I moved over here to Carmichael from Alkalai Flat in April. I was always told that Fair Oaks, Citrus Heights and even Carmichael were the preferable areas of town to live, in that the rowdy hoodrat/homeless element was not as apparent as areas near and south of downtown. Its a very lovely looking area to my eyes [compared to urban parts of L.A.] But after arriving here, the street word is that this is considered the rowdy "southwest" part of Carmichael. Whatever the label, the cops are really really busy zooming up and down Marconi averaging about once an hour. Again, where I'm from thats nothin'. But for here, where the claim is safer than more populated counties, it's a little much. If you grew up around here or been around a while, what do you think?

Your area = Sac County Sheriff.

Maybe it's safer because of the strong Police presence. Are you saying you'd rather Police not patrol your neighborhood as much?

When patrol cars "zoom" down a street, I guess it's reasonable to assume their in a hurry to a crime scene.

Ron, are they zooming west down Marconi? A big hot spot for crime is in the area is a triangle a few miles east of the Carmichael zipcode bounded by Watt on the east, El Camino on the south, and Auburn Blvd on the north/west.

Otherwise, the southwest parts of the Carmichael zipcode are some of the most exclusive areas in the metro area. It would appears that some of the housing stock east of Garfield and north of Marconi has downfiltered about 1-2 socioeconomic strata since it was first developed. But it's not plummeted the way that triangle of northern Arden-Arcade has.

As for homelessness, it's hard to find an area that doesn't have some. Part of it's the economy, but the other part is the rousting and rooting out of homeless populations that centralize into one area within the city of Sacramento. In times when the city wasn't proactively breaking up encampments, the suburbs might only have a few straggling passers-through or locally-originated homeless; it was not typically a destination for homeless people on the move. Now that Sacramento is breaking up any camping activity quickly, you're starting to see populations living in areas like freeway-side landscaping (which they've been removing along areas of Hwy 99 between Fruitridge and US 50), triangles of land between freeway ramps, behind shuttered businesses, and in corners of open lots. The effect of all the rousting in the central city is that homeless are pushing outward.

It's because fair oaks connects to Watt Ave which is a High crime area.
The are older parts of the Fair Oaks area where people have lived in their fancy houses for ever but the area around Fair Oaks has gotten worse.
There is a ton of older low-income apartments up & down Watt Ave. plus, there are certain parts of the Arden area that are gangster.
Move to East sac, it's quiet & the only problem we have is the local homeless crazy guy going through our garbage.

The zipcodes of the CDP of Fair Oaks are nowhere close to Watt Ave. Watt connects to Fair Oaks Blvd, but runs north to North Highlands. it doesn't come close to the town of Fair Oaks. Arden-Arcade and Fair Oaks are completely isolated from each other by Carmichael. By and large, Fair Oaks is quite safe and very boring. Areas of Carmichael that are adjacent to Fair Oaks are typically safer areas, I'd reckon. I lived a block from the borderline between Carmichael and FO on the FO side. My Lexulous handle is still "sirlordfairoaks". Come find me if you can handle losing severely. I coulda left my doors and windows open all day everyday I was there, and nothing woulda happened.

Fair oaks rules!

Come on now its sac county not beverly hills duh.

Seriously Rick?
You can easily get from Watt to Fair oaks & Watt is dirty.

Pretty easy to spot Matt DJ. Thanks but they have those in L.A. too. Lol And No Clay. But are you saying that such request would even be logical? And Thanks also Rick D, Adam E. That sheds plenty if informative light on the subject. And Pete, I wasnt really intending to compare Sacramento to Los Angeles. People from here do more than enough of that, strangely enough since, I have yet to see anything similar about the two. Very different cities in terms of crime per capita, size and sociology.

I use to live in that area ugh and  Def hated it. There was tooooo much weird stuff going on.

Adam, I think you're confusing the town of Fair Oaks with Fair Oaks Blvd. And I've acknowledged Watt's dirtiness, but especially its northerly stretches. What part of Fair Oaks Blvd is dirty anyway? (None of it.)

Ohhhhhhh.......,my bad.
I'm tipping my hat to you right now.

Sorry my last post sounded contentious.
It's hard to sound otherwise when you're being even the slightest bit corrective.
Damn internet!

I agree with rick e. first posting last paragragh. I live by a park and it's usually the locales that camp in the suburbs. As far as sac town not being great. Move to del paso heights and right a short storie about it pete.

DeAnna: Yeah it can get a lil wild around here. But for the most part, it's liveable. I was just curious at the frequency of speeding cruisers on some days. But trust me, this is a cow pasture compared to some places I used to live.

I don't think is a good part of Marconi...

I don't think there is a good part I mean.

Jumping M; if you'd like, I can take you to Del Paso Heights at night & you can have a multicultural experience.
In fact, I know a few locations on Stockton Blvd where I went when I was a repair man for sears.
I'm sure you might change your mind.

Neither Del Paso Heights nor Stockton Boulevard are downtown. In fact, the roughest neighborhoods in the region are basically single-family suburbs.

Is "repair man" an euphemism for something? What corner did you work?

Adam lol! Give jumping m a wake up call.  He'll def get an ass whooping In DPH.  Make sure to take his ass their at midnight for realz.

@Raf - Del Paso Country Club is on Marconi.  Once you get east of Fulton it is not so bad.

William B; no I was an actual washer & dryer repair guy. You know, I come to your house & lay on your someone dirty ass tile floor and replace water pumps.

I smell a wankster in this thread.

This thread is getting pretty entertaining.  LOL

i sense a sorta competitive streak from jm's posts, so...

oh, yeah? well, i live two doors from stockton blvd!!!

Just to kinda throw this in, my girlfriend has lived in Folsom for the majority of her life and she grew up with the notion that anywhere in south Sacramento was super ghetto.  

When she decided to move in with me in Elk Grove, I would tease her all the time that we'd be grocery shopping at Trader Joes or Nugget with some of the hardest bloods and crips in south sac.  Haha.

Ron I work in the area where you live and the cops are forever speeding up and down Watt, Auburn and Madison streets. Unfortunately that particular section of North Sacramento is plagued with some unsavory crime activity... hookers on Watt Ave, Cranksters on Auburn and homicides and thefts on Madison. Its one hell of a cluster over there... we hardly ever venture out alone during work hours and everyone hurries the heck out at 5 pm to beat the sun going down so we do not get caught in the nonsense. Seriously, there is a bullet hole in our bathroom door! :(

LoL @ Lil Hoover

nice one Clay

So, diversity is the problem? Should we all be trying to move Arizona and Florida to live amongst as many retirees as possible?

Lol. Thank you Sherry. Thats a first. When I was a younger, I actually used to get compared to either Todd Bridges or Luther V.  But I've aged some and probably by some camera angles and lighting, I might resemble differently. But I dont think diversity is part of the crime problem in Sacto. But it is not obviously a boon either, as there are also many different kinds of fish in the sea. But that doesnt mean that they are all buddies. And believe it or not, Los Angeles like other large cities, has its code too as far as gang culture. The gangs deal with the each other. I have friends, relatives who are involved. The objective was never petty crimes, street muggings, etc.  Easily recognizable if you grew up there or stayed longer than a trip to Disneyland. We get into trouble trying to avoid learning what others about with what we may feel are convenient labels and slurrs. Some people, no matter where you are, dont wish to understand different people at all because they prefer to think of themselves as superior. And you can't do that if you realize that the next person matters just as you do.

I grew up on several Air Force bases, and the thing I liked most about that environment was that we kids got along great. I had so many friends of different ethnicities then. There was not much jealousy because everyone lived in neighborhoods where people were grouped by family size and approximate rank of your sponsor parent. The officers' housing was a little nicer than that of NCOs, but that amounted to detached homes for officers and semi-detached for NCOs. I don't think we kids paid it any mind. The most jealousy I could remember was when my dad wanted a bigger fishing boat, but my mom would remind him that the other guy's priorities were a bit more upside-down. Every kid went to school wearing the same clothes from the BX or the clearance rack at Mervyn's. There was a lot of fun to be had with free activities, including artsy stuff. Almost no crime besides the occasional domestic violence (a couple of murder/suicides), so we were free to bike all over the entire base. Then again, life on a military base is among the purest forms of socialism on the planet. There was full employment, and if your folks got into trouble with their credit, the government would intervene.

Well, the other thing about growing up military.....There are lots of single-earner families with a full-time stay-at-home parent. Also, our schools not only received all the state and local money per student, but also federal dollars, so per-student funding was higher at my schools than public schools in the richest districts. Maybe there was some kinda "discipline gene" passed on from your service-member parent, too??? I remember only one physical fight in four years of high school, and that involved a foreign exchange student who was discovered to be emotionally disturbed.

But, of course we military brats didn't have the entitlement attitude.
We didn't have to......We already had everything provided for us!
The best schools
Free gymnasiums
Swimming pools
Safety to roam the streets
Arts & craft centers
MWR let you borrow any recreational thing you wanted.
$1 bowling lane
$2 movies at the CineMAC

Actually, though....I do remember kids wanting more, still.
Skatepark
BMX track
Skating rink
Off-campus lunch (even though nothing was nearby)
Clothes a bit ahead of the Mervyn's clearance rack trends

Pussies

Well all of that is nothing coming from Stockton this is pretty good.(of course, not a big difference)