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The third presidential debate – as it happened

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Thu 20 Oct 2016 05.42 EDTFirst published on Wed 19 Oct 2016 09.09 EDT
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Wallace quotes from a Clinton email released by Wikileaks in which she says, “My dream is a hemispheric common market with open trade and with open borders.”

Trump: “Thank you.”

Clinton: “I was talking about energy. We trade more energy with our neighbors than we do with the rest of the world combined.”

Clinton: What’s really important about Wikileaks is that the Russian government has engaged in espionage against Americans... this has come from the highest levels... from Putin himself... to influence this election.

The most important question of this evening, she says: “Finally will Donald Trump admit that Russia is doing this?” And will he reject Putin?

“That was a great pivot,” Trump says. Crowd laughs.

Hillary Clinton on screen. Photograph: Lucy Nicholson/Reuters
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Mona Chalabi
Mona Chalabi

Donald Trump has returned to a recurring theme of his candidacy - that immigrants drive up crime. It’s a false claim.

Since 1990, violent crime rates have fallen as immigration to the US has risen. The American Immigration Council analyzed the 2010 American Community Survey and found that roughly 1.6% of immigrant males age 18-39 are incarcerated, compared to 3.3% of the native-born.

Trump points out that Barack Obama has increased deportations. “We even have a country or we don’t. ... Now you can come back in and you can become a citizen.”

This is a relatively moderate Trump speaking. He sounds almost... reasonable, if you can get past any policy disagreement you might have with him.

Clinton: “We will not have open borders... this used to be a bipartisan issue.”

Wallace gets control, with effort.

Trump with a bombshell: “Hillary Clinton wanted the wall.”

Clinton: “I voted for border security and there are some limited places where that was appropriate.. but it is clear when you look at what Donald has been proposing... that he has a very different view about what we should do.”

She’s running circles around him? This debate so far seems to be playing to Clinton’s strengths, policy expertise, and not to Trump’s strengths – fired

Trump speaks as the debate turns to ‘the wall’. Photograph: Win McNamee/Getty Images
Richard Wolffe
Richard Wolffe

It didn’t work at his convention, but at this late stage of the election, Donald Trump has nowhere left to go. Undocumented immigrants are murderers and rapists. The country is in mortal danger. Heroin is poisoning the blood of the youth. The problem for Trump is that scare tactics didn’t work in the summer, and they’re not working in the fall. All those supposedly bad, bad people don’t drive lots and lots of votes.

Clinton on Trump's Mexico trip: 'He choked'

Clinton: I met a young girl in Las Vegas. Karla. She was born in this country. Her parent were not. She’s worried. “I don’t want to rip families apart. I don’t want to be sending parents away from children. I don’t want to see the deportation force that Donald has talked about in action in our country.”

“It means you would have to have a massive law enforcement presence... rounding up people who were undocumented. And we would have to put them on trains on buses to get them out of the country.. I think that it is an idea that would rip our country apart.”

She’s for border security but wants to prioritize violent criminals for deportations...Now an attack: “at [Trump’s] meeting with the Mexican president, didn’t even mention it [the wall]. He choked. And then got into a Twitter war.”

Mona Chalabi
Mona Chalabi

The candidates strongly disagree on abortion - and so does the US public. Polling from Gallup suggests that national opinion is split almost equally on this subject, and has been for four decades.

US public opinion abortion
US public opinion abortion Photograph: Gallup

On to immigration.

Trump: He says Clinton wants to “give them amnesty.” He says four mothers in the crowd have children who were killed by “illegal immigrants.” “You have no borders you have no country.” “ICE endorsed me.” “I was up in New Hampshire..many of the problems caused by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama...heroin. We have to have strong borders.”

Build a wall? Build a wall? Anyone?

There it is: “I’m going to build a wall. We need a wall... we stop the drugs. .. one of my first acts would be round up all of the drug lords (SNIFF)...and we’re going to get them out.”

Donald Trump under the spotlights. Photograph: Joe Raedle/EPA
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