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April 25, 2024 • 56 mins
A true friendship podcast episode for those that have listened for a long time. the Iowa football specific content is sparse in this one, but Kevin, Grant, and Kluver put together an hour of fun and entertainment for the Walkon Army. We discuss a minimum transfer package from the Swarm, why the team sometimes has too many players on scholarship, the Spring semester compared to the Season relative to workload and physical demand, the upcoming NFL Draft, We talk Iowa's incoming OL transfer, and the outgoing Jacob Bostick, intrinsic vs extrinsic motivation, we check in with where Kevin would currently rank in the Air Force had he gone there out of high school, we discuss the world record Beer mile, and some other random dumb stuff.

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(00:00):
Best Hawkeye podcast in the world,but today not so much a Hawkeye podcast,
more of a friendship podcast. Ifsome of you have been around,
you know the vibe of the friendshippodcast. We just hang out. We
talk about our life. Grant's movingon in a couple of months to real
big boy job or whatever after college. Kevin's bachelor party is coming up.
Spring Ball just happened. We gota transfer, we had to transfer out.
We touched on a couple of preNFL draft topics, but otherwise,

(00:22):
let's just have a day. Let'sgo. Like if you flip it on

(00:52):
as a listener, as a consumerof the product, you know, I've
got a lot of great review onour intro. Music kind of leads them
into the show. I give thema little let's have a day right before
the right before the beat drop,and then it brings us into this segment
right here, Welcome into the show. By the way, another episode of
the wash Up Walk ons. Ilike the soft intro. We've kind of

(01:15):
been doing conversations and then I'll justsay, hey, welcome in. This
is very Joe Rogan esque, andthen we're just in the podcast. Now
we're here. How like they getthe music though, they get the music,
but because Kevin, Kevin got softand complain. I understand Kevin's point
though, where it's like, whywhy do we have the music if it

(01:36):
doesn't really like in the in theproduction side, It's like it doesn't really
need to be there running on juice. Man, it's a little just a
little bit of juice, I getit. You should be like smelling salts
before Yeah. Oh yeah, thatwould be great. Yeah, that would
be awesome. Great idea from GaryGbone on the on the side there we
just all have our own smelling salts. I can order that's that should be

(01:57):
pretty cheap. Yeah. I ordereda lunch of them when I was a
freshman. I just never got throughall them. There's somewhere in my basement
still is this for for workouts?No, not for workouts, just to
have just to have. Yeah,back when I was a study Oh not
not studying either, Back when Iwas a pledge for a fraternity, you
just had to have them on youat all times. Okay, someone need

(02:20):
to know that is. I justhad a bunch of them and I just
for some reason that checks out.Yeah, No, there's a I remember
I took one, uh, Itook it as if it's like a medicine
or you don't take anything. Yeah, you. I inhaled the smelling salt
all the time during the finals,and there's a video of it. It's
just like stay awakened. My friends, Like, dude, look like you're

(02:40):
in a car accident. Your headsnaps back. It's just so unnecessary.
Yeah, I unnecessary is a goodword for them. Well, I think
they and this is not a medicallike I don't know anything about medicine or
anything, but I believe that theystopped using them all the time because people

(03:00):
were injuring themselves, like in medicine. They would whip one, yeah,
they would, they would twitch.Yeah, you whipped back too hard when
they did, because they will.They will crack one if if someone's passed
out, right, Yeah, that'swhat I think. They're meant for us
to wake you up if you're unconscious. Wow, And people just like whip
their heads back and get more injuredthan they already were. That's insane.

(03:22):
Uh, We're glad you're here withus tonight. Kevin will be here,
said, he will be said,he'll probably be a little late, which
is just so nonchalant. And yeah, just it's a downer because it means
he probably could be here if hewanted to be right off the bat,
but he just like he'll be casualwith his dinner or whatever he's doing,

(03:43):
and then he'll show up on hisown time, which which is tough.
It's tough on only two out offour people in this whole operation really give
a full effort. And that's meand you and we can we can pop
us up a little bit. Gary, tonight will be uh, we'll call
it a bookkeeping episode, a littleadministra episode, but there's gonna be some
hawk I talk for sure. Springballjust wrapped up in Iowa City. Seems

(04:05):
like it was a week long becauseof the women's basketball run to the national
championship, and it essentially was aweek long. I can assure you that
it was five weeks long for theguys who are a part of it,
and it's probably felt a lot longer. I can guarantee that the boys,
though they do get a spring breakbefore spring ball, they come back and

(04:31):
the even with that week long break, those eight weeks to start the year
in the spring through the last day, the last Saturday, usually the open
practice of springball, it is justone of the most grueling periods of time
throughout the year. That's fourteen weeksfive to six plus eight. That's fourteen
weeks out of fifty two. Thatprobably matched the fourteen weeks of the season

(04:55):
if I had to they, Idon't know. I actually want to mark
that down and bring it back uponce Kevin jumps in here, because I'd
love to know from a guy whophysically went through it. It's very hard
for me to talk about the physicalwear down. I can talk about the
schedule and just the repetitiveness and theroutine, but physically how beat down are

(05:18):
you? I think it's probably justtwo different versions. But I would say,
like week one through the Big TenChampionship week if you're playing in it,
versus week one of the offseason throughthrough springball final days, they're similar
in a lot of senses. Wewill also talk about a couple of the

(05:43):
recruiting moves that have been made.I would just pick up a new recruit.
We lost a guy. I thinkwe're still over on scholarships over.
I think we're over. We mighthave to pull that up. Somebody in
the discord. I think ripped offthat we were like three or four scholarship
over really, which is an issue? How does that happen? It happens.

(06:05):
It happens because well, first ofall, COVID has Yeah, COVID's
thrown a wrench into all of this, So imagine that they give out.
So there's eighty five scholarships on ateam, right, and imagine they give
out. It's such an arbitrary number. Two. I wonder how they landed

(06:26):
on that. It's probably a percentageof like maximum roster or something. I
guess. I don't know if thereis a max roster size though, Like
you can technically have as many walkons as you want, Like most teams
just cap out somewhere around like oneten or one twenty because programs only build
locker rooms so large. But like, if you want, you could just

(06:48):
have a bunch of students come inand like, hey, you know,
play scout team. You're never gonnaplay. You don't even have a locker
but as long as you show upeach day with pads, like you can
be part of the team on ourroster. Uh, But I don't know.
Eighty five just seems I wonder howthey landed on that. It's probably
got something to do with the well, I don't know. Title nine,
uh has a lot of stuff todo with that, but like, yeah,

(07:11):
I feel like eighty five scholarships.There might not be eighty five scholarships
for women's sports in total. Onthe other side of things, so well
there has you have to have evendo you. I mean, where are
they getting that? Then? Wherewhat other sport? Like it's just like
everyone on swimming is on scholarship,like a long tennis is on scholarship.
So and as I was swimming anddive team back they were once gone like

(07:35):
COVID, I think we cut them. And yeah, the women's team,
there was a Title nine lawsuit thatbrought them back and I had one of
them on here Sage. Uh,her name was Sage. I brought I
brought her on. She was aswimmer, yeah, or a diver.
Nice. Yeah. See, Ithink they would be I think they're all
like the freshman then would be seniors. Now Okay, So anyway it happens

(08:01):
because one COVID COVID throws a wrenchinto things. Before this whole COVID thing,
they're running on a five year schedule, and if you divide up that
eighty five by it's not quite fiveyears, because I do think they like

(08:22):
to save in Iowa's case, atleast they like to save one or two
a year, four potential transfer.And that's going all the way back to
my time. That's ten years ago, like we brought for those that remember,
and I've been meaning to get himon the show at some point.
We just haven't gotten a time linkdown. Dylan kid punter for the twenty
fifteen and twenty twenty Jesus part ofthe twenty No it was just a twenty

(08:50):
fifteen season. I think I can'tI can't even remember, dude, I
had four punters and four years thatI started. Yeah, that's how it
worked. So Cornbreath was twenty fivefourteen, Dylan kicked twenty fifteen, Kalouozy
in twenty sixteen, and then andthen rastet Are in twenty seventeen. Wild
that's a whole nother story. Eachone of them help looks like fourteen and

(09:13):
fifteen. Let's see on the teamin fourteen, shared punting duties throughout the
twenty four You're right, you're right, you're right. He was there.
I remember him coming in. Hewasn't there when I got there. But
I got there in thirteen, Sothis is how far out we're getting.
Anyway, they like to save acouple for transfers, and I can name
several other transfers to something that workedout, some that didn't. So let's

(09:33):
say they take three off the bator off the table. Now divide eighty
two by five. What's that giveyou? Fifteen sixteen eighty two divided by
five. Yeah, sixteen times fiveis eighty. It's a it's a big

(09:54):
math show. We out here atsixteen point four. Yeah, so about
sixteen scholarship players in every class andeven. And so now you're saying to
yourself, it doesn't seem like we'vebrought in sixteen guys a year, And
that would be because for the lastfour years they've also been dealing with a
COVID year. So now you haveto divide that. And the transfer portal

(10:16):
has become a thing. So nowyou have to say, as a coaching
staff, how many scholarships do wewant to delegate towards the portal and towards
and towards COVID guys who are goingto use a sixth year? Do we
want to use a scholarship on them? Now? You're dividing that eighty you

(10:39):
know you're if you're taking out transferscholarships that you're holding for, you're not
dividing that eighty number by six,which brings you down to like thirteen thirteen
point five. So we should haveasked Brat when he was on here with
Swarm if they actually do that strategyof yeah, okay for the first year

(11:01):
because of the COVID years, likeyou're technically not can be on scholarship because
we don't have them, but somethem will be picking up the tab in
terms of the enrollment fees. Imean, if I was Brad in this
collective, I would make it.I would essentially make the for a transfer
who you're giving a deal like you'retrying to incentivize them with the collective money.

(11:24):
This isn't like, hey, you'regonna get five thousand bucks for doing
it, like come die with City, you'll get five or ten grand.
No one's moving schools or transferring schools, picking a school over other schools because
of five or ten grand anymore.If you're someone who sought after like that.
If I'm Brad in the collective,I figure out whatever that number is.

(11:45):
Most of them are not. Well, yeah, it's room and board
basically, so whatever, you know, average out a rent number for the
current members on the team, it'sprobably somewhere around like six hundred bucks.
And like what do you pay forrent? You probably don't want to say.
I'm not going to say, butokay, well paid. It's not

(12:07):
horrible, Okay, it could bea lot worse. And I say especially
especially especially ten years ago, butalso just because football guys will, I
mean, we would have lived tenguys to a house if it was legal,
and there was some several instances andwhere a couple of houses it seemed

(12:28):
like ten guys lived there At BentonStreet. The front house rent was something
like thirteen seventy five I want tosay, for the front house, which
had three bedrooms total. Oh okay, I was like dude for the back
house. For the back house ithad four, and I think rent was

(12:48):
like eighteen hundred bucks or something likethat. Okay, So so divide that
by four or divided by three.I think in both scenarios it comes out
to like four hundred bucks four fiftythen utilities, and then you've got utilities
on top of that, which islike I don't know, maybe another hundred
bucks is what we were paying.So all in you're at five hundred and
fifty bucks, so you you gotfive fifty times that. By twelve,

(13:11):
you're looking at, oh, seventhousand dollars or something like that, seven
seventy whatever. Add that on totuition, whatever tuition is for the year
or average the credits whatever they're gonnayou know, call it twelve credits.
And then there's probably some built inlike extra money there books are you know,

(13:35):
I don't know, three hundred semesterwhatever it maybe. And then that's
your minimum package, like, hey, here's twenty five grand or here's thirty
grand. Here's your minimum package tocome over. The swarm should be able
to do that at this point.I mean, we raised one hundred g's.
You're only bringing in like maybe oneor two of these guys a year,

(13:56):
so it's not like you got it'snot you got to shell out ten
of these packages. And basically theminimum transfer package is like, hey,
bare minimum, this is what you'regetting. We could talk from there,
but we're basically guaranteeing you enough tocover your expenses to go to the university.
Right anymore, I think you wouldhave to do that. But maybe

(14:18):
I'm stupid. I don't know.I don't know either. I could easily
be stupid as well. Maybe we'reboth stupid. Most likely, we're probably
both stupid. Okay, Uh,the reason why we're here and not run
enough collective? Yep, that's that'sa good point. I want to take
a quick second. Should have donethis. I don't know six weeks ago,

(14:41):
but if you listen to the podcast, you may have heard an advertisement
or two by my suite, justdelightful voice touting to you the Mitch King
insurance agency. Read and I wassupposed to welcome Mitch to the to the
brand into the show and then kindof just say a note about that a

(15:03):
month and a half ago. ButI'm a B tier podcaster, Okay,
so I want to officially welcome MitchKing for long time listeners to the show.
You may be asking yourself, MitchKing, well, that's great that
you're doing advertisements for him and hisand his insurance agency. Great. Haven't
had him as a guest on theshow. Don't worry. He's on the

(15:26):
list. We've talked about it.We'll have him on. We'll get Mitchell
and I think he'll be a fantasticguest. I also think that he is
a good connect to have back tothat mid two thousands era, because he's
going to have the phone numbers ofseveral other people that I would like to
get in touch with, so itcould be huge. It's all about who

(15:46):
you know, Grant, It's allabout who you know. I want to
take another second to recognize Caid.Many people who know just the boy.
I mean, it's just kid,right. He is the most active in
the discord. He is the bestcommenter on our YouTube channel, and I'm

(16:07):
sure he occasionally leaves comments on theinsta as well, but he just all
around interaction engagement with our posts andwith us. As a show, Caid
wins, he wins the trophy forthe last year or however long he's been
a part of this. So youlike Kate. He's a real one.
I like Katie and we're not talkingabout Kid McNamara. We'll talk about him

(16:30):
in a second. But I runin a Kaid a decent amount. I
feel like arcade arcade. Okay,yeah, I've never ran into Kate mcnama
before. I don't think he's everlike. I don't think he's frequenting downtown
that often he's not. Really that'sgood news. Yeah, I mean the

(16:52):
more you can keep a guy,in my opinion, the more you can
keep a guy out of downtown.Uh, maybe the better that is.
I could be wrong, we couldbe a different spots, but you're right,
he could be. And then whatelse do we have? I want
to call people to uh support us, okay on the Patreon they should Kevin,

(17:15):
Hello, soup guys. How youdoing that? It feels like it's
been forever since we sat down andtalked. Uh we were on the podcast,
uh two days ago? Two twodays ago? What with CIRs?
Certainly, certainly we're not on itthree days ago? Whatever? That day

(17:37):
that was five whatever? Five daysis not forever, you know, it
is not forever as well. Towait until next Thursday that is ten days,
right, seems like a short amountof time. I can't fucking wait.
Man, It's gonna be a goodtime. That's foot party. Oh

(17:57):
yeah, oh yeah. Vegas ain'tready, bro Ye, I'm sure Vegas
is very much ready. And wewon't even blink at our crew out there.
Dude, Vegas has never seen anythinglike our group, bro. Yeah,
it should be a good time.Boys. My family asked me about

(18:18):
it because they know this is thefirst time that I'll have uh trecked out
to Vegas. Yeah, and theyknow this is just like my grandma and
my end. They're like, you'regoing with Like, who's all going?
It's like, Oh, this isthe guys I lived with in college,
like the house. And then Kevinhas his group of friends from from back
home and they were like, Oh, that's quite the group. And I

(18:40):
was like, yeah, I'm prettyexcited just to be an observer who is
a part of this group. Iget to basically witness the ship show that
is and will happen. I'm veryexcited about it. It's gonna be a
good time, and I would encourageyou to be a part of the ship
show. You know me, Iprefer to observe when ship shows are a

(19:03):
thing, and I don't like tobe the ship show. But we'll see,
we'll see what happens. We're therefor a while. Most of us
are getting an early Thursday, sothat's a full three days in Vegas,
which I hear after two you're prettymuch most people are pretty much good.
Thursday'd be a pretty same day.We won't do anything too crazy on Thursday,
That's true. How is it overthere? How's the vibes over there

(19:25):
in Iowa City Coralville areas. It'sa beautiful day out today at got some
patio beers at backpacket this afternoon.Actually, it's a good day. I
love that either of you attend thespring open practice this week? Did not
know yesterday was actually a pretty shittyday. Yeah it was. It was
cold, right yeah? No,And yeah, a bunch of a bunch

(19:47):
of house projects going on, soI didn't get to leave the house yesterday.
Are you like doing some do somelegitimate home home renovation or what I
wouldn't say home renovation, but youknow, like hanging up a a bunch
of curtains and cheers and shirgonades anda bunch of other stuff unless they had
to her wedding shower of the weekendprior, so I had about forty gifts

(20:11):
to unwrap and find homes for andyou know all that stuff. Sure,
well, I was waiting for you, keV for two things. One,
I wanted to read our most recentand new review of the podcast Always a
Good Time. It's a positive one, which is less of a good time.
Yeah, but we do appreciate thosewho have kind words for us.

(20:33):
So this is from t doogal isthe uh is the account name. This
was about a month ago. Thequote unquote most entertaining Iowa podcast out there.
Uh, And I believe that's becauseI sometimes opened the show with that
on the on the on the running. As a washed up former college athlete,

(20:55):
myself never heard this one. Theseclown cocks remind me of how great
it was to be part of alocker room and to make lifelong friends as
a result of grinding with each other. That wording there could have been better.
Uh. We did grind with eachother, though. As the workouts
and games fade away, those connectionsremain and turn to life experiences, careers,

(21:18):
families, et cetera. You guyshave figured out a great balance between
friendship pod and breaking down the gamesin season, all of you guys remind
me of somebody in my circle ofteammates and make washup walk On's way too
relatable. Hopefully Drake can bounce backfrom his sore vagina and and it rekindle
his passion that he had early onKluve, Kevin and g Bone. Kudos
to strapping it up and providing forthe fans with the content we love.

(21:40):
Thank you gentlemen, hashtag hawks bya Milli and Epstein didn't kill himself,
Thank you. T Dougie. Whatdo he cause? Cock? What?
Cock? Clown? Cox? ClownCox. That's a new one. Yeah,
original. I haven't heard that onebefore. I have never heard that
one. We'll take compliment. Ithink it is. I mean it was.

(22:03):
I'm gonna take Yeah, you're you'reright, You're right. I'm gonna
take it as one. Uh speakingof it's a nice haircut there, Grant,
Well, thank you appreciate it.Trying to look good for your your
graduation ceremony next week. Uh,it's in. He's almost scared me.
It's not next week. It's intwo weeks somehow weeks? Okay, three?
How do we feel about that?I did see some kids out out

(22:26):
and about, like taking pictures outby Carver or some by Kinnick. Uh
yeah, you know, in theirrobes and stuff, starting to graduation pictures
thing. Yeah. I got theregalia this week, which was kind of
crazy. So I gotta shoot here. It is coming steemed and established now
that you're going to be a collegeground uh, steamed. I'm not sure.
Uh but uh yeah, I meanit'll be it'll be interesting, it'll

(22:48):
be I don't know what it's liketo not be a student, so it'll
be it's a different change. It'sweird. Yeah, I was. It
was the best thing ever for me. I I remember like since basically like
eighth grade, like I can't waituntil I'm done with school, and it
was it was like revolutionary. It'slike, I don't have the last class

(23:10):
I went to. I remember thelast class I went to. I walked
out and I was like, areyou shitting me? Holy shit? Oka,
Yeah, I'm basically an adult oryeah, it'll be fun though exciting
time. It is fun. Doyou have any plans any any any movement

(23:30):
on the job search or adult lifemoving forward. I do not have a
job. I'm I guess plans wise, I might be doing there's like working
through some right now. We mightbe doing summer in Chicago cool, so
that could be fun. But outsideof that, like I don't really know.

(23:51):
We were kind of in Chicago somefriends or what's the deal. Yeah,
with some friends just crashing couches untillike and so someone like said,
hey, rent due and I'm like, all right, next couch, We're
going somewhere else. Honestly, Ibet there's a lot of people out there
that would tell you that's the lifeto live until you until you really find
something solid. You don't want toforce anything. I mean, yeah,

(24:11):
I'd crash on Kevin's couch. Kevin'scouch still to this day, if I
could, honestly some day, Yeah, come on by man got a couple
of spare bedrooms. Speaking of thistotally personal and non related to the podcast.
But do you want to Are yougonna come stay that Wednesday night before
we fly out or we don't?I might? Yeah, I actually I
changed my flight a little bit,Okay, so I'm yeah I might.

(24:34):
Okay, that's cool. Yeah,you say me, you find out nine
am, mine's at seven thirty,Okay, I'll go early. I don't
give it. Yeah, I meanwell, I mean probably honestly if you
still drive separate because when we gocome home, I'm going to go straight
though. That's true, that's true. So all right, cool. Well,

(24:59):
you know we like you around here, Grant. We don't want you
to get into We don't want youto take any jobs that are going to
require like eighty one hundred hours aweek out of you because because we require
our like five to ten three hoursa week out of you, it's necessary.
Man. You can't be interfering withthat. Yeah, yeah, I
understand the importance of the free labor. It's it's very iglorious. Yeah,

(25:23):
yeah, I get it, dude. It's uh, you're the I will
say the growth that we've had sinceyou've come on is significant, noticeable and
uh, very very important. OurInstagram account has over tripled since you've since

(25:44):
you've come on. What's going on? Road to ten K? Road to
ten k? Did we cross thefive k mark? Oh? Yeah,
yeah, we're at fifty six hundred. Way to go. G Bone Yeah,
g Bones crushing mostly on the backsof South Carolina fans pissed that they
thought we were trying to take shotsat it. No, I still don't

(26:07):
get that. I mean, we'relike saying that they're a very good team.
They saw a clip and thought thatwe were hating. They just immediately
saw black and gold and they're like, oh, they're complaining or like I
don't know, but yeah, Imean obviously I have not heard one single
fan come up to me or inperson or in the DMS or on comments,

(26:27):
say, man, horrible ad thatGrant guy, like they should exist.
Yeah, there is. I doknow that there is a contingent of
the Grant haters, but I don'tthink they're Grant haters. I don't think
they're Grant haters. I think Ishould see my DMS. Nobody doing better

(26:48):
than you has ever hated, hasever hated on you. So just remember
that we oh draft weekend, thisweekend upcoming. Oh yeah, uh,
Cooper is obviously going to be aI mean, should be a first round
pick. Got a couple of jackwagons out there, maybe project him in

(27:12):
the early second round. He dropsit there, then everybody's dumb as shit?
Uh is he? He's not gonnabe a Bronco. But in your
mind, Grant, how dare youwith what draft picks the Broncos got twelve?
Yeah, they could trade down.I don't want them to trade down.

(27:33):
We have you want them to takehim at twelve. I just want
us to trade up to like fiveor six just to take him there.
I just I want us to justuse like we we have keep our players,
like all the like trade up tosix stuff is like, oh,
we're just gonna get rid of Sutton. It's like, no, that's like
the one thing that's working right now. We have to keep that. Uh

(27:56):
So, like I don't know,I don't want to shell off any of
our experience ports already or lose.Well, you did that with Josie.
We know he's gone. We didshow off Josie. That's it is unfortunate.
I would I requested that they did. They didn't listen. So we'll
get Josie on here at some pointthis offseason. We can talk about that.
Uh she just put a hot micon him in Vegas Week and just

(28:19):
just release that I do have.I've got the mobile mic like these little
this little thing right here. Imean, could you sneak in his pocket
without him knowing? Absolutely? Look, it's that big. I mean,
can probably just throw it in hishoodie that that's what he's not saying.

(28:41):
It is not saying. It's aperfectly legal way to make content, but
to make phenomenal content. We bugJosie, yeah, and for for four
days straight, and then we blackmailhim for thirty percent of his contract.
I mean see how that goes poorly, right, especially because we just told
everyone that we're gonna do it.Uh. I saw that Cooper took visits

(29:03):
to like I don't know if eitherYeah, Pittsburgh, I think Philadelphia,
m maybe not Philly. I knowthat he's projected to Philly in a lot
of drafts or in mock drafts.He took. He took visits with like
four teams because and I don't knowwhat these like's they've got a name for

(29:29):
him, like something thirty Like,I don't know what they are, what
they mean, but you could dolike visits with teams. I think they're
like personal workouts, and you getso many of them. He took four
because he only had four days todo it after he was cleared to run.
And the Bills was one of them. The Steelers were one of them.
With the teams that basically he's beensort of reported as being in touch

(29:52):
with the most, it sounds likehe's gonna be going out East likely and
h he's gonna have a nice littlerookie contract. He's he's gonna get a
good signing bonus. He's going tocontinue, uh, the legacy of first
round Hawkeye draft picks. And we'reexcited about that. Did we ever talk
about Cooper? Did you guys seethe Cooper He sent a letter to all

(30:17):
the NFL. I think it waslike like every NFL owner about like the
health of his leg no or theyeah, I think he like. I
don't know if I think it waslike all gms. He like him.
His agent sent a letter once hewas cleared. It was like a reminder,
I'm good to go. It's probablylike standard practice. It would have
been really cool if it looked likethe letter from bench warmers. I am

(30:41):
twelve. Yeah, it's just likethe way I roll the I my leg
is healthy, signed Cooper magine.No, that's what it felt like.
The way the way like Schefter didthe original tweet. It felt like he
wrote like handwritten letters like hey,I appreciate you, like he's doing like
thank you note, Hey why notcan't hurt? Yeah, I'd write thirty

(31:04):
thank you notes. I mean everyuh, every draft spot you go downs
like one hundred grand I think it'smore. I think it's more than that
in a lot of places. Yeah, it depends. But yeah, drafts
will be fun. I don't knowhow the Broncos are gonna do. Uh.
I wish I had a team.This is this is one of those

(31:25):
moments where I wish I had ateam I could get excited about who are
we gonna get this year. It'sfunny though, the way that Cyrles talked
about the draft last episode was reallyinteresting. Actually, I hadn't thought about
it that way, as this yearbeing sort of a down year, next
year being just loaded with talent.It makes me excited about it. Like
day one, the first round isjust gonna be loaded as always. Right,

(31:47):
Yeah, and there's there's some dudesin that first round. I have
some dudes, Okay, but yeah, I mean he I think he made
a great point. It's like daythree, guys are not guaranteed to be
making their teams next year. Yeah, kind of crazy. Yeah. We
did a podcast with David i Culttwo episodes ago. Let's get into the

(32:10):
Iowawkeyes now, just for a second. Iowa picked up a offensive line recruit.
Oh he went to Southeast Polk.Didn't know that. Uh, North
Dakota offensive line transfer Caid bord OrBowrid will visit Iowa this weekend. I
think he then committed. He hasthree years of eligibility remaining, listed at

(32:34):
six two three oh five and aproduct originally of Southeast Polk High School,
so North Dakota and North Dakota State, North Dakota, Okay. We also
lost a guy on scholarship one thatI bring up. I cult because I
coult and you wouldn't have here heardthis because again I cut it out,
but I could. When Grant askedhim, Hey, who's who's some guys

(32:54):
we can look out for? Hegave us the name. Last name was
Hey Jacob Bostik. Guy's an athlete, He's long, he can run,
made a couple of plays on specialteams. Literally, not even twenty four
hours after we recorded that Jacob Bosticin the portal. So tough for the

(33:14):
Hawks, tough for the podcast.That kid was an athlete too. He
was a really really great athlete,is a great athlete. He will be
a great athlete for somebody. Dowe know where he's going, dude,
I don't. I have no idea. The portal. The portal is it
literally is like a mystical, magicalthing. And I don't think there's any

(33:36):
rules to it. I don't thinkanybody's enforcing it. It's it's you get
sucked in. Everyone's eligible. Nobody'seligible. Kevin and I both have two
years of eligibility left, probably somewhere. I mean, can we get in
the portal? What if you ifyou could play another year, but it
had to be like D two orthe three, would you go play?

(34:00):
That's a good question. Would yousuit up for the Roads Links? And
probably not the roads Links? Unfortunately? You know, keV. I would
not no, no, not atlong snapper. No you saying over a
position? You would if I couldplay linebacker, I'd go play. I'd

(34:22):
get on some some HGH or somegear and gain fifteen pounds of muscle and
and be a two fifteen to twentylinebacker. And uh and I'd go play
linebacker somewhere. But I'll tell youthis, like I don't love football in
any way, shape or form towhere like I just long no pun intended

(34:44):
to long snap again, you know, like run out there with the boys
for seven more reps in a gamewhere I can throw a ball back to
a holder or a punter. Yeah, you know, Like but if I
could get if I could go inthere and get fifty snaps in a game
and tackle, I mean my bodywould hurt bad, but I would do
that. I would. I woulddefinitely go do that at a D two
school. I go play it,I go play it. Is there any

(35:07):
like semi pro leagues around like obviouslynot like XFO or whatever. The new
league is the shoot Act, justas signed with the Arena League the Indoor
League. Yeah, yeah, youwant to go play in the Arena League
if someone would take me, likethe Barnstormers still around, I don't know
if I'm I don't. I'm notgood enough to play linebacker for the Barnstormers

(35:30):
at twenty nine years old, andI was already slow. I mean,
I'm probably just as fast, tobe honest, but I'm not good enough
to play like you know, itwould have to I'd have to to play
linebacker legitimately and beat people out.I would have to go and play at
like Warburg. Is that as Warburg? No, I'm a great sounds like

(35:54):
certing on I get. I guaranteeyou there's at least one or two Wartburg
fans or players even I know thereare. It's not It wasn't a distant
Warburg. I was a more thanqualified at one point Division three linebacker.
Like I was a good athlete,I'm still a great athlete relative to your

(36:16):
average twenty nine year old, likeI'm other than like Kevin maybe like in
one in a thousand people out there, age twenty nine years old, I'm
still a better athlete by far thanmost of them. And I could play
linebacker D three, probably still today, But I don't just to tackle somebody

(36:38):
like I'm not. But it'd betough to run out in Kinnick fifty three
times in a row and then runout in front of like, you know,
the parents fans at Warburn. Yousee, you don't see the thing
that you're exchangeically motivated. Clue,guy, it's got to come from with
that, and guys have the loveof the past. I know, I'm
I'm admitting to that I was fullyas a long snapper trying to go D

(37:01):
one. I was almost one hundredpercent extrinsically motivated. I was only in
it because we got to be infront of seventy thousand fans and I got
to wear the name on the backof the Hawkeye jersey. Like the intrinsic
grew as we were there, likebecause I like to compete with you guys
and prove to myself that I couldbelong and as an athlete. But I

(37:23):
never got to show that on thefield. I mean, so it was.
You know, I always talk abouthow my game days were, like
you know, our our summer trainingdays, like sure skills and drills stuff
like that, like games that wewould play, like trying to feel like
you don't love ball. I thinkI'm on record of not loving ball.
I don't know. I mean Iam, I am not, And I

(37:45):
never have claimed to be one ofthese guys who's just like man. Like
I had teammates in high school.Everybody does, and I respect the hellut
them. They just love football,they or basketball. They don't want to
stop playing. I have a couplebuddies now who played Division three basketball and
they love the game so much andjust love to compete, and you know,

(38:05):
and they had the opportunity to goplay a D three That was not
me. I was this And weknow I'm an asshole, right, I'm
a sociopath. I don't just documented. I don't have feelings like I'm not
that guy who was just going togo play Division III basketball just to keep
playing, or to play Division threefootball just to keep playing. Like I
very much show was trying to goD one and have that experiment, experience

(38:29):
long snapping happened to provide that forme. We took that. We took
that opportunity and uh, otherwise Idon't know, could have just gone to
the Air Force like Kevin had theopportunity to do. Man fucking should have
Matt, Like, can you imagineright now? I mean, you'd you'd
be highly ranked in the Air Forceright now. I see, I would

(38:50):
have already been done with my firstso I would have had to re up
if I wanted to still be init, right Yeah, yeah, I
think you have like scheduled promote asthey told him. I think it was
after after four years, you gotpromoted to a captain as long as like
he didn't fuck up anywhere along theway. Can you look up the like
the ranks within the Air Force,So i'd be at least a captain by

(39:12):
now. That'd be so sick captainin the Air Force. Yeah, just
flying planes, dude. Yeah,it'd be kind of busy right now.
Yeah, it'd be a busy timeto be in the Air Force. Be
kind of sick. I mean,you wouldn't be here on this podcast,
which is obviouly way cooler. Butoh here we go. Rant's cut it

(39:32):
up on the sun. Uh So, you know, I don't know if
there's a lot to pull from springgame. The one thing I saw was
Cade is still not full go.I think KF said in the press conference
he expects him to be full goby June or July, because what he
tore it was it late September orfirst game of October. Sounds right,

(39:58):
yeah, maybe October. So what'sout October, November, December, January,
favorue, March, April, May, June. Nine months. Yeah,
he saw he's like seven months outright now. Yeah. Yeah,
there's no reason to have him beingout there. Yeah, and it's not
his first time, right. Uhso that's that adds to it with recovery
and stuff. You want to pullthose up Grant, oh hell yeah yeah.

(40:22):
If you're E one, E two, just basic. Yeah, you
come out of the academy, you'realready a lieutenant. So you gotta find
staff sergeant, technical sergeant, mastersergeant, go to the officers. You're
in the enlisted right now. Oh, here we go, here we go,
here we go. Oh yeah,Kevin would have some of these gold

(40:45):
bars or something, a couple ofgold bars, a couple of silver bars.
There it is captain, Captain CaptainKevin Ward. God, that sounds
good. You messed up Oftenive Timelandman could have been interesting. It could
have been interesting. I've told Laurenseveral times, like, if my life
took a different turn at I thinkI've told Drake on this on DHD as

(41:07):
well, if my life just liketook a different turn, if long snapping
wouldn't have worked out. There's likea very very small percentage of me that
feels like I could have been acould have been in the military, could
have done it. Yeah, Butit also comes from a mindset that I
and a physical capability now later on, like ten years later, that I

(41:28):
did not have when I was eighteen. I wouldn't uh, Like, I'm
pretty sure I wouldn't have passed alot of the tach like I wouldn't have
made it out of Basic. Imean, dude, I was. I
was a fat lard of shit,uh coming out of coming out of high
school. So probably think you don'tthink you could have done the like the

(41:49):
physical test, Oh dude, II mean I don't know what. I
don't know what tests you need topass out of basic training. Well,
you have to do a test toget into the school. I don't let
me tell you this. Dude running, there's no shy. I don't care
what the time was to beat forrunning, even if it was slow dude
running. I was it a onepoint five mile two mile to one and

(42:15):
a half mile run, basic training? One mile one point five mile run?
What's what's the time that i'd haveto complete that in? Uh?
Let's find out? Hold on,let me tell you I would have been
dragging in at the I would havebeen last. I would be the last
guy. I looked like a stickof butter coming out of high school,
the hell liberator with a thunderbolt.Twelve minutes is the absolute minimum standard,

(42:40):
it seems, so you have torun an eight minute mile. Yeah,
I'll be real honest, boys,for a mile and a half. We
would have had two absolutely, Andobviously if you decide you're going to do
that, you start doing a littlerunning and calistenics and push ups and all
that. I would have been draggingin right at twelve minutes for a mile
and a half. Back then itwould have been bad news bears, and

(43:01):
I might have thrown up doing it. I don't think I could do I
don't know if you don't think youcould do it? Now, I'm not.
I'm not running a lot right now, all right, I understand,
I understand, I don't know.Maybe what do you think you could turn
in a mile and a half inright now? Okaymm like best my best

(43:24):
effort right now, like right now? Yeah, today President going out to
the track, like right after weyeah we go run, yeah, we
go run twelve laps on the trackor no, six laps on the truck,
six laps. I could probably definitelyunder ten. Yeah, I would
say probably around nine thirty. Icould probably flirt with a nine minute.

(43:50):
Yeah. I was gonna say theexact same thing. I don't think I
break nine, but I can definitelybreak nine thirty. But I'm also super
dolled right now in the middle ofa half marathon. Probably no, I
think I could the six minute pace. I'll say right around nine. Yeah,
be fun. We should do.Though it wouldn't be fun, it
would actually hurt. I don't wantto be right now because I had a
couple of beers earlier, so Iactually it's going up it at least thirty
seconds, So right this minute,a couple of beers in I'm I'm guessing

(44:14):
you don't break nine minutes. AlthoughI have ran the beer mile before,
you've done the beer mile. Yeah, me and Ryan did the beer mile
last year. Ryan did the beermile. Ryan was the one who wanted
to do the beer Oh I'm doingthe beer mile. I want to come
do with me. I'm like,you know what, you know what the
world record beer mile is. It'slike something. It's like in the four

(44:35):
minutes. Correct, it's absolutely insane. I think it's like four to thirty
seven. Great insane, dude,it's so crazy. Yeah. No,
that second beer after that goes downlike that next lap hurts a lot.
That third beer, Oh my god, for twenty eight So that's more impressive

(44:58):
than a sub format. This insane. Oh one hundred percent. That's a
sub four mile and it only takesyou twenty eight seconds to chug four beers.
My cross country friends are not goingto be happy. But no,
it's not so much that man,it's it's running with forty eight ounces of
beer in you right. Also thatwho is this guy? He Corey Corey

(45:22):
Bellamore. This man is absurd.He's built who who he is as a
fucking legends who He's an absolute Kingbecause I can't. Have you seen the
Caniac mile. I have seen theKniac mile. You got it. You
gotta split it up whatever way youwant, and then you've got the pop,
the chicken tenders, uh, thefries, and the bread. It's

(45:45):
like, yeah, it's either toastor or something about it. I guess
you'd probably want to go Cole sawthere ly don't want you you split up
like after a lap. You haveto either have the soda, the like,
the tenders or the fries or thelike. You have to have a
part of the Keniac meal. Ohoh, so you have to each one

(46:07):
of the four things, and weshould find a local track in Vegas.
Can you have to finish them?Yeah, you have to finish it before
you're definitely finished with the pop,Right, that's gonna be the last thing.
I don't know that that pop's gonnabe hard to How big is the
potty slam? You gotta get atwenty ounce pop twenty four? You want
to start with the pop? You'regoing, oh man, uh, in

(46:29):
my mind, yeah you probably,Man, it might be might be nice.
Easier to harder is in the food. So I'm probably gonna start with
like the fries and then go tolike the tenders. Then you're gonna start
with the fries, I think so. Yeah, Oh dude, it sounds
awful either way. There's no goodway to do this. It doesn't sound
like or. I guess cole Slaw'sthe fourth thing. Maybe start with the

(46:50):
Cole slot. I've seen the Crispymile as well, which is a Krispy
Kreme a dozen. You eat threedonuts before each mile. Yeah, just
eating a dozen donuts Krispy Kremes inone sitting. That's that'll put you down.
Now, put you down. It'snot easy, man, I talk
about a way to Tampa. Wewent and got a dozen east for ourselves.

(47:13):
I feel like it took me atleast half an hour to put him
down. Yeah, and you feltlike shit? I remember horrible. Yeah.
I think I only ate ten ofmy twelve and save two for the
next morning. And h and Ifelt horrible. Are you allowed to like
just walk the four laps and justeat the twelve donuts as you go because
that might be faster? Honestly?Oh no, no, no, no,
no, no, you can't.You can't be moving while you're consuming.

(47:35):
That's the rule on any of those. Yeah, now that one sounds
bad. Which whoever loses think,I don't know whoever whoever is gonna if
you guys get the handicaps figured outfor your golf round out in Vegas.
But whoever loses, whoever is determinedthat to golf the worst that day,
we should make them do a KrispyKreame mile before the rest of the trip
ensues and make him do it downthe strip. We have a golf tournament

(48:00):
update about a month out. Uh. Yeah, anybody at this point can
contact me if they would like tobe a part of the golf tournament the
Patreon. I sent that out toeverybody who uh to everybody who DM me?
Uh. If I did not respondto you or uh, I guess
the best at this point, tryand keep it. Let's let's try and

(48:20):
narrow in where I'm being contacted atTwitter or Instagram. DM me personally and
I will get you the information ifyou're looking for it. Again as an
upfront thing, this is a higherticket kind of deal. Uh. Entry
fee is largely predicated on the factthat we are trying to raise mucho Dinara
Denaros Denaros for for the children Utrode Naro for the children. So it's

(48:45):
not your it's not your average Like, hey, it's three hundred and eighteen
at the municipal round at the UNUSOgolf Course twilight. Sure, uh and
uh yeah, So anybody contact meif you want to be a part of
it. It's eighteen for reading.I think we're I think we're upwards of
twenty seven. I think we're gonnatry and stick a We're gonna try and

(49:07):
go because we want is I mean, if we have the people to do
it right, eighteen for sure,and then anything past that we'll kind of
manage and maybe stick in there.And we'll see you want to give some
like highlighted names so that we canlike incentive Well, yeah, I mean
it's gonna be us US four.Drake is coming into town for it.

(49:29):
I think I've told him to bookhis flight twice. I don't know if
he's done it. We'll have Josie, Bo and Ike who are all coming
into town for it. Uh.And then Anger said that he's in as
long as his kid doesn't have abaseball tournament something. Yeah, I'm gett
I'm gonna have to reconnect on that. Dallas Clark same thing. Keith Duncan

(49:52):
cole Fish, who I work outwith every day. He said he'd gladly
come be a celebrity for it.He's pretty good offer think. Uh yeah,
he likes to golf a lot.Uh and uh several other names as
well. That we are trying tolock down for sure. Uh we have
carts right Oh yeah, okay,yeah you get you get your own cart.

(50:13):
Not walking. You don't have towalk, promise. But yeah,
I was gonna make you carry mybag, Grant caddy? Can you get
caddy for Kevin? That's gonna sayHardy wants uh get that? Oh no,
you just cut out, Grant.I'm sorry. Yeah, I was
saying for as long as I'm workingfor free, that caddy is. Ah,

(50:36):
we're gonna have to talk. Idon't know. I'm gonna explicitly tell
my fourth on your they're not allowedto tip you either. It stuff.
Yeah, tonight was really this iswhat tonight was. I don't have a
whole lot else there's uh, Iwe gotta work on getting some more guest
scheduled here otherwise. Uh, it'sit's we're getting into the heat of the

(50:57):
off season. It's just it's thedry season. Man, it is is
as dry as Utah here right now. I mean we're talking if if things
start to pick up in early August, you know, the buzz starts to
happen, you know, big tenmedia days, all that stuff starts to
get you start to feel that aroundIowa City, you start to feel that
football weather starts to come in.We're dead. We're dead in the middle

(51:21):
from that and when the bowl gameended, right now, we need Iowa
Baseball to go on like a Worldseries run here unlikely planned. Hey,
big big one over Rutgers today.I think we swept. Saw that in
the series. Saw that boy Brodyplaying well. As long as Brody gets
paid, That's all I care about. Okay, we have that hitting those

(51:45):
pumps right Oh yeah, just acouple of pumps. I mean, hopefully
no one's hitting any pumps off ofhim. But I love the verbiage.
I mean, I've never he hadthe coolest slang that I've ever heard.
Bags. What was the strikeouts approach? Case? I don't I don't know,
but pumps and bags? I mean, dude, like, yeah,

(52:06):
guy had like thirty pumps and fifteenbags. It was the coolest thing.
That's ever been said on this podcast, Like I could totally see how that
could be. Yeah, you seethose like tiktoks or those reels of like
hockey players and their slang like likea hit with an upper decky and we
you know, like uh, andI'm just like, so, hockey's got
their own slang. Baseball guys havetheir own slang. Football doesn't really have

(52:27):
that. There's no like subculture offootball. It's like, you know,
there's just like a slang word fortackles or like touchdowns. You know.
It's just like I would say,sometimes you guys go in on stuff and
I just shake my head. Really, zero clue you guys talking about Okay,
like we're talking about like actual indepth football stuff. Yeah, likes
some like play like x came.I'm sure, but that's just that's just

(52:52):
verbage of like whatever I would decidedto not really slang. Yeah, I
don't know. I do know this. I'm going to be eating a two
scoop hot Fudge Sunday from Culver's immediatelyonce we hit the end recording button,
so I have I have no otherreason to be here. I want you
to have a fantastic Sunday. Iwant you guys to Kevin, you drink

(53:15):
another beer if you want no morebeers? Okay, uh grant, I
want you how many classes do youhave left? And you get you got
to narrow one down here, Wellwe gotta this is like lock in week.
You got finals. Well, thisis like I have a capstone class.
That's yeah, presentation. It's moreof a project project, but yeah,

(53:37):
solo project, no group. Butwe love that. We love that.
We like we you know, asa college student, we've had an
entire SUPs to do something and we'vewaited till the last minute to Actually that's
what we like to man, that'swhat we like. I regret nothing,
but yeah, it's time to we'reabout to lock in. You want to
know, you want to know whatI heard about procrastination one time? Is

(54:01):
it's it? Maybe you may beable to classify it as procrastination, but
if you have a record of everytime you have something to do and you
wait till the last minute to doit, and then because you have to
cram it into that you're super efficientand you're just flying through it, and
when you actually have to put thepen to paper, you actually have to
you know, be creative and getthis project done. You crank it out

(54:22):
and you've just always done it thatway, then there's nothing to worry about.
Just do it that way. Yeah, am I. You back yourself
into a corner and you step upand you hit. You don't give yourself
another choice, right, you hita pump. If you think about it,
if you had worked on this projectaw semester, you know, not
a whole lot of fire under yourass. You know, you might have

(54:45):
you know, meandered around a littlebit around it. It might have taken
you fifty hours, but if youwait till the last week, you might
get it done in ten. Absolutely. Yeah, And that's called efficiency.
That's efficient product procrastinator or am Iis good under pressure. Absolutely. I
feel that's kind of like the uhwhat do they always say? It's like,

(55:05):
hey, like you know, thesmartest people actually have messy desk.
You know. It's like, areyou just you're just giving yourself an excuse
to me have a messy desk?It could be a little bit of both,
It could be a little bit ofboth. Yeah. I hope everybody's
having a fantastic week out there inthe walk On Army. The Hawkeye Nation
we love you. Subscribe to thePatreon you'll hear it again on the outro.

(55:28):
Thanks for joining the walk Ons.We'll be back with some more guests
here soon. We're gonna try andmake this dry season a little more wet.
And I don't think that's how Iwanted that to come out, or
really come across at all, Butwe want to make you wet. So
what we're gonna, We're gonna youcould you could have, would have taken
so little effort, just wishing,wish them well, and we aim to

(55:50):
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