July 16, 2024 • 36 mins
Senator Marsha Blackburn joins C&B in Milwaukee to discuss the Secret Service failure and her RNC speech. Former Congressman Lee Zeldin tells C&B President Trump has a chance to win New York. Trump attorney Alina Habba stops by the set to discuss the demise of Jack Smith's documents case and to preview her RNC speech about the Donald Trump she knows. Montana U.S. Senate Candidate Tim Sheehy’s talk with C&B closes out the show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Clay and Buck live at the r and see we
are here with Senator Senator Marsha Blackburn. A. Senator Blackburn,
thanks so much, great State of Tennessee. Clay's very fond
of your state. I'm fond of it too, like the
best state in America.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Yes, it is income tax free.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
That's because of you.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
You saved me a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
By the way, I didn't have much money when you
were doing the income fat tax fight, but you've saved
me a lot of money now. And by the way, Buck,
a huge number of people are still moving to the
state of Tennessee because Marcia Blackburn won that fight.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
From all over the country.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I don't want to name names, but I may have
spoken to some senior politicians from say the Carolinas, both
of them uh and said, you guys are missing out
big time on the flow of capitol now because the
zero state income tax that Texas, Florida and Tennessee has huge,
huge benefits for those states and all the incoming population.
But all right, Senator Blackburn, here we are at the RNC.
(00:57):
You spoke last night, we were there. We watch for
the way.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Went on. He played right after how's the President doing talk?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I think the President is very thoughtful, He is very grateful.
He knows that God's hand was on him on Saturday
as we were talking. He never leans forward and turns
his head to the left and the right, and he
had leaned forward a little bit more than you would
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have expected him to because he was trying to put
his eyes on a chart that he was putting up
on the screens. And because he took that movement at
that moment, he survived that shot. So he does look
at that as being providence. And I am ever so
grateful that he's alive and he's well.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
And I think.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Everyone last night seeing himount I knew that that was
an emotional moment for him and his family.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
For him to have survived is fabulous. We talked with
Eric Trump in the first hour about what that experience
was like as a son sitting with his six and
four year olds watching that on television and as it
all unfolded. I think anybody out there can think about
that from a grandpa, a father perspective. But how inexcusable
is the failure of the Secret Service to have allowed
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this situation to even occur.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
How angry are you about it?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
And what can we do to have some consequences for
that failure.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I think so many lawmakers join me in that righteous
anger is that they have one mission, yes, and one goal.
That is it you keep that individual safe. And when
you look at all the missteps and the fact that
people in the crowd were going, hey, there's a guy.
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He's climbing a ladder, he's up on this roof, he's
got a gun, he's got a backpack, and the law
enforcement saw him. They responded to the people, and they
did nothing. This is unbelievable and we're finding out more.
The Senate Republicans sent a letter. We did it out
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of frustration. I had called for the Secret Service director
to call me. Director Cheetle a place to call on
Saturday night. Heard nothing. Still no response from her to
a Senator on the Senate Judiciary Committee calling and saying, hey,
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we need some answers, and we don't just need one
press conference where you stand up and say, well, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
This happened.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
And Senator, as someone who sits on the Senate Judiciary Committee,
I understand Z needs to get to the needs to
get more information and you want to hear from the
individual responsible at the Secret Service for the entity the organization.
But I also want to know do you feel like
we know enough already that a resignation or a firing
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by Biden should occur?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Resignation Office Service.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Record right, And she should be She should have been called.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
In the carpet.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
He should have called her to the office that night
and said, you've got to explain this, because we wouldn't
want that happening to Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or
jd Vance as a running mate.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
We would not.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
Want this to happen.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
And for it to happen, and for forty eight hours
to go Biden, we're still not getting answers and clarification.
I think it's completely unacceptable. She at least should step aside.
There is when you look at the FBI, the DOJ,
the Secret Service, the politicization of these agencies that has
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got to be dealt with. And I am very hopeful
that President Donald Trump is going to have a Government
Reform czar that is going to ride herd over this
and deal with right sizing and refocusing the mission of
these agencies. And I mean, look at what's happened in
the Department of Defense. My goodness, get the woke out
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of the military.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Amen. You have served for the past two years with JD. Vance.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
A lot of people are just learning about JD. Vance
since he is the official vice presidential nominee. Now, what
can you tell us about JD.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Vance?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
What would you want our audience to know about your
experience working with him?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, I'm on the executive committee for the Steering Committee,
which is the Conservatives in the Senate and JD has
been a part of that, so we've had some great meetings.
He comes from the younger, more libertarian wing of the
Republican Party. He will help build a bigger tent. He
is going to bring some Republicans our direction that are
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more focused on tech issues, cryptocurrencies, bitcoin, things of that nature.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I am pleased with that.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
They're also going to hear that JD is very much
aligned with President Trump and much of his agenda. That's
a good thing. He's a great communicator, he's fearless. His
life story is intriguing, growing up in severe poverty, a
very kind of a dysfunctional childhood, realizing he was smart,
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which he did when he went to the military and
then finishing at Ohio State, going to Yale. His wife
Usha is so accomplished. They have those three young kids.
I think this is going to be the strongest ticket
that we have seen in a very long time.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Senator Blackburn, we know that Donald Trump's speech at the
end of the RNC is the it's really building to that,
right that's the pinnacle moment. And while there's a lot
of great stuff going on, you get great speech last night,
and there's a lot of conversation happening between people that
are as motivated to be a part of the Trump
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movement as we've ever seen them. I mean, people who
have been with Trump from the very beginning are telling
me I've never been more invested in this than I
am right now. What are your expectations of somebody who
is close to the president, who talks to the president
about what the overarching message is going to be?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yes, and what you're going to see is that message
of making America great again. People are tired of being broke,
and right now the inflation is up over twenty percent.
And this is why we simplified the platform, and it
is not the one hundred pages, it is sixteen pages
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dedicated to the forgotten men and women. It deals with
those kitchen table issues that people are dealing with every day,
with the border, with the economy, getting boys out of girls, sports,
all of those issues we hear about daily. People can
go to my Marshall Blackburn dot com website and pull
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a copy of that platform down and I encourage them
to read it. They will see the focus that these
are the twenty things we as Republicans promised to you
we are going to do. And somebody said, well, it's
really kind of a truncated version. I said, no, it
(08:40):
is a trump caded version because he read it, he
reviewed it, he edited this. You know. You can see
his edits. They're in all caps, no tags on tips.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I love the twenty bullet points that you guys did,
and I know how much work that requires that. I
thought it was fantastically synthesized for people who are super busy.
You should go read the whole thing. Yeah, but if
you just want to see the twenty points, I thought
it was fantastic. You did really great work on that.
Your husband has great taste in radio.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
He does.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yes, I don't know that I've ever given you the
opportunity to give him a shout out on this program,
which he likes to listen to. So behind every great
politician is a fabulous spouse, some of whom have tremendous
taste in radio.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Would you like to say hi to your husband?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yes, well, my husband Chuck Blackburn, who probably is listening
right now while he's in the gym working out, and
he is a big clay In Buck fan, and he
is the world's best husband. I can't believe we've been
married for so long?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
How many years?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Forty nine years? Can you believe?
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Do you know what you're doing for fit? Because I've
got twenty next month and I'm gonna be honest. Wife
might be listening right now. Figuring out twenty is tough.
Fifty Do you guys have something special plan? Do you know?
Is he's on the hook?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
So sorry he is.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I know he's got to figure this out.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I'm nervous about twenty. I'm not gonna lie. Senator Blackburn.
You've got an election. You're gonna win. You're gonna win big.
But for people out there that are like me, that
are one of your constituents in Tennessee, or people listening
right now who may want to support you.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
What can they do for this election year?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Oh listen, go to Marsha Blackburn dot com and follow
the race. Put some money in the campaign, kiddy, Yes,
you know everybody five ten, twenty five dollars. It all
helps out. And we know it's going to be an
expensive race, Bud.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
We are ready for it, amen, and you're gonna have
a Senate majority.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
We believe very soon we will.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
That's Marsha Blackburn. Guys, encourage you Marsha Blackburn dot com.
She does fabulous work. Congrats on the speech last night.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
It was awesome, you know what.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
To be able to speak and then have Lee Green
Eye follow me and then the president come in. It
was electric, so electric to be able to give that
go Donald Trump speech and then have that lead in.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
It was awesome, no doubt. We'll talk to you again soon.
Good luck on the campaign, and thanks again for that
RNC platform. I think he did a really really good one.
You And by the way, Marsha Blackburn and her husband,
who has fantastic radio listening taste, forty nine years of marriage,
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Hanging out
with all of You in Milwaukee joint now by Lee Zelden,
former Congressman should have been the governor of New York
if people were actually saying in that state, sitting with
us right here, we appreciate you being here.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I'm going to dive right into it because the oldest.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Claim that's been made on the show, I would say,
in the last year, Mark Simone wor our lead in
said Trump is going to win New York. When you
look at the data, when you look at the movement
in the two years since you ran statewide and almost one.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Do you buy that idea?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Where do the numbers lay right now as you see it.
Speaker 8 (13:41):
I do not own Marx crystal Ball, but I will
say President Trump can win New York. I would say
that's difficult, that it's uphill. However, the political earth under
US in New York has shifted right since twenty twenty two.
New issues have emerged. Like when I ran, the border
crisis was not a top three issue. Now for a
lot of voters it is their number one issue. The
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voter registration numbers have moved in our favor as well.
The Democratic registrations down, Republican registrations up, Conservative Party registration
is up, Non affiliate voter registrations up. Eric Adams's numbers
have gotten worse, Kathy Hochel's numbers have gotten worse, Joe
Biden's numbers have gotten worse, and.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
President Trump's had an opportunity to campaign. It's out of
New York.
Speaker 8 (14:19):
We saw the rally in the South Bronx, he showed
up at jose albas Modega. He was at the construction
site in Lower Manhattan. The rally in Wildwood in New
Jersey was in the same media market. And the political
prosecution of President Trump. If something doesn't resonate with independent
minded people, and then these longtime Democrat voters who have
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voted Democrat their whole lives, are prioritizing issues that are
more important than blind parson loyalty. They want safe streets,
they want to have a better quality education for their kids.
They care about prosperity and freedom. They want a secure border.
So I believe that if President Trump gets out there
and works for it, he talks about his solutions to
issues that matter most to these voters, he can build
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off of the success we had in twenty twenty two
and get over the top.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Can he win? Yes?
Speaker 8 (15:07):
Is he guaranteed to win? I would have to yield
to mister Simon's crystal ball.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Are there any Congressional seats that are up that you
think are winnable or that are going to be super
important races, because, as we've talked about.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
You leading the red charge if you will in New.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
York State for that governor's race in twenty twenty two,
certainly help pull across some key wins for the Republicans
to give us a House majority. Are there any others
in New York right now that you're seeing where you're
saying this is a winnable one, this is a flippable one.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
What is it telling you?
Speaker 8 (15:37):
Yeah, there definitely are opportunities to go on offense. First off,
six Republican House freshmen we're elected in twenty two in
districts that Joe Biden one. There are some really tough
races that we need to hold as far as going
on offense. New York eighteen, Alis Esposito running for that
seat that Pat Ryan is currently in. Alison twenty five
year NYPD veteran. She was a commanding officer of her
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precinct to the NYPD. Her father was the NYPD chief.
She's campaigning hard. She was my running made back in
twenty twenty two, and that is probably the top targeted
pick up, the best opportunity we have on Long Island,
New York three. This was a seat that Republicans won
in twenty two, they lost in a special election. They
can win back, It's not gonna be easy. That's Michael
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Petrie who's running in the third Congressional district. Both of
those are opportunities on offense that we can win, but
they're not going to be easy.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You basically won the House for the Republican Party because
not only did you run an incredibly contested statewide race,
but Long Island flipped and you ran through a bunch
of those districts right now. A big part of that
was black Hispanic Asian voters moving to the Republican Party.
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Do you think that's continued to happen. You mentioned the
rally that Trump did in the Bronx. A lot of
people have a variety of different backgrounds. Have those numbers
continued to move? What do you see on the ground
in New York.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
That's a really important point. The answer is yes. But
we can't just expect or assume and these voters just
come around on our own. We have to show up,
and we have to keep showing up. And you can't
show up in pander and say I love black people
vote for me. Elevation people vote for me. I love
Hispanic people vote for me. It doesn't work like that.
It doesn't work and it shouldn't work. But if you
show up, talk to them about substantive issues that they
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care about, their kids' education, You talk to them about
making their streets safer. They've been burned by Democratic policies.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
They are ready. Lee's Eldon real quick ten seconds. I
think chance you might get involved in Trump two point zero,
the next administration.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
Well see the November six decisions. I'm going to save
for November six, but I'm all in to help get
Donald Trump and JD Vance into office.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
That's what I do know fantastic all right?
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Speaker 1 (18:49):
All right, welcome back here to Clay end Buck. It
is All Star day here at the RNC, and we
have another one of our all stars.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Alena Haba is with us now. She is one of
President Trump's attorneys. You know her from trying to defend
the President against the layers of law fair that have
been dropped on him in recent recent months, going back
now over years, years, yeah, years.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I was going to say, it's a lot, there's a
lot of it. Let's start with this.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
We had the almost surreal feeling yesterday when the news
dropped that the South Florida case had just been dismissed
by a judge, which we had been told, oh my gosh,
people are going to prison.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
And you know, we never believe that.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
But the point is that wasn't even the top top
news story because of what happened over the weekend. But
Jack Smith, it seems, has just missed entirely in Florida
and not going to be able to get it done
in DC.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Are you surprised by what a catastrophe.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
This guy is no. I mean we can start at
the beginning. Who the hell is he? And why was
he put in this position? And that's why he lost?
I mean, start from the very very beginning. You can't
pick a henchman. You can't say go and do so
before the election without the American people catching it and
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without the clear uh, demonstration of partisan politics and law
fair coming into our country. It's as a lawyer, I've
said it a hundred times, but it's embarrassing for my
profession what he did. And uh. And I think that
Merrick Garland and the Biden administration has become so desperate
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and sloppy that these are falling one after another like Domino's.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Did you when did you think that it was clear
that it was backfiring?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Like at what point in this process politically, the indictments,
the raid, the raid, rightwa gone to the raid.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
I was with the President when the raid happened, and
we were in New York and it's funny, and I'm
going to speak about this, but it's funny the way
he is so resilient and it's just another day for him.
In that moment, I was like, this is sick this
is actually waste. When I signed up to be his lawyer,
there was nothing. And you don't go to law school
prepared for corruption and to fight a deep state. You
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just don't. And I have learned so quickly under him, frankly,
how to be more resilient and how to be stronger,
and how to fight back and fight back with words
and the truth and the truth is, the truth is
on our side.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Here.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
We have history. We have logs, White House logs that
we've seen. I've been on trial and been told while
on trial, Oh, we just found out that miss James
visited the White House a month before she filed her
complaint and spoke with Kamala, She went to her apartment.
You know, things like that. You can't make it up,
and it comes out. Eventually, it comes out, and it's Leticia.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
James of New York, the state attorney general who went
after and ran, Yeah, you guys, there must be tight
and ran on a platform of getting tru Trump.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Sorry, go ahead, No, I was just.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Going to say, as a lawyer as well, when I
look at what's going on in New York, I can't
imagine wanting to be a lawyer in New York and
wanting to run a business in New York leaving a
side Trump. When you see all that, how destructive is
it not only to the failure related to Trump, but
also just the legal system in general, where there have
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to be a lot of people with prominent assets corporations
where they look at what happened to Trump and they said,
if they can do this to him, which is why
I think this is such a compelling argument, they can
do it to anyone. Sure, How ultimately is it destructive
to the whole system of law in New York?
Speaker 5 (22:21):
I think if you look at statistics, if you look
at the crime rates that have gone up, that they're
ignoring because they have literally tied up all the courts
with getting after Trump. The citizens of New York are
suffering as a result of their political animis and their
political drive, and that drive is blinding to the radical left.
And when you have Ada and an AG who similarly
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have had one mission, and that mission is not to
help New York. It's not to clean it up, it's
not to keep it safe. But it's this fakeness. We
are seeing a rush of people leaving New York, fleeing
to Florida, going to Texas going to places they feel
they will will not be persecuted and prosecuted because they're
a registered Republican, or maybe they just don't want exactly
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I've been around.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I'm one of them. I'm a homer New Yorker who's
now a Florian.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Yeah, and look, I practice in New York. I work
in New York, and I'm afraid and I'm not going
to lie to you, especially with my job. You don't
think I'm a target.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I was going to say, I bet you've had legal friends, advisors,
mentors who have said to you, you know they're going
to come after your law life person.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Yeah, they already are trying. And the truth is I
do everything ethically. I do everything that I'm supposed to do.
But they attack me because I have a strong voice
and because I'm a voice for Trump, and that's not
going to deter me from doing my job and trying
to save America through the legal system and making sure
that frankly, Americans know what is actually happening in the back.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
You're speaking on Thursday. That's a big undertaking. I believe
you're leading in to Tucker. Yes, what is it like
to draft a speech? I imagine that's challenging. How much
more challenging was it after what you saw on Saturday?
Have you altered what you would say? Take us into
what the process of writing a speech for that big
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of an audience is like for that big of a moment,
and then also to have to pivot given what just
happened over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Sure, So when I was asked to speak, I spoke
with the President, and I assumed that my speech would
be much like what I've spoken about for three years,
the law fair, all of that, and that's not what
I was asked to speak to. I've been asked to
speak about him and who he is, and I'm honored,
and it's also more daunting for me because it's really
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the underbelly of what goes on and who I've been
friends with for the last few years and who's made
me who I am. I had a speech prepared. This
speech was thrown out after Saturday. This morning, I actually
rewrote my speech from scratch, and I cried every time
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I read it, and I'm struggling to get through it
without tears, to be honest, and I'm worried that I
won't be able to on Thursday night. But also I
feel that the American people don't know President Trump the
way I do. And I'm so honored to be one
of those people that gets to be with him a
lot and tell them who he is.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Okay, so this is important. It sounds like what you're
going to be talking about. My wife is also a lawyer.
She said what she hears from her girlfriends who might
not be willing to vote for Trump suburban moms is oh,
he's a misogynist. He's not a guy that I could trust.
That's what they say. Yeah, And she says, I wish
(25:36):
strong women would tell the story like you of what
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Speaker 5 (25:51):
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Hear it to in New York from women there.
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You know. I mean, I've walked in York and had
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think I'm a champion of women, and I think President
Trump is and I know he is, and that's what
I'm going to speak to.
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Thanks so much, thank you. I'm honored, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 4 (27:55):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We are man rolling
through a wild Tuesday here in Milwaukee, and we have
the guy who may well flip Senate control back to
the Republican Party. Tim Sheehy, who is here with us
right now from Montana. I like to look I don't
know if you ever check it. I like to look
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at the gambling odds, predictive markets out there. I don't
know if you look, but you have moved into a
big favorite. Montanas are responding really well to you. First
major campaign for you. How are you feeling, what are
you seeing on the ground, and how optimistic are you
as we sit about three and a half months away
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from election day.
Speaker 9 (28:38):
Well, it's not first major campaign. It's the first any
campaign for me.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
So this is my cold more shot into politics and
not something I ever saw myself doing. But you know,
listen to some of us served overseas. You know, Buck
obviously was there too, and I served her at Afghanistan
and Afghanistan specifically. You know my wife who's behind me
here at the show, she was a marine. We both
fought and watching that collapse in twenty one, I served
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multiple tours. There was on the radio every day with
our friends, partners, interpreters' allies that we were abandoning. And
you know, I just said, I refuse to watch this
happen in our country anymore. I refuse to watch policies
that are literally targeting our own people for destruction. In
many ways, I mean we're having an upward transfer the wealth.
We're opening our border wide open, and we have an
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economy that's not rewarding hard work and blue collar workers
in America anymore. So right now what we're seeing on
the campaign trannel of Montana's I've been an unknown, of course,
we announced a year ago roughly, and you know I
was at four percent name by d and three percent
because there was a judge in Missoula nang Shihi, So
basically I was nobody. But listen, my message is one
of common sense. I'm just saying we need to bring
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common sense back to this country. And for Montana's what
does that mean? That means they want a secure border,
safe streets, cheap gas. Comps are good, criminals are bad
boys of boys, girls and girls. I mean, these are
pretty simple things that weren't controversial five years ago. I
think everyday, working class Americans are like, you know, what
the hell's happening to the country I grew up in,
where you know, landlords who have squatters in their home
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illegally are being arrested for kicking them out of their homes.
We're telling our daughters that they should share locker rooms
with boys. That boys can play girls' sports. And you know,
we're legalizing crime in the streets while we're trying to
imprison foreign presidents. So up is down and left is right.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Right now, speaking as a reformed East Coast you know,
former up in the northeast guy here, we tend to
think of Montana. I think there's a very broad perception,
certainly on the coast of Montana's come on, it's like
cowboys rodeo. It's got to be read, right, It's like
northern Texas. But the political dynamic there is actually pretty different, right.
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There's it's much more competitive than people realize because you
have a huge swath in the middle for the state
of people who are what independence libertarian, meaning, like, what's
the political demographic makeup of now?
Speaker 9 (30:55):
Thank you for asking that, because that that is an
important thing for people nationally to recognize, because you know,
as you both mentioned, this race will determine control of
the Senate. That's it's that simple. We win Montana ruin exactly. Yeah,
a lot of pressure, but and therefore people have to
have a little better understanding what's happening.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Though.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
The amount of people I talk to who mega donors,
you know, Max out donors, media personalities who you know
do this for a living. They're like, boy, what's going
on in Montana? And I'm like, you guys got to
tune in. This is an incredibly important race. I mean,
the White House is important, but the center is just
as important. Really, I mean, if Trump wins when he went,
he wins, that's exactly right. So but back to your question.
You know, Montana has a complicated political history. Yes, it
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is generally perceived as red, and I believe today it is.
But just you know, nine years ago in Montana, seven
of eight statewide elected offices were Democrats and today eight
of nine are Republicans because we've added one congressional seat. So,
and that brand of of of Democrat in Montana is
is the West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You know JD.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
Van style, Ohio blue collar, working class, minor, logger, truck
driver that used to be a pro union, pro working
class Democrat back when you had a pro gun, pro border,
you know, pro life democrat.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
So they pulled that in the state of Montana. But
I'm assuming they go to d C and they're rolling
with Chuck Schumer, right.
Speaker 9 (32:15):
Well, so the only one we have left is John
Tester my opponent is the final remaining statewide Democrat in
the state. I mean he's he's the final holdout of
that old brand of Democrat. And to be quite honest,
you know, he's a masterful politician. There's no question about
a credit where credits due.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
He's good at it.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
And the State Party and the National Party dumps one
hundred and fifty two hundred million dollars in every election
cycle to brainwash Montanas into believing that John Tester is
a down the road, moderate, common sense Joe Manchin style
Democrat and nothing could be further from the truth. He's
voted every single time with Biden's agenda. He supported Biden
and Kamela with all. He's got one hundred percent planned
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parenthood f from the NRA.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
He's as progressive as they came from the NRA get
elected in Montana. That's just astonished it.
Speaker 9 (32:59):
Well, we're gonna change that here in ninety days.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Well there we go. So you mentioned John Tester.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
I bet there's people who are listening to us right
now that have voted for him in the past because
he is a very skilled politician.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
But you have the ability to flip control of the.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
United States Senate to Republicans to potentially give Donald Trump
the ability to enact some of his agenda. One of
the things we hear a lot though, there are a
lot of new people who have moved into Montana from
different states post COVID. What does the data look like
so far as you can tell. Are they more likely
to be Republican voters? Are they more likely to be Democrats?
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It's like Florida, who Buck has moved. A lot of
people have moved into my state of Tennessee. Break that
down for us because this is a first time since
so I'll use these coasts as an example.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
I don't know where your geographic listener base is, but
since you're out of Florida, everywhere.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Hundred stations, but you know where.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
They're political refugees in Montana and Idaho. So you know,
people fleeing Oregon, Washington, California, the cows California, Washington, we
call him as the Cows are fleeing the Left Coast.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Those who are seeking to escape.
Speaker 9 (34:02):
The totalitarian leftist policies of the Left Coast are going
to Montana and Idaho to live their freedom, live in
a place of liberty, carry their guns. I just actually
met a guy a few weeks ago south of Missoula
who had left Seattle with his three children after they
arrested him in home depot for not wearing a mask.
When he fled, he said, I'm never going back.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
The people leaving the left coast who want to keep
voting democratic going to Colorado. They've turned it blue effectively.
And you know, someone going to Texas, Austin, and they're
going to Arizona. The people that want to vote read
and live in a free country going to Montana Ido.
So short answer to your question is that demographic shift
on the whole is helping us. Now there are some
small municipalities it is hurting us. You know that the
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university towns like Bozeman and Missoula definitely have gotten bluer.
But on a state level, we're getting redder. So that's
helping us. And then to the Trump Tester vote. As
you talked about the people that vote for Trump and say, bah, yeah,
but Tester's.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Got our back.
Speaker 9 (34:55):
He's a good working class guy. You know, they just
need to wake up. You know, he's not mister pro veteran.
He sits in the VA Committee and panters to veterans
every day. I am a combat veteran, combat wounded veteran.
My wife's a combat veteran. I started my business with
all veterans, Like, how how is a never having served
career bureaucrat who's in the State Center for fifteen years
or ten whatever it was, and now he's been in
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the US Senate for eighteen years. He's been a career
bureaucrat politician. How is he going to take better care
of veterans than a combat vetter.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
He's not.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
It's that simple. So they got to wake up to that,
and they have to wake up to his voting record,
which is he has not been a common sense voice
in the middle of the road. He's been a loyal
progressive foot soldier for the Biden agenda every step of
the way. So it's time for them to wake up
and realize that Montana is at the tipping point this cycle,
and they got to get out and vote and listen.
If Conservatives show up and vote in Montana, we win.
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It's that simple. If we show up, we win. And
to that end, how can our listeners help listen? If
you're in Montana and you're listening, you know, spread the word.
You've got to get to those people who somehow think
that Tester is still a common sense voice. Make sure
they understand his voting record and make sure understand the issues.
Go to Timframt dot com. You can donate support us
five bucks, ten bucks with it more important than that,
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look at the issues and communicate to your friends and families.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
So way everybody.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
One of the most important Senate races that is out
there right now be a huge pickup if you can win, Tim,
Best of luck to you on that one. When you win,
you're gonna have to come back on and hang out
with us again. And also, thank you for your service
with the Seal Teams. Appreciate you, sir, Thanks your support.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
We'll be back well one hundred percent, get you back,
and we'll make sure that you're flipping Fontana. Everybody out
there listening right now, get out there, do all the
work to put this guy in the Senate. Flip back
control break Tuesday, Buck, It's been a wild one. We'll
be back with you tomorrow in Milwaukee, continuing to break
down everything and more.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Thanks for hanging with me.
Welcome back and everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Clay and Buck live at the r and see we
are here with Senator Senator Marsha Blackburn. A. Senator Blackburn,
thanks so much, great State of Tennessee. Clay's very fond
of your state. I'm fond of it too, like the
best state in America.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Yes, it is income tax free.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
That's because of you.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
You saved me a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
By the way, I didn't have much money when you
were doing the income fat tax fight, but you've saved
me a lot of money now. And by the way, Buck,
a huge number of people are still moving to the
state of Tennessee because Marcia Blackburn won that fight.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
From all over the country.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I don't want to name names, but I may have
spoken to some senior politicians from say the Carolinas, both
of them uh and said, you guys are missing out
big time on the flow of capitol now because the
zero state income tax that Texas, Florida and Tennessee has huge,
huge benefits for those states and all the incoming population.
But all right, Senator Blackburn, here we are at the RNC.
(00:57):
You spoke last night, we were there. We watch for
the way.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Went on. He played right after how's the President doing talk?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I think the President is very thoughtful, He is very grateful.
He knows that God's hand was on him on Saturday
as we were talking. He never leans forward and turns
his head to the left and the right, and he
had leaned forward a little bit more than you would
(01:33):
have expected him to because he was trying to put
his eyes on a chart that he was putting up
on the screens. And because he took that movement at
that moment, he survived that shot. So he does look
at that as being providence. And I am ever so
grateful that he's alive and he's well.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
And I think.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Everyone last night seeing himount I knew that that was
an emotional moment for him and his family.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
For him to have survived is fabulous. We talked with
Eric Trump in the first hour about what that experience
was like as a son sitting with his six and
four year olds watching that on television and as it
all unfolded. I think anybody out there can think about
that from a grandpa, a father perspective. But how inexcusable
is the failure of the Secret Service to have allowed
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this situation to even occur.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
How angry are you about it?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
And what can we do to have some consequences for
that failure.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I think so many lawmakers join me in that righteous
anger is that they have one mission, yes, and one goal.
That is it you keep that individual safe. And when
you look at all the missteps and the fact that
people in the crowd were going, hey, there's a guy.
(03:00):
He's climbing a ladder, he's up on this roof, he's
got a gun, he's got a backpack, and the law
enforcement saw him. They responded to the people, and they
did nothing. This is unbelievable and we're finding out more.
The Senate Republicans sent a letter. We did it out
(03:21):
of frustration. I had called for the Secret Service director
to call me. Director Cheetle a place to call on
Saturday night. Heard nothing. Still no response from her to
a Senator on the Senate Judiciary Committee calling and saying, hey,
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we need some answers, and we don't just need one
press conference where you stand up and say, well, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
This happened.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
And Senator, as someone who sits on the Senate Judiciary Committee,
I understand Z needs to get to the needs to
get more information and you want to hear from the
individual responsible at the Secret Service for the entity the organization.
But I also want to know do you feel like
we know enough already that a resignation or a firing
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by Biden should occur?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Resignation Office Service.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Record right, And she should be She should have been called.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
In the carpet.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
He should have called her to the office that night
and said, you've got to explain this, because we wouldn't
want that happening to Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or
jd Vance as a running mate.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
We would not.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
Want this to happen.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
And for it to happen, and for forty eight hours
to go Biden, we're still not getting answers and clarification.
I think it's completely unacceptable. She at least should step aside.
There is when you look at the FBI, the DOJ,
the Secret Service, the politicization of these agencies that has
(05:04):
got to be dealt with. And I am very hopeful
that President Donald Trump is going to have a Government
Reform czar that is going to ride herd over this
and deal with right sizing and refocusing the mission of
these agencies. And I mean, look at what's happened in
the Department of Defense. My goodness, get the woke out
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of the military.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Amen. You have served for the past two years with JD. Vance.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
A lot of people are just learning about JD. Vance
since he is the official vice presidential nominee. Now, what
can you tell us about JD.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Vance?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
What would you want our audience to know about your
experience working with him?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, I'm on the executive committee for the Steering Committee,
which is the Conservatives in the Senate and JD has
been a part of that, so we've had some great meetings.
He comes from the younger, more libertarian wing of the
Republican Party. He will help build a bigger tent. He
is going to bring some Republicans our direction that are
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more focused on tech issues, cryptocurrencies, bitcoin, things of that nature.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I am pleased with that.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
They're also going to hear that JD is very much
aligned with President Trump and much of his agenda. That's
a good thing. He's a great communicator, he's fearless. His
life story is intriguing, growing up in severe poverty, a
very kind of a dysfunctional childhood, realizing he was smart,
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which he did when he went to the military and
then finishing at Ohio State, going to Yale. His wife
Usha is so accomplished. They have those three young kids.
I think this is going to be the strongest ticket
that we have seen in a very long time.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Senator Blackburn, we know that Donald Trump's speech at the
end of the RNC is the it's really building to that,
right that's the pinnacle moment. And while there's a lot
of great stuff going on, you get great speech last night,
and there's a lot of conversation happening between people that
are as motivated to be a part of the Trump
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movement as we've ever seen them. I mean, people who
have been with Trump from the very beginning are telling
me I've never been more invested in this than I
am right now. What are your expectations of somebody who
is close to the president, who talks to the president
about what the overarching message is going to be?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yes, and what you're going to see is that message
of making America great again. People are tired of being broke,
and right now the inflation is up over twenty percent.
And this is why we simplified the platform, and it
is not the one hundred pages, it is sixteen pages
(08:00):
dedicated to the forgotten men and women. It deals with
those kitchen table issues that people are dealing with every day,
with the border, with the economy, getting boys out of girls, sports,
all of those issues we hear about daily. People can
go to my Marshall Blackburn dot com website and pull
(08:20):
a copy of that platform down and I encourage them
to read it. They will see the focus that these
are the twenty things we as Republicans promised to you
we are going to do. And somebody said, well, it's
really kind of a truncated version. I said, no, it
(08:40):
is a trump caded version because he read it, he
reviewed it, he edited this. You know. You can see
his edits. They're in all caps, no tags on tips.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I love the twenty bullet points that you guys did,
and I know how much work that requires that. I
thought it was fantastically synthesized for people who are super busy.
You should go read the whole thing. Yeah, but if
you just want to see the twenty points, I thought
it was fantastic. You did really great work on that.
Your husband has great taste in radio.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
He does.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yes, I don't know that I've ever given you the
opportunity to give him a shout out on this program,
which he likes to listen to. So behind every great
politician is a fabulous spouse, some of whom have tremendous
taste in radio.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Would you like to say hi to your husband?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yes, well, my husband Chuck Blackburn, who probably is listening
right now while he's in the gym working out, and
he is a big clay In Buck fan, and he
is the world's best husband. I can't believe we've been
married for so long?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
How many years?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Forty nine years? Can you believe?
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Do you know what you're doing for fit? Because I've
got twenty next month and I'm gonna be honest. Wife
might be listening right now. Figuring out twenty is tough.
Fifty Do you guys have something special plan? Do you know?
Is he's on the hook?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
So sorry he is.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I know he's got to figure this out.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I'm nervous about twenty. I'm not gonna lie. Senator Blackburn.
You've got an election. You're gonna win. You're gonna win big.
But for people out there that are like me, that
are one of your constituents in Tennessee, or people listening
right now who may want to support you.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
What can they do for this election year?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Oh listen, go to Marsha Blackburn dot com and follow
the race. Put some money in the campaign, kiddy, Yes,
you know everybody five ten, twenty five dollars. It all
helps out. And we know it's going to be an
expensive race, Bud.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
We are ready for it, amen, and you're gonna have
a Senate majority.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
We believe very soon we will.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
That's Marsha Blackburn. Guys, encourage you Marsha Blackburn dot com.
She does fabulous work. Congrats on the speech last night.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
It was awesome, you know what.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
To be able to speak and then have Lee Green
Eye follow me and then the president come in. It
was electric, so electric to be able to give that
go Donald Trump speech and then have that lead in.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
It was awesome, no doubt. We'll talk to you again soon.
Good luck on the campaign, and thanks again for that
RNC platform. I think he did a really really good one.
You And by the way, Marsha Blackburn and her husband,
who has fantastic radio listening taste, forty nine years of marriage,
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Hanging out
with all of You in Milwaukee joint now by Lee Zelden,
former Congressman should have been the governor of New York
if people were actually saying in that state, sitting with
us right here, we appreciate you being here.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I'm going to dive right into it because the oldest.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Claim that's been made on the show, I would say,
in the last year, Mark Simone wor our lead in
said Trump is going to win New York. When you
look at the data, when you look at the movement
in the two years since you ran statewide and almost one.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Do you buy that idea?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Where do the numbers lay right now as you see it.
Speaker 8 (13:41):
I do not own Marx crystal Ball, but I will
say President Trump can win New York. I would say
that's difficult, that it's uphill. However, the political earth under
US in New York has shifted right since twenty twenty two.
New issues have emerged. Like when I ran, the border
crisis was not a top three issue. Now for a
lot of voters it is their number one issue. The
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voter registration numbers have moved in our favor as well.
The Democratic registrations down, Republican registrations up, Conservative Party registration
is up, Non affiliate voter registrations up. Eric Adams's numbers
have gotten worse, Kathy Hochel's numbers have gotten worse, Joe
Biden's numbers have gotten worse, and.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
President Trump's had an opportunity to campaign. It's out of
New York.
Speaker 8 (14:19):
We saw the rally in the South Bronx, he showed
up at jose albas Modega. He was at the construction
site in Lower Manhattan. The rally in Wildwood in New
Jersey was in the same media market. And the political
prosecution of President Trump. If something doesn't resonate with independent
minded people, and then these longtime Democrat voters who have
(14:40):
voted Democrat their whole lives, are prioritizing issues that are
more important than blind parson loyalty. They want safe streets,
they want to have a better quality education for their kids.
They care about prosperity and freedom. They want a secure border.
So I believe that if President Trump gets out there
and works for it, he talks about his solutions to
issues that matter most to these voters, he can build
(15:02):
off of the success we had in twenty twenty two
and get over the top.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Can he win? Yes?
Speaker 8 (15:07):
Is he guaranteed to win? I would have to yield
to mister Simon's crystal ball.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Are there any Congressional seats that are up that you
think are winnable or that are going to be super
important races, because, as we've talked about.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
You leading the red charge if you will in New.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
York State for that governor's race in twenty twenty two,
certainly help pull across some key wins for the Republicans
to give us a House majority. Are there any others
in New York right now that you're seeing where you're
saying this is a winnable one, this is a flippable one.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
What is it telling you?
Speaker 8 (15:37):
Yeah, there definitely are opportunities to go on offense. First off,
six Republican House freshmen we're elected in twenty two in
districts that Joe Biden one. There are some really tough
races that we need to hold as far as going
on offense. New York eighteen, Alis Esposito running for that
seat that Pat Ryan is currently in. Alison twenty five
year NYPD veteran. She was a commanding officer of her
(15:59):
precinct to the NYPD. Her father was the NYPD chief.
She's campaigning hard. She was my running made back in
twenty twenty two, and that is probably the top targeted
pick up, the best opportunity we have on Long Island,
New York three. This was a seat that Republicans won
in twenty two, they lost in a special election. They
can win back, It's not gonna be easy. That's Michael
(16:20):
Petrie who's running in the third Congressional district. Both of
those are opportunities on offense that we can win, but
they're not going to be easy.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You basically won the House for the Republican Party because
not only did you run an incredibly contested statewide race,
but Long Island flipped and you ran through a bunch
of those districts right now. A big part of that
was black Hispanic Asian voters moving to the Republican Party.
(16:48):
Do you think that's continued to happen. You mentioned the
rally that Trump did in the Bronx. A lot of
people have a variety of different backgrounds. Have those numbers
continued to move? What do you see on the ground
in New York.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
That's a really important point. The answer is yes. But
we can't just expect or assume and these voters just
come around on our own. We have to show up,
and we have to keep showing up. And you can't
show up in pander and say I love black people
vote for me. Elevation people vote for me. I love
Hispanic people vote for me. It doesn't work like that.
It doesn't work and it shouldn't work. But if you
show up, talk to them about substantive issues that they
(17:22):
care about, their kids' education, You talk to them about
making their streets safer. They've been burned by Democratic policies.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
They are ready. Lee's Eldon real quick ten seconds. I
think chance you might get involved in Trump two point zero,
the next administration.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
Well see the November six decisions. I'm going to save
for November six, but I'm all in to help get
Donald Trump and JD Vance into office.
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That's what I do know fantastic all right?
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Speaker 1 (18:49):
All right, welcome back here to Clay end Buck. It
is All Star day here at the RNC, and we
have another one of our all stars.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Alena Haba is with us now. She is one of
President Trump's attorneys. You know her from trying to defend
the President against the layers of law fair that have
been dropped on him in recent recent months, going back
now over years, years, yeah, years.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I was going to say, it's a lot, there's a
lot of it. Let's start with this.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
We had the almost surreal feeling yesterday when the news
dropped that the South Florida case had just been dismissed
by a judge, which we had been told, oh my gosh,
people are going to prison.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
And you know, we never believe that.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
But the point is that wasn't even the top top
news story because of what happened over the weekend. But
Jack Smith, it seems, has just missed entirely in Florida
and not going to be able to get it done
in DC.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Are you surprised by what a catastrophe.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
This guy is no. I mean we can start at
the beginning. Who the hell is he? And why was
he put in this position? And that's why he lost?
I mean, start from the very very beginning. You can't
pick a henchman. You can't say go and do so
before the election without the American people catching it and
(20:04):
without the clear uh, demonstration of partisan politics and law
fair coming into our country. It's as a lawyer, I've
said it a hundred times, but it's embarrassing for my
profession what he did. And uh. And I think that
Merrick Garland and the Biden administration has become so desperate
(20:25):
and sloppy that these are falling one after another like Domino's.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Did you when did you think that it was clear
that it was backfiring?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Like at what point in this process politically, the indictments,
the raid, the raid, rightwa gone to the raid.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
I was with the President when the raid happened, and
we were in New York and it's funny, and I'm
going to speak about this, but it's funny the way
he is so resilient and it's just another day for him.
In that moment, I was like, this is sick this
is actually waste. When I signed up to be his lawyer,
there was nothing. And you don't go to law school
prepared for corruption and to fight a deep state. You
(21:01):
just don't. And I have learned so quickly under him, frankly,
how to be more resilient and how to be stronger,
and how to fight back and fight back with words
and the truth and the truth is, the truth is
on our side.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Here.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
We have history. We have logs, White House logs that
we've seen. I've been on trial and been told while
on trial, Oh, we just found out that miss James
visited the White House a month before she filed her
complaint and spoke with Kamala, She went to her apartment.
You know, things like that. You can't make it up,
and it comes out. Eventually, it comes out, and it's Leticia.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
James of New York, the state attorney general who went
after and ran, Yeah, you guys, there must be tight
and ran on a platform of getting tru Trump.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Sorry, go ahead, No, I was just.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Going to say, as a lawyer as well, when I
look at what's going on in New York, I can't
imagine wanting to be a lawyer in New York and
wanting to run a business in New York leaving a
side Trump. When you see all that, how destructive is
it not only to the failure related to Trump, but
also just the legal system in general, where there have
(22:05):
to be a lot of people with prominent assets corporations
where they look at what happened to Trump and they said,
if they can do this to him, which is why
I think this is such a compelling argument, they can
do it to anyone. Sure, How ultimately is it destructive
to the whole system of law in New York?
Speaker 5 (22:21):
I think if you look at statistics, if you look
at the crime rates that have gone up, that they're
ignoring because they have literally tied up all the courts
with getting after Trump. The citizens of New York are
suffering as a result of their political animis and their
political drive, and that drive is blinding to the radical left.
And when you have Ada and an AG who similarly
(22:44):
have had one mission, and that mission is not to
help New York. It's not to clean it up, it's
not to keep it safe. But it's this fakeness. We
are seeing a rush of people leaving New York, fleeing
to Florida, going to Texas going to places they feel
they will will not be persecuted and prosecuted because they're
a registered Republican, or maybe they just don't want exactly
(23:06):
I've been around.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I'm one of them. I'm a homer New Yorker who's
now a Florian.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Yeah, and look, I practice in New York. I work
in New York, and I'm afraid and I'm not going
to lie to you, especially with my job. You don't
think I'm a target.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I was going to say, I bet you've had legal friends, advisors,
mentors who have said to you, you know they're going
to come after your law life person.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Yeah, they already are trying. And the truth is I
do everything ethically. I do everything that I'm supposed to do.
But they attack me because I have a strong voice
and because I'm a voice for Trump, and that's not
going to deter me from doing my job and trying
to save America through the legal system and making sure
that frankly, Americans know what is actually happening in the back.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
You're speaking on Thursday. That's a big undertaking. I believe
you're leading in to Tucker. Yes, what is it like
to draft a speech? I imagine that's challenging. How much
more challenging was it after what you saw on Saturday?
Have you altered what you would say? Take us into
what the process of writing a speech for that big
(24:09):
of an audience is like for that big of a moment,
and then also to have to pivot given what just
happened over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Sure, So when I was asked to speak, I spoke
with the President, and I assumed that my speech would
be much like what I've spoken about for three years,
the law fair, all of that, and that's not what
I was asked to speak to. I've been asked to
speak about him and who he is, and I'm honored,
and it's also more daunting for me because it's really
(24:37):
the underbelly of what goes on and who I've been
friends with for the last few years and who's made
me who I am. I had a speech prepared. This
speech was thrown out after Saturday. This morning, I actually
rewrote my speech from scratch, and I cried every time
(24:57):
I read it, and I'm struggling to get through it
without tears, to be honest, and I'm worried that I
won't be able to on Thursday night. But also I
feel that the American people don't know President Trump the
way I do. And I'm so honored to be one
of those people that gets to be with him a
lot and tell them who he is.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Okay, so this is important. It sounds like what you're
going to be talking about. My wife is also a lawyer.
She said what she hears from her girlfriends who might
not be willing to vote for Trump suburban moms is oh,
he's a misogynist. He's not a guy that I could trust.
That's what they say. Yeah, And she says, I wish
(25:36):
strong women would tell the story like you of what
being with Trump is like. Is that a part of
what you will do? And for everybody out there listening
to us right now who might be like my wife
and have girlfriends that they're trying to persuade other book.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Can you say you work for him? He's this, he's that.
He does this to women, look at them.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Hear it to in New York from women there.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
You know. I mean, I've walked in York and had
people scream at me or a disgrace. You're an embarrassment
to women, You are this, that and the other. I
think I'm a champion of women, and I think President
Trump is and I know he is, and that's what
I'm going to speak to.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Yeah, I think that could be a killer speech because
I think there's a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Of people from me.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yes, but yeah, now I'm excited to actually be Alena Haba,
not President Trump's attorney on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Well, Alena Haba, president Trump's attorney, thank you for being
here with us. You appreciate you making the time. It's
really good to see you. And also for stepping up
and being in the fight. I mean, we've been seeing
you do that for a long time where you're uh
came on the show. So thanks, it means a lot.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Thanks so much, thank you. I'm honored, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 4 (27:55):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We are man rolling
through a wild Tuesday here in Milwaukee, and we have
the guy who may well flip Senate control back to
the Republican Party. Tim Sheehy, who is here with us
right now from Montana. I like to look I don't
know if you ever check it. I like to look
(28:16):
at the gambling odds, predictive markets out there. I don't
know if you look, but you have moved into a
big favorite. Montanas are responding really well to you. First
major campaign for you. How are you feeling, what are
you seeing on the ground, and how optimistic are you
as we sit about three and a half months away
(28:37):
from election day.
Speaker 9 (28:38):
Well, it's not first major campaign. It's the first any
campaign for me.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
So this is my cold more shot into politics and
not something I ever saw myself doing. But you know,
listen to some of us served overseas. You know, Buck
obviously was there too, and I served her at Afghanistan
and Afghanistan specifically. You know my wife who's behind me
here at the show, she was a marine. We both
fought and watching that collapse in twenty one, I served
(29:03):
multiple tours. There was on the radio every day with
our friends, partners, interpreters' allies that we were abandoning. And
you know, I just said, I refuse to watch this
happen in our country anymore. I refuse to watch policies
that are literally targeting our own people for destruction. In
many ways, I mean we're having an upward transfer the wealth.
We're opening our border wide open, and we have an
(29:24):
economy that's not rewarding hard work and blue collar workers
in America anymore. So right now what we're seeing on
the campaign trannel of Montana's I've been an unknown, of course,
we announced a year ago roughly, and you know I
was at four percent name by d and three percent
because there was a judge in Missoula nang Shihi, So
basically I was nobody. But listen, my message is one
of common sense. I'm just saying we need to bring
(29:46):
common sense back to this country. And for Montana's what
does that mean? That means they want a secure border,
safe streets, cheap gas. Comps are good, criminals are bad
boys of boys, girls and girls. I mean, these are
pretty simple things that weren't controversial five years ago. I
think everyday, working class Americans are like, you know, what
the hell's happening to the country I grew up in,
where you know, landlords who have squatters in their home
(30:07):
illegally are being arrested for kicking them out of their homes.
We're telling our daughters that they should share locker rooms
with boys. That boys can play girls' sports. And you know,
we're legalizing crime in the streets while we're trying to
imprison foreign presidents. So up is down and left is right.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Right now, speaking as a reformed East Coast you know,
former up in the northeast guy here, we tend to
think of Montana. I think there's a very broad perception,
certainly on the coast of Montana's come on, it's like
cowboys rodeo. It's got to be read, right, It's like
northern Texas. But the political dynamic there is actually pretty different, right.
(30:42):
There's it's much more competitive than people realize because you
have a huge swath in the middle for the state
of people who are what independence libertarian, meaning, like, what's
the political demographic makeup of now?
Speaker 9 (30:55):
Thank you for asking that, because that that is an
important thing for people nationally to recognize, because you know,
as you both mentioned, this race will determine control of
the Senate. That's it's that simple. We win Montana ruin exactly. Yeah,
a lot of pressure, but and therefore people have to
have a little better understanding what's happening.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Though.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
The amount of people I talk to who mega donors,
you know, Max out donors, media personalities who you know
do this for a living. They're like, boy, what's going
on in Montana? And I'm like, you guys got to
tune in. This is an incredibly important race. I mean,
the White House is important, but the center is just
as important. Really, I mean, if Trump wins when he went,
he wins, that's exactly right. So but back to your question.
You know, Montana has a complicated political history. Yes, it
(31:35):
is generally perceived as red, and I believe today it is.
But just you know, nine years ago in Montana, seven
of eight statewide elected offices were Democrats and today eight
of nine are Republicans because we've added one congressional seat. So,
and that brand of of of Democrat in Montana is
is the West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You know JD.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
Van style, Ohio blue collar, working class, minor, logger, truck
driver that used to be a pro union, pro working
class Democrat back when you had a pro gun, pro border,
you know, pro life democrat.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
So they pulled that in the state of Montana. But
I'm assuming they go to d C and they're rolling
with Chuck Schumer, right.
Speaker 9 (32:15):
Well, so the only one we have left is John
Tester my opponent is the final remaining statewide Democrat in
the state. I mean he's he's the final holdout of
that old brand of Democrat. And to be quite honest,
you know, he's a masterful politician. There's no question about
a credit where credits due.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
He's good at it.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
And the State Party and the National Party dumps one
hundred and fifty two hundred million dollars in every election
cycle to brainwash Montanas into believing that John Tester is
a down the road, moderate, common sense Joe Manchin style
Democrat and nothing could be further from the truth. He's
voted every single time with Biden's agenda. He supported Biden
and Kamela with all. He's got one hundred percent planned
(32:53):
parenthood f from the NRA.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
He's as progressive as they came from the NRA get
elected in Montana. That's just astonished it.
Speaker 9 (32:59):
Well, we're gonna change that here in ninety days.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Well there we go. So you mentioned John Tester.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
I bet there's people who are listening to us right
now that have voted for him in the past because
he is a very skilled politician.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
But you have the ability to flip control of the.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
United States Senate to Republicans to potentially give Donald Trump
the ability to enact some of his agenda. One of
the things we hear a lot though, there are a
lot of new people who have moved into Montana from
different states post COVID. What does the data look like
so far as you can tell. Are they more likely
to be Republican voters? Are they more likely to be Democrats?
(33:34):
It's like Florida, who Buck has moved. A lot of
people have moved into my state of Tennessee. Break that
down for us because this is a first time since
so I'll use these coasts as an example.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
I don't know where your geographic listener base is, but
since you're out of Florida, everywhere.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Hundred stations, but you know where.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
They're political refugees in Montana and Idaho. So you know,
people fleeing Oregon, Washington, California, the cows California, Washington, we
call him as the Cows are fleeing the Left Coast.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Those who are seeking to escape.
Speaker 9 (34:02):
The totalitarian leftist policies of the Left Coast are going
to Montana and Idaho to live their freedom, live in
a place of liberty, carry their guns. I just actually
met a guy a few weeks ago south of Missoula
who had left Seattle with his three children after they
arrested him in home depot for not wearing a mask.
When he fled, he said, I'm never going back.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
The people leaving the left coast who want to keep
voting democratic going to Colorado. They've turned it blue effectively.
And you know, someone going to Texas, Austin, and they're
going to Arizona. The people that want to vote read
and live in a free country going to Montana Ido.
So short answer to your question is that demographic shift
on the whole is helping us. Now there are some
small municipalities it is hurting us. You know that the
(34:44):
university towns like Bozeman and Missoula definitely have gotten bluer.
But on a state level, we're getting redder. So that's
helping us. And then to the Trump Tester vote. As
you talked about the people that vote for Trump and say, bah, yeah,
but Tester's.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Got our back.
Speaker 9 (34:55):
He's a good working class guy. You know, they just
need to wake up. You know, he's not mister pro veteran.
He sits in the VA Committee and panters to veterans
every day. I am a combat veteran, combat wounded veteran.
My wife's a combat veteran. I started my business with
all veterans, Like, how how is a never having served
career bureaucrat who's in the State Center for fifteen years
or ten whatever it was, and now he's been in
(35:16):
the US Senate for eighteen years. He's been a career
bureaucrat politician. How is he going to take better care
of veterans than a combat vetter.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
He's not.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
It's that simple. So they got to wake up to that,
and they have to wake up to his voting record,
which is he has not been a common sense voice
in the middle of the road. He's been a loyal
progressive foot soldier for the Biden agenda every step of
the way. So it's time for them to wake up
and realize that Montana is at the tipping point this cycle,
and they got to get out and vote and listen.
If Conservatives show up and vote in Montana, we win.
(35:45):
It's that simple. If we show up, we win. And
to that end, how can our listeners help listen? If
you're in Montana and you're listening, you know, spread the word.
You've got to get to those people who somehow think
that Tester is still a common sense voice. Make sure
they understand his voting record and make sure understand the issues.
Go to Timframt dot com. You can donate support us
five bucks, ten bucks with it more important than that,
(36:06):
look at the issues and communicate to your friends and families.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
So way everybody.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
One of the most important Senate races that is out
there right now be a huge pickup if you can win, Tim,
Best of luck to you on that one. When you win,
you're gonna have to come back on and hang out
with us again. And also, thank you for your service
with the Seal Teams. Appreciate you, sir, Thanks your support.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
We'll be back well one hundred percent, get you back,
and we'll make sure that you're flipping Fontana. Everybody out
there listening right now, get out there, do all the
work to put this guy in the Senate. Flip back
control break Tuesday, Buck, It's been a wild one. We'll
be back with you tomorrow in Milwaukee, continuing to break
down everything and more.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Thanks for hanging with me.
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