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In Fair Palestine

Thank you i never knew you could do that, this is really good, but how do I get the other article deleted or taken off wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jo Alem (talk • contribs) 15:13, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Our mutual friend

Have a look at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Incivility, disruptive editing, and stalking-like behavior from Isarig. What do you think? Abu ali 20:37, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Cheer up!

I just categorized Helen Thomas as an Arab-American journalist, so now there's five. Majoreditor 03:48, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Welcome back

If you want a laugh have a look at Talk:Racism by country where User:Halaqah has tried for months to get a tiny section on Israeli racism added and whose efforts have been deleted time and again. The length to which some editors are prepared to go, the extent to which they are prepared to sacrifice their own credibility by raising increasingly outlandish arguments in order to try to remove anything remotely critical of Israel, has to be seen to be believed. Just don't waste your time getting involved in this argument. Your talents are best used elsewhere. Abu ali 15:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

to say that, in Akko, Israelis killed 80 Palestinians for no apparent reason and kidnapped and killed Palestinian children is also just 'remotely critical' of Israel?

Is that an improvement? (Third Way (Palestine))

Is your de-fact deletion of Third Way (Palestine) An improvement? methinks not. Some description, even unsourced, is better than none, which would make it a stub! Samfreed 19:11, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Invitation

Belovedfreak 20:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

It's you that deserves a branstar my dear Huldra

I might have beat you to writing that article, but you beat me to the awarding of a barnstar. I too have long admired your edits, your sensible way of dealing with insensibility, your tireless efforts to improve content, layout, everything about Wikipedia. And so I award you:

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		for your substantive contributions to building this encyclopedia and the sensitivity and finesse you display in all your interactions with the community Tiamut 15:31, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Tiamut 15:31, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Humor is good and very much needed around here. People (myself being one of the foremost examples :) can take ourselves too seriously sometimes. While you might be old enough to be my mother, you are way cooler than most around here (which doesn't surprise me - my mom and most moms I know are very cool). I hope to be as cool as mom and grandmother in the years to come. No kids yet, but I sure am looking forward to it. Tiamut 19:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow Huldra. You couldn't be any more wonderful. It's great to have you around here too and thanks so much for doing that redirect. I know I've typed those words in before looking for the article that wasn't there. It feels good to have it now. Almost like we gave them some of the presence that was absent. ;) You know the funny thing about misery, is that it can breed humor. People in the refugee camps taught me that laughing at the absurdity of it all is a useful survival tactic. Not that seriousness isn't often called for, but dark humor can be the handmaiden of the oppressed. Best regards and see you around soon. Tiamut 00:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Present absentees

By the way, do you think Internally Displaced Palestinians should be renamed Present Absentees? Either way, they should definitely be linked to the same place. Do you know how to do that? Tiamut 23:31, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Hafrada

Hi Huldra. I created an article entitled Separation policy (Israel). Then I realized that there is a similar article already entitled Hafrada. I think it should be merged and asked another editor who's working on Hafrada for their opinion. Could you check it out too? I'd appreciate your feedback. Thanks. Tiamut 00:34, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

That's a great idea. I'll do that now. I think I'll shift everything into the Hafrada article and remove the Wiktionary tag and redirect the page I created to Hafrada and then everything should be very cool. Cool. Thanks. I'll chat later but I can't believe that last comment you made. Really. What the hell is going on? Tiamut 01:50, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow! I spent my time between suppressing a smile and a cry and shaking my head. Thank god for people like Punkmorten and Alf. They remind me that I'm not crazy to care about these things. 690 reasons and so many more and counting. And of course I will pass on your love to the kittens (and mom Ayyar) who will get their first greetings from Scandnavia. What a cosmopolitan bunch they will turn out to be. :) Tiamut 02:58, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Al-Ghabisiyya

Hi Huldra, The large paragraph at Al-Ghabisiyya has 3 quotation marks. Can you fix it please? I have some more sources on this that I'd like to add, so I need to know what is quoted and what isn't. Thanks. --Zero^talk 05:53, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I did a lot of work on it. Please put in the Benvenisti page numbers I have omitted. I own that book but I lent it to someone. Cheers, Zero^talk 09:30, 24 March 2007 (UTC).

Thank you

Thank you for your help with blocking the ongoing harassment. As you can see, someone doesn't like my edits to Israel- and Palestine-related articles, sand is attacking me both on Wikipedia and in the nasty little weblog they have set up. The vandal clearly has a filthy mind and an anal obsession, and their smears say far more about them than about me. But it is a wearying task to walk around after them with a cloth and bucket. By my count, there have so far been nearly 150 different user IDs used in this smear campaign, and over 130 articles have been defaced; but Wikipedia seems unable to put a stop to this. I hope that, as a result of yoiur supportive intervention, you will not find yourself a target of this petty-minded campaign by people who clearly have no sensible political arguments to offer. RolandR 17:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you again

I've been away at a union conference, with only limited access to Wikipedia. On my return, I saw that you had reverted several of User:Jaakobou's silly and senseless edits to my Talk page. Thank you. He has accused you of vandalism for these reverts -- and has even accused me of vandalising my own talk page! It seems that he interprets every editorial disagreement with his own point of view as an act of vandalism

I would be very happy if you would join me for a nice cup of tea and a civilised conversation.

RolandR 00:10, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Rashidi

The problem is in the {{ArTranslit}} & {{lang-ar}} tags they put a paragraph break in the line, which results in the numbering restarting. These tags are being changed, so maybe we should change them on the article too. To view all tags used in the article look at the bottom of the edit page. --DelftUser 09:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Numbering them manually has one problem and that is style, we won't get the same nice style. Also numbering in HTML should always be done with the <ol></ol> tag (good HTML rule). --DelftUser 09:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Lamu Islands map

Sorry for the delay, I'm on it. --CommKing 19:55, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Here's the draft. It lacks some information and only covers one of the islands, but I just want to know what else needs to be added to this particular island, if the style is okay, etc. I need to know the amount of detail and labeling the map requires. Since I have never even traveled outside of North America, I presume you would know more about the island than I do. Any pointers would be appreciated. --CommKing 23:34, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
File:Lamu-map-draft.svg

Jaakobou

You may be interested in this: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Jaakobou RolandR 10:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Yom Kippur War

I think that it is time for you to enter in small discussion which I have started about this war. From our working experiance in 6 day war you will like it ! Rjecina 16:01, 16 April 2007 (CET)

This problem is solved. Now I want that on page of 1947 UN Partition Plan to be writen that population of Israel in this plan has been 50 % Jews and 50 Arabs. Now this is writen different because Beduin are not people (they are not in population table but there is only after that comment about them) ? All in all I am not against Israel but against propaganda myth and there is great number of them about this stateRjecina 21:58, 22 April 2007 (CET)

How are you?

Hey Huldra. In an attempt to rectify some of the blatant and systematic bias noted on your user page, I offer the following.

WikiProject Palestine is looking for editors to help build and maintain comprehensive, informative, balanced articles related to Palestine on Wikipedia. Start by adding your name to the list of members at WikiProject Palestine. Ahlan wa Sahlan! Welcome!

Hope to see you there. And I hope you are doing well. Tiamut 10:46, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Welcome back!

I'm so glad to see you around again. Thanks for noticing the work I did at Palestinian costumes, but I never would have thought of doing it had you not started the article to begin with. You should also check out Palestinian people, where they are now a number of link in the culture section to other such pages.

Thanks also for the book recommendation. I will try to get a copy when I am in North America again since I'm pretty sure it won't be available in Nazareth.

About the ducks ... yes, that seems like a likely outcome, but I'm still hoping for a braver outcome.

Looking forward to seeing you around again. Tiamat 10:50, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

We have one library in Nazareth run by a local cultural institution called Beit il-Katib (House of the Writers). There are no publicly funded government libraries in Nazareth. This one I know is very small, but has books in Arabic and English, and lends them out to free to whoever knows that they exist. I know they would appreciate any donations. I'll get you the address (the streets here have popular names like Father of so-and-so or valley of the son of so-and-so that the people use, but the government has assigned numbers only to the streets so I will have to ask them for the exact address. We often joke here that the "streets have no names".) Thanks very much for the offer. And thanks too for the links to cultural resources. So nice to have you back! Tiamat 11:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Yup, no library and a request for an Arabic language university has met with decades of government resistance. There still isn't one yet, even though Arabic is an "official language". I will get you the address for that place soon and send it to via email. I'm sure they'd be thrilled for books in any state. So would I. Library pickings here are slim. Tiamat 12:28, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for those links. I will try to work on Ein Hod some more clearly reflects the complex history of the place. It is fascinating. The list of things to do never ends. :) Tiamat 13:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Huldra. I got you the address for the local library run by Beit il Katib. If you still want to send those books, they are interested. It is: Beit il Katib PO Box 271 Nazareth 16101 Thanks again for the kind offer. Hope you are doing well. By the way, check out Tawfiq Canaan. It's my first WP:DYK article and I'm quite proud of it, though as always, would love any feedback on how to make it better. Tiamat 13:33, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Help!!! Template:Lamu Archipelago

Sure. It sounds like you're trying to design a navigational template - are you looking for something that sits along the side of the page, like {{Deletiondebates}}, or something that sits at the bottom and is probably collapsable like {{Members of the European Union (EU)}}? I can look for the appropriate coding for each of those while I wait for your reply. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 14:18, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

It's not a problem, you didn't do anything that's not easy enough to remove. I'll have a finished product to you in about an hour or so, at the most. Just so you know, since most of the villages don't have separate articles (yet), I'll put them in the template, but I won't make them links. I'll make it obvious that if someone wants to read about that village, they can go to the main article that includes it. If they get articles later, or you really feel the section links are necessary, you can add them in fairly easily. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 14:30, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

How does this look? {{Lamu Archipelago}} Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 15:15, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

You don't have to delete the redirect, I don't think - you should be able to move the page there as it is. I'll set the title back anyway.

I'll re-arrange the pages as you ask. The code's not really all that complex, it's just a glorified table.

I'll try to add the map below the title. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Always glad to be of service. :-) If I may ask, though... why did you come to me for this? I don't think I've really met you before during the course of my editing. (And if I have, I do apologize, my memory for people is a bit on the horrible side.) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:32, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I wondered if that was it - the funny thing is, I just changed that from {{User t|3|c}} to {{User t|4|c}} less than 10 hours before you called! Good to see that template does serve some purpose. :-) Should I need a translation, I will certainly keep you in mind. Likewise, I'm usually available for templates, as well as copyediting for those poor spellers among us. Good night, and happy editing as always. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I see you are hard at work

I miss the note about Reem Riyashi. I tried to find alternate spellings for her name before I started, but I guess I missed that one. Anyway, it was basically the same material, though the language was a little weird (e.g. "the woman" to refer to the subject of the article?!?) Anyway, thanks for remembering the library and for your encouraging words. As we say in Arabic, Salamat (peace!) Tiamut 16:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the compliment on Tawfiq Canaan and the heads up as to the references problem. It seems that when you "cite journal" instead of "cite web", you use "journal=X" instead of "publisher=X" for the journal's name. I guess this is because the name of the journal and the publisher can sometimes be different. Did I tell you by the way that it's wonderful having you back? Well, it is. :) Tiamut 20:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

	File:Hersfold.JPG	Thanks...
	Thank you for showing your support for me in my recent RfA. Unfortunately, I was unable to earn the required consensus and did not succeed. I do hope to put in another request in a few months, once I have improved upon the concerns addressed by the rest of the participants. Your expressed trust in me will definitely help me reach that goal. Thank you again, and happy editing! Hersfold (t/a/c) 01:34, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Your block

Sorry, Tariqabjotu, but I do not understand the reasoning behind your block of Tiamut. If you want to block everybody who has edit warred on ME issues, then I am afraid 90% of the regular editors there would be blocked. I really cannot see that Tiamut has done anything to merit this block: she has had 11 edits to Arab diaspora during three days; not a highly unusual amount; and you block her 5 days for edit-warring? I simply do not understand it. (Also: I know that at least one of her previous blocks was quite dubious and contested ..and now you are using this old contested block against her?)

However, do not in any way question your block of Egyegy; besides the 3RR-issue, I think the level of incivility by him/her is rather more than anybody should have to put up with. Like: "Your messages are almost as ridiculous as your editwarring."[1], or leving messages with edit-lines: "your nonsense"[2]...or lots of the messages s/he has left on talk page of Arabs: not really acceptable, IMO. Anyway; I hope you will review your block of Tiamut, say, if you could lift the block under the condition that she did not edit the Arab diaspora-article during the time Egyegy is blocked? Thank you for your attention, Regards, Huldra 02:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not unblocking her, but I will extend Egyegy's block due to the incivility and personal attacks which Tiamut did not appear to be engaging in. As I told Tiamut via e-mail, she should post an unblock request if she wants a chance to be unblocked (as I see nothing wrong with the block). -- tariqabjotu 03:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Jezreel

i thought it was a fair edit, but the citation needs some refinement so people can find the article's notes on the ref. please fix it up a tad and use the reference <ref></ref>tag. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 10:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

perhaps add the chapter number? Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 12:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

thank you for all the cooperation. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 11:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Ein Hod

It appears that it is being vandalised by an IP out of Israel (nslookup and traceroute say so...). You should report it at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism, but not before sending the IP a warning first.

Cheers and good luck! pedro gonnet - talk - 30.11.2007 14:22

List of Palestinian civilian casualties in the Second Intifada

Hi Huldra! How are you doing? So nice to see you around again. I left a note for an admin to wikilink Asher Weissgan and fix a spelling mistake at the article so that we don't have to wait for the protection to expire. I've also tried to engage some of the editors at the other page List of Israeli civilian casualties in the Second Intifada so as to come to some kind of agreement before the articles are unprotected to avoid renewed edit-warring, but no one seems to be interested in discussion. It's both funny (and sad) how wiki world imitates the real world. See you around my dear. Tiamut 13:54, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome

Hey, that is why I am the Timeshifter. :) Thanks for the links. I bookmarked them. There are many more examples on WP:ANI. I am using only the unarguable ones concerning Wikipedia in hopes that objective people from all sides see the systemic bias. --Timeshifter 13:58, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Ein Hod

I see you just restored the blanked material again. I filed a report with the anti-vandalism crew. I hope that puts an end to it. Tiamut 15:18, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Boy, are they ever fast! Temporary block for the fellow may cool things down a bit. Regards my friend. Tiamut 15:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I checked your contribs and noticed the report. I'm surprised it was declined however, since you right in pointing out that it's more than one IP. Here's hoping anyhow. And thanks to you for alerting me to the problem. Tiamut 15:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Cinema of Palestine

Just to let you know I've create a footer template to go at the foot of pages on Pal. films, actors and directors etc. PLease use {{CinemaofPalestine}}. The Palestinianfilmlist template is intended for the list of films only. This is the template:

Please do as much for Palestinian cinema as you can and start articles on List of Palestinian films. Thank ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^Talk? 20:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Palestinian costumes

I think you deserve a great deal of credit for that article. I would not have thought of creating it, so any work I did subsequent would not have happened without your intiative. I think it's great that people are plagiarising it. :) Good work Huldra! Tiamut 17:07, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Artas segment deletion

I deleted the sentence because it is already stated as a Palestinian village in the lead of the article and I added the Pal muni infobox. The part where it says shows up in the news in connection with the conflict is very general and could be added to any article on a Palestinian locality.

P.S. thanks for the suggestion. I'm personally a big fan of Aburish; I've read his biographies on Yasser Arafat (which I used to expand and verify that article) and on Gamal Abdel Nasser. --Al Ameer son (talk) 18:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Aburish book

Sorry I haven't been able to obtain the Children of Bethany book; my friend is on a cruise until Monday. If you have the book, edit away. Perhaps I'll visit the bookstore tomorrow. Cheers! --Al Ameer son (talk) 05:29, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I added some cultural aspects of eating mansaf from excerpts of the book on google books.com. --Al Ameer son (talk) 05:35, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

1948 Palestinian exodus

Hi Huldra,
could you re-read the lead of this article ;-) Ceedjee (talk) 10:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

User conduct

Hi Huldra. thanks for the question. I'm not going to look into this myself right now. But if the person isn't responsive to Talk inquiries, you could bump it up to WQA. Or, if it's adding disruption within the topic area as covered by the new discretionary sanctions, you could provide diffs and raise the question (calmly, I would recommend) to WP:AE to request an assessment by an uninvolved admin. Thanks. HG | Talk 17:08, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

It's your call. I think if you come in reasonably, noting that we're all still learning about how we might benefit from the new sanctions, nobody at AE would mind giving it due consideration. HG | Talk 17:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me, but have you read *any* of the sources??:

I should ask you much the same. Better yet: have you actually done any research, or do you take biased "sources" and racists as truth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1948remembered (talk • contribs) 17:29, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

1948 Remembered

Unfortunately, the user wasn't willing to cooperate... a shame, I was hoping he'd be willing to talk. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 18:18, 7 February 2008 (UTC)