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July 15, 2024 36 mins
Clay and Buck discuss the massive failure by the Secret Service allowing Trump assassination attempt. Wisconsin Senate Candidate Eric Hovde stops by the C&B set in Milwaukee to discuss his race against incumbent Democrat Tammy Baldwin and his take on Trump's VP. Trump turning VP pick into a show.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now live
from the r n C. Clay and I are here
in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and we'll be joined by lots and
lots of guests, power players in the Republican Party all
week long, so we're going to get deep into the politics.
We've got an expected announcement tonight from Donald Trump of

(00:20):
his VP. There's also a lot of speculation about his
speech and about the way forward for the Republican Party.
So that's all coming up and we will be bringing
that to you as we said here, plus we'll be
joining various other shows and live streaming and all kinds
of things. Last hour, we discussed just as an update,
that one of the federal cases against Donald Trump has

(00:42):
been dismissed by the judge, A big breaking news item
that just broke today, but still by far even as
we sit here at the r NC. What is I
think most in the minds of the American people, Clay,
is what we witnessed on video over the weekend. I
know people are overwhelmingly up to date on the basics

(01:03):
of what happened, but we want to get into some
of the details of where the investigation stands now, who's
in charge of it? And also how the heck could
this have happened. We had President Trump in Pennsylvania over
the weekend and he's at an outdoor rally and a
lone gunman gets on a rooftop about four hundred feet

(01:28):
away from the President, takes multiple shots and is able
to hit the President's ear almost killed the President right
there on national TV, which would have created not only
a political catastrophe beyond I think anyone's ability to reckon
for what the future of this nation would be like.

(01:49):
Also a great man, a father, a husband, a hero
to millions of Americans would have been lost. So we
are blessed beyond words at the good fortune, at the
divine intervention. Many ways we can describe what happened, but
it's incredible that he's not just that he survived, that

(02:10):
he's fine, that he's fine, but there were others they
are unstable condition now, who were taken to the hospital.
And there was one individual who lost his life who
was killed by this gunman, Clay the Secret Service, And
I said this right away on Saturday, Megan Kelly was
kind enough to have me on her breaking coverage of
this is a massive failure. They have one real job, right, Yes,

(02:36):
they can investigate counterfeiting, and there's some other things that
fall into their investigative authorities, threats against the president, meaning
online threats, things like that. But their real job is
to prevent an assassination of President Trump. And here's where
I have to start this analysis. If you had a

(02:59):
civili I mean I had some basic training from the
CIA and a whole range of things. But if you
had a civilian in charge of that, and I mean
somebody with no law enforcement or military training whatsoever, told
you need to secure this site, they would know, Yeah,
you can't let people with guns or weapons get near
a principle in this case the individual being protected.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
But they would have cleared that rooftop.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Now we find out that they didn't clear the rooftop,
that they knew the individual was there for a few minutes.
This is all on video, so you don't have to
take our words for it. This isn't just opinion. And
he was able to get off a few aimed shots
at President Trump on that stage, it was just divine

(03:46):
intervention that he wasn't hit. That is not a difficult
shot in terms of the distance at all. Anybody who
has any familiarity with shooting will tell you that. And Clay,
I think when you look at the Secret Service, the
first question that I turned and there's so much I know,
people have so many different angles on this. This is
the most obvious form of assassination attempt that I think

(04:07):
they could have possibly been faced with. My God, imagine
if some actually more sophisticated entity had tried this or
would try this in the future. The Secret Service looks
awful based on what has happened here.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Buck, It's a bigger failure than the Kennedy assassination. Based
on what we know. No one was pointing at Lee
Harvey Oswald minutes before he shot from Dallas Vially Plaza.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
No one saw him with a gun.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
And I understand some of you are going to say
there's multiple people shooting, but let's just leave it at
Oswald right now. We had for minutes people at that
rally screaming, there's a guy with a friggin gun on
the roof of a white building that could readily and
easily be seen by many of the video that you

(05:01):
have all seen. The sniper team in theory was looking
at him and took him out only after he fired
the shots, which means they completely failed in their job too.
It's great that President Trump is okay, thank the ward

(05:21):
that that shot narrowly avoided killing him. But the fact
that you allowed that guy to take a shot is
the biggest security failure for a president, certainly since JFK.
And I would argue again, to my knowledge, nobody was saying, hey,
there's a guy with a gun aiming at Kennedy right

(05:44):
now before Kennedy was shot. So this is worse, I think,
than what happened in nineteen sixty three.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well, I mean, the president was killed in nineteen seventy three.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
But that is a function not of what the Secret
Service did.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
They allowed. This is on the scale. The scale of
the failure is worse.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
The result certainly is better, but we didn't control the
fact that the guy's gonna miss or that it's gonna
nick his ear. They didn't know that Oswald or whoever
else was shooting at Kennedy on that day. The police
and the Secret Service were notified by patriots who saw
this and said do something, and they still let the

(06:24):
guy shoot.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
It's it's a stunning failure, and there's no way around that.
And I understand that the first impulse that we often
have on the right is oh, well, thank heavens for
the Secret Service. That's not really actually what the first
reaction to this should be. I'm not impugning any individual agent,
any individual individual agent's courage or patriotism or willingness to

(06:49):
put their life on the line, but as an entity,
as an organization, you know, nobody after nine to eleven
was saying, oh, well, the CIA did a did a
great job, right, I mean, and and so there's a
little bit of that afterwards, which I think was just
that's reflexive. When people think about this more, they have
more of an understanding of what our expectations are of
Secret Service. And I understand there's so much here. People

(07:11):
are going to be talking about this forever. Why is
it that the gunman we know so a little about him.
Why is it that there's nothing about him on social media?
Apparently he's a loner, he was bullied, he tried to
join a rifle club.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Everyone thought that he was weird.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
He was apparently a really bad shot, which is why
they said he couldn't join the rifle club. But the
rules of engagement not allowing for an imminent threat to
a pre to the president.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
And keep in mind someone died because of.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
The secretary or in critical condition because they're stay failure.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
But yes, yes, and so it's not like near miss
for the president. But everything was okay. Someone died. There's
a person who's you know, family is never going to
be able to be made whole because of this lapse
by Secret Service and the other you know, affiliated law
enforcement there. But the truth is Secret Service calls the shots.
Secret Service as the blame. That is the fundamental reality

(08:02):
of this. Having been in the CIA, I know this
from you know, if you are if you have primacy
on an issue and there is a massive national security failure,
you don't get to say, well, we all kind of
had some involvement. If you have primacy, if it is
your call, if you are calling the shots, at the
end of the day, you are the one that has
to face the music for it. And I haven't even

(08:23):
gotten into how long President Trump was kept on that
stage after the shots rang out. Yes, the obvious the
visuals of not fit female Secret Service agents seeming to
not know what to do, not able to fully cover
the president, and people say, oh, they're throwing their bodies.

(08:44):
Thankfully they're all wearing body armor, so yes, they're taking
a risk. But one of the reasons why they create
that protective shield is because they know that chances are
they're they're going to be less likely to you know,
they're armored up basically under those under those jackets, under
their shirts. So the fact that they were slow in
getting him out of there was also a problem. But

(09:08):
you can't get you can't have a shooter with no
real tactical training, with nothing other than just the psychotic
desire to murder a president be able to get armed
rifle shots from a roof within a few hundred feet
of a president and an outdoor rally, and think that
the Secret Service is honestly worth anything.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Everybody should be fired who was involved in that security management.
And this is me saying it as a you know, layman.
The number one place to secure is an elevated target
within view of the president.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Like this is me the most obviously, if you've watched movies,
if you've seen In the Line of Fire with Clint Eastwood, right,
if you've seen at.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Least that guy was like a skilled assassin in the movie.
By the CIA.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
This is, for all intents and purposes, a loser, twenty
year old with limited training who was able to almost
alter the course of world history because of so many
series of colossal screws.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
And for those of us who have had exposure to
Secret Service in the years past, which I have both
in DC and the you know, I've been in the
Oval Office numerous times, and just do there's a lot
of like, would you stand back, sir? I mean, they're
very officious, even with people who are clearly no threat,
and the President wants to see and knows that, and
I know they're gonna say, we have our procedures, we

(10:28):
have our procedures. Okay, you're allowed to say we have
our procedures and be very uh, you know, officious about
the whole thing if you get the big stuff right.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, but but don't don't give me this. You know,
you'll stand back, stand back, and all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
When you're at like a you know, ten thousand dollars
a person fundraiser and the Secret Service happens to be
there and they know everybody who's there, and they've already
been vetted, and then you let somebody take rifle shots
at a president in the most clay.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
It was the most obvious.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Observation position to take a shot from elevated ground, the
closest and the most obvious.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
And now there's a.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Report that the law enforcement, local law enforcement got up
there and saw the guy and didn't engage and just ran.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Off the roof.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
And then you had the swat guy with him in
his sights and didn't engage until the shots are taken.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
You know, if the rules of engagement.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Are first they get to shoot at the president and
then our guys get to shoot back.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Well, what good is the Secret Service?

Speaker 5 (11:30):
No?

Speaker 4 (11:30):
And I'm a big believer when I'm saying, when I'm
comparing it to JFK, I'm a big believer in don't
analyze the results. Sometimes you get dumb luck, right, and
all fasts the Service got lucky when it comes to
you're lucky. Yeah, sometimes, like you know, you can run
the ball on third and twenty and pop a big
run in football, And it wasn't the right play call, right,

(11:52):
they allowed, with the processes and protocols in place, Donald
Trump to come within a fraction of an inch of
being assassinated in cold blood on live television in four
k think about what that would look like.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
What could be a bigger disaster by the way, I
mean when you think in terms of the Secret Service
and the the the obligation that they have, the you know,
the oath that they swear to to to protect uh
and you know, to protect the president and to protect
the principles that are under their care.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Uh, this was as bad a lapse as it could
really be.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Even when you talk about something like the the attempted
assassination of Reagan where you know where he hit but
he survived. That was an ambush. From a look, they
should have scattered out better clue. That was a lapse
as well. But it wasn't a guy in broad daylight
taking the most obvious possible position, taking his time setting
up a rifle shop, pointed out from pointed out by
random people saying, Hey, there's a guy up there with

(12:48):
a gun and no one doing anything, and the squat
team looking at him through a scope or.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Not squat whatever they were.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Uh, you know, there's a special response and that they
had up there, the counter sniper team.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
I don't know how much worse it could be.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
That's why I'm comparing it to the JFK. Yes, JFK
was killed. This was a situation where Trump could have
been killed, and we would think about how the conversation
would be going right now if all of these videos
came out of all these people saying Trump is there's
a guy with a gun. There's a guy with a gun,
and he had hit Trump in the head and killed him.
I don't know that the country would ever recover from

(13:21):
how big of a screw up this is because it
was self evident that the shot was coming and we
didn't stop it. Unlike with JFK or unlike with Ronald Reagan,
nobody said, hey, that guy's got a gun, he's aiming
at the president, and then that guy was allowed to shoot.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
It was a bigger failure in terms.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Of allowing the shot to be taken than anything that
anyone who is alive today has ever experienced.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
I think with the president of the United States, If.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
An untrained twenty year old psychopath on his first try
could put a bullet through the President's ear, what the
hell is a Secret Service doing?

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Do you know what I mean? I mean they failed
at their most basic job.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
This isn't I think when was the last time there
was even an attempt on a president's life. A serious
attempt at a president's life has been a long time
eighty one. I think that we know, forget it. This
is where we get into the fixation on DEI. The
out of shape female agents, the some of the male agents,
secret service agents, not moving very quickly, not looking like
they even knew what to do to get him. Evact

(14:25):
out of there. I mean, Trump came out of this
looking like Leonidas in three hundred. But the people around him,
who are supposed to be incredibly sharp, incredibly fit, and
incredibly tactically aware, made a mess of the whole thing
leading up to you, during and after the attempt on
the president's life. And you know, look, I understand why
people there are a lot of people play right now.

(14:46):
You'll never be You'll never be able to convince them
that this was just one guy doing this thing without
anybody else aware of anything. I don't know what to say,
because it's a little bit like telling people, you know, yeah,
Epstein hung himself. The cameras were out. The guys, I'll asleep.
He's the only person to ever be killed in the
MCC in Manhattan. And that's just deal with it, you
know what, I mean, just just accept.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
All of that.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
The only two options as we go to break here
are this was gross criminal negligence to allow this shooting
to occur, the nearly assassination of the president gross criminal negligence.
That is, I can see someone being prosecuted for failing here,
or it was intentional.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Those are the only two options.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
They intentionally let something like this happen, which I even
to think of is terrifying, or it was gross criminal negligence.
Those are the only two options. We'll talk about more
on this. Also, take some of your calls. Aeric Covedy,
who we hope is going to be the next Senator
from Wisconsin, scheduled to join us here in a little
bit over ten minutes from now, so he will be

(15:48):
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Speaker 3 (17:15):
Quick turn here.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Martha McCollum just tweeted breaking Doug Burgham jd Vance, Marco Rubio,
Glenn Youngkin all in Milwaukee, and we are hearing that
all are still awaiting President Trump's tap on the shoulder
Apprentice vibes anyone that's from Martha McCollum. Interesting because he
told us on Friday Trump did buck Hey, it's a

(17:39):
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now he's got all four. Theoretically, he has not announced
what the nominee is going to be.

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(18:47):
strong at the RNC. We had a senator in the
last hour.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
We have a soon to.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Be senator in this hour. Eric Hovevey is with us here.
He is running in Wisconsin, So no pressure, Eric. But
if you lose, the Democrats may have Senate control, which
will put a huge, huge wrench into the gears for
Trump transforming the country and doing amazing things. If you win, well,
you're gonna win. Tell us why we're here in Wisconsin.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
I'm gonna win because Senator Baldwin is one of the
most extreme liberals who votes with Joe Biden.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Ninety five point five percent of the time.

Speaker 7 (19:22):
She spent her entire life in politics, literally forty years.
She takes all kinds of special interest money. She's way
out there on a social spectrum. I mean, she actually
earmarked our tax payer dollars to a transgender clinic to
affirm kids that are doing that without notifying their parents.

(19:43):
Now think of that. It's crazy, and that's our tax dollar.
So look, I'm out there talking about issues that matter. Inflation,
the costs of everybody's food, insurance costs, you name it,
energy prices, housing costs going up. I'm talking about the border,
the fact we are losing a hundred thous young people
to fentanyl every year, the terrorist risk, the crime issues,

(20:05):
all the issues that matter to the people of Wisconsin.
So you know, I'm staying on the issues. I'm working
my butt off. I need all the help I can get.
So you listeners, Wisconsin is it. That's why we're in
this great state. If President Trump wins the state, he's
got the presidency. If I win the Senate seat, we
got control of the Senate, not just for two years,

(20:26):
but probably four, maybe even six.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
We spent yesterday with your hopeful soon to be Senate colleague,
Ron Johnson and he was walking through how you win Wisconsin.
He just won two years ago in a tough market
twenty twenty two where they spent a lot of money
against him. He's been outspoken on so many different issues. Frankly,
both Buck and I believe he's been right on COVID

(20:48):
almost better than anybody else has.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
And we particularly love him because he comes on the
show and references previous shows that he was just listening to.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
So he's by.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
The way, you will be loved forever by any radio host.
Like I heard you talking last week about anyway, go ahead,
clat you are.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
What he said is you have to go to all
the communities. You said, you just finished a big tour.
What are you hearing when you go out into the
quote unquote real world. We're in Milwaukee now, it's great.
It's a city, but the heartbeat of Wisconsin is not
in Milwaukee. It's in the community surrounding Milwaukee to a
large extent.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
What are you hearing from them?

Speaker 7 (21:24):
Look, a lot of the issues I just talked about,
if you talked to wisconsinights and I did my RV tour,
Literally I drove sixteen hundred miles. We went all the
way up the east coast to the north, all the
way down the west, and drove all throughout the middle
part of the state.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
You meet a lot of wonderful people. What are the
issues that matter?

Speaker 7 (21:44):
They're getting hammered by inflation, Real wages have gone down
under Joe Biden. So I don't care if it's food,
if it's energy, it's whatever.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
People are being hammered.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
An older man stood up and said, I'm spending more
and more in my life is getting worse, and that's
just a reality. Second, the border and all what I
call it, the rotten onion, the different layers of it,
the crime problems, the terrorist risk problems, the fent andel crisis.
They can't account for one hundred thousand children. And I
you know, I'm because my foundation and rescuing children out

(22:20):
of the sex trade and what I do both in
this country and around the world.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I know that subject all too well.

Speaker 7 (22:25):
A lot of those children have ended up in the
sex trade, which is disgusting that the other issues that
people are talking about healthcare. I wish Republicans would talk
about this more. The access to healthcare is collapsing, the
costs is just continuingly rising, and you know, present Obama
when he passed Obamacare, said oh, this will mitigate costs.

(22:46):
It has done nothing like that. He said you'd be
able to keep your family doctor. The family doctor has
all but disappeared. So, you know, healthcare is a big issue.
And then if you're in a city like Milwaukee, becuz
of the defund the police movement and the open border, crime.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Is such a huge issue.

Speaker 7 (23:06):
I spend a lot of time in the black community,
the Hispanic communities, and they'll tell you I did a
picnic in the park and literally people were coming up
and saying, we need the National Guard called out. I mean,
it's crazy and it's sad. I mean, Milwaukee's a great city.
As you can see. It's a little humid right now.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
We well know, yeah yeah, but it's supposed to clear out.
But you know, it's a beautiful. It's a fun city.

Speaker 7 (23:32):
I mean summerfest, burers, games, bucks, all the rest. But
you know, it's been hammered by crime. So that's another
big talking issue.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Now for anybody who is perhaps favorable toward Trump now
talking about wisconsinights, but it's thinking to themselves.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well, you know, yeah, Trump, but I don't know. I've
heard of Tammy Baldin for a long time. So you know,
maybe I just split ticket voters.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Do you feel like that's a thing that could be
an issue here in this state? And if it is,
how would you convince them to come over to your
side of the aisle.

Speaker 7 (24:07):
There will be a very small amount of people that
may do that because Senator Baldwin is a good chameleon.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
She runs in the.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
State as a moderate to her first ad, believe it
or not, was talking about how she, you know, worked
a piece of legislation with President Trump. Now that's the
same woman who we literally video is going viral right
now of her talking about Donald Trump being one of
the most dangerous men that he cannot be made president.

(24:38):
I mean again, she's a progressive socialist, So I don't
think it's gonna be a big number, if it is
a number at all.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
But you know, she does a good job, as you
know at PAS both sides. Yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
So you're here to tell everybody that you know, she
she tells wisconsinance, don't worry, I'm normal.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
I'm just like you. Then she goes to DC and
she's a comedy.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
The rest of them, Yeah, oh, one hundred percent and Frankly,
she lives a good chunk of her time up in
New York with her partner who's a wealth manager to
the uber wealthy and the private equity set. And yet
she rails on Wall Street. She takes money from Wall Street.
Her girlfriend is, you know, the heart of Wall Street.
But you know she comes back here and says, Oh,

(25:21):
I'm fighting against Wall Street.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
It's just she's dripping with hypocrisy.

Speaker 7 (25:26):
Somebody's been doing an ad, probably supporting Mike cam campaign,
calling her Tammy two face.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
That is a perfect definition of who Tammy Baldwin is.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
We're talking with hopefully the next Senator from Wisconsin, Eric Hovedy.
The Vice president is the talk of the day. Reports
are that tonight at the convention, Trump is going to
bring out as Vice president.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
What do you think is going to happen? How would
you analyze this?

Speaker 4 (25:52):
The final four according to Martha McCollum, Doug Bergham, Marco Rubio,
Glenn Youngkins sliding in there maybe a little bit by surprise,
and than jd Vance. Of those four, how would you
assess the decision and how much do you think the
VP pick matters, particularly coming on the heels of certainly
an assassination attempt, which feels like, I mean, it's a

(26:13):
lot of things.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's also an important reminder for the power and the
need for a I mean, rather the power of a
strong VP pick and the need for a VP pick.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (26:23):
And look, President Trump will only have one more term
as president, so this is a huge pick.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
To me.

Speaker 7 (26:30):
The most important thing is that whoever he picks, and
all four gentlemen meet this test, that there's confidence that
that person can step up and be the president of
the United States. That's the problem that the Biden administration has.
Not only has he lost his marbles and is incapable
to do it, but nobody has confidence in Kamala Harris.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
So you know, look, we're just talking about Governor Bergman.
I think he'd be a great guy. He built a
fantastic great planes.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Uh where do you think it's gonna be Doug Bergram.
I'm I'm thinking it is. I'm thinking it is a
lot of callers.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
The way we get people that are Burgram people, But
I will tell you this, we also get North Dakotans
who say he's a little squishy on some of the issues,
and he's a little bit of a moderate Oh I
could we could have you sit here and just take
calls the next how wow from North Dakotans who are
like he wasn't.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Good on COVID And I'm just saying that we always
get the heat when you have these finalists.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
It's not only people advocating for their guy, because it
does look like the final four are all guys.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
They throw elbows at everybody else.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
So it's like you're not even saying like somebody might
call in and say, I'm a JD.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Van's guy. They don't say that. They're like, this is
why I can't guys Rhino. I'm like, wait, I thought
I thought we're all in the nest. I thought it
was the trust Tree. We're all friends.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
So I mean you mean politics is a context. It
gets a little dasting speak at a contact sports. By
the way, we're gonna be with you. We cannot wait
to help you directly. We're gonna be in Madison, Wisconsin.
We're doing the show live on September thirteenth, I believe,
the Friday before Alabama Wisconsin in Madison. You are a

(28:11):
diehard Badger fan. How much are you looking forward to
that game?

Speaker 4 (28:15):
I hear that it's already like kind of bedlam for
that weekend, even trying to get hotel rooms, places to stay.
It's gonna be madness. It's gonna be fantastic. That is
gonna be fantastic. Gonna see there because he's never been
to a Big Have you ever been to a Big
ten football game ever?

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Unless you've taken me to it.

Speaker 7 (28:34):
I've been to Look, and I'm not saying this just
because I'm Big ten. The Big Ten are by far
the best football experiences some of the SEC.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
But the the SEC.

Speaker 7 (28:46):
But I'll let all the size of the stadiums. Look,
I can't stand Michigan, but you go into that house,
you go into Ohio State, the vibe, all the rest,
you will love Camp Randall and you're gonna love how
it's set up in a community, and the bars and
the brats and all the rest. I mean, you guys

(29:06):
are gonna absolutely have I can't I can't wait. So
it's and Madison's a beautiful, beautiful city.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
So yeah, we're gonna do it.

Speaker 7 (29:14):
From the top of one of the buildings I own
there that has this fantastic.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
View with the hair like a special cheer like scratch
him like a badger or something like.

Speaker 7 (29:23):
No, you just you just better be ready to jump
around at the end of the third call this.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
No, you know the song jump around? I've heard. Yes,
I grew up in the nineties. I know it jumps.
So tell them about this.

Speaker 7 (29:36):
At the end of the third quarter, they play jump
around and literally everybody tire Stity Stadium is just jumping
and jamming, and even the players down there, even the
opposing team players sometimes do it.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
It's funnier than I'll get out.

Speaker 7 (29:52):
So yeah, no, you guys better be ready to drink
some because you know us Wiscon's Knights know how to drink.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
I mean we're professional drink just hail or how pain
jump a reci Oh we'll get thank you nineties.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
You just so we're gonna be ready to drink.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
You know what we just had Buck just at his
first I had I didn't know that Wisconsin had a
special kind of old fashion.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Well, I didn't know that you guys had your own care.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Here he talks smack about min julips before we went
to ky.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
I'm a huge fan of an old fashion, but I
really know Wisconsin version.

Speaker 7 (30:25):
I look, I just did a funny video of doing
a brandy old fashion, which is what most wisconsinight's and
certainly what I grew up drinking. And now a lot
of people drink bourbon ol fashions, which I've moved to.
But yeah, we have a little our own unique way
of doing it. But this is the home of the
old fashion. Frankly, per capita, I think we probably drink

(30:45):
more than any steal.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Wisconsin drinks more alcohol than any state in the country.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Start to hold here from what I understand.

Speaker 7 (30:53):
In the windy you know, you gotta learn how to
be experts at the indoor sports, and.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
That you know how I can do snowshoeing sometime with
Whinning's the Senator.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
We'll go snowshoeing with the Senator September in Madison. Will
be beauty. It's going to be incredible. It will be beautiful.

Speaker 7 (31:10):
Look, it'll probably be seventy two degrees blue sky.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
It's gonna be fantastic.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
Unfortunately, we just got a really rainy, stormy summer this summer.
It's supposed to clear up, but man, did you see
that lightning last Oh yeah, last night, it was crazy.
It was a big ass storms roll in when people
got deluge.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
They were coming into the hotel like everybody was out
walking because it's hard to move around in cars, and
it looked like they, I mean, the Heaven's completely opened
up on them.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
We had a lot of you know, I just thrown
this out there. Usually Clay says this, but I like
to say it too. We're number one in Milwaukee on
the radio at this time, Thank you. Wisn so get
a lot of people listening in this state, and we
got other stations throughout the state too. But we're here
in Milwaukee. Where should folks go? Because I think, so
go with Huvedy, So go with the Senate. That's really
I'm just gonna I'm gonna put my marker down right now.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
I love it, buck, I love it.

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Please contribute, man, I need everybody's help. Here we go,
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Speaker 4 (33:30):
Welcome back, in Clay Travis buck Sexton show You Know
What's crazy Buck Is Saturday, we had the first time
that a president has been shot since nineteen eighty one.
It's an iconic, historic moment, and the news cycle moves
so rapidly that this morning, Eileen Cannon dismisses the classified

(33:54):
docs case in South Florida, and now all of the
discussion has amazingly pivoted from Trump's unbelievable, brave, courageous, iconic
reaction to being shot to nearly dying to oh my goodness,
who is the VP pick going to be? With the
announcement coming tonight, the news cycle is just moving at

(34:18):
such a frenzied rate that I feel like if I
don't check my phone during commercial breaks, we're going to
miss some major breaking news element. It's really unbelievable how
rapidly all of this can change and shift.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yes, I mean, we already were expecting there to be
a lot of news that would break this week, not
only just the VP but the direction that Trump was
planning to take the final months of the campaign. When
you add into it the events of the past weekend,
plus the events of this morning with the dismissal of
the Trump documents case. Things are moving very, very rapidly.

(34:54):
But I think once you have the announcement of the VP,
and let me just put out there, we want to
take some of your calls on this just as a
last last gasp of debate on the best VP issue.
Our friend Eric Hovey there just saying he thinks that
it's going to be Doug Berghm. I've wondered a lot
of you North Dakodins have been calling in if we

(35:16):
got some North Dakotain listeners that have some insight on
Bergham who has been your governor, We're curious. But if
there's anyone that you think is by far the best
VP candidate, we wanted to get that into the mix
here before we finally know who it is, which looks
like it's going to happen tonight. So Clay, do you
also think it is going to be Jdvans. I mean,

(35:38):
you've given me credit for at least maybe being right
on that one.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
So here's the only reason I would think it's not
jd Vance. Trump is the ultimate showman. On our show Friday,
he mentioned Tim Scott, jd Vance, Marco Rubio, and Doug
Bergham as the final four, but he said they're a
final four or five. He's considering do we think Trump

(36:03):
is gonna go with the odds on favorite, which right
now is jd Vance, or do we think from a
television perspective, and unexpected name surging at the last minute
is actually the most trumpion of the potential choices.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
In other words, he's a television guy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Usually in television you don't get what we all accept
and expect, because that's the way that you drive ratings.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Look, he feels like, is there a surprise He sent
us

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Into the commercial break, and now we're coming back, and
we're all expecting a certain answer, and tonight he may
give us a different answer correcause he's a showman.

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