GOP senate nominee says "legitimate" rape can't result in pregnancy

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    I always learn so much about women's reproductive systems, and science in general, when old white men open their mouths!

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    Rep. Todd Akin, the Republican nominee for Senate in Missouri who is running against Sen. Claire McCaskill, justified his opposition to abortion rights even in case of rape with a claim that victims of "legitimate rape" have unnamed biological defenses that prevent pregnancy.

    "First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare," Akin told KTVI-TV in an interview posted Sunday. "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."

    Akin said that even in the worst-case scenario -- when the supposed natural protections against unwanted pregnancy fail -- abortion should still not be a legal option for the rape victim...

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    All I can do is shake my head

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    Shut that muthafucka down, bitches!

  1. He's right you know.  Most of these biological defenses involve causing physical harm to the attempted rapist.

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    Just when you think that you have heard it all from those conservatards....

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    You would think that these dipshits would make it a habit to run ANY of their public statements past a staffer in charge of PR before they same something that fucking dumb.

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    ^yeah, I am with the OP when referring to the amazingly ignorant shit that old white men come up with.

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    Almost as bad as claiming "she was aroused (wet) while I was raping her so it was legit consensual. Ummmm if any man on a jury was going to explain to me "if she gets wet, she wanted it" I'd fucking blow a gasket a strangle a
    mofo.

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    What would constitute illegitimate rape?

    Also, the female reproductive system WILL shut down a pregnancy after rape.  After 9 months it rejects the baby and expels it from the body.

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    and yet there will still be morons who vote for this charlatan..

    sometimes nodding off in a carbon dioxide chamber seems like the only recourse..

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    Shouldn't we also worry about these doctors he's citing?  Pull their licenses?

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    I am wondering which one of yelp's resident coservatards  is going to be the first to defend this clown?

  2. This isn't a GOP thing.  Me and every conservative I know agrees that this jackass needs to just go away and STFU.  What an idiot.

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    ^^ Wrong Ron Paul thinks Anti-Abortion laws should be removed and leave it up to the states to decide. He was quoted saying "More laws don't solve problems on abortion."

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    I heard about this in the morning. I'm still trying get my head around the "legitimate rape" word combo.

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    Well, I heard someone say that if female orgasms during a rape then it stops being a rape. I am never surprised at stupidity of some things I hear anymore. :(

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    ^ I will assume this was a statement before they went in for a lobotomy.

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    So all the women that were legitimately raped and got pregnant must have been looking for child support and welfare checks.

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    At least 2 GOP Senators have said this idiot should drop out of the race  sfgate.com/news/article/…

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    After seeing the movie Campaign on the weekend, I now realize there was no script.
    It was based on facts by the GOP.

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    All those who think this thread was 100% predictable, raise their hands!

    Me!

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    ^yep, especially your post!  :-)

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    *raises hand legitimately*

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    I think I saw a blonde one in AZ

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    But was she legitimately blonde?

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    nah . . . dark roots

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  3. Only rapists can shut down pregancy, by not raping women.

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    @Jack these days its called Hombre Hair. Maybe she was a blonde who dyed her roots dark?

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    hahaha that must be it

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    Tokyo, please refer to the Orgasm While Pooping thread.

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    well im a legitimate blonde female and registered as a republican... but both parties pretty much disgust me... I'm just hoping for one candidate from either side to be the lesser of two evils in the end

    Someone should tell that dumb guy that the only "legitimate castration" is the kind done with a sharp knife... a dull one doesn't count

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    and there you have it.  

    because of this idiotic statement, 'you'll' never have to consider the opposing side of a political discussion.  you're forever right and allowed to be entrenched in your views because stupid people exist.

    congratulations.

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    Kathy H. says:

    and there you have it.  

    because of this idiotic statement, 'you'll' never have to consider the opposing side of a political discussion.  you're forever right and allowed to be entrenched in your views because stupid people exist.

    congratulations.
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    WRONG! This was not an isolated incident. It's part of a longstanding pattern of Republican leadership making abominable statements. It looks like the mainstream of the GOP is now condemning this guy because they have to, but what about all the other hateful, anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-immigrant statements that GOP elected officials and pundits are constantly making?

    This was the GOP showing us its true colors. Again.

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    Daniel H. says:

    Let Snake-Bone or I rape and impregnate this guys daughter, then see if he's still talking shit.....
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    I understand you're just a troll account, doing what trolls do, but I really hope you get deleted soon.

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    Now don't burn me at the stake here but generalizing any party based on the few that make headlines is absolutly ignorant and moronic. Hell I happen to know GAY republicans for eff's sake, and democrats that happen to own oil fields.

    These sweeping generalizations are what keep american politics gridlocked and what truly prevents any reform from taking place because a select few can not let go of the entire far end spectrum they cling to. BOTH sides can be stupid. Hell just look at the campaign adds running this election, but since it's always lets bash the close minded repulbicans I present exhibit A of stupid shit democrats have said simply to prove that both sides have thier idiots...  on the second one just keep clicking new quote. Frankly I think politicians of any party that say stupid shit in the media should be fined. Hell don't we do that to sports stars?

    trommetter.com/log/archi…
    politicalhumor.about.com…

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    Max, shall I dig up idiotic statements made by Democrats and call it a longstanding pattern?

    Also, I'm not disagreeing with you in that a fraction of the GOP does cater to the religious right.  There's also a sector of Democrats that cater to the radical left.

    The truth is somewhere in the middle.

    This guy does not represent the majority of those who consider themselves to be conservative.  However, you can count on the mainstream media to exhaust this story and have one believe that his dangerous views represent the whole.

    And you're free to believe it.

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    I think I was channeling Meg in my last post... She seems to have made the exact same point above..

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    here's one of my favorites from none other than Mr. Vice President Joe Biden:

    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."

    articles.cnn.com/2007-01…

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    Let's play Troy's stupid game.  

    Who have Democrats alienated:

    1.)  People who want to work to earn their keep, and keep what they earn.  
    2.)  People who take out a student loan, and think that oh, maybe an obligation should be met.
    3.)  People with common sense who know that there are 300,000,000 people in this country -- and will say some silly/inane things -- things that not all people agree with, but thank God, they are still able to say them without being torn from limb to limb.  

    As for Max -- it isn't stupid if you agree with it, is it!  (Mr. BO can say nothing wrong.)

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    Kathy H. says:

    Max, shall I dig up idiotic statements made by Democrats and call it a longstanding pattern?

    Also, I'm not disagreeing with you in that a fraction of the GOP does cater to the religious right.  There's also a sector of Democrats that cater to the radical left.
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    First of all, you'll have to do an awful lot of digging if you want to find comments from Democrat leaders that are virulently anti-woman.

    Secondly, there is no way in Hell the radical left that you say the Dems are catering to could possibly be as bad for humanity as these radical right religious nutjobs. You say my party's catering to the radical left? I say good for them! Maybe, just maybe, we might wind up saving our environment and not being such a shitty country if we put some radical leftists in charge for a few decades.

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    Kathy H. says:

    here's one of my favorites from none other than Mr. Vice President Joe Biden:

    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    Hah, hah, hah, is that all you got? That comment is NOTHING compared to the racism and misogyny and homophobia that we ROUTINELY hear from GOP leaders.

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    Lets add to that GH -   (we're also subtracting from Troy's list because he's obviously wrong on 2 of them)

    4) Immigrants
    5) Children of Immigrants

    Fact:  

    cbsnews.com/stories/2011…

    also, choose your source if you dont like CBS.  (even if it does lean liberal)

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    I'm not surprised by your blind support.

    And that isn't all I have - you can search for yourself.  Will you?

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    You can click on Meg's links, too.  They're filled with idiotic things Democrats have said, but I suppose you'll have an excuse for those as well.

    No worries - pretty standard.

    You can lead a man to water, but.......

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    Kathy, how do you explain the fact that Republican leaders are CONSTANTLY making misogynist, racist, and homophobic statements?

    If you think the Republicans and Dems are equally guilty of this, you really must not be watching the news very often.

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    certainly, che.  as a woman, men like this guy scare the shit out of me.

    am i going to disregard an entire ideology (conservatism) because of a few idiots?  not a chance.

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    it only seems like it's constant because of the sources you read/watch, max.  like abc, cbs, nbc, cnn & msnbc that run these stories 24/7.  these comments will be news for freakin weeks.  but, i suppose that you think the same networks that cover paris hilton and george clooney are credible, unbiased news programs?

    i rarely come across these comments unless I check yelp and/or facebook.  the sources I follow rarely comment on this type of sensationalism.

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    I know it's old, but I'm still amused:

    blogs.phoenixnewtimes.co…

    I used this link because I think it has the most fun pictures.
    No party has an exclusive corner on idiocy.

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    If only our mainstream media (laughable to even call it that) covered serious concerns:

    democracynow.org/2012/8/…

    wondering what you all think about the witch hunt for julian assange?  didn't obama promise us a transparent government?

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    ^unless it was done under bush right, troy?

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    troy don't worry someone will make a tv movie, reality tv series, or game show about it and then it will be okay that "top secret" information is being used. Cause hey if it brings in entertainment money it's okay yeah?

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    Priceless!    Troy and Max will love this one!

    Democrats spent $2,000,000 on Akin's campaign!    

    How could Democrats back this guy!  Oh the horror!  they are so damn insensitive.  Oh, you will say there was all kind of strategy and such -- but the bottom line is this:  They put him in a position where a victory is possible.   Why do Democrats hate women so much?

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    men hating feminists in europe will get to him before the US ever can. (per my g/f in london) there are groups "plotting" how to grab him and extradite him themselves as a form of vigilante justice for the women in Sweeden. Again brings the whole dull knife idea back into play...

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    Bottom line -- they supported a woman hater.

    funny to bring up Assange -- another woman hater.   Bottom line about Assange, he is a coward.  Make that Coward.  A weasel and a Coward.

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    he's innocent until proven guilty, gh.

    and you don't find it peculiar that these allegations came rather quickly after he released the information provided by bradley manning?

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    Of course most hard-core Democrats don't show hate for others because thats their whole Shtick. They create this front of helping others in need while they embezzle the shiite out of your tax dollars. If you happen to be on google and type in Democrat Scandals I'm sure you'll find several cases of fraud and embezzlement like Rod Blagojevich who wasn't just a hopeful Senator he was a f*ing governor.

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    I should add I'm not a Republican either nor do I defend this kind of stupidity in the article. I think for anyone person to label them with such a broad brush like Republican or Democrat is the lazy way out. I pick my issues based on logical decisions not the name brand.

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    Rory -- you have no business being here.  Don't you know voices of reason are taboo?  

    Kathy H --  innocent until proven guilty is not the concept in every country.  Besides, if he wasn't a Coward he would be in Sweden right now, facing the charges and proving his innocence instead of squirreling away in some windowless apartment in the Ecuador "Embassy".  Sorry, I find it difficult to believe that this American government could cook up a plot with Sweden of all places.  Assange is a worm.

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    LOL GH I know reason has no place in YT. We should stick to 5 starring Taco Bell because of the smiling cashier and 1 starring Gary Danko because our cheese wasn't dusted with enough pistachio essence.

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    Kathy the original allegation of rape and molestation were dropped as the first prosecuter did not think there was enough evidence.  A prosecuter specializing in sex crimes against women took up the case and vowed to see it through. The release of documents from the US happened in November of 2010, with the encrypted documents not becoming fully public until midd 2011. The crimes against the women were reported august 2010. You could say the charges are linked more to sweedish womens rights than any sort of strange US sweedish conspiracy theory.

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    I didn't read through the thread.

    With politics aside....religion aside......judgement aside:
    It should be a woman's right to choose whether or not to have an abortion.

    I know that's really simplified. I would have a hard time with late term abortions, but I would leave those decisions to be made between the woman and her healthcare team.

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    TMD stick to chasing woman because you're broad generalizations of our 2 parties are not getting you anywhere. I never said Republican party is hateful and nor are they free of people that screw over tax payers they just have a different approach. If you think the current status of our poor and women is something to be proud of then thats your right. I simply think we can do better and it won't come on the heels of our current system regardless of who is in charge. It will come from within when people start realizing Coke and Pepsi are the same shiite.

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    Thank you Clementine!  It is an individual's decision not the state's, nation's, or anyother person who wants to have an opinion on the matter.

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    TMD Knock Knock? First of of all the guy in this article isn't even in Government he was a hopeful Senator that said some dumb shit and now he's out so you're whole argument is flawed dude. Good Day.

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    No assumption on my part I'm just tired of people that talk and vote based on GENERAL assumptions because it is lazy and alienates those that are Democrat, Republican, Independent, Black, White, Man, Women that actually want to help and don't agree with one bad apple.

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    Well Tokyo --  you seem to be jumping to a ton of conclusion here.

    First, not all Republicans are against Roe v. Wade.  Similarly, in case you were not aware, not all Democrats think Roe v. Wade is good.   Second, the debate regarding being anti-abortion is not based on what a woman can do with her body.  Frankly, you could go take your body and sit on a railroad track -- I won't give a damn, except for empathy with your grieving family.  

    Second, Now then, as for government, the principle is simple.  As government grows, our freedom shrinks.

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    I'm just tired of people that talk and vote based on GENERAL assumptions because it is lazy and alienates those that are...
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    I just want everybody to vote - whatever their reasons might be.

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    ^??? so say you have 100 people voting 40 know the issues and 60 don't. (realitive voting % for americans is 40%). So you get that 60 people just going in and checking a box. How does that make it better? If they simply go in and all check the first box is that truly what they want? or does that discount those that knew what the actual issue was?

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    ^ This explains the straight ticket voting and lazyness. Ahh well my paw was a Democrat and so was his paw so I'll vote everyone as Democrat. check checck check check.

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    So then what's the definition of an "informed" voter?  I have heard some pretty asinine comments from those claiming to be informed.

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    Ouch - rejection of obvious examples from our shared 'Merican past.  But hey, I still think people can learn and can learn to vote - you and I did, right?!
    Thanks for the time and
    Cheers!

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    how about something as simple as knowing who is runnign and their party? Or something as simple as what the name of each proposed law is? such basic items are still beyond many people who "do their civic duty" and check boxes.

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    Actually Meg, the reasoning you state is not altogether invalid.  It was debated quite a bit around the late 1700's.   That is a big reasoning we have a bicameral Congress and the Electoral College.  They knew that a large part of the population was too lazy to be involved.  

    John H -- yeah, right.  How many more handouts you want?

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    No not really Iain. What was said was deplorable and scienfically incorrect.

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    Kinda true Iain... They didn't start threads for the Biden 'They Gonna Put Y'all Back in Chains'  gaffe abcnews.go.com/blogs/pol…

    Or the LGBT supporter ( FRC shooter worked for gay rights group) who shot up the FRC.  washingtonexaminer.com/w…

    But this is the Bay Area and that's their prerogative...

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    ain "Mr. Fetal Position" B. says:

    I think a much more important story that the unfortunate opinion of one politician is the fact that Janet Napolitano has turned the DHS into a male hating, lesbian sorority house.
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    So start a thread to that effect, DHS worker bee.

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    Marion -- first, I spoke for brevity sake.  Second, learn the proper use of language before seek to critique. (Or, is Miss Portray a write-in candidate for one of Trump's pageants?   But, for brevity I did over-simplify.  That was to avoid gargantuan posts.  So far as precedent, the colonies basically already had some bicameral bodies.  While the gist of what you took a book to write is true, it is also true that the framers were concerned about granting all the right to vote.  A two chamber Congress would have resulted either way, the Senate was intended to be an appointed office.  They knew even then that the populace would not always vote logically.

    I've read my Jefferson.  I admit I did not finish my Madison.  But really, it isn't germaine to the overall topic of the thread.

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    Whatever boy, whatever.  One thing about Yelp, it gives opportunity to those who think they are intelligent but will never have any other opportunity to demonstrate that "intelligence" to anyone.

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    Iain "Mr. Fetal Position" B. says:

    I think a much more important story that the unfortunate opinion of one politician is the fact that Janet Napolitano has turned the DHS into a male hating, lesbian sorority house....
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    The first time I ever saw this Iain person, it was because he had inexplicably appeared in the following thread in order to post a totally off-topic link to a racist hate site:

    yelp.com/topic/pacifica-…

    And now he's back, throwing around charges of lesbian misandry. That, of course, is a popular tactic which sexists use when they want to tear down a woman who is in a position of authority.

    I've got to wonder why an Arizona Yelper would want to show up in SF Talk to promote racism and misogyny. That's kind of weird.

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    Marion your intellect is useless if it is merely so you can prove others wrong. Just sayin you could have called GH out for being overly simplisitic in much more civilized manner. We could blame just about everything in life for someone being lazy that in itself is just plain old being lazy. :)

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    LOL assinine(sic) indeed.

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    lol naw dude I went to Texas State where not only was I taught a high level skill that is in great demand I was taught manners. Since you brought it up though I did work as a barista in Denver one winter while I was ski bumming and I got lots of tips from a*holes tapping their foot in line and chatting on their phone. Till this day I respect barristas because they put up with some of the biggest selfish in a hurry pricks of America. You wouldn't happen to be one would you?

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    and where are you planning to go to school when you grow up?

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    Oh so he's the one with the mustache a few feet above my lil nephew out there at recess. Gotcha.

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    haha ahh man you guys are too funny... oh well fun times over back to work...  gotta make Marionette a coffee before he flips out and starts to cry.

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    Wow.  I didn't realize there was a new quarry in California.  They must have really rolled over a big rock to let the latest crawl out from under!

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    Just let him know the first rule for laying sod ---    Green side up!

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    Some GOP rep said that you can't get HIV from heterosexual sex?

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    Huh? You make no sense buddinski

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    damnit che weve been over this it doesn't count as a no if you can nod their head yes! Stop being such a democrat sheesh...

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    I have to keep you in the friend zone for fear I'll get as addicted to you as I am to adderal...

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    Marion, this is your last hurrah before you have to start junior high isn't it? Back to school for you!

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    So Marion's a liberal troll?

    Always nice to have somebody making my side look stupid.

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    Not sure Max.  If you mean putting down everyone is a political persuasion, he might be in a worm casing of his own.  But there hasn't been anyone like him since good old Giancarlo.   But if ever there was a strong case to be made for EIS before new rocks are overturned, he might be the one to convince me of the merits.

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    8/21/2012 G "let's find a treatment for Huntington's Disease!" H. says:

    Whatever boy, whatever.  One thing about Yelp, it gives opportunity to those who think they are intelligent but will never have any other opportunity to demonstrate that "intelligence" to anyone.
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    Did you do that little monologue in front of a mirror?  I hope so.

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    8/20/2012 Seaward "I'll leave when I'm good and ready" Z. says:

    Meg "stiletto ninja" W. says:

    Now don't burn me at the stake here but generalizing any party based on the few that make headlines is absolutly ignorant and moronic.

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    True.  +1

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    Actually not true. - 100

    The House Repulicans sponsored a bill called the "no taxation for abortion act" in 2011.  The House Republicans believe that rape needs to be more clearly defined.  They did this to make a case for pro-life legislations.  Since, in their minds, female preganancies from "non forcible rapes" should not be allowed "abortions..."

    This is their political position on the matter.  Akin simply got in trouble for saying "out loud" what many of these nimrods actually think.

    "This morning brings the latest example -- attention to that "forcible rape" language in legislation co-sponsored by Akin, Ryan (and 225 other members of the House). The legislation, the "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act," restricted the exceptions to "an act of forcible rape or, if a minor, an act of incest" for federally-funded abortions. That language was changed...."

    ABC News:
    abcnews.go.com/blogs/pol…

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    "Ryan, a Wisconsin congressman, and Akin are among the 227 co-sponsors of the "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act," which would prohibit federal funding of abortions except in instances of "an act of forcible rape or, if a minor, an act of incest."..........."

    content.usatoday.com/com…

    I don't understand how any woman, who wants to maintain their rights as human beings to make decisions about their own bodies....would be happy with this bill.

    Registering as an "independent" remains an option for any republican woman who "might" be offended by this disgusting legislation..

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    David, ask Angel about roots.

    Seaward, what if you have been appointed a proxy for 99 other Yelpers?

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    14 hours ago Krissy "Mac n Cheese Queen" K. says:

    So if I have a "legitimate rape" fantasy
    can i trick my natural defenses into action?
    I hope so.  That would save SO much money on bc pills.

    I'm intrigued by this less orthodox approach to national health care.
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    I hope she's being sacrastic...

    + 100!!!!!!!!!!

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    Aaron "My Name is Mud" D. says:
    David, ask Angel about roots.

    Seaward, what if you have been appointed a proxy for 99 other Yelpers?
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    Or for some yelpers with multi-personality troll accounts, a +100 ^ saves you the time of logging into all 99 of them.

    Good Morning :)

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    Ryan, a Wisconsin congressman, and Akin are among the 227 co-sponsors of the "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act," which would prohibit federal funding of abortions except in instances of "an act of forcible rape or, if a minor, an act of incest."..........."

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    Prohibiting federal funding and outlawing are not the same thing.  Just because the evil republicans want to end funding for the National Endowment for the Arts doesn't mean Picassos will be illegal.

    Also, I'm thinking if you can't afford an abortion and are over 18, maybe you shouldn't be having sex?  Just a thought.

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    ^ J.H. it seems to me this is the main problem..."thought" lots of people have yet to discover how that works! They'd rather just fire off accusations because they heard it on a tv program before reading something to understand its real implications and deciding upon their own opinion.

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    ^ but my friend on facebook posted a link that had a ton of likes so that proves its REAL (lets see how many miss the sarcasm...)

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    Ohh Gawwwd the Facebok political activists drive me nuts. My best friend back home just deleted his account and I'm very close to deleting FB myself. I just need to find a user friendly app for sharing photos that my family will use and I'm out.

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    I'm starting to re-familiarize myself with Picasa and Flickr for this reason.  Both work especially well if you're posting from an HTC Android phone.

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    J H. says:

    Prohibiting federal funding and outlawing are not the same thing.  Just because the evil republicans want to end funding for the National Endowment for the Arts doesn't mean Picassos will be illegal.

    Also, I'm thinking if you can't afford an abortion and are over 18, maybe you shouldn't be having sex?  Just a thought.
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    So what you're saying is that women who can't afford abortions shouldn't have access to them. I'm guessing you're also very much against giving food stamps to those same women after they give birth to their rapist's babies.

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    20 hours ago Rory "Pollo" H. says:

    ^ J.H. it seems to me this is the main problem..."thought" lots of people have yet to discover how that works! They'd rather just fire off accusations because they heard it on a tv program before reading something to understand its real implications and deciding upon their own opinion.
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    Rory, denail ain't just a river in Egypt.....

    GWB did an Excellent job overseeing FEMA's efforts in New Orleans.  He was in the crisis room the White House that day delegating America's repsonse.  He did nothing wrong.

    And the House republicans, led by Akin and Ryan did not co-sponsor a bill with "forcible rape.." language in 2011.  That never happened.

    ABC news and USA Today, and all credible news sources in America are wrong.

    You know this because a Leprechaun told you so.....  Something like that.

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    @Max- If you want to find a misogynistic blog defending Todd Akin, go to one titled "American Catholic." Here's what I've learned from "The American Catholic blog" (I will post their links)-

    1)Women exist to be baby machines.
    2)The P**y Riot group that protested Vladimir Putin are sociopaths (never mind that Putin was a KGB thug&has blood on his hands)
    3)If a wife gives her a husband a BJ, she's evil. But if she refuses to give one&he goes to a brothel or a mistress instead, oh, it's her fault. Adultery, spreading STDs, going to brothels are defensible if one is into "natural law." A husband who loves "natural law" is willing to endanger his wife's emotional/physical health with STDs. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Sorta like the Middle Ages when wives were punished with lifelong penance if they practiced oral sex on their husbands (their husbands got off), and "sex courts" would punish wives for refusing if their husbands resorted to adultery/prostitution.
    4)The word p**y is dirty. Some conservative Catholics don't refer to the VagIna Monologues by their name, but as "V Monologues." In other words, hatred of women's genitalia. They can't stand slang terms... but they can't stand the Latin scientific name for women's genitalia either.
    5)Total dismissiveness towards women rape victims. They're expected to be self-sacrificing and carry their rapists' children to term... never mind the trauma&suffering they've been through.

    "The American Catholic" doesn't view women as human. I'm assuming the guy defending Vladimir Putin is beating his meat to pics of the Russian leader shirtless&muscular in Siberia.

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    The web's most misogynistic (and consensual sex hating) blog:
    the-american-catholic.com

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    I guess where Pussy Riot is concerned, The American Catholic is willing to overlook any differences between their church and the Russian Orthodox's.

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    Some weird doublespeak against teachers at the RNC

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    I am not surprised. The GOP hates education, they hate public employees, and they hate union members. The average teacher embodies all three of those things, so of course they're in the GOP crosshairs.

    Let's just close all the public schools and give everybody vouchers so their children can be educated at Christian schools instead!

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    Teachers suck. We all know this. Let's just kill them all

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    And non whites apparently. That was a hella white audience

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    Even Condi Rice was looking around the room saying wth

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    No Max ...  a voucher would be wonderful.  But I wouldn't necessarily have a Christian school as my first choice.  The Hebrew School is an excellent choice (they don't require conversion.)  There are some excellent Catholic High Schools ... (they don't require conversion either.)   And, not all Christian schools are Evangelical.  

    And although I have conservative outlooks on some issues, I don't hate unions.  and I don't hate teachers.  but I think teachers unions are a joke.  And being required to join a teachers union is immoral.

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    @Max- It's ironic that the American Catholic defends the Russian Orthodox Church's bromance with KGB thug Vladimir Putin... in Czarist Russia, being Catholic was *ILLEGAL* until the reign of Nicholas II. Nicholas II was the last Czar. Predominantly Catholic Poland&Ukraine were persecuted under the Russian Empire (tho Czar Alexander I was praised for defeating Napoleon in 1812, his brother is still remembered as an oppressor in Poland)... and the Soviet Union.

    The American Catholic is soooo afraid of using the word "P**y" and yes "VagIna"... one assumes the posters there think lady parts are like Sarlaac in "Return of the Jedi." They hate gays sooo much, yet it was Stephen Fry who said that he knew he was gay when he looked up at his mother's birth canal and commented, "Yuck. I'm not going in there again."

    At least Stephen Fry is sincere.

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    G.H., I'm not talking about you when I attack the Republicans. You represent, in my mind, the reasonable, classical conservative wing of the party, the one that's been pushed into the background by the crazies.

    Chrysanthemum, the great irony I've observed is that these various sects are willing to put their differences aside when they think it will help them win the Culture War against the liberals and non-Christians.

    If they ever do win, it will be interesting to see how quickly the various denominations turn on each other and get back to the business of deciding who's a Christian and who isn't.

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    ^When it comes to P**y Riot, another irony is that it's political conservatives who are on their side. The Wall Street Journal defended them numerous times- they also had an opinion piece from chess master Gary Kasparov defending them, since he has also been arrested for criticizing the Putin regime. National Review, Weekly Standard- conservative publications- and they are as much on P**y Riot's side as kpfa.org with the Visionary Activist Caroline Casey. So the American Catholic is really in a minority.

    I was tempted to do a Yelp Review of St. Pio's Friary in Albany, Wisconsin. Their superior, Fr. Isaac, has a talk at youtube.com denouncing "the error of religious liberty" (to quote the one who posted the vid of him) Yet Fr. Isaac marched on Madison to pray rosaries and "defend religious freedom." Talk about two-faced. He gave a talk here in Napa in which he raged about Jews being cursed, demonizing Protestants as being from Hell, cruelly mocking Buddhists&the Dalai Lama. He thought putting down the Dalai Lama made him some manly man. My mother is politically&religiously conservative-and here's her opinion of Fr. Isaac (drumroll please)-

    He's a phony. He's got anger issues and NEEDS HELP. He's disgusting.

    When Fr. Isaac (Isaac is Hebrew for laughter) started raging against Jews, I walked out. I have NEVER walked out of a talk because I thought that if I stayed, I would've ripped him a new one. And regretted it. I was THAT enraged. But Fr. Isaac seems to feed off of people's anger like a parasite&he has a martyr complex.

    What's the matter with Wisconsin?

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    They ain't diverse.

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    The family of one of my closest friends has always attended a Catholic church in Pleasanton. They are amazingly turned off by their new priest, who's a fire-and-brimstone moralist, and the mailings they've been getting from the church, which rail against the evils of birth control and homosexuality. The Catholic church doesn't seem to get the fact that it's alienating Catholics left and right.

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    ^When they're losing their own- Catholics on the right- that's NOT a good sign. My mother was wary of Fr. Isaac in the first place. His website has LESS info than most on religious orders. MOST religious orders have info on (a)their history (b)how to DONATE (c)what they're about (d)might be on Facebook (e)a typical day.... not Fr. Isaac's. Not AT ALL.

    Fr. Isaac's talk on the "error of religious liberty" is at least an hourlong on YouTube... and yet he marched on Madison, Wisconsin in the "Fortnight for Freedom." So, while his friary's website is secretive... YouTube shows what he REALLY thinks.

    I wanted to quote John's Gospel to him, in which Jesus tells the Samaritan woman "Salvation is from the Jews." I could've used the Bible to PWN him.

    When a right-wing Catholic priest alienates right-wing Catholics who listen to Rush (not the band).... IT IS NOT A GOOD SIGN.

    My sister in Boston is more conservative than me when it comes to LGBT issues, and she thinks that Archbishop Cordileone's DUI in San Diego (he's been appointed to be Archbishop of San Francisco, he is currently Bishop of Oakland) is totally inauspicious. Cordileone didn't have a hit&run with a DUI&a fatality like Bishop O'Brien of Phoenix.... but he isn't installed in his new archdiocese like Archbishop John Roach of Minneapolis/St.Paul who got a DUI after several yrs... and remained yrs after that. My sis is of the opinion that Cordileone got things off on the wrong foot. That his DUI in San Diego has derailed any hope of being in San Francisco. YIKES

    And Cordileone is praised among conservative Catholics for being the "Father of Prop.8."

    Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

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    @Max- So this is why priests who prey on children get defended, but consenting adults who engage in oral&butt secks get condemned!
    crisismagazine.com/2012/…
    According to Thomas Aquinas, consensual s*d*my between adults was WORSE than rape&incest. WTF

    And according to LifeSite, "pro-family leaders are coalescing around Akin"-in other words, they wuv the babies sooo much, but women who are raped&traumatized? Not so much. Because they loooooove the babeeez....

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    "Pro-family" and "pro-life" leaders loooooove the babeez more than women who are abused&traumatized:
    lifesitenews.com/news/pr…
    Yep, all women are are incubators. To heck with them having feelings, needs, HUMANITY.

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    Yeah, what is it with these religious conservatives and their baby fetish? It's creepy!

    As for Thomas Aquinas, I used to have a coworker who told me his commitment to Catholicism was inspired by his reading of Aquinas's work. He made the man sound like some kind of pinnacle of enlightenment. I guess maybe he was wrong.

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    The Catholic League's war on child abuse victims:
    catholicleague.org/bosto…
    Bill Donahue calls survivors of child sexual abuse "pitiful malcontents", compares them to crybabies, mocks them. Donahue thinks making fun of abuse victims is FUNNY! He makes Todd Akin look- *HUMAN.* Akin is wrong about rape, but he isn't laughing demonically at rape victims.
    Donahue is also defending a Catholic priest who claims that teenagers "seduce" clergy.

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    Yep, lotta teenagers out there clamoring to seduce rheumy eyed, whiskey soaked old priests.

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    ^This same Catholic priest claimed he was merely "hypothesizing" that teenagers would seduce priests who suffered nervous breakdowns... that it was just a hypothesis. What disgusts me particularly is that I met this priest in person. I have seen him in the flesh. He seemed holy&good at the time. Now I feel like the daughter in-law of Bernie Madoff when she learned that he was fleecing people of their $$$. It's that bitter, angry feeling of betrayal.

    He did the whole "poor Sandusky" shenanigans&that nobody reported it because apparently they were enjoying it.

    This priest makes Todd Akin look... decent.

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