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:You certainly seem to be singling out IWA, so for fairness sake, either tackle all of them or leave this page alone. I have already started making some changes. More to follow. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:JOEWM2004|JOEWM2004]] ([[User talk:JOEWM2004|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/JOEWM2004|contribs]]) 23:36, 25 November 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:You certainly seem to be singling out IWA, so for fairness sake, either tackle all of them or leave this page alone. I have already started making some changes. More to follow. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:JOEWM2004|JOEWM2004]] ([[User talk:JOEWM2004|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/JOEWM2004|contribs]]) 23:36, 25 November 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::It may seem like that to you, but even if I were singling it out, I'm just improving it in line with Wikipedia standards. Do you happen to have any association with the school itself, by the way?&mdash; [[User:Alf.laylah.wa.laylah|alf laylah wa laylah]] ([[User_talk:Alf.laylah.wa.laylah|talk]]) 23:52, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
::It may seem like that to you, but even if I were singling it out, I'm just improving it in line with Wikipedia standards. Do you happen to have any association with the school itself, by the way?&mdash; [[User:Alf.laylah.wa.laylah|alf laylah wa laylah]] ([[User_talk:Alf.laylah.wa.laylah|talk]]) 23:52, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

== Removal of "segregation academy" from the lead ==

In line with [[WP:LEAD]], I replaced the phrase "segregation academy" into the lead, as, based on amount of coverage in both newspapers and books, this is the single most notable quality of this school, and reflects a great deal of the content in the article.&mdash; [[User:Alf.laylah.wa.laylah|alf laylah wa laylah]] ([[User_talk:Alf.laylah.wa.laylah|talk]]) 23:54, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

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This sounds like a school admissions brochure. Please work on making the language more neutral.

incipient edit war with IP editor

an IP has been reverted twice by different editors for adding copy/paste material from school's website and, in addition, removing sourced material from article. please, IP editor, discuss it here before you do it again. we can no doubt reach some consensus on additions you want to make, but you're not going to get anywhere by reverting everyone like that.— alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 17:32, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

These are hard facts about the school. They are sourced from school material, the school website, and third party sites that any fool can look up on the Internet. Why do you spend free time defacing school's (and this is not the only one) descriptions on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.115.188.230 (talk) 19:25, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They're not hard facts about the school, they're promotionalism. Please read some of the guidelines about what wikipedia is and is not, e.g. Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not for information on what kind of material should be included in an article, and something like WP:RS for information about what kind of sources are necessary to use as references. If you work for the school or are associated with it in some way that's affecting your editing, you may have a conflict of interest, and should look at WP:COI to see how to edit in that situation. I'm also happy to answer questions if you have them, although not if you keep accusing me of defacing wikipedia pages. I haven't done that.— alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 19:43, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another editor has reverted to the version of this page copied from the school's website. Please note that according to that website, www.iwacademy.com, the material being reinserted at this page is COPYRIGHTED by the school. here is the terms of use agreement from the school website. You can see right there on pages 3 and 4 of the agreement that the material on the website is copyrighted. Please, everyone, stop reinserting this material. Thanks!— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 04:54, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note that some of the material in question is also taken word-for-word from this Richmond Times-Dispatch article which, in fairness, is probably a reprint of a school press release. In any case, it's evident that it's copyrighted.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 06:48, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Appearance of undue weight regarding seg academy info

I'm adding a lot of detail about IWA's origins as a segregation academy and about their battles with the IRS. I would like to present a more balanced picture of the school, but it seems that that is the only thing it's notable for. There are about 3500 hits on newsbank from the 80's to 2011, and I'm not finished working through them, but they seem to be either routine coverage of football scores, graduation lists, and so forth, and stories about IWA as a seg academy. I hope someone will be able to find other material, but I haven't been able to do so yet. I just thought I'd drop a note on here prophylactically.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 16:47, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I originally wrote this article and there is much more to this school than the fact that it began as a segregation academy. This is true, but it is no longer true and not even the most important thing about the school. In order for a school to be accredited, which IWA is accredited by two organizations that require non-discrimination, and to maintain tax-exempt status, it is mandatory that they do not discriminate. You need to make more note of this in the article if you insist on changing it drastically from its original form. Also, there are a lot of other schools that have articles that began as segregation academies that you have not insisted on changing. I would suggest that you go alter their sites as well or leave this page alone for the sake of fairness. I am adding some additional information and we can talk about it if you don't like it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JOEWM2004 (talkcontribs) 23:15, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm certainly not singling out this school. I only have so much time on my hands, and I'll get to all the others eventually. Feel free to pitch in! Also, please feel free to add verifiable material to this article, but please make sure you have third party sources when they're necessary. I'm always happy to talk, just please don't remove cited, verifiable, sourced material without discussing it first. Also, please try to watch out for copyright violations. The previous versions were absolutely full of them.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 23:31, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You certainly seem to be singling out IWA, so for fairness sake, either tackle all of them or leave this page alone. I have already started making some changes. More to follow. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JOEWM2004 (talkcontribs) 23:36, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It may seem like that to you, but even if I were singling it out, I'm just improving it in line with Wikipedia standards. Do you happen to have any association with the school itself, by the way?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 23:52, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of "segregation academy" from the lead

In line with WP:LEAD, I replaced the phrase "segregation academy" into the lead, as, based on amount of coverage in both newspapers and books, this is the single most notable quality of this school, and reflects a great deal of the content in the article.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 23:54, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]