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:In case you had not noticed, I am recused on this matter.<p>My ''personal'' opinion is that Malleus tried (and failed) a clean start attempt. It's a little disappointing since he ''is'' correct that his original account does carry out of proportion stigma, but it was also unavoidable that he would be recognized since he eventually gravitated back towards the areas where his temper flares up and returned to the same battlegrounds (the first several months of the George account were uneventful and quite under the radar). Had he not attempted to do so covertly and pretend the George account wasn't his, none of this would have happened. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]</sup> 15:22, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:In case you had not noticed, I am recused on this matter.<p>My ''personal'' opinion is that Malleus tried (and failed) a clean start attempt. It's a little disappointing since he ''is'' correct that his original account does carry out of proportion stigma, but it was also unavoidable that he would be recognized since he eventually gravitated back towards the areas where his temper flares up and returned to the same battlegrounds (the first several months of the George account were uneventful and quite under the radar). Had he not attempted to do so covertly and pretend the George account wasn't his, none of this would have happened. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]</sup> 15:22, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
::You really must learn to control that finger Coren. It will get you into trouble very soon. <small><span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;">[[User:Giano|<span style="color:White;background:Blue;font-family:sans-serif;">'''&nbsp;Giano&nbsp;'''</span>]]</span></small> 19:14, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
::You really must learn to control that finger Coren. It will get you into trouble very soon. <small><span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;">[[User:Giano|<span style="color:White;background:Blue;font-family:sans-serif;">'''&nbsp;Giano&nbsp;'''</span>]]</span></small> 19:14, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== On my resignation ==

''I expect that the Committee will eventually make a notice of my departure on some noticeboard soon, although my resignation has been given some hours ago by now.''

Being on ArbCom is a thankless job. In theory, they are the group of editors entrusted by the community to do all of the dirty behind the scenes work that the community cannot, or should not, handle. To protect the project from the worst problems; be it intractable disputes, privacy-related matters, or even cases of actually dangerous people trying to do harm to the project or its contributors.

In theory.

I suppose it should come as no surprise that a group that is elected in a political context will eventually evolve(?) to become politicized. That it has become so, however, means that it can no longer do the job it was ostensibly elected for.

What should be healthy debate on how to handle matters has become filibustering and tactical maneuvers to gain the upper hand. What should be a concern for basic fairness and propriety has degenerated into bickering about the "Image" of the committee with little or no concern for the project's fate. Trying our damn best to do the Right Thing has been obsoleted in favour of trying to get reelected.

I knew the committee was ailing when I ran again (it was obvious even from the sidelines). I did not, ''could'' not guess how bad a turn it had taken. Despite the valiant efforts of some of its members, the institution is moribund, and cancerous. I have neither the time, the energy, nor the desire to battle ''with'' the committee; I ran to help to project, not play politician.

I remain hopeful that the positive forces within the committee might set matters right eventually, but I no longer expect it.

&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]</sup> 22:55, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

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The Bots project on wikilabs

Duplicated from Meta. Hi! How can I join it? I would like to move there some tools that I run locally and later tools from my Toolserver account as well (when replication is up). Thanks, --DixonD (talk) 07:30, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is no documentation as of yet (I'm hard at work doing that today), but I'd be glad to set you up and show you around if you reach me by email or (even easier) on IRC. You can find my on #wikimedia-labs as user Coren. — MPelletier (WMF) (talk) 12:53, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Secret Informers

Wikipedia should not be a Gestapo type state [1]. It should not operate on the word of secret informers and in-camera trials. Who was the informer on User:George Ponderevo or was s/he invented by the Arbcom) and please supply diffs for the supposed serious crimes. Then please tell the project how each Arb voted - or are the Arbs ashamed of their actions?  Giano  13:49, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In case you had not noticed, I am recused on this matter.

My personal opinion is that Malleus tried (and failed) a clean start attempt. It's a little disappointing since he is correct that his original account does carry out of proportion stigma, but it was also unavoidable that he would be recognized since he eventually gravitated back towards the areas where his temper flares up and returned to the same battlegrounds (the first several months of the George account were uneventful and quite under the radar). Had he not attempted to do so covertly and pretend the George account wasn't his, none of this would have happened. — Coren (talk) 15:22, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You really must learn to control that finger Coren. It will get you into trouble very soon.  Giano  19:14, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On my resignation

I expect that the Committee will eventually make a notice of my departure on some noticeboard soon, although my resignation has been given some hours ago by now.

Being on ArbCom is a thankless job. In theory, they are the group of editors entrusted by the community to do all of the dirty behind the scenes work that the community cannot, or should not, handle. To protect the project from the worst problems; be it intractable disputes, privacy-related matters, or even cases of actually dangerous people trying to do harm to the project or its contributors.

In theory.

I suppose it should come as no surprise that a group that is elected in a political context will eventually evolve(?) to become politicized. That it has become so, however, means that it can no longer do the job it was ostensibly elected for.

What should be healthy debate on how to handle matters has become filibustering and tactical maneuvers to gain the upper hand. What should be a concern for basic fairness and propriety has degenerated into bickering about the "Image" of the committee with little or no concern for the project's fate. Trying our damn best to do the Right Thing has been obsoleted in favour of trying to get reelected.

I knew the committee was ailing when I ran again (it was obvious even from the sidelines). I did not, could not guess how bad a turn it had taken. Despite the valiant efforts of some of its members, the institution is moribund, and cancerous. I have neither the time, the energy, nor the desire to battle with the committee; I ran to help to project, not play politician.

I remain hopeful that the positive forces within the committee might set matters right eventually, but I no longer expect it.

— Coren (talk) 22:55, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]