Wisconsin right now. I know there's a lot
of Badgers who feel that way. I'm a I'm a
Michigan girl. I got you went to Wisconsin that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I kind of say, Jim, I'd never been exposed before
to all the big ten smack talking about SEC until
I came to Milwaukee.
Speaker 7 (09:10):
Now I'm yeah, So I think you know that everyone says,
this is Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin is going to decide this.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
R JD.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
I think is perfect to go talk to the folks
in a in a relatable, powerful way, talk to those
those voters.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And that's but just going to say, that's going to determine,
most likely, I think the outcome in the election overall.
And while there's a lot of there was a lot
of talk, I think about.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well what about it?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You know, And I disagree with this in principle, and
I don't like when Republicans do this, they go, oh
what about a woman, what about a minority? What about
We just want the best people right for everything. Always
a woman, a minority or not doesn't matter, shouldn't matter
to us. And if you actually look at it, I
think what will be the deciding factor in those important
states Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, it's going to be mostly white
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working class voters.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I think that determine the outcome. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
I think I think President Trump has already changed our party.
But I think we're now a party where we always
should have been, where a populist party rooted in conservative principle.
That's where I think the Republican Party should have been.
President Trump and JD. Vans are that. And I think
it's why Ohio, which used to be the belt weather state,
is now trump Republican state. Is that I remember and
(10:21):
it was every now it's he won it by eight
and a half and sixteen, eight and a half and twenty.
I think he's gonna win it by more. And if
he wins it by more, Bernie Marino is our next senator.
I mean that that I think is real helpful.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Is going to be a lot of split voters that
would it would take ten percent basically of voters. If
you're right, and I think you are, that Trump's gonna
win by Ohio by at least two.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
There's gonna be some, But I don't think ten percent. Yeah,
there are gonna be some, and Schery Brown's hoping it's
going to be. But but and he's tough to beat.
But Bernie Marino is a good candidate. I've campaigned with him.
He is good on the stump, and he's a he's
a Jdvance type of guy, young, sharp guy who who
I think relates to relates to the vote.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
I think he can win.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Well, what do you think about that seat that's opened
up now with JD? Or will will be opening up
hopefully with JD.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
Well, Look, I'm well Governor Dewine'll he'll, he'll, He'll pick somebody. Wow,
I have focused on Look, I was in Minneapolis on
Saturday when uh, and when we got the tragic news
of what was what was going on Pennsylvania, campaigning with
with our colleagues. I'm I'm I'm focused on helping Republicans
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win our senator, our senate candidate in Ohio, Dave McCormick's
a great Canada Pensylvania campaign with him. We're trying to
help the candidates win and help President Trump and JD
win at the top of the ticket, and do our
job as chairman of the gistrict community.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
We got a lot of work to do. In fact,
we got Chris Ray coming in front of us next week.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
You're going to stick with us for the next segment.
If that works, okay, we'll come back. We'll continue with you.
I want to ask whether you see uh kind of
a little bit of a teaser here as we go
to break do you think Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania will
move in tandem or do you see those states potentially
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Speaker 4 (13:06):
Welcome back in play Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We are live in
Milwaukee with Congressman Jim Jordan. We had a great dinner
with him last night and I asked this question. We
got a couple of things here to hit you with.
Sixteen Trump wins, breaks the blue Wall, wins, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan,
obviously Ohio your home state, twenty flips back. It seems
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like the only pathway right now if you look at
the map for Biden is to win all three of
those states. Do you think it's likely that all three
of those states move in tandem or do you think
they break up? How do you see it right now?
An email three to have Yeah, this short answers who knows?
Speaker 7 (13:44):
But I do think there's so many similarities in each
In each of those we have a good Senate candidate
running against a long term incumbent Democrat senator who sort
of defied the odds in some ways, like Sheary Brown
in particular. Well, I guess Ohio not the same as Mission,
but but you got.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Similarities in those those those four states.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
I'll say so, I do think there's a chance they
come our way and we all go together. I mean,
right now President Trump's winning, but Georgia and North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan,
wis consent of Arizona's winning everyone, that's right, every swing state, well,
I think it's I think we can win them all.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
We want to put you on the hot seat here
because we love making predictions, and that plays got me
in the prediction mode for all these things now, which
you know I'm not gonna lie. Doing pretty well so far.
But in terms of the House, super thin margin right now,
raising thin margin. We all know that what does in
your mind a great but achievable Republican pickup look like?
Speaker 7 (14:40):
Number wise, Oh, if we could pick up a dozen seats,
that changes everything.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
If a dozen you pick up a dozen, that's high
fives all around. You're happy?
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Yeah, I think so, because I mean, we're just buying unfortunately,
and the way these things get drawn, you know, it's it's,
it's But I think if we could do that, it
makes it much easier to run the House when you
got two or three seat majority, like we've been funk
saying that it's been s been difficult. What are some
of the key races as you see it for some
of your report. We gotta, we gotta, We got to
start to win back some of these suburban seats. We
used to have suburban Chicago seats, suburban Minneapolis seats, suburban
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Kansas City seat, we used to have some of those,
and we got to start winning some of those back. Uh.
And I think in a in a in an interesting
way or maybe different way, but I think Jad helps
us both with working class voters and with with suburb
I think his wife can help us with it. With
you know that that dynamic hill billy elogy. A lot
of women we had hillbilly elogy, but it was great
bull up. You can put it down once you start.
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So I think I think there's a lot of things
that can help us. But we got to start winning
back some of those those type of seats. And we
got two good pickup to opportunities in Ohio were talking
about working called Toledo seat. Marcia Captors had had that
seat for like six hundred years, and we got a
chance to win that with a good candidate. There the
seat in Akron, I think we can win with Kevin Coglin.
So we got we got some seats we can pick
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up in our state.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
FBI this crazy situation that they allowed Trump to be
shot from one hundred and twenty yards away. Now the FBI,
which is trying to put through the Department of Justice
Donald Trump in prison for the rest of his life,
is also simultaneously supposed to be trustworthy and investigative of
what happened there is that tenable? Is that conflict acceptable?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
How in the world?
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Wid I think just the fact you raise it, and
lots of you represent millions of Americans who have that
same skepticism, I think is a concern. And so I
tried to express that yesterday when we got a briefing
yesterday from the FBI ranking member Natal, myself and some
of our staff tried to express that concern I think
is very valid. There's one, in my mind, one fundamental question.
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There's a finite number of buildings in that area where
a bad guy could get on top of and do
what happened. Probably not one hundred building, It is probably
not ten and maybe three, four, five, And one of
those buildings was occupied by the good guys, right, So
how did you not know that the other to say,
three buildings? How were they not secured? Because I'm no
expert in all this, but all the experts I've talked
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to say that was the That was the key problem.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Congressman, I author that that this is a situation where
non experts know anybody knows. Great point you I mean,
I mean if this was a shot taken from a
thousand yards out from behind cover that you know, somebody
who was really good train marksman, you'd say, look, they
got to be able to handle that threat to This
was the most straightforward threat imaginable.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
Yeah, it's the closest building, I think, Yes, the closest proximity.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
If you were picking where where the president would be
in danger from from a shot that wasn't in his
immediate vicinity, it would be the building where they took
the shot.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
I want to talk to the local officer. I'd like
to talk to him, like, yeah, and the one behind
the one and climbed up. Then I also want to
talk to the good guy, uh, the sniper who took
out the bad guy.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, when did you know?
Speaker 6 (17:38):
How did you how many?
Speaker 7 (17:39):
How many minutes or seconds? And you know that, but
that this guy was bad. Those seem to be two
important people we need to talk to. And and again
to your point, the FBI supposedly going to talk to him.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Do we trust it?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:51):
I like I'd like our committee to talk to him.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, I agree, I would to Congress and Jim Jordan, everybody, Congressman.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Always good to see you.
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Thank you, guys, thanks so much.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck Live from the r
NC Day two. I've got to tell you seeing a
lot of your favorite Republicans here for really, all of
them much and it's a fun and exciting and electric
atmosphere in general. But nothing can compare so far to
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what it was like in the main arena last night
when President Donald Trump, the forty fifth and we certainly
hope soon to be forty seventh President of the United States.
I just want to tell you he walked in and
you could see right away the bandage on his ear, because,
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as we know, he survived miraculously an assassination attempt just
a few days ago. And yet Trump refused to back
off of his schedule, refuse to change anything because of
that madman who tried to do something so catastrophic and
horrific for the country. Trump has overcome Trump is it.
(20:01):
It's amazing to watch. I'll just tell you this is
what it sounded like last night in that arena as
he walked in and you had Lee Greenwood playing God
Bless the USA, and.
Speaker 9 (20:10):
Gentlemen, please welcome the next President of the United States,
Donald J. Trumpet.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Now, I just want to say Clay being in there
and the reaction to everybody, not just when Trump walked
in the visual of seeing him walking with that wound
on his ear, but just his presence, his calm, and
the sense of purpose with which he moves the aura
(20:58):
of destiny around him.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
It was a remarkable thing to watch. It was America
on steroids to have. I love Lee Greenwood. We've had
him on this show a bunch of times. My dad,
I bet who's listening right now if you asked him,
one of the coolest things that he's ever seen at
a sporting venue. And there are people out there who
will remember this. I was a little kid. I remember
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watching on television Lee Greenwood in the eighties is when
that song took off, and it really kind of took
off in with eighty eight, eighty five, eighty six he's
saying at the Sugar Bowl between Tennessee and Miami, and
the roof just came off of that place down in
New Orleans. And I've loved Lee Greenwood ever since he's
eighty one years old. I didn't realize Lee Greenwood was
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that age. And when he is singing that song and
Trump walks out, it was an electric factory inside of
that arena, and I thought, I'm curious if you agree, Trump,
and I think it may well factor into the address
that he says he's rewriting for Thursday. It's forty eight
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hours at that time since Trump came within an inch
of dying. For Trump, he seems somber and reflective in
maybe a way that we're not used to seeing Trump.
And we'll talk with Eric Trump here in just a
couple of minutes about whether he sees this with his
dad as well, that he came that close to death.
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And when you have people who have come close to
death and they have had that moment, there's a contemplation
and a reflection that often sets in. And I think
we may see on Thursday a Trump that is a
different version of Trump than what we have seen before.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Did you feel that a little bit the way he
walked in?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
And I know it's so interesting to see this because
a lot of people are understandably so so just outraged
and angry about what happened. The Trump response to this, though,
and you can feel it, and the energy is we
are going to move forward and we are going to
(23:14):
unify this country to do great things. Yeah, we're not
going to dwell on what this madman tried to do,
and we're not going to you Now, Trump, no one
has to tell him to fight the rhetoric.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Of the left. He does that every day, Breaking news
on sevent to ten WR.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Jeff McKinney influ WR Newsroom. And we suddenly have a verdict.
A jury here in Manhattan has reached a verdict in
their third day of deliberations in the bribery trial of
Senator Bob Menendez. Senator Menendez, of course, is accused of
accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes in form
of cash, gold bars, and a Mercedes convertible in exchange
(23:52):
for using his influence. So we got a verdict. Now
when it's going to be read, we're not sure, but
we're watching it very closely. As soon as we get
the verdict, as soon as we know it is, will
pass it along to you. Now it's back to Clay
and Buck.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
It has to change someone's perspective on life. Trump in
a sense now is almost in a in a second phase.
There's a sense of a of a rebirth, I think
of his purpose of the campaign and of what he's
trying to accomplish.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I also think there's an element there has to be
of the belief that you have a guardian angel on
your shoulder, and the sense almost that you're walking with destiny.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Does that make sense? I mean, how could you not
feel invincible at some level? Both you know you're humbled
by it, but there's also a sense and this is
invincible in terms of the destiny, invincible in terms of this,
there's a higher purpose, a higher purpose, a higher power
projecting forward. Clay, He's been through multiple impeachments. He's been
through now, multiple criminal indictments. He's been convicted. They've they've
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tried to brand him as a trader, they've considered locking
him up, and now they've taken a shot at his head,
and he has politic more powerful than he's ever been.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
We're going to be joined by Donald Trump's son, Eric
Trump here when we come out of the next break,
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Speaker 4 (26:37):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Join now
by Eric Trump. And we were just talking about your
dad's the way that he walked into the RNC last night.
You were there, you saw it. But I want to
start because I said I was going to ask you
this question. You got two young kids, six year old,
four year old. He's grandpa to your kids, while he
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may'll be the next president of the country again, where
were you when you saw what happened at the rally.
What was your reaction and what has your dad been
We had him on the show Friday. He was fantastic,
But what has he been like so that you've seen
him in the last seventy two hours basically since that happened.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Yeah, Well, I was saying, they're watching with my kids
on the couch, and you know, the shots broke.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I'm a shooter.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I know that sounds very very well, and my heart sank, right,
I mean, obviously you see him go down, you see
grab his head, he goes down, and then you know
at that point he's behind the stanchions, those you know
sanches up front, which you know are meant to take bullets,
but obviously they're coming in from from high all secret
service agents, you know, jump on him, and you know, frankly,
there's a good chance he was dead. It literally, I mean,
it's divine intervention. What doever we want to call it? Right,
I'm not a Mushi guy, but it's I mean that
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bullet literally graced his ear. It took off part of
his ear. Like you don't get closer to death than
that in life. Had he not turned up the last second,
he would have been dead, and so my heart sank.
Obviously he came up. You know, there's blood all over
the face, blood on the side of the you know.
So again we didn't know if he got to hit
the torso we didn't, you know, know, how he was doing.
And then he put up his hand and he said,
fight by fight.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
And what was it like to see your dad in
that moment? I can't even describe for everyone else. It's
probably the most iconic political moment of any of our lives.
And I've never seen people so fired off, so joyous,
you know, to go from that the low which you
just described, Oh my god, what have they done? You know,
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what has happened to Trump, to your dad, to he's okay?
And also this guy is like Leonidas in three hundred
or something, and it was amazing.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Yeah, no question.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Then to go to the even higher of that, right,
I mean, obviously he gets up, but we still don't
know he's okay. He's being rushed to the emergency room
and you know, all sorts of vehicles with machine guns
all over him and everything else. I mean, it was
But then exactly forty eight hours later, I was the
delegate from Florida so cast the deciding vote that made
him the Republican nominee to President of the United States,
And I looked at Laura last night, I said, I
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don't think there's ever been kind of its dichotomy of
two sides. I mean, he punched in the stomach thinking
he was possibly dead on the ground with Secret Service
agents lying on top of him, to obviously making him
the Republican nominee, to then seeing him walk into the
convention last night, the first time he's really been seen
since that shooting, and there was kind of a somberness
to him last night, you know, And.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
We think he walks with an aura of destiny. That's
what we've been saying. That's what it feels like as
an observer. I can't imagine when it's like being as
close to it as you are, with your dad being
the guy who is the guy I've seen a time
and time again over the last eight years. Is the
way that Pinsulim has shifted, right. I mean every single time,
there's no question that there's somebody's hand on him, and
you know, somebody's watching down and protecting him. But that
was way too close and it shouldn't have happened. It
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should have never happened. And let's I give a lot
of credit to the Secret Service agents on that stage, right,
I mean, people are trying to take shots at everybody.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
I know, those agents, and these are people who love him,
adore him. The female and that you know in that
picture that's become very famous. She was with me for
three years when I had Secret Service. One of the kindest,
nicest but by the way best shooters in the Secret Service,
because I shoot with all those guys. And I mean,
she's she's as good as it comes. And I can
only imagine how that crushed her soul as somebody failed
on the outside and allowed that to happen. Somebody let
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an assault rifle within one hundred and fifty yards of
the president of the United States. That's a chip shot, right,
that should have never happened before. I mean, it's yeah,
I'm sure you saw last night.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
They asked Joe Biden, we basically were there going to
be any consequences, and he said, I talked to him
evidently forgetting that he has a female head of the
Secret Service. Is there any doubt in your mind that
she should go just based on how big of a
failure that was to allow that to occur.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
It is the greatest failure I think in the history
of our government. And I'm not putting that on the
agents on stage again. I would do anything for those guys.
Let me just reiterate your listeners. They are the greatest people.
They were willing to take a bullet for him. And
had it not been for the Counterciper teams and I've
shot with those guys and they're the real deal. They're
they're the best of the best.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
You know.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Had it not been for there, you would have had
dead agents on that stage as well. You would have
had a dead former president, a dead future president, and
you would have had dead agents on that stage had
not been for the CS guys. But somebody really screwed
the booch on this one. They really really messed up
and it should not have happened. I mean, it is
a failure. And the fact that Biden didn't know, but listen,
I had the Secret Service came from Pepsi. I mean,
whyouldn't you come from PEPSI. I mean that seems like
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a guys, this country needs to change. It's it's insane.
I mean, all this DEI stuff is it's just insane.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Do you, I mean you would know this?
Speaker 10 (31:15):
Do you?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Your dad?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
The top people around advising him. Are you already thinking
about who's going to go? Everyone talks about secretary of State.
There's certain roles, right that people play this parlor game.
If you will, look where they're going to go. No
one ever thinks of Secret Service director. I know it's
under DHS, but people don't think of necessarily some of
those agency positions. But having been to the big dance,
so to speak, once as the president, and having been
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there by your dad as he did it, are you
already thinking about that next tier, especially on the security
national security side of things. Who can clean these places up?
Because the culture is I mean I can speak from
the CIA side. I have a lot of friends still
in there. The culture is messed up. It's not just
people are making mistakes.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
You better believe that's gonna be his number one priority
on day one is cleaning house in the shops that
are just out of control. I mean, listen, I thought
the whole Russia hoax in Vescich. I was the guy
that got the phone call, right, I got the call
from New York Times, the Washington Post. I hear there
are secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower that
are communicating directly with the Kremlin. I go, first of all,
we're like a cloud based company, so we don't have server.
(32:14):
Second of all, you don't put servers and basements because
basement's flood. So let's just start the office. And they
let that crap go on for three years. They pitted
two nuclear superpowers against each other for the sake of
trying to get Hillary an extra three votes. All right,
let's be honest with who these people are. They knew
it was a sham day one, and they let it
go on and hang over the presidency. That's how bad
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it is. Believe me, this problem will be taken care
of on day one. He knows the bad, he knows
the good. He knows how the system works, he knows
how the system has targeted him. And you better believe me,
they'll get cleaned up. And you better believe me there'll
be there'll be changes made in that organization.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
As a sun somebody takes a shot at my dad
and they say the FBI is investigating the same FBI
that is trying to put my dad in prison for
the rest of his life. Don't you have to be
sitting there saying, how in the world can we trust
any of the government apparatus that is surrounding him right
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now even to try to figure out this assassination story
how it happened.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
It's so corrupt.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
I mean, that was what I would think as a
sun that has to be going through your mind all
the time.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
As he started this wholi sharade by spying on his campaign. Yes,
and he said it, and then on sixteen minutes say no, no, no,
how do you have any proof because they're spying on
my campaign. I'm telling you the spying on my pay
Sure enough, they were obviously spying on his campaign. No,
aren't have any trust it. Neither does the country. And
by the way, I've got a couple buddies who are
FBI agents. The greatest people you'll ever meet in your
entire life, right, I mean, this isn't This isn't the
gun carriers. These are the people who are going after
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organized crime, right. These are the people on the top
floor of those you know, very fancy buildings that they said.
And it's so different than the Secret Service, the people
that are actually carrying the guns and doing the job
in the Secret Service, best people you'll ever meet. You
go to the eighth floor in Washington, DC, and I
would say the exact opposite. I'm not actually sure if
they have his best interest in mind, and that hurts
my soul to say I will protect the field agents,
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you know. I mean many of these guys are some
of my closest friends. They would do anything for me.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I did one ass.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Since we're talking personnel, obviously, the JD. Van's announcement is
a big deal. Some of us saw it coming. But
months ago Clay owes me a stake and we're going
to go out you know that place in Miami where
they have like the gold case and smoke and whatever.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
You're trying.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
All of it, the theatrics. That's where Clay's gonna take me.
We're you have to put a little steak bib on me,
the whole thing. So even great, but JD Vance were
very pleased about this. I thought it was a great pick.
Claythics it's a good pick, and he's happy that it's
gone down that way. There's some reporting out there that
it came down to the wire, though, and now that
the reveal has happened and it's clear and it's done.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
And JD's the guy.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
They're saying that you and your brother Don Junior, who
we both know well, that you guys basically were like
team JD and a critical push at the end to
make this happen. Can you can you confirm or deny
that that's how this went down?
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Yeah, listen, I'm I'm a guy who wants DGT to
go with his gut. You know, there's there's people I
really liked, and all the people were mentally competent. They're
they're great, they're great people as hard you know, Ruby
had a little bit of a Florida problem, and it's
kind of hard to have, you know, two people from
the same state, obviously, but it amazingly qualified as is
as is the governor obviously. But Jade's great. The chemistry
that those guys have is amazing. You know, he's been
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his own success in business, as you guys know better
than anybody. He's kind of quickly rose the political ladder,
you know, very similar to my father, right, Yeah, massively
successful in business clothes, you know, Rose the political ladder.
He's got a lot of fire. He's gonna be incredible
in the russ Belt. He's incredibly well respected. Awesome story.
He's willing to go into enemy territory, and most Republicans
aren't a right. I mean, I just at all all
the CNN's and everything else any Sunday show. He can
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do anything, you know what, most people aren't. I am Donnis.
He is, but most people are going to try and
camp out on the friendlies and you know you're kind
of trying to get their message out. We don't need
that right now. We need somebody to.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Really last question for you here as we figured out
one minute one minute here, you have a six year
old to four year old. Your dad as a grandfather
is what kind of grandfather compared to what kind of
dad he was?
Speaker 5 (36:04):
He's amazing.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
He showed up my daughters.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
It was grandfather like, you know, a good granddaughter day
at school, and so no one knew he was coming obviously,
you know, the head of the school day because of
the Secret Service. And he shows up there and my
daughter just burst into tears, ran up to him, gi
him the Das huts. So awesome, and the video literally
went viral. It's you know, him holding this delicate little
hand as a former president walking into kind of this
grandfather's day and it was just amazing. He's an amazing grandfather.
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He's an amazing guy. I couldn't ask for a better
father and guys. Frankly, I wouldn't take all the arrows
that I did if he wasn't the greatest guy in
the world. I will fight till the end of time
for the man. He's not such a great job. With
our family, none of us have ever broken, none of
us have brought. I mean, you see the difference between
the Bidens and us. We do we talk about it
actually and
Welcome in Everybody, Tuesday edition of The Clay and Buck Show,
coming to you live from the r NC. We are
right here in the action, seeing everybody and trying to
help make America great once again, I believe, is the
official slogan. A lot of news to get to and
we'll tell you about what was like last night when
(00:21):
Donald Trump, with his ear patched up, walked into an
arena of people went right to their feet and oh my.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We will dive into that.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We also have some updates on just what went wrong
with that assassination attempt on Trump in terms of the
Secret Service failure a few days ago.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
How was it possible that they messed that up so badly?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Unfortunately, with more information it keeps getting worse for them
in terms of the recklessness, in terms of the errors made.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We'll discuss all that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
But the biggest news came out yesterday right after we
went off the air, and it is that we have
a vice president now on the Trump ticket. We know
who the VP is, jd Vance, the vice presidential pick
of Donald Trump, the senator from Ohio.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
This is what it was like yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
This is cut to when the media made the big
announcements The.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
News we have been waiting for throughout the day has
just been made. This is an announcement on truth Social
by former President Trump. He has selected Ohio Senator jd
Vance as his vice presidential pick. We now have the
former president's pick and it is jd Vance, the thirty
nine year old freshman senator from the state of Ohio.
(01:47):
He has just posted on truth Social that he has
made his selection for.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Vice president and it is jd Vance, the thirty nine
year old senator from Ohio.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
We have breaking news, folks.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
You see on the bottom banner here it appears that
President Trump has picked Ohio Senator jd Vance as his
running made.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
All right, so it is jd Vance.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
We're gonna discuss here what we think that does both
for the ticket and also for the Republican Party going forward.
I will take a brief moment here, Clay a little.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
We we have it. It almost looks like we have
a track. So I'll do a very short victory lap.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I do believe maybe in February or March I was
saying that it would be jd Vance. I did not
waiver from my position in the it will be Vance
bunker for many months and here.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
We are a steak is owed.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I will wait to collect because it's looking like we
may have multiple stakes in the midst What do you think, though,
now that I've had my victory lap that it is Jdvans?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
What do you think about JD as the pick?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
First of all, I'm now minus one on steake bets,
and I'm looking like I'm going to be in a
double steak bet hole because I think Joe Biden is
going to be the nominee. Now Buck Island real estate
is skyrocketing and value with this.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
We're full now, Just so you know, there's no more
lots for sing.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
This is actually the far more impressive pull because you
picked JD. Vans when he was like ten to one,
when nobody was talking about him. I don't remember the
first time that you said it, I said, Tim Scott.
By the way, we're going to be joined here in
a little bit by Jim Jordan, who we actually had
stakes with last night. But I now have to win
if I crew can correct me if I'm wrong. I
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think I have a steak bet with you on lower
turnout than twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Lower total voter turnout twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yes, and that the black mail vote will be twenty
five percent or more for Donald Trump. Yes, so I
have to sweep our steak bets right now in order
to get back to even This is a tough position
to be in. I've dug myself a hole minus two
now minus two on stakes. It looks like say this.
(04:01):
I think it's a really smart play and we're gonna
talk with Jim Jordan about this. Who knows JdE also
from Ohio. But to me, this is a we're gonna
win Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin pick. He thinks that JD. Vans,
who's a very successful author, forty years younger than Trump,
(04:22):
young family, will connect with that white working class vote.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Only thing bad.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
About him I can say is that he's an Ohio
state Buckeye fan and super smart. I believe will wipe
the floor with Kamala Harris and will basically park himself.
This is my theory of what they're gonna do. Park
him in the Midwest. Recognize that if you take one
of those three states, to say nothing of adding Minnesota
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to the equation, which I think is in play as well.
To me, it's a confident pick. It is a I'm
not going to try to balance the ticket or worry
about the external noise. I want a guy who is smart,
that I can trust, that's going to have my back.
I don't want And you guys know out there, we
had Mike pens on and he won't come back on
the show because I pushed him on whether he would
(05:10):
give the part in to Trump. It was more like
a shove and he hasn't been back on the show since,
and we've tried to invite him. But if I'm Trump,
given the people that he picked who did not have
his back, I think he is going to be really
focused on competence and loyalty as the top two candidates,
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the criteria for the people that he's picking, and so
in that vein, I think it's smart. You saw it early.
I think they genuinely have affection for each other. You said,
like Trump really likes JD. Vance, like they enjoy hanging out.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
The reason early on that I was able to go
on the record with the pick. I don't know JD well.
I've just interviewed him a couple of times. I think
you and I have had pretty similar experience dealing with
JD in the past. Obviously a super smart guy, a
high wattage guy, and very impressed of life story.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
But I knew that Trump just liked hanging out with him. Yep.
And after four years.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Of being president, I had heard from the inner circle
around Trump that he wants a VP. That when he's
at events and he has to do things, he wants
around me.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
He realizes that this is something of a four year marriage,
if you will, you know, a four year union. And
I think that that's the part of it that really
got a lot of us early on saying it would
be jd. Also, for me, there's a lot of talk
about what would be helpful for Trump. I don't think
Trump needs help on a ticket. I don't think it's
about that. I think it's about having a VP. God forbid.
(06:40):
We all understand now the original role of a VP.
Why did they create this post this whole idea to
take over in case of so that's you got to
fill that slot first, right, I mean, it's got to
be this is a person who you wouldn't trust to
be commander in chief. And I also think in terms
of the future of the party, JD. Vance is somebody
who the Trump base, the Trump voters have grown to
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like and trust on policy. They like the way he
talks about the economy. He represents the new GOP. So
I I was in a unique position where not only
did I think it would usually I'm like, I think
it like, I think it'll be biting, and I'm like, well,
I don't. My heart's not in it one way or
the other. With JD, I thought he was the best
choice and the likeliest choice. So I think it's a
win for Trump and a win for the GOP all around.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Should we Yeah, let's go ahead and bring in Congressman
Jim Jordan here with us of Ohio. We have had
JD on the show a bunch of times over the
past several years. But you know him really well because
he won a hard fought Ohio Senate race. For people
out there who do not know JD vance, how would
you introduce him to the audience? And do you feel like,
(07:48):
maybe more importantly, I'm gonna win any steak bets or
is Buck just gonna run the table?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Here?
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Buck's gonna run the table?
Speaker 7 (07:56):
Was a smart guy the h No. I think JD
is American. He's the American story. Yeah, a kid from
the humblest of beginnings to now, I think going to
be vice president of the greatest nation in history, and
he's only forty years old. This is America. I mean,
this is and I think Buck's exactly right. This is
someone President Trump can relate to, likes and and I
(08:19):
think everything you guys have said I agree with. Never
you know, the old adage never hurts to have smart
people in charge.
Speaker 8 (08:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Yeah, President Trump is one smart guy. You guys have
been around, I've had I've gotten to know him over
the year. One smart jd Vance is one smart guy.
Watched him get on Meet the Press a week ago
Sunday when the left wing press is coming after him,
and he was he handled it so well, right, demeanor right, answers.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
I mean it was just really good.
Speaker 9 (08:44):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
And then there's a political perspective.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
You've said this, Clay, it's a big ten election, yes, right,
And here's a guy from Ohio state who is the
only thing I can.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Say bad about him.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
We're in Wisconsin right now. I know there's a lot
of Badgers who feel that way. I'm a I'm a
Michigan girl. I got you went to Wisconsin that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I kind of say, Jim, I'd never been exposed before
to all the big ten smack talking about SEC until
I came to Milwaukee.
Speaker 7 (09:10):
Now I'm yeah, So I think you know that everyone says,
this is Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin is going to decide this.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
R JD.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
I think is perfect to go talk to the folks
in a in a relatable, powerful way, talk to those
those voters.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And that's but just going to say, that's going to determine,
most likely, I think the outcome in the election overall.
And while there's a lot of there was a lot
of talk, I think about.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well what about it?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You know, And I disagree with this in principle, and
I don't like when Republicans do this, they go, oh
what about a woman, what about a minority? What about
We just want the best people right for everything. Always
a woman, a minority or not doesn't matter, shouldn't matter
to us. And if you actually look at it, I
think what will be the deciding factor in those important
states Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, it's going to be mostly white
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working class voters.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I think that determine the outcome. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
I think I think President Trump has already changed our party.
But I think we're now a party where we always
should have been, where a populist party rooted in conservative principle.
That's where I think the Republican Party should have been.
President Trump and JD. Vans are that. And I think
it's why Ohio, which used to be the belt weather state,
is now trump Republican state. Is that I remember and
(10:21):
it was every now it's he won it by eight
and a half and sixteen, eight and a half and twenty.
I think he's gonna win it by more. And if
he wins it by more, Bernie Marino is our next senator.
I mean that that I think is real helpful.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Is going to be a lot of split voters that
would it would take ten percent basically of voters. If
you're right, and I think you are, that Trump's gonna
win by Ohio by at least two.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
There's gonna be some, But I don't think ten percent. Yeah,
there are gonna be some, and Schery Brown's hoping it's
going to be. But but and he's tough to beat.
But Bernie Marino is a good candidate. I've campaigned with him.
He is good on the stump, and he's a he's
a Jdvance type of guy, young, sharp guy who who
I think relates to relates to the vote.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
I think he can win.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Well, what do you think about that seat that's opened
up now with JD? Or will will be opening up
hopefully with JD.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
Well, Look, I'm well Governor Dewine'll he'll, he'll, He'll pick somebody. Wow,
I have focused on Look, I was in Minneapolis on
Saturday when uh, and when we got the tragic news
of what was what was going on Pennsylvania, campaigning with
with our colleagues. I'm I'm I'm focused on helping Republicans
(11:24):
win our senator, our senate candidate in Ohio, Dave McCormick's
a great Canada Pensylvania campaign with him. We're trying to
help the candidates win and help President Trump and JD
win at the top of the ticket, and do our
job as chairman of the gistrict community.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
We got a lot of work to do. In fact,
we got Chris Ray coming in front of us next week.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
You're going to stick with us for the next segment.
If that works, okay, we'll come back. We'll continue with you.
I want to ask whether you see uh kind of
a little bit of a teaser here as we go
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move in tandem or do you see those states potentially
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Speaker 4 (13:06):
Welcome back in play Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We are live in
Milwaukee with Congressman Jim Jordan. We had a great dinner
with him last night and I asked this question. We
got a couple of things here to hit you with.
Sixteen Trump wins, breaks the blue Wall, wins, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan,
obviously Ohio your home state, twenty flips back. It seems
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like the only pathway right now if you look at
the map for Biden is to win all three of
those states. Do you think it's likely that all three
of those states move in tandem or do you think
they break up? How do you see it right now?
An email three to have Yeah, this short answers who knows?
Speaker 7 (13:44):
But I do think there's so many similarities in each
In each of those we have a good Senate candidate
running against a long term incumbent Democrat senator who sort
of defied the odds in some ways, like Sheary Brown
in particular. Well, I guess Ohio not the same as Mission,
but but you got.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Similarities in those those those four states.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
I'll say so, I do think there's a chance they
come our way and we all go together. I mean,
right now President Trump's winning, but Georgia and North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan,
wis consent of Arizona's winning everyone, that's right, every swing state, well,
I think it's I think we can win them all.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
We want to put you on the hot seat here
because we love making predictions, and that plays got me
in the prediction mode for all these things now, which
you know I'm not gonna lie. Doing pretty well so far.
But in terms of the House, super thin margin right now,
raising thin margin. We all know that what does in
your mind a great but achievable Republican pickup look like?
Speaker 7 (14:40):
Number wise, Oh, if we could pick up a dozen seats,
that changes everything.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
If a dozen you pick up a dozen, that's high
fives all around. You're happy?
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Yeah, I think so, because I mean, we're just buying unfortunately,
and the way these things get drawn, you know, it's it's,
it's But I think if we could do that, it
makes it much easier to run the House when you
got two or three seat majority, like we've been funk
saying that it's been s been difficult. What are some
of the key races as you see it for some
of your report. We gotta, we gotta, We got to
start to win back some of these suburban seats. We
used to have suburban Chicago seats, suburban Minneapolis seats, suburban
(15:10):
Kansas City seat, we used to have some of those,
and we got to start winning some of those back. Uh.
And I think in a in a in an interesting
way or maybe different way, but I think Jad helps
us both with working class voters and with with suburb
I think his wife can help us with it. With
you know that that dynamic hill billy elogy. A lot
of women we had hillbilly elogy, but it was great
bull up. You can put it down once you start.
(15:31):
So I think I think there's a lot of things
that can help us. But we got to start winning
back some of those those type of seats. And we
got two good pickup to opportunities in Ohio were talking
about working called Toledo seat. Marcia Captors had had that
seat for like six hundred years, and we got a
chance to win that with a good candidate. There the
seat in Akron, I think we can win with Kevin Coglin.
So we got we got some seats we can pick
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up in our state.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
FBI this crazy situation that they allowed Trump to be
shot from one hundred and twenty yards away. Now the FBI,
which is trying to put through the Department of Justice
Donald Trump in prison for the rest of his life,
is also simultaneously supposed to be trustworthy and investigative of
what happened there is that tenable? Is that conflict acceptable?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
How in the world?
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Wid I think just the fact you raise it, and
lots of you represent millions of Americans who have that
same skepticism, I think is a concern. And so I
tried to express that yesterday when we got a briefing
yesterday from the FBI ranking member Natal, myself and some
of our staff tried to express that concern I think
is very valid. There's one, in my mind, one fundamental question.
(16:34):
There's a finite number of buildings in that area where
a bad guy could get on top of and do
what happened. Probably not one hundred building, It is probably
not ten and maybe three, four, five, And one of
those buildings was occupied by the good guys, right, So
how did you not know that the other to say,
three buildings? How were they not secured? Because I'm no
expert in all this, but all the experts I've talked
(16:56):
to say that was the That was the key problem.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Congressman, I author that that this is a situation where
non experts know anybody knows. Great point you I mean,
I mean if this was a shot taken from a
thousand yards out from behind cover that you know, somebody
who was really good train marksman, you'd say, look, they
got to be able to handle that threat to This
was the most straightforward threat imaginable.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
Yeah, it's the closest building, I think, Yes, the closest proximity.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
If you were picking where where the president would be
in danger from from a shot that wasn't in his
immediate vicinity, it would be the building where they took
the shot.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
I want to talk to the local officer. I'd like
to talk to him, like, yeah, and the one behind
the one and climbed up. Then I also want to
talk to the good guy, uh, the sniper who took
out the bad guy.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, when did you know?
Speaker 6 (17:38):
How did you how many?
Speaker 7 (17:39):
How many minutes or seconds? And you know that, but
that this guy was bad. Those seem to be two
important people we need to talk to. And and again
to your point, the FBI supposedly going to talk to him.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Do we trust it?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:51):
I like I'd like our committee to talk to him.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, I agree, I would to Congress and Jim Jordan, everybody, Congressman.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Always good to see you.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Thank you, guys, thanks so much.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck Live from the r
NC Day two. I've got to tell you seeing a
lot of your favorite Republicans here for really, all of
them much and it's a fun and exciting and electric
atmosphere in general. But nothing can compare so far to
(19:15):
what it was like in the main arena last night
when President Donald Trump, the forty fifth and we certainly
hope soon to be forty seventh President of the United States.
I just want to tell you he walked in and
you could see right away the bandage on his ear, because,
(19:36):
as we know, he survived miraculously an assassination attempt just
a few days ago. And yet Trump refused to back
off of his schedule, refuse to change anything because of
that madman who tried to do something so catastrophic and
horrific for the country. Trump has overcome Trump is it.
(20:01):
It's amazing to watch. I'll just tell you this is
what it sounded like last night in that arena as
he walked in and you had Lee Greenwood playing God
Bless the USA, and.
Speaker 9 (20:10):
Gentlemen, please welcome the next President of the United States,
Donald J. Trumpet.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Now, I just want to say Clay being in there
and the reaction to everybody, not just when Trump walked
in the visual of seeing him walking with that wound
on his ear, but just his presence, his calm, and
the sense of purpose with which he moves the aura
(20:58):
of destiny around him.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
It was a remarkable thing to watch. It was America
on steroids to have. I love Lee Greenwood. We've had
him on this show a bunch of times. My dad,
I bet who's listening right now if you asked him,
one of the coolest things that he's ever seen at
a sporting venue. And there are people out there who
will remember this. I was a little kid. I remember
(21:20):
watching on television Lee Greenwood in the eighties is when
that song took off, and it really kind of took
off in with eighty eight, eighty five, eighty six he's
saying at the Sugar Bowl between Tennessee and Miami, and
the roof just came off of that place down in
New Orleans. And I've loved Lee Greenwood ever since he's
eighty one years old. I didn't realize Lee Greenwood was
(21:43):
that age. And when he is singing that song and
Trump walks out, it was an electric factory inside of
that arena, and I thought, I'm curious if you agree, Trump,
and I think it may well factor into the address
that he says he's rewriting for Thursday. It's forty eight
(22:05):
hours at that time since Trump came within an inch
of dying. For Trump, he seems somber and reflective in
maybe a way that we're not used to seeing Trump.
And we'll talk with Eric Trump here in just a
couple of minutes about whether he sees this with his
dad as well, that he came that close to death.
(22:29):
And when you have people who have come close to
death and they have had that moment, there's a contemplation
and a reflection that often sets in. And I think
we may see on Thursday a Trump that is a
different version of Trump than what we have seen before.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Did you feel that a little bit the way he
walked in?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
And I know it's so interesting to see this because
a lot of people are understandably so so just outraged
and angry about what happened. The Trump response to this, though,
and you can feel it, and the energy is we
are going to move forward and we are going to
(23:14):
unify this country to do great things. Yeah, we're not
going to dwell on what this madman tried to do,
and we're not going to you Now, Trump, no one
has to tell him to fight the rhetoric.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Of the left. He does that every day, Breaking news
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A jury here in Manhattan has reached a verdict in
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(23:52):
for using his influence. So we got a verdict. Now
when it's going to be read, we're not sure, but
we're watching it very closely. As soon as we get
the verdict, as soon as we know it is, will
pass it along to you. Now it's back to Clay
and Buck.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
It has to change someone's perspective on life. Trump in
a sense now is almost in a in a second phase.
There's a sense of a of a rebirth, I think
of his purpose of the campaign and of what he's
trying to accomplish.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I also think there's an element there has to be
of the belief that you have a guardian angel on
your shoulder, and the sense almost that you're walking with destiny.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Does that make sense? I mean, how could you not
feel invincible at some level? Both you know you're humbled
by it, but there's also a sense and this is
invincible in terms of the destiny, invincible in terms of this,
there's a higher purpose, a higher purpose, a higher power
projecting forward. Clay, He's been through multiple impeachments. He's been
through now, multiple criminal indictments. He's been convicted. They've they've
(24:52):
tried to brand him as a trader, they've considered locking
him up, and now they've taken a shot at his head,
and he has politic more powerful than he's ever been.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
We're going to be joined by Donald Trump's son, Eric
Trump here when we come out of the next break,
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it like to see your dad come that close to death.
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Speaker 4 (26:37):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Join now
by Eric Trump. And we were just talking about your
dad's the way that he walked into the RNC last night.
You were there, you saw it. But I want to
start because I said I was going to ask you
this question. You got two young kids, six year old,
four year old. He's grandpa to your kids, while he
(26:59):
may'll be the next president of the country again, where
were you when you saw what happened at the rally.
What was your reaction and what has your dad been
We had him on the show Friday. He was fantastic,
But what has he been like so that you've seen
him in the last seventy two hours basically since that happened.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Yeah, Well, I was saying, they're watching with my kids
on the couch, and you know, the shots broke.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I'm a shooter.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I know that sounds very very well, and my heart sank, right,
I mean, obviously you see him go down, you see
grab his head, he goes down, and then you know
at that point he's behind the stanchions, those you know
sanches up front, which you know are meant to take bullets,
but obviously they're coming in from from high all secret
service agents, you know, jump on him, and you know, frankly,
there's a good chance he was dead. It literally, I mean,
it's divine intervention. What doever we want to call it? Right,
I'm not a Mushi guy, but it's I mean that
(27:43):
bullet literally graced his ear. It took off part of
his ear. Like you don't get closer to death than
that in life. Had he not turned up the last second,
he would have been dead, and so my heart sank.
Obviously he came up. You know, there's blood all over
the face, blood on the side of the you know.
So again we didn't know if he got to hit
the torso we didn't, you know, know, how he was doing.
And then he put up his hand and he said,
fight by fight.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
And what was it like to see your dad in
that moment? I can't even describe for everyone else. It's
probably the most iconic political moment of any of our lives.
And I've never seen people so fired off, so joyous,
you know, to go from that the low which you
just described, Oh my god, what have they done? You know,
(28:23):
what has happened to Trump, to your dad, to he's okay?
And also this guy is like Leonidas in three hundred
or something, and it was amazing.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Yeah, no question.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Then to go to the even higher of that, right,
I mean, obviously he gets up, but we still don't
know he's okay. He's being rushed to the emergency room
and you know, all sorts of vehicles with machine guns
all over him and everything else. I mean, it was
But then exactly forty eight hours later, I was the
delegate from Florida so cast the deciding vote that made
him the Republican nominee to President of the United States,
And I looked at Laura last night, I said, I
(28:53):
don't think there's ever been kind of its dichotomy of
two sides. I mean, he punched in the stomach thinking
he was possibly dead on the ground with Secret Service
agents lying on top of him, to obviously making him
the Republican nominee, to then seeing him walk into the
convention last night, the first time he's really been seen
since that shooting, and there was kind of a somberness
to him last night, you know, And.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
We think he walks with an aura of destiny. That's
what we've been saying. That's what it feels like as
an observer. I can't imagine when it's like being as
close to it as you are, with your dad being
the guy who is the guy I've seen a time
and time again over the last eight years. Is the
way that Pinsulim has shifted, right. I mean every single time,
there's no question that there's somebody's hand on him, and
you know, somebody's watching down and protecting him. But that
was way too close and it shouldn't have happened. It
(29:33):
should have never happened. And let's I give a lot
of credit to the Secret Service agents on that stage, right,
I mean, people are trying to take shots at everybody.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
I know, those agents, and these are people who love him,
adore him. The female and that you know in that
picture that's become very famous. She was with me for
three years when I had Secret Service. One of the kindest,
nicest but by the way best shooters in the Secret Service,
because I shoot with all those guys. And I mean,
she's she's as good as it comes. And I can
only imagine how that crushed her soul as somebody failed
on the outside and allowed that to happen. Somebody let
(30:00):
an assault rifle within one hundred and fifty yards of
the president of the United States. That's a chip shot, right,
that should have never happened before. I mean, it's yeah,
I'm sure you saw last night.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
They asked Joe Biden, we basically were there going to
be any consequences, and he said, I talked to him
evidently forgetting that he has a female head of the
Secret Service. Is there any doubt in your mind that
she should go just based on how big of a
failure that was to allow that to occur.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
It is the greatest failure I think in the history
of our government. And I'm not putting that on the
agents on stage again. I would do anything for those guys.
Let me just reiterate your listeners. They are the greatest people.
They were willing to take a bullet for him. And
had it not been for the Counterciper teams and I've
shot with those guys and they're the real deal. They're
they're the best of the best.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
You know.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Had it not been for there, you would have had
dead agents on that stage as well. You would have
had a dead former president, a dead future president, and
you would have had dead agents on that stage had
not been for the CS guys. But somebody really screwed
the booch on this one. They really really messed up
and it should not have happened. I mean, it is
a failure. And the fact that Biden didn't know, but listen,
I had the Secret Service came from Pepsi. I mean,
whyouldn't you come from PEPSI. I mean that seems like
(31:07):
a guys, this country needs to change. It's it's insane.
I mean, all this DEI stuff is it's just insane.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Do you, I mean you would know this?
Speaker 10 (31:15):
Do you?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Your dad?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
The top people around advising him. Are you already thinking
about who's going to go? Everyone talks about secretary of State.
There's certain roles, right that people play this parlor game.
If you will, look where they're going to go. No
one ever thinks of Secret Service director. I know it's
under DHS, but people don't think of necessarily some of
those agency positions. But having been to the big dance,
so to speak, once as the president, and having been
(31:37):
there by your dad as he did it, are you
already thinking about that next tier, especially on the security
national security side of things. Who can clean these places up?
Because the culture is I mean I can speak from
the CIA side. I have a lot of friends still
in there. The culture is messed up. It's not just
people are making mistakes.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
You better believe that's gonna be his number one priority
on day one is cleaning house in the shops that
are just out of control. I mean, listen, I thought
the whole Russia hoax in Vescich. I was the guy
that got the phone call, right, I got the call
from New York Times, the Washington Post. I hear there
are secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower that
are communicating directly with the Kremlin. I go, first of all,
we're like a cloud based company, so we don't have server.
(32:14):
Second of all, you don't put servers and basements because
basement's flood. So let's just start the office. And they
let that crap go on for three years. They pitted
two nuclear superpowers against each other for the sake of
trying to get Hillary an extra three votes. All right,
let's be honest with who these people are. They knew
it was a sham day one, and they let it
go on and hang over the presidency. That's how bad
(32:34):
it is. Believe me, this problem will be taken care
of on day one. He knows the bad, he knows
the good. He knows how the system works, he knows
how the system has targeted him. And you better believe me,
they'll get cleaned up. And you better believe me there'll
be there'll be changes made in that organization.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
As a sun somebody takes a shot at my dad
and they say the FBI is investigating the same FBI
that is trying to put my dad in prison for
the rest of his life. Don't you have to be
sitting there saying, how in the world can we trust
any of the government apparatus that is surrounding him right
(33:10):
now even to try to figure out this assassination story
how it happened.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
It's so corrupt.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
I mean, that was what I would think as a
sun that has to be going through your mind all
the time.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
As he started this wholi sharade by spying on his campaign. Yes,
and he said it, and then on sixteen minutes say no, no, no,
how do you have any proof because they're spying on
my campaign. I'm telling you the spying on my pay
Sure enough, they were obviously spying on his campaign. No,
aren't have any trust it. Neither does the country. And
by the way, I've got a couple buddies who are
FBI agents. The greatest people you'll ever meet in your
entire life, right, I mean, this isn't This isn't the
gun carriers. These are the people who are going after
(33:40):
organized crime, right. These are the people on the top
floor of those you know, very fancy buildings that they said.
And it's so different than the Secret Service, the people
that are actually carrying the guns and doing the job
in the Secret Service, best people you'll ever meet. You
go to the eighth floor in Washington, DC, and I
would say the exact opposite. I'm not actually sure if
they have his best interest in mind, and that hurts
my soul to say I will protect the field agents,
(34:01):
you know. I mean many of these guys are some
of my closest friends. They would do anything for me.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I did one ass.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Since we're talking personnel, obviously, the JD. Van's announcement is
a big deal. Some of us saw it coming. But
months ago Clay owes me a stake and we're going
to go out you know that place in Miami where
they have like the gold case and smoke and whatever.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
You're trying.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
All of it, the theatrics. That's where Clay's gonna take me.
We're you have to put a little steak bib on me,
the whole thing. So even great, but JD Vance were
very pleased about this. I thought it was a great pick.
Claythics it's a good pick, and he's happy that it's
gone down that way. There's some reporting out there that
it came down to the wire, though, and now that
the reveal has happened and it's clear and it's done.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
And JD's the guy.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
They're saying that you and your brother Don Junior, who
we both know well, that you guys basically were like
team JD and a critical push at the end to
make this happen. Can you can you confirm or deny
that that's how this went down?
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Yeah, listen, I'm I'm a guy who wants DGT to
go with his gut. You know, there's there's people I
really liked, and all the people were mentally competent. They're
they're great, they're great people as hard you know, Ruby
had a little bit of a Florida problem, and it's
kind of hard to have, you know, two people from
the same state, obviously, but it amazingly qualified as is
as is the governor obviously. But Jade's great. The chemistry
that those guys have is amazing. You know, he's been
(35:19):
his own success in business, as you guys know better
than anybody. He's kind of quickly rose the political ladder,
you know, very similar to my father, right, Yeah, massively
successful in business clothes, you know, Rose the political ladder.
He's got a lot of fire. He's gonna be incredible
in the russ Belt. He's incredibly well respected. Awesome story.
He's willing to go into enemy territory, and most Republicans
aren't a right. I mean, I just at all all
the CNN's and everything else any Sunday show. He can
(35:42):
do anything, you know what, most people aren't. I am Donnis.
He is, but most people are going to try and
camp out on the friendlies and you know you're kind
of trying to get their message out. We don't need
that right now. We need somebody to.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Really last question for you here as we figured out
one minute one minute here, you have a six year
old to four year old. Your dad as a grandfather
is what kind of grandfather compared to what kind of
dad he was?
Speaker 5 (36:04):
He's amazing.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
He showed up my daughters.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
It was grandfather like, you know, a good granddaughter day
at school, and so no one knew he was coming obviously,
you know, the head of the school day because of
the Secret Service. And he shows up there and my
daughter just burst into tears, ran up to him, gi
him the Das huts. So awesome, and the video literally
went viral. It's you know, him holding this delicate little
hand as a former president walking into kind of this
grandfather's day and it was just amazing. He's an amazing grandfather.
(36:28):
He's an amazing guy. I couldn't ask for a better
father and guys. Frankly, I wouldn't take all the arrows
that I did if he wasn't the greatest guy in
the world. I will fight till the end of time
for the man. He's not such a great job. With
our family, none of us have ever broken, none of
us have brought. I mean, you see the difference between
the Bidens and us. We do we talk about it
actually and
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