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Guess where OccupyOakland just deposited $20,000?

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  1. Tsada K.
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    Rhymes with "Smells Margo".

    huffingtonpost.com/micha…

    Oh, the irony.

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  2. Kathy H.
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    not surprised, but i'm not really going to bash them either.

    most people have very little understanding about how the overall system works.  and to be honest, from what i remember, wells fargo  had very little to do with the predatory loans that were given out during the real estate 'boom.'

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  3. John H.
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    Shells Largo?

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  4. John P.
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    Amused.

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  5. Tsada K.
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    Kathy, it's the same bank that they've protested in front of/inside of. It's one of the ones that's been vandalized in the protests.

    Hardly a small local bank or credit union.  Hypocrisy at its finest.

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  7. .Alan Y.
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    that sounds about right, since they have no idea what they are even protesting.

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  8. .Alan Y.
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    "wells fargo  had very little to do with the predatory loans that were given out during the real estate 'boom.' "

    ???? Do you REALLY think this is true ????

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  9. Noe O.
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    *waits for PH*

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  10. Peter B.
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    Funny. So much for Anarchists. More like hypocrites. I wonder how many actually VOTED today??!! Guarantee you it was less than 20%, and as ineffectual as voting may be, it's a hell of a lot more effective than stanking up City hall.

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  13. Tsada K.
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    I would just like to point out that the reporter who broke this story was named "Mike Hunt".

    *looks suspiciously at XZ*

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  14. .Alan Y.
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    Duh Mike, they're trying to infiltrate from WITHIN the system! It's part of their master plan to overthrow Capitalism...

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  15. Martin B.
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    Stupid Fucks. I hate that bank

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  17. P H.
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    what are you waiting for noe? *rolls eyes* are you declaring me their official spokesmen or representative because i think using riot police, rubber bullets and tear gas to enforce supposed quality of life issues that turned up being more hype and hysteria was a moronic idea?  i have no idea who or why any OO account was setup.  would i have chosen WF?  no.

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  18. Martin B.
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    Should'nt they be spending the money on weed and beer?

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  19. Tsada K.
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    Read the article, PH.  They needed the money for medical and legal services, and they needed it in a timely fashion.  WF was the only bank that could deliver expeditiously.

    You see, it's okay to bank with the 1% if 95% of the 99% votes on it in the General Assembly.  Make sense?

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  20. Noe O.
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    Wait PH, you're not the Official Occupy El Cerrito spokesman ?

    Then why were you defending it 24hrs 7days a week, I figured you were getting paid to do so ?

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  21. Kathy H.
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    it's definitely hypocrisy, tsada.  most certainly.  and i didn't know that they vandalized a wells fargo there in oakland.

    there truly is a faction (who knows what percentage) of these groups that are really just ignorant and want to stir up trouble.

    and yes, alan.  i do believe that to be true ... i did state above that i dont recall wells fargo being a part of the predatory loans that were given out.  however, my memory has failed me more than a few times.

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  22. Tsada K.
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    Definitely vandalized at least one in Downtown Oakland and also "occupied" the inside of one during a march last month.  I also heard that they overturned garbage cans inside a WF as well, but that's not confirmed so don't quote me.

    Hey assholes, you guys aren't the only ones in "desperate need" of emergency funds.  EVER HEAR OF THE CITY OF OAKLAND?  

    Not to mention, you can't be an effective martyr and cave to the oppressor you're condemning.  That's like Martyr 101. Sheesh.

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  23. Tsada K.
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    The money was a donation from Occupy Wall Street in NYC.  I wonder what OWS has to say about where their funds ended up.

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  24. P H.
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    yawn@noe.  are you always a mindless troll?  it's funny how you GTFO crowd has to make shit up and fight strawman caricatures.  

    @tsada...so this is temporary until they can establish a credit union account (according to your link).   in lieu of having no credit union account at the time and speed of access was critical, what do you suggest they do with the $20K?  trust the cash with the anarchists?  i have no interest in excusing the choice of WF but there's nothing these people can do that the GTFO crowd won't find fault in.  it's been nothing but week after week of the same complaining.

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  26. Noe O.
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    Omg Imma totes MINDLESS TROLL !!!!!!!

    8)

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  27. Tsada K.
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    PH--

    "Speed of access" was critical?  Really?  According to them it was critical so they could "get their comrades out of jail".

    I thought the whole point of going to jail for what you believed in was going to jail for what you believed in.  I guess I'm just from the old fashioned school of protesting.

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  29. Tsada K.
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    Crazy kids these days and their newfangled protesting.

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  30. Tsada K.
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    These new developments are totally cutting into my Millionaire Matchmaker viewing.  Fuck.

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  32. .Alan Y.
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    kathy, every bank was issuing "predatory loans". the whole concept of banks issuing 5/1 arm loans was "predatory". i remember applying for a home loan on a condo in 2004 at wells fargo and them trying to sell me on the idea of an interest only loan which is a "predatory" concept.

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  33. P H.
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    no tsada...you load what ever conditions on to them when ever it pleases you or when ever you think you can make it an issue.   who wanted to go to jail or stay in jail? exactly who are these ol protesters you admire?   they're willing to get arrested but no one wanted to stay jailed.   please link me the writings of any of those old fashioned protesters who insisted on staying jailed...ty.

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  36. Kathy H.
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    no, alan, not "every bank" participated.  that is false.

    and again, of the reading that i've done, wells fargo was not one of the banks that were giving out these types of loans recklessly.  if you can show me otherwise, i'd be happy to read the article or whatever it is that you share.

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  37. Jack H.
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    Where'd they get $20,000?

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  38. Kathy H.
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    this is an awesome interview with several of the occupy wall street protesters in new york:

    youtube.com/watch?v=ks4e…

    these groups need educated spokespeople immediately.

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  39. Tsada K.
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    @PH

    There's a difference between "wanting to stay in jail" and "selling the fuck out to the very cause you've been clusterfucking up Oakland in the name of".

    ty

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  40. .Alan Y.
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    Kathy:

    money.cnn.com/2011/07/20…

    "The Federal Reserve announced a record $85 million fine Wednesday against Wells Fargo for allegedly pushing borrowers with good credit into expensive mortgages and falsifying loan applications.

    The Fed accused the nation's fourth largest bank by assets of steering potential borrowers who could have qualified for prime rates into more expensive subprime loans. "

    Sorry, but your statement that all banks were not engaged in predatory lending practices is naive.

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  42. Tsada K.
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    P "Occupy T.T." H. says:
    no tsada...you load what ever conditions on to them when ever it pleases you or when ever you think you can make it an issue
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    ^also, did a monkey type that?

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  43. Tsada K.
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    Okay, I got a date with Patti Stanger.  Have fun, y'all.  

    *hops on stage coach and rides off into the sunset*

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  44. Jhoe G.
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    Stage coach.  Nice way to tie it all together

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  45. Jhoe G.
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    And FYSC

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  46. Jhoe G.
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    And a 5/1 arm is not predatory.

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  48. P H.
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    snore@tsada.  what do you need explaining?  oh wait...you're digging deep in your ass again.  never mind...yawn.

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  49. Tsada K.
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    ^Says the cunt who has actual opinions about American Idol

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  50. Tsada K.
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    @ Mike^

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  51. .Alan Y.
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    And a 5/1 arm is not predatory.

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    The way they were marketing it was. When you apply for a 15 or 30 year fixed and they try to talk you into a 5/1 because it benefits their profit margins, it qualifies as a predatory lending practice.

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  53. Tsada K.
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    And yes, PH you're right.  It makes perfect sense to go to jail protesting big banks and then, rather than remain in jail a little bit longer, to take money donated by other people protesting big banks and have your friends who are also protesting big banks deposit it in a big bank to get your pious ass out of the Glenn Dyer jail more quickly.  

    Pulled that right out of my ass I did.

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  54. Jhoe G.
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    Um no one can force you to choose an arm You still have the choice to choose a fixed loan

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  55. P H.
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    uh huh tsada...because their intent was to go to jail  and stay there as long as possible?  says you....of course. you need to place that burden onto them because you think it's an issue.  another snore.

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  56. P H.
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    joe...people took arms because they couldn't afford the fixed and they were told by the sales people that they could always refi again before the adjustments because you know  "real estate never goes down".

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  57. Edward A.
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    20,000 That's it? I think there is more than that. I guess it takes a little time to launder Tax dollars.

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  58. .Alan Y.
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    Joe "Father MC" G. says:

    Um no one can force you to choose an arm You still have the choice to choose a fixed loan

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    so you supported the bank's sales tactics during the bubble? or are you blaming people who were foreclosed upon for their own folly?

    i know plenty of people who bought into the sales pitch that they could just take the 5/1 and refi later, and bought at the height of the market between 2003-2007, only to crap out in 2008. as for myself, i didn't buy into the hype and waited until the market fell out to buy. but i'm a skeptic and not prone to believe the pitch of salesmen.

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  59. Tsada K.
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    Wow.  You're really up on the history of resistance and protest.  Clearly you are quite learned.

    This is a stimulating discussion, PH, but I have Bravolebrities to watch.

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  60. Kathy H.
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    alan, wells fargo acquired wachovia.  a couple of years earlier, wachovia acquired a relatively unknown bank by the name of world savings bank.  the largest percentage of 'predatory' loans that wells fargo currently holds are due to their acquisition of wachovia.

    and i'm sure you've done your own research as to how many of the acquisitions went down during the financial crisis.

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  61. P H.
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    tsada, you have some perverted idea of the intent of protesting.  except for maybe the smallest of minority fringe radicals, no one wants to get arrested...they accept getting arrested but no one wants to be arrested.  protesters would much rather protest w/o getting jailed. so please link me the writings (oh learned one) where the expressed intent is to be arrested and jailed....ty.

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  62. Jhoe G.
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    If you're going to buy a house you should try to educate yourself on what you're getting into. It's a slightly larger thing than a car.  There's a lot of blame to go around and brokers were even worse. Trust me I worked for a few.

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  63. Jhoe G.
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    World savings at one time had the only Neg Am loans on the market. If you don't know what a neg am is it's basically a loan that gives you 3 payment options and one of those options will actually help Increase your balance

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  65. P H.
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    amanda...i'm so not an anarchist.

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  66. Tsada K.
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    Nah, how bout you link me  any historically respected activist/protest organization who paid off the entity they were protesting so they could spare themselves a few extra days of baloney sandwiches with the crackheads in county.

    ty

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  67. .Alan Y.
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    kathy, clearly you did not read the article i posted.

    nowhere is it indicated that the $85M fine was for predatory loan practices conducted by banks acquired by wells fargo.

    in fact, it specifically cited unethical loan practices by wells fargo employees, "The Fed blamed compensation and sales quota policies at Wells Fargo Financial for encouraging employees to falsify documents. It also faulted the bank for having inadequate controls in place to manage risks. "

    again, its naive to believe that unethical loan practices are isolated to just a few now-insolvent and acquired banks. if that were the case, the housing bubble would never have crashed as badly as it did. it was an industry wide problem.

    sorry to tsada, didn't mean to hijack with this side thread.

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  68. Tsada K.
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    *paid not *paid off

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  69. P H.
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    so tsada, you really need links to every protester that's ever been bailed out of jail or paid a fine?  LOL!   i guess we can officially label your gripe as total BS.

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  70. Tsada K.
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    BTW it's okay if you still support OO, PH.  Just be willing to admit they're hypocrites and explain why we should support them when they are supporting what you supposedly condemn.

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  71. Tsada K.
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    bail is something else.  fines are something else.

    you're not very smart, are you?

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  72. Tsada K.
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    Do you think PETA thinks it's okay to wear fur to their anti-fur protests, just provided it's really chilly out?

    Same thing.

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  73. Kathy H.
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    i read it.  it's an interesting article...

    and it does point out that this particular suit was related to specific loans provided by wells fargo.  

    but again, my point is that wells fargo had very little to do with the millions of predatory loans that were provided - which eventually led to the financial crisis during 2008.

    and true - this is a hijack.

    (also, fyi, i've been with a credit union for over 20 years)

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  74. P H.
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    like i said tsada,  i'm not defending them putting money into wf.  i'm just not making up meaningless gripes or creating strawmen to battle.  if you feel better calling them hypocrites because they needed time to set up whatever credit union account ... so be it.  it doesn't effect me one bit.... and if protesters (re:not vandals) are freed a day early then good.  you just knock yourself out calling them (and me) all the names you want.  your hyperbole and hysteria over the last few weeks speaks volumes to me and your opinion of me really doesn't matter all that much.  i've explained time and again the point of the nationwide occupy movement.  i have no need to try to explain it to you any further.  your opinion seems to be etched in stone already.

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  76. Al D.
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    how could you expect to NOT get ripped off by Wells Fargo?  Their logo features a guy with a SHOTGUN on a wagon!

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  78. Georgio N.
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    One hour ago Kathy H. says:

    i read it.  it's an interesting article...

    and it does point out that this particular suit was related to specific loans provided by wells fargo.  

    but again, my point is that wells fargo had very little to do with the millions of predatory loans that were provided - which eventually led to the financial crisis during 2008.

    and true - this is a hijack.

    (also, fyi, i've been with a credit union for over 20 years)
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    Kathy reading this thread is like watching your one wheeled circus routine.... Thanks for the unintended entertainment..

    Wells Fargo has a long history of unethical business practices. They sold sub prime loans in bulk all over the country. Here is a little snippet from 2009 on their Subprime predatory loan practices on Blacks in Baltimore in the NYT...  Enjoy.

    "Wells Fargo, Ms. Jacobson said in an interview, saw the black community as fertile ground for subprime mortgages, as working-class blacks were hungry to be a part of the nation's home-owning mania. Loan officers, she said, pushed customers who could have qualified for prime loans into subprime mortgages. Another loan officer stated in an affidavit filed last week that employees had referred to blacks as "mud people" and to subprime lending as "ghetto loans...."

    nytimes.com/2009/06/07/u…

    " Mud people..."

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  79. Georgio N.
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    "The New York Times, in a recent analysis of mortgage lending in New York City, found that black households making more than $68,000 a year were nearly five times as likely to hold high-interest subprime mortgages as whites of similar or even lower incomes. (The disparity was greater for Wells Fargo borrowers, as 2 percent of whites in that income group hold subprime loans and 16.1 percent of blacks.)..."

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  81. Georgio N.
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    Wells Fargo is filled with bankers of the lowest common denominator.   Be forewarned.

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  86. Edward A.
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    Good morning Angel.

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  88. Kathy H.
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    leave it to geoffrey to come in and add all the drama.

    look, the biggest banks and financial institutions involved with predatory loans were:

    goldman sachs (obama sure likes these guys.  has taken more money from goldman than any previous president in history)
    morgan stanley
    lehman brothers
    merrill lynch
    bear sterns

    ok?  i'm just saying they weren't at the top of the food chain when it came to predatory lending.

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  91. Georgio N.
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    Kathy, your list consists of investment banks that repackaged these subprime loans into a worthless investment products.

    But those banks weren't pushing sub prime loans.  Morgan Stanley wasn't pushing sub prime loans to consumers...

    But....  Wells Fargo was a bank that pushed sub prime loans on consumers.  
    Country Wide was pushing sub prime loans...et cetera..  

    Are you a low level wonk at Wells Fargo or something? Why are you defending the indefensible.  Forget it and go take a walk on this brisk fall morning...

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  92. Melissa B.
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    *poops on sidewalk*

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  93. Kathy H.
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    i'm not defending them and i dont work for wells fargo.

    and it was the investment banks which allowed the lenders to even offer these loans .  it was the investment banks who bought these loans, repackaged them and sold them to investors.

    anyway - moving on... dead horse here.

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  95. Georgio N.
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    The investment banks did not "allow" other loaning institutions to offer these loans...  

    What kind of crackers are you eating over there...  You want some Ritz crackers with that cheese??

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  96. Melissa N.
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    How long does it take to set up an account at a credit union?  I'm confused.  That's just not right.

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  97. Kathy H.
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    blah blah blah - says geoffrey.

    it was the investment banks who had the leverage capacity .. they bought the shit loans for this reason.

    time for coffee and a break from geoffrey's delusion.

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  98. Georgio N.
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    Ohhh,  Wells Fargo had to bow down to Bear Sterns "leverage capacity.."

    Question:  Do you like cheese wiz?

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    Geoffrey "summer dreams..." N. says:

    Wow, PTTH is crazy.  Depositing money with Wells Fargo is crazy.  The end.
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    did you read the whole thread geoff...if you page up you'd see i don't support or defend them depositing money at WF.  it's a PR fuck up on OO's part..  but is it such a huge BFD that a temporary account was used to free protesters from jail until they could establish a more permanent account with a local bank or credit union...no.  my point has been that those making a big deal are GTFO haters already and will look for any reason to complain.

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    angel...i already did say it was a PR fuck up.  but is it worse to let protesters stay locked up?

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    I though overrunning local jails with protestors was in it's self a form of protesting the local govt ?

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    where did i say it takes 2 weeks to open an account?  so please don't put words into my mouth.  my understanding is they(OO) had $20K coming from them (from OWS w/ cetain restrictions on the money) and they had to park it somewhere fast.  i have no idea when this occurred or what time of day it happened...do you?

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    Hahaha.  PH, you are the same person who diminished concerns of Oakland residents, citing they are merely being "inconvenienced" by the huge costs to the city and its businesses.  That "inconvenince" was worth the larger good, you state.

    Being locked up at Glenn Dyer for a few days is not a big deal.  Trust me.  I know a few people who have spent time there.  If Occupy Oakland and those jailed protesters really cared about the cause, they would have taken one for the team.  You know, the way they expect us, the residents of Oakland to do?

    The difference is, sitting in Glenn Dyer ain't costing those motherfuckers thousands of dollars a day, like OO is to the city of Oakland.

    Fucking self-entitled misguided egomaniacs.

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    yawn@tsada.  i love how you can say getting locked up in jail is no BFD.  wow.  next dumb post.

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    31 minutes ago P "Occupy T.T." H. says:

    Geoffrey "summer dreams..." N. says:

    Wow, PTTH is crazy.  Depositing money with Wells Fargo is crazy.  The end.

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    my point has been that those making a big deal are GTFO haters already and will look for any reason to complain.

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    Look for any reason to complain??  

    I was going to cut you some slack.  But forget it..  I guess you refuse to take your medicine.

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    P "Occupy T.T." H. says:
    yawn@tsada.  i love how you can say getting locked up in jail is no BFD.  wow.  next dumb post.
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    I agree, It's a BFDl if you're from walnut creek.

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    yay...the whole GTFO hater team is here.  snore.

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    P "Occupy T.T." H. says:
    yay...the whole GTFO hater team is here.  snore.
    ___

    Yet you're still here, are you paid per post ?

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    Ya, it's no big fucking deal PH.   Welcome to what happens when OPD tells you to GTFO and you decide to push the envelope. Eat your baloney sammich and STFU till you get your day in court.    BTW, you all were sleeping on the street in "protest" two days ago.  I think you'll get over a few days in the can.

    A big fucking deal is siphoning city funds from the children of an impoverished city in the name of a cause you don't even really support youself when push-comes-to-shove.

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    *yourself

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  22. P H.
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    angel...i'm sure their lawyer is more up on the exact issues rather than some hypothetical time line that you pulled from thin air.  so instead of calling me ignorant why don't you wait for all the info to come out before claiming you know everything.  i love how you think the protesters have leverage over their lawyer to force him to change his bank immediately...smh...how much are they paying their lawyer that they can impose any demands?

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    This is about OO not OWS sean.

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    People get locked up every day in Oakland for a hell of a lot less and without repeated written and verbal warning.  Maybe you can organize a group of White folks from El Cerrito to come and protest that. I fail to see outcry from scores of non-residents when that occurs.

    It's no wonder these out-of-town dumbasses never fail to be the ones who get locked up during protests.  It sucks when you come somewhere like Oakland and your White privilege fails you.

    Folks in Oakland are giving these whiners the biggest eye roll ever.

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    Noe O. says:

    P "Occupy T.T." H. says:
    yay...the whole GTFO hater team is here.  snore.
    ___

    Yet you're still here, are you paid per post ?
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    it's funny because you called me out in this thread...and now you complain that i defend myself.  you're such a mindless troll.

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    *waits for PH* is more of a prediction than a call out..

    Also isn't this sean that Sammy guy ?

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    Angel "Shawty" B. says:

    PH, I am not speaking of a hypothetical timeline. I am taking this info straight from their own website and reading facts.

    Also lawyers don't  know everything. Also, he is hired and working for OO, so there is leverage there.

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    link to the info straight from their site? other than the minutes of their meeting where they repeat the claim that it would take time to move the money to a credit union.   and HOW MUCH is the lawyer getting paid.  is it pro bono?  and it's more likely the lawyers drops OO as a client if OO makes any demands on their lawyer.   no client is ever in a position to demand their lawyer change their bank.
    angel...i have no problem conversing or reasoning with others who aren't so defensive and obstinate....you get what you give.

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    Noe O. says:

    *waits for PH* is more of a prediction than a call out..
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    before last night i was mostly ignoring the GTFO haters and the same repetitive complaining  and self-congratulatory back-slapping.  i hadn't participated in the OO threads for about a week...it wasn't until last night when you called me out that i jumped back in.  for some reason you need to anoint me as their representative.

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    The smelly unsanitary conditions must be f'ing with their thinking.

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  38. Chrysanthemum A.
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    Occupy Oxnard

    Occupy Solvang

    Occupy Manteca

    However, I have heard about Occupy Fresno on kpfa.org and I wonder WHY?????

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  40. P H.
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    ok ali...but say you boycott fast food and are suffering a low blood sugar attack but the only place for 100s miles is taco bell...do you bite the bullet or do you suffer the hypoglycemia?  life isn't so easy and simply that you can be ideologically pure 100% of the time.

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  46. Chum L.
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    @PH You have it wrong... they DON'T have the monies yet. So basically, using your analogy, this diabetic hasn't had the attack yet, but just in case, is going to Taco Bell even while exploring the neighborhood for other possibilities.

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    Let's say monkeys flew out of my butt...

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  52. Tsada K.
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    I find it to be very unclear as to what has actually be done and when.  The article title leads one to believe the account has been opened and the funds deposited.  So did the comments I read last night on FB.  Now on FB everyone's backpedaling and saying they've not even gotten the funds.

    I smell a rat.

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  53. Chum L.
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    figuratively or literally? Because you will most likely find both.

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  54. Tsada K.
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    lollerz chummerz.

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  55. P H.
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    *rolls eyes team gtfo*....i was replying to ali's scenario.

    @angel... i'm waiting for the link to all the info you claimed was on their site.  you do know that OO isn't even a legal entity able to accept donations directly.  as someone who works at a bank you should understand the legal and tax implications and requirements for setting up a non-profit and banking accounts for them.  are you claiming that anyone from OO can set up a legal defense account under the OO name w/o a charter in under a day?   currently all their  donations are going to the Long Haul anarchists.  so please stop pretending you have all the facts or that i'm the one being unreasonable.

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    Ahhhhh...I miss my 'worlds smartest people' discussions.

    What's crackin people?

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    Don't think I can. I got some friends in from out of town so I have to save my dad pass.

    Got to swing for the fences you know?

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  62. Mary P.
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    Um, ain't there a credit union right in the middle of Frank Ogawa Plaza?  Yeah, its called Oakland Municipal Credit Union/Western Credit Union. It's serious at ground zero Occupy Oakland.  It's a real credit union and errthang. Has an ATM even.

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  63. P H.
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    angel...i read what you posted already.   you fail to understand that the OO was trying to get it's people out of jail asap.  so your solution doesn't work for them.

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  64. G L.
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    are any of OO's people the vandals?

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  65. Tsada K.
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    WHO GIVES A SHIT IF THEY STAY LOCKED UP A FEW MORE DAYS? They were participating in civil disobedience in the name of a cause.  Follow through, dude.

    How long did Nelson Mandela spend in jail for standing up for what he believed in?

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    Totally, Angel.

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    They went with the closes ATM?

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  72. P H.
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    @angel...go spend a night or 2 in jail and then get back to us.  obviously those in jail and the OO  leadership aren't as "hardcore" as you or those on Team GTFO (i understand this isn't you angel).  and you seem to have this illusion that OO has leverage over their lawyers.  again...how much are they paying the lawyers or is it pro bono work?  as i've stated ad nauseum...i don't support their move to use WF but i'm not making it  into a BFD that the haters need it be since life isn't so perfect and simple where you can be 100% pure and ideological all the time.

    @amanda...so you want the more tax payer money spent on the protesters by keeping them in jail...ok?????

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  74. G L.
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    And Jimmy Carter passed a law that made making home made beer no longer illegal......by that alone he is my hero

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  77. Chum L.
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    I am a hardcore vegetarian except for on weekends.

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  81. G L.
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    maybe they could just give the $20,000 to the CIty of O to help pay for the shit they are causing and avoid all this embarassment of having a Wells account.

    "City officials confirmed Nov. 3 that costs had exceeded one million dollars by Oct. 28, the day East Bay News Service published that figure. Police overtime for the Oct. 25 raid on the camp in Ogawa Plaza, and three ensuing days of many marches and protests, alone topped $700,000.

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  83. Chrysanthemum A.
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    Crazy-cray. I bank at Wells Fargo, but then again I'm not like the Occupy Santa Rosa protesters who went to Wells Fargo, raised a ruckus, and got arrested.

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  85. Chrysanthemum A.
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    Occupy Manteca!!!!

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    It would be great if Colin Firth would occupy me all night long. I have a forested plantation. He's got nice chest hair.

    Wait, we're not on the Brazilian waxing thread....

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  90. Tsada K.
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    P "Occupy T.T." H. says:
    @angel...go spend a night or 2 in jail and then get back to us.  obviously those in jail and the OO  leadership aren't as "hardcore" as you or those on Team GTFO
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    Well, if people aren't "hardcore" enough to hang out in jail for a few days, perhaps they shouldn't put themselves in a position for which they have been warned multiple times they will be arrested.  Not everyone is cut out to be a revolutionary.  

    Those aren't police sirens you hear.  That's the wahhhhmbulance.

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  91. Jhoe G.
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    way too many Seans up in here..up in here.

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  95. G L.
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    Well some one at Wells' PR department has a good sense of humor

    "Wells Fargo welcomes the 100 percent of Americans to allow us to help them meet their financial needs,"

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  96. Tsada K.
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    Bwahaha!  Is that a real quotation, GL?  Do you have a link?

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  98. V J.
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    Creating a homeless encampment is hardly the way to put more money in your pockets. I understand the cause but camping out and vandalism is not the solution. How about forming another political party or advocating for one that you believe will help us 99%'ers? ijs

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  99. G L.
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    It is a real quote...go about a quarter of the way down on this link.....classic
    bostonherald.com/busines…

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  100. Tsada K.
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    Thanks, GL.  I'm totally gonna use that...

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