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  1. Paul M.
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    Man-made global warming -- have we been had?

    "THE scientific consensus that mankind has caused climate change was rocked yesterday as a leading academic called it a "load of hot air underpinned by fraud".  dailyexpress.co.uk/posts…

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  2. D. T.
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    yes, worldwide scientific consensus can be completely derailed by a single dissenting opinion.

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  3. Manny F.
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    Don't be an idiot

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  4. Paul M.
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    He's not the only one though . . . far from it. And there is all this about the hacked emails.  People resigning over it and all -- looks pretty bad.

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  5. Your Lord G.
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    tinyurl.com/yac684b

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  6. Matt R.
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    Plimer's been plugging this stuff for years. But all the work unrelated to the hacked emails still stands. Sure, one good press release sounds important if you think Al Gore's movie is the extent of the work, but most of the people working in the field really wouldn't give a shit.

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  7. Klik W.
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    not really but cap and trade is pretty stupid

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  8. Umesh T.

    Of course it's a hoax. The email proved it for the world to see.
    There is no such thing like man-made green house effect. The planet is big enough for us all to commit all out shit and still recover.

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  9. Kai S.
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    The Short Answer: No.

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  10. Patrick B.
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    It's amazing how easily public opinion can be swayed no matter how obvious something might be.

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  11. Deeeeeee G.
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    so we're still all going to die though right? Because I stopped paying my taxes already

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  12. Umesh T.

    Diana, you're crazy ! LOL !!!

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  13. Deeeeeee G.
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    Umesh, that was a joke, non lol

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  14. Tsada K.
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    Can we just let this run it's course, please?  A flood of snark followed by some intelligent posts by Matt R. and Amy R. and other science-y types, followed silliness by Craig Iforgethislastinitial, all culminating in the splendiferous 9 Point Energy Plan as composed by the tall chap himself, Mark A.

    As you were.

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  16. Tsada K.
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    *its

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  18. Patrick B.
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    but Fra'Tan...an e-mail proves it's all a hoax. We can all go back to a life of filled with ignorant bliss. I'm going to go pray to the invisible super god being that has never been heard or seen and there is not one shred of proof anywhere of it's existence now.

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  19. Poe T.
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    Paul, if it turns out to be a hoax then I'm driving my truck to your house and just idling my truck in your driveway till I run out of  gas. Cause we can do that when we prove it's a hoax, right?

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  20. Bill R.
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    It doesn't surprise me at all that people who think government can plan the economy think government can plan the climate.

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  22. Hank B.
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    Chemtrails are responsible for global warming. I thought that was common knowledge.... if anyone wants i'm selling Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanies at a ridiculously low price of $99.99

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  25. Jhoe G.
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    Bill R. says:

    It doesn't surprise me at all that people who think government can plan the economy think government can plan the climate.
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    Yes the government is "planning" the climate right now! They're turning up the heat in Florida!

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  26. Bill R.
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    So politicians will give you affordable health care and fewer hurricanes?
    Fascinating.

    Time for your nap now.

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  27. Jhoe G.
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    Bill R. says:

    So politicians will give you affordable health care and fewer hurricanes?
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    What in the hell are you even talking about?

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  29. Bill R.
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    Maybe "control" isn't a good word.

    So your leaders will "adjust" the climate then?
    I see.

    Let me go get my checkbook.

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  30. Jhoe G.
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    Oh wow..Bill thinks the government controls the weather! Hilarious. Get your tinfoil hats from Bill!

    Bill when you going to write a review?

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  32. Bill R.
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    Don't mind me Joe. I'm just entertaining myself by exploring the outer boundaries of your psychosis.

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  33. Bill R.
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    I thought Copenhagen was about C02, not bombs.

    Silly me.

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  35. Bill R.
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    Of course the climate changes.
    As for global warming being caused by humans, nobody has shown that.

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  36. Don N.
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    While we might be having an effect -- volcanoes, wildfires (that have gotten 'wilder' because we try to control them), and other normal bodily functions from good 'ole mother earth add up as well.  There have been countless warming and cooling cycles (many caused by those same forces listed above) in our earth's history.  We're but snot on a tissue in a stitch in time -- 10,000 years of human habitation vs. 4.5 billion years of earth's existence.  We'll not likely see another ice age in our lifetimes, but it WILL occur.  And will be followed by a warming period -- and so on, and so on, and so on...

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    E'ville "Double" D. says:

    yes, worldwide scientific consensus can be completely derailed by a single dissenting opinion.
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    I could not put this any better.

    Paul, eat a bag of globally warmed dicks!

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  38. Jhoe G.
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    Oh bill I hope you write a review by the time the polar ice caps melt

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  39. G H.
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    First, generally, "global warming" is not a Hoax.  
    It is a theory that has caused unnecessary hysteria.   If you read between the lines, what you really have now is many scientists moving toward man-made "Climate Change".  That way, if the warming trend turns and the earth gets cooler they have covered all their bases.  

    Second, the planet is not doomed.  Maybe humans are, but the planet will survive no matter what we do.

    Third, for those who say, so what -- we should embrace "global warming" because all ecology is good, you are not doing your homework.   If people like Al Gore had their way at best you deflect the negative impact onto something else.   Want electric cars?  How do you make batteries?  From the Elements and minerals.  Where do minerals come from?  The earth.  Where in the earth?  You DIG.   (Places like The Congo where they use child labor.)    Where do you dispose of used batteries?  What is the cost to dispose of them?  And so on!

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  40. Geoff C.
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    The problem with global warming is everyone in Chicago, Buffalo, the whole midwest and New England are like 'BRING IT ON!'   Give me some cloroflorocarbons baby!

    The real problem is alot of global warming advocates tried to state that the vast majority of the scientific community was fully in agreement that it was a real problem and manmade (well documented there is still tons of debate in the scientific community even by the non-biased, unsubsidized researches).  When you try and pull a fast one like that on people in this day in age when info is readily available online, you've lost the people who were on the fence as credibility is shot.

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  41. Paul M.
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    What we really care about is Mick Jagger's warming and cooling.  

    I'm the burning bush, I'm the burning fire
    I'm the bleeding volcano
    I'm so hot for her, I'm so hot for her
    I'm so hot for her and she's so cold

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  42. M Z.
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    We're gonna spend $150 Trillion dollars ... on the world's biggest scam... ever? *shakes head*

    I loved one of the *deleted* emails where the guy was fuming about the inexplicable global warming ... 500 years ago.

    Classic, classic, classic.

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  43. M Z.
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    Geoff +1
    GH +1

    I read somewhere if the world built 1,000 nuclear plants, we could shave .10 of a degree off of the so-called Global Warming. Well, if Obama is all giddy for Iran having nukular plants, no reason we can't have another 100-200. (No CO2.)

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  44. Tsada K.
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    Don't forget the 300 coal mines.

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  45. M Z.
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    Coal: horrible.

    Clean coal: a fantasy?

    Natural Gas: part of the future.

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  46. M Z.
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    This has s ent shock waves through academia.

    But Al Gore got rich, eh?

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  47. Tsada K.
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    Four out of nine points.  Nearly end of thread.

    Can I call it?

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  48. Tsada K.
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    Or can I call it?

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  51. Patrick B.
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    Mark A. is here to educate us all on global warming. Everyone just listen up. He's also going to tell us why the world is going to end December 21, 2012.

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  52. M Z.
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    wc: why bother these folks with historical facts? Where they also going nuts for the Y2K hysteria?

    The Chron even babbled on recently for the need for "green energy"... yet no one seems to be able to do basic math. So if we double wind and solar power... we'll then go from them being 2% of our energy mix!!?? Oh goody!!

    At the same time, they'll forget to mention that the Germans pay 300% of what we pay for electricity; while also paying $8 a gallon for gas.

    Is that the "change" you folks desire?

    Hence why this Global Warming "science" is more religion, than science.

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  53. M Z.
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    Correction: "...we'll then go from them being 1% - to 2% - of our energy mix!!?? Oh goody!!"

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  56. Bill M.
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    Hey Mark,

    Weather patterns are changing and it's a fact dude. To acknowledge it does not mean that people are freaking out. Maybe, they want to try to rectify it?

    Why would you refute a group of people who are actually trying to do some good for the world. Or is it easier to be antagonistic toward ANYTHING 'left'? If you are not into it, fine. To get your panties in a bunch for those who give a shit, weird.

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  58. Paul L.
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    Climate warming or climate cooling?

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  61. M Z.
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    Bill, I have a few questions for you... if you're up to it.

    1) Are you aware that the River Thames (which runs through London) used to freeze over in the winter, 300, 400, 500 years ago? So global warming ended that. Right?

    2) Why did it warm so much, with zero cars about?

    3) Isn't it true that the weather is constantly changing ... and no one can say, definitively, why it happens?

    Why "refute it" ... when they are "trying to do some good"? Let me flip the questions to you...

    4) How will a 300% increase in electrical costs affect little old ladies? Poor folks?

    5) How will $8 a gallon gas affect the working poor? What damage will it do to the U.S. economy?

    Isn't there a saying about the damage that can be caused by people who "try to do good"... "good intentions"...???

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  63. Bill M.
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    Denise,
    A news website that openly says it combats 'liberal' biased news. Really? That in itself makes it biased. That is enough agenda to not be valid. Let's switch it up a bit.

    "Welcome to NPR, a project of the Media Research Center (MRC), the leader in documenting, exposing and neutralizing conservative media bias."

    It would be just as invalid.

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  64. M Z.
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    Sarah Palin +1

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  65. M Z.
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    Bill, are you aware that many countries are extremely jealous of the United States economic and political position as the defacto world leader?

    Are you also aware that some see the Draconian taxes and regulations of the so-called "Global Warming" as a way to curtail the States?

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  69. M Z.
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    And who blew Al Gore's movie out of the water in the UK ... oh yeah, a truck driver was able to get 7 major corrections to his fantasy film.

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  71. Jhoe G.
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    ????

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  73. goldberg d.
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    all douche bags should die then we wouldn't have so much goddamn hot air around, plus there would be more food and gasoline would be cheaper.  see my logic proves that not only are douche bags useless they cause global warming....burn them and they become fossil fuel.  give me a nobel peace prize

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  78. goldberg d.
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    too many food critics/political commentators.. we need more sex, drugs and hip hop

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  81. Bill M.
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    Mark "don't Cry for me Arrrrr-gentina" A. says:

    Bill, I have a few questions for you... if you're up to it.
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    not really...wasting my time is low on my list. But since you feel like being patronizing, here we go.

    I can cut and paste too Mark.

    1. I'll give you the connection with the Thames River (thanks for clarifying that it was in London) Dr. Dennis Wheeler, who did the research into old Naval records that you are referring to still contests that global warming still exists.

    "Wheeler makes clear he has no doubts about modern human-induced climate change. He said: "Global warming is a reality, but what our data shows is that climate science is complex and that it is wrong to take particular events and link them to CO2 emissions. These records will give us a much clearer picture of what is really happening."

    2. He contested that while Co levels were not the cause in 1850, there is still reason to do research now. If it were up to folks like you, scientific research would be eradicated and explanations of our environmental condition would be left up the church. I think it's important enough to question.

    3. Yep, weather is constantly changing. Of course it is. But with your logic, any attempt to research why is some lefty plot. Basically, it's just information that you do not want to hear so you refute it. You can throw the Thames at me all you want but it's ONE body of water. OK, so maybe it's BS. Fine. Are you really THAT against better air quality? Now that is something that affects you and I'm sure you can say that is something you want. But, I'm sure you will argue that and say you love smog and that it's not unhealthy for you.

    4. How will electrical costs go up 300% for old ladies? BTW, Old ladies? The GOP loves to throw around 'old ladies' and 'mothers' when they want to it look like they give a shit...yeah, lefties hate old mothers. gethefukoutahere.

    Anyway, I think you copied and pasted that old lady remark from here.
    climateprogress.org/2009…

    They also say that solar panels emits heat back into the atmosphere. What?

    5. Gas is not 8 bucks a gallon. So what are you even talking about? With you logic alone, shouldn't we try to make cars that do not rely on fossil fuels?

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  86. Bill M.
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    Denise J. says:
    Bill, whenever some makes a valid point that some "progressives don't like" the progressives call the news source conservative....welcome to the wonderful world of Yelp
    With Hot Paul :P:P:P:):), bringing up the global temperature!!!!!!!!!!
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    Crazy lady,
    I don't read not have ever quoted ANY of those sites or papers so what is your point?

    My argument with you is that you posted a site that advertises that instead of actually finding news out there, it will just refute liberal topics. Not only does that sound like a waste of energy, it sounds paranoid.

    and Paul, I would lock your door if I were you.

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  88. Jhoe G.
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    Your.  You're.

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  90. Jhoe G.
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    Pcpcpcpcpcpc

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  91. Bill M.
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    Denise J. says:
    Hey Bill, it's many Democrats (not all) who want to pass Obamacare that will raid Medicare (take away money from the old people) Put your money where your mouth is...GTFOH
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    Wait...medicare? That doesn't sound like emissions or CO2 levels at all.

    oh...I see. You like to bring up topics that were not even on the table. I said this in the past about someone else but I think you have John McNamara syndrome. "Answer the question you wanted asked of you".  

    Do me a favor, let Mark answer the question as we have a little dialog going and you don't have a clue ok? Why don't you go find more Palin quotes to copy and paste.

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  92. Bill M.
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    Bobby "I'm A Cracker" H. says:
    Hey, there's a lot of misinformation out there. Scientists disagree on facts and outcomes.  If the climate has always been changing can you blame all changes on man?
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    totally Bobby.

    I get that man. But research must be done nonetheless. Research to see what the deal is, not just to refute another's scientific research to suit a lobbyist agenda.

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  93. Bill M.
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    Joe....
    :(

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  94. Matt R.
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    Hey check this out... the Yelp Mythbusters can address the data directly!  The source code's in there, too, so perhaps we can set up a heterogenous PVM network to squeeze out some new, shocking results!  I have an 8-core Nehelem I can lend out on weekends.

    realclimate.org/index.ph…

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  96. Bill M.
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    +1 Fran

    Paul, thank you for the thread and giving another side of the story.
    I'm done.

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  100. Poe T.
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    I've had 199 letters to the editor published in various newspapers.

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  101. Jhoe G.
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    Interesting Poe..I've had 198...69 of which appeared in Butt Broads Weekly.

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    Laura still whining.

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    So I was just reading this morning that a great many anthropologists believe that 12 percent (or more) of the amazon was directly created by Humans:

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    Never trust a Nobel Laureate. Bunch of elitists. They're all in on it. They're as bad as the evolutionists and the round-Earthers.

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    Ever notice how the moon gets bigger and smaller? Sometimes, you can't even see it. THEY CAN'T EVEN GET THE SPECIAL EFFECT RIGHT!!!

    Have you ever been there? And yet, these "scientists" want us to take it on faith. They're all riding the gravy train.

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    Hilarious!
    Michael "Hockey Stick" Mann feels the need to write a Washington Post Op Ed attacking Sarah Palin!

    washingtonpost.com/wp-dy…

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    uh huh, Denise speaks the truth sire

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    David you are just a shaggard villain, I challenge you to a sword fight

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    yes that is much better

    kind of like medieval mud wrestling

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    this bitch knight kicks ass
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    Yesterday was overcast and at times drippy. Today is sunny and breezy. Climate change is totally real.

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    Denise J. says:

    Better yet, I'll have a Blackthorn hard cider and help finish whatever side is losing...
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    Hi Denise, how are you this evening?
    Better yet, I think I'll have a Snakebite. Its nice having an ice cold snakebite to watch the Blitzkrieg.

    O no!    Luftwaffe warning sirens  -------------  duck for cover

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    denise they are just beside themselves that you make sense.

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    Denise, Thanks for the link. Here I will click it.

    Okay so it says Political Correctness is a form of Fascism.
    So you are saying that my comment was "PC" and thus I am a fascist.  

    Wonderful stuff Denise.

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  29. M Z.
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    Funny how the Left had to change the name of their sales mission from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change".

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    Ya hilarious.

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  34. Georgio N.
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    Release The Hounds

    Sound the Air Horns.........

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    Bombs overhead

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    Csn someone Translate that warning?

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  42. Candice T.
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    Global warming is a HOAX?!
    I just bought two new bathing suits!!!
    Should I cancel my December 12, 2012 EoTW Pool Party...? I was kinda-sorta banking on a hot day.

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    You big ole flirt danice

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    I think duh nice is more creative than joke

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    I read climax change....:-X

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    Mark "don't Cry for me Arrrrr-gentina" A. says:
    Funny how the Left had to change the name of their sales mission from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change".
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    Yeah, THAT was the factor that got me onboard.
    Those lefties sure know how how to reel me in.

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    ginger m. says:
    denise they are just beside themselves that you make sense.
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    the jokes never stop

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    G sport. Xxx games

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  57. Ben H.
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    i blame those mammoths, saber tooth tigers and cave men. we were in an ice age and thanks do them and their shennanigans, the glaciers in north america all melted away... i hope we will learn a lesson from that...its probably from the invention of fire or something ridiculous like that

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    Luftwaffe flying over Belgium..........Bombs Away

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  62. Georgio N.
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    Denise, I was listening to KPFA and they an interesting show on this morning on climate change.

    They were discussing that guy Dr. Hanson from NASA.  It might still be on KPFA 94.1  

    Have you heard of it.?

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    David P. says:

    Denise J. says:

    Bill M.
    I must thank you.  I would've never found those if it hadn't been for you...it's been fun! Later...
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    Aha Bill M. - so we have you to blame for this particular link bombing run..............
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    I have no idea what the fuck she's talking about.

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  65. Craig M.
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    The sky is not falling!!

    timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne…

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  66. Steven R.
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    Climate is constantly changing.  Been doing it for millions of years and will continue to do so long after we're gone.  Cycles.  Weather goes in cycles.  Ice core samples prove when the earth gets too warm, it cools itself down rapidly.  Vice-versa too.
    Not worried.  Besides, there are six foot drifts of global warming back east right now.

    From 1250 to 1300, there was extreme dought in the West.  If that happened now, we'b blame Global Warming.  Cycles.  Ever heard of snowball earth?  Entire globe covered in ice.  It's happened a couple of times.  It'll happen again.  Have a nice day and do your part but don't sweat something that's controlled by a source nobody fully understands called Earth.

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  67. Jena D.
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    Steven r knows what he's talking about. It amazes me how many assholes on here are so quick to side with public media and not look at the real picture!!!
    Yes, the climate is changing- happens all the time. Yes, humans have made some damage to our planet! Yes, we can do a lot to fix and halt damage. No!!!!! There is no such thing as global warming. In the 70's it was global cooling for gods sake.
    I hate it when people just eat what they are fed from our government.
    Global warming is a term used to eventually tax the shit out of us. Al Gore OWNS the company that will be charging us for a carbon tax!!!! He will be profiting on 'global warming' ! Oh, and you better start figuring out how to CHARGE the environment for those carbon taxes, cause volcanos make more carbon than ANYTHING man has EVER created or pumped out!!!

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  68. Bill R.
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    But the Libruhls are always telling us how much smarter they are than the rest of us!

    Does this mean they're suckers?

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  70. Manny F.
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    The only hoax going on here is the one perpetrated by the anti science crowd.

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  71. Yelp K.
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    It's really hard to 100% believe in either side when everyone is constantly spewing what could or couldn't be bullshit at you.

    What I think: The climate change is real, but it's always been real, and it is NOT caused by humans, but rather it's a natural occurring process.

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  72. Bill R.
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    15 minutes ago Tom "Gung Hay Phat Choy!" R. says:

    The only hoax going on here is the one perpetrated by the anti science crowd.

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    I don't call being the sucker in a scam "pro-science".
    I call it gulibility.

    But that's just me.

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  73. Bill R.
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    I have a wonderful idea!
    Perhaps all the greens could write the word "SUCKER" on their foreheads in big red letters so we know not to trust their opinions on anything related to science.

    Works for me!

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  74. masa s.
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    Bill - how is being wasteful anti-science?

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  75. Bill M.
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    masa,
    you are 'wasting' your time

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  76. Bill R.
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    masa try again.
    Your question needs work.

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  80. Bill M.
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    yeah yeah...when we suddenly get record snowfall or rain the anti-warming folks get smug.

    *wonders where excess humidity came from*

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  85. Greg P.
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    It seems to me, the only valid "controversy" which exists, is whether climate change is being caused by man made factors, or by nature. The fact it is happening is indisputable, unless it always snows in the gulf states region, and all those rocks in Antarctia which haven't seen the light of day in eons, and are now exposed by unprecedented melt off, or the vast shrinkage and disintegration of the ice caps at both poles are simply an hallucination which is suffered by billions of people and an overpowering majority of scientific consensus.

    Hmm... I vote for the "Greenhouse Effect". Even if it's not the main reason for the change, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF HYDROCARBONS TO BURN! Even if global warming is "hoax" and I don't believe it is, we must shift our energy sources to non polluting, sustainable means.

    I also note, many of the "Hoax" promoters, seem pretty cozy with oil and coal companies and whatnot.

    Captain Pie Hole, The Hash House Avenger.

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  87. Bill R.
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    I'm all for people who want to lower their carbon footprint, have at it.
    In fact I'd like to hear right now how you're living carbon neutral.

    I don't believe us deniers should have to participate though.

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  88. Bill R.
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    The BBC and the Guardian are all over this.

    Amazing how the American press is silent.
    Embarrassment?
    Where's Al Gore?

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  91. Craig M.
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    MORE backtracking......("uh don't drink our kooaide just yet?)
    guardian.co.uk/environme…

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  92. G H.
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    Those backtrackers are going to make more skidmarks than a 500lb man with a lifetime supply of frijoles.

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  93. Bill R.
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    Can we all agree now that Al Gore isn't very smart?

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  94. M Z.
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    Seeing this thread pop up brought a huge smile to my face.

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  96. Bill M.
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    lol troy

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  97. Craig M.
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    UN Climate Scientists NOW want to take accurate temperature data....good grief what took so long?

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/2010…

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  99. Bill R.
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    Denise, Al was involved in the sale of financial instruments premised on the hoax. He's afraid of lawsuits.

    Where is the SEC?

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  100. Theo R.
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    Nope.

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