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:{{reply|TheRedPenOfDoom}} Right, I have something I wish to ask about, loosely dealing with sourcing and how to phrase things in an article. Before that, though, I wish to explain why I chose you out of everyone to talk to for these. Simply put, it is because you and I appear to be on differing ideological sides. This means anything I ask will be held to higher scrutiny, and thus be worth more in terms of the weight I give it for advice and learning. That being said: In the Draft article of the Gamergate Controversy, I see this sentence. "Shortly after the release of Depression Quest on Steam in August 2014, Quinn's former boyfriend Eron Gjoni wrote a blog post, described by The New York Times as a "rambling online essay",[7] containing a series of allegations, among which was that Quinn had an affair with Kotaku journalist Nathan Grayson". The line about it being a "Rambling online essay" is in the source, but I question why it was added. From a neutral view, I cannot see how this adds anything to the article. It seems to merely be a dig at Gjoni, while providing no greater understanding as to why the article was bad for Quinn, nor adding anything to the understanding of the controversy. This leads me to my question: Why is it in here? Is there some rule of wikipedia I do not know that makes it needed?
:{{reply|TheRedPenOfDoom}} Right, I have something I wish to ask about, loosely dealing with sourcing and how to phrase things in an article. Before that, though, I wish to explain why I chose you out of everyone to talk to for these. Simply put, it is because you and I appear to be on differing ideological sides. This means anything I ask will be held to higher scrutiny, and thus be worth more in terms of the weight I give it for advice and learning. That being said: In the Draft article of the Gamergate Controversy, I see this sentence. "Shortly after the release of Depression Quest on Steam in August 2014, Quinn's former boyfriend Eron Gjoni wrote a blog post, described by The New York Times as a "rambling online essay",[7] containing a series of allegations, among which was that Quinn had an affair with Kotaku journalist Nathan Grayson". The line about it being a "Rambling online essay" is in the source, but I question why it was added. From a neutral view, I cannot see how this adds anything to the article. It seems to merely be a dig at Gjoni, while providing no greater understanding as to why the article was bad for Quinn, nor adding anything to the understanding of the controversy. This leads me to my question: Why is it in here? Is there some rule of wikipedia I do not know that makes it needed?
:and when in doubt, the [[WP:RSN|reliable sources notice board]] can help determine if a particular source is appropriate for particular content in a particular article. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 12:57, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:and when in doubt, the [[WP:RSN|reliable sources notice board]] can help determine if a particular source is appropriate for particular content in a particular article. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 12:57, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

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@TheRedPenOfDoom: Right, I have something I wish to ask about, loosely dealing with sourcing and how to phrase things in an article. Before that, though, I wish to explain why I chose you out of everyone to talk to for these. Simply put, it is because you and I appear to be on differing ideological sides. This means anything I ask will be held to higher scrutiny, and thus be worth more in terms of the weight I give it for advice and learning. That being said: In the Draft article of the Gamergate Controversy, I see this sentence. "Shortly after the release of Depression Quest on Steam in August 2014, Quinn's former boyfriend Eron Gjoni wrote a blog post, described by The New York Times as a "rambling online essay",[7] containing a series of allegations, among which was that Quinn had an affair with Kotaku journalist Nathan Grayson". The line about it being a "Rambling online essay" is in the source, but I question why it was added. From a neutral view, I cannot see how this adds anything to the article. It seems to merely be a dig at Gjoni, while providing no greater understanding as to why the article was bad for Quinn, nor adding anything to the understanding of the controversy. This leads me to my question: Why is it in here? Is there some rule of wikipedia I do not know that makes it needed?
and when in doubt, the reliable sources notice board can help determine if a particular source is appropriate for particular content in a particular article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:57, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Gamaliel (talk) 22:47, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]