Commons:Deletion requests/File:Steagul Banatului cu Stemă.png
User's own informal proposal, recreated for the third time after two deletions Oppashi 
talk 10:56, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
PetrusdictusA This flag is what many people from the Banat regard as our own flag. It has the Cross of Saint George, our Patron Saint, and the crest composed of all the historical coats of arms of Banat. Might I remind you that you're using a double standard here, I mean you tolerate on the pages called Transilvania/Erdely a "flag" of Transylvania which has never been. Even worse, it is the former flag of Galicia and Lodomeria with the Transylvanian crest on. And it doesn't even state "unofficial flag", just "steag" which means "flag. But you tolerate that. Our flag on the other hand says "unofficial (proposed)" and it has our historical insignias of which Banatians are very proud. PetrusdictusA
Weak delete The file is (for now) in use on en:Banat and ro:Banat, but on the other hand I suspect it's the same as the one deleted after Commons:Deletion requests/File:Banat, flag (proposed).png and Commons:Deletion requests/File:Banat, proposed flag.png, and also speedily as File:The Flag of the Banat.png. @PetrusdictusA: If you think the previous deletions were incorrect, you should request undeletion at COM:UDR, explaining how the picture could be useful on Wikipedia (or elsewhere). Re-uploading it is simply likely to get you blocked. --bjh21 (talk) 23:57, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
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- We thank you very much for your understanding. It is not exactly the same as the previous deleted files. Those had no coat of arms. But the deletions were incorrect, because we use both versions. It has a similar status to other proposed (unofficial) flags we can find on Wikipedia, like the North Italian Flag. Again thank you.--PetrusdictusA (talk) 06:20, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Kept: in use. --Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 21:05, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
Unused original work. What does "proposed" mean? Proposed by whom? If proposed by some authority, then it's ok, but if it's proposed by the uploader and it is not used in an encyclopedic context, I'm afraid we can't host this. See also previous DR discussions. PS: Also please see File:The proposed (unofficial) flag of the Banat.jpg and File:Proposed Coat of Arms of the Banat.png Gikü (talk) 09:15, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete Unused propaganda item. We should not let anything not corroborated by facts, if not by reliable sources. --E4024 (talk) 09:18, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
- User:Gikü this is the most common accepted flag of our region, the recent poll taken on facebook after one week concluded in 60% approval rate for it. That's why a petition to the Romanian Government was made. And by the way, it says "unofficial", so the information is correct. Also you have on the Transylvania page a flag which isn't official, and which isn't Transylvania's, but presented as so. Also you have on Template:Portal Banat a coat of arms not of the Banat, but only of the Banathian Swabians.User:PetrusdictusA(talk) 15:41, 4 April 2018 (UTC+1)
Strong delete: propaganda item. See for resons Commons:Deletion requests/File:The proposed (unofficial) flag of the Banat.jpg, Commons:Deletion requests/File:Colaj, Timișoara.png--Accipiter Q. Gentilis (talk) 16:27, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
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Annotation: Another attempt of PetrusdictusA from last year: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Banat, flag (proposed).png (and the proving links provided by Silenzio76: wp.ro, wp.en, wp.de, wp.gl)--Accipiter Q. Gentilis (talk) 19:29, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Delete The proposed black bird is neither the Double-headed eagle of Austrian Empire, nor that of en:House of Hohenzollern, nor the raven of en:Matia Corvin, son of en:John Hunyadi. Probably the proposal is the en:Turul, symbol of Hungary and Transylvania, but not of Banat. The bird holds the en:Patriarchal cross, another symbol of Hungary. The background is a cross-flag in the colors of Hungary. The proposal would have chances if the Banat would belong to Hungary, but it does not belong. So it is pure irredentist propaganda, unsupported by any reliable source. --Turbojet (talk) 19:43, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
- User:TurbojetThe Eagle represents: the Turul (native Banathian Vlachs have Hungarian admixture), which is also the deity of the Huns and the Avars, two populations who had their seat of power in the Banat. It's also present on the Cenad clan coat of arms, who were Dukes of nowadays Banat. The Eagle also represents the Black Eagle on the Banathian Swabian's coat of arms. The Cross is a Patriarchal Cross, generally associated in our land with Saint Stephen of Hungary, founder of the Diocese of Cenad, fomentour of Christianity, traditional founder of the Banate of Severin and a Saint in both Catholic and Orthodox Churches. Many old crosses in Banat are like that. Further elements on the coat of arms include the traditional Banathian Lion, the coat of arms of the Dukes from the Cenad and Osl Banathian clans, the coat of arms of Charles-Robert of Anjou, the King from Timisoara, the coats of arms of the Banates of Severin, Lugoj-Caransebeș and Timișoara. You can also notice the symbols of other two populations who established a local home rule: the Triskelion for the Ancient Celts and the Red Eagles of the Gepids.The background is actually the unofficial, and popular flag, namely Saint George's Cross on a green background. Saint George is Banat's Patron Saint since 1028, and white and green are the colours of the Banathian-Swabians. So no Hungarian iredentism, just local symbols of our history, of our origin, of our identity and inheritance.PetrusdictusA
- I don't contest the history of Banat, but there is no suitable source sustaining the proposed flag and coat of arms, so, this is inadmissible. Virtually any part of the world can argue for a color or other heraldic element. Since 1921 the coat of arms of Banat is in the lower right quarter of coat of arms of Romania (the lion), so in the portals about today's Banat it should appear this coat of arms, not one invented by you. See also coats of arms of Banat, none look like yours. --Turbojet (talk) 10:41, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
- No, that's not the Banat on the Romanian coat of arms, it is the representation of Oltenia, englobing the Romanian part of the Banat, which Banathians up to this day condider insulting. The lion is the traditional symbol of the Banat, yet the lion there is Oltenia's. On our coat of arms you find indeed all the previous coats of arms of the Banat: the lion (centre), the Cenadine and Osl coats of arms on the lower half, the Anjou, Banatw of Severin, Banate of Lugoj-Caransebes on the upper half, and Banate of Timisoara down on the peak. PetrusfictusA
- I know the heraldry about Oltenia (the lion) and the Banat of Severin (the bridge and the Danube). But we cannot talk here about which heraldry would be the best because Wikipedia is not a forum. Since 1921 Banat has official coat of arms, even if you or others do not like it. And is no need for county flag, there is any separatist movement of the province. A proposal of flag or / and coat of arms can be considered if it is officially proposed by an organization. Before being formally adopted, that image can only illustrate the article about the organization that proposes it, provided it is mentioned in reliable sources. After it is officially adopted, it will illustrate the articles to which it refers. For now, the images you propose are solely your suggestions. Such images cannot illustrate any article. So, the images cannot be preserved. Please return here after they appear in reliable sources. --Turbojet (talk) 19:20, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- No, that's not the Banat on the Romanian coat of arms, it is the representation of Oltenia, englobing the Romanian part of the Banat, which Banathians up to this day condider insulting. The lion is the traditional symbol of the Banat, yet the lion there is Oltenia's. On our coat of arms you find indeed all the previous coats of arms of the Banat: the lion (centre), the Cenadine and Osl coats of arms on the lower half, the Anjou, Banatw of Severin, Banate of Lugoj-Caransebes on the upper half, and Banate of Timisoara down on the peak. PetrusfictusA
- I don't contest the history of Banat, but there is no suitable source sustaining the proposed flag and coat of arms, so, this is inadmissible. Virtually any part of the world can argue for a color or other heraldic element. Since 1921 the coat of arms of Banat is in the lower right quarter of coat of arms of Romania (the lion), so in the portals about today's Banat it should appear this coat of arms, not one invented by you. See also coats of arms of Banat, none look like yours. --Turbojet (talk) 10:41, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Deleted: per discussion. Ruthven (msg) 11:23, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
