User talk:The Blade of the Northern Lights

In support of the Karen National Union and their ongoing struggle against genocide.

Why do I miss someone I never met?

deleted article OneTick

Hello, the wiki page for OneTick was deleted in June 2012, Article for Deletion/OneTick after a discussion regarding lack of Notability. In the preceding year we have attained additional noteworthiness. I would like to lobby for reinstating the page. Since you were the last Wiki administrator to comment (June 13, 2012), I am looking for guidance on the reinstatement process. Thank you, LouisLovas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LouisLovas (talk • contribs) 14:45, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

deleted article on Helen Brodie

You had deleted a page called helen brodie. She happens to be a supermodel and a bollywood actress. I would request you to restore the page.

Warm Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.68.155.94 (talk) 22:20, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Note

As of this message, I respectfully ask that I only be contacted if it is absolutely necessary to do so. If you need to question an administrative action of mine or leave an AN, ANI, or ArbCom notification, so be it, but anything else can wait. Over the next few days, I intend to pour all my on-wiki time and energy into one article; I'm finding the process has left me with some bad, bad, visceral feelings that are going to take a long time to shake off, which makes it a lot more difficult than I was expecting, and I'd really appreciate being able to focus on this one issue. I'll be back at full strength in a few days. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 21:59, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello... I did read what you said above, but hope you will accept and forgive this interruption in your work as it is just a big, big thank you for working on Genie (feral child). I've been meaning to tackle this important article for years. I even suggested a friend of mine that she should get her students work on it as a project, but she felt a bit intimidated and never got round to it. I see you've cited her in the article, which now makes the whole thing totally weird and perfect!! Anyway, if you'd like, I'll have a go at copyediting etc at some point. Merry Christmas if you celebrate it, and if not happy holidays, and once again, thanks!! Slp1 (talk) 22:31, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I'm kinda happy that someone noticed my work there; I've had no one else to talk to about it. I didn't want to directly say what it was that was bothering me, but I suppose it's pretty obvious now. The film from the NOVA documentary is really what got me; I've never cried reading or watching anything, and this didn't change it, but for some reason I found it very hard to stomach and I knew I wouldn't be able to do the work I wanted if I didn't really give it my all. If nothing else, I've learned a ton from doing it too. I daresay my writing is far from perfect, so your improvements (especially with regard to her impact on linguistics; Curtiss' book and some of the other materials are very hard to come by) are of course quite welcome. Although I really don't care about GAs or FAs, I'd really love to see this article get to the main page some time; not sure if that's realistic, but something to shoot for. And as a side note, I'm wondering if there's perhaps a better title for the article; when I think of a feral child I have someone more like Oxana Malaya in mind. I know there's not really a good word for it (the irony isn't lost on me), but when I look at Category:Feral children, Genie doesn't quite seem to fit with the rest. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:46, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Actually, now I have a concrete issue. www.academia.edu/412729/Contradictions_and_unanswered_questions_in_the_Genie_case_a_fresh_look_at_the_linguistic_evidence is a URL to the 1995 analysis from Peter Jones, and I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the URL to be a link. If you could figure out how to fix it, or at least where to go to get it fixed, that'd be great. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:12, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Re your link problenm -- you left out the http:// [1] OrThusIfLinkTextWanted EEng (talk) 15:06, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks; my Firefox browser leaves the http:// part out of the URL bar, I occasionally forget that. Now people will actually be able to see what I'm referencing instead of getting directed to a paywall. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:39, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Hope you didn't mind my copyediting -- I love to tinker. Let me know if you want me to wait until later before continuing (or maybe my attention will be diverted by some other shiny object and I'll lose interest). EEng (talk) 16:32, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

No, no; please do whatever you can. This is the first time I've had any assistance trying to do a major overhaul of an article, it's very helpful. You've already gotten some things I would have completely missed, I'm sure there's plenty more lurking in the background. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:34, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

I was kinda scared I would offend you by disobeying the no-message message, so I am glad the contact was welcome! You are doing a great job, and I would love to help: I've just taken on another massive project so I can't do very much for a while, but will do what I can. I'm better on sources - and will see what I can do about getting hold of Curtiss etc - rather than technical things like wikilinks but I will see what I can figure out. It's a good point about the title. Something to think and talk about on the talkpage maybe?

As far as getting it on the mainpage, and as a BLP it only needs a two-fold expansion and full citing, so if that interests you I think you could nominate it for that. I agree a GA/FA etc would be fantastic. It would need a bit of work on the linguistic/psychology implications with recent sources, but I am sure it could easily be done. It's looking good at present. Slp1 (talk) 00:58, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Whatever you can do is hugely appreciated. I'm obviously not finished, as I know the linguistic issues need a lot more work yet, but I figured it'd be easiest to fix some of the formatting issues and wring everything out of the sources we already had first. My trade is history, not linguistics, but I'm usually good at finding whatever information I'm after (getting my JSTOR account will help a ton). As for the title, I guess the talkpage is about as good a place to put it as we'll find, maybe I'll leave a message at one of the village pumps too. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:34, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't spot that you were editing at the time. I'll back off for now. - Sitush (talk) 17:33, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Hey, everyone's supposed to be able to edit it whenever; it's totally fine with me. I'm just about finished anyways, so have at it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:34, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Tweaking can wait and edit conflicts are a pain for the person who is making more significant edits. It is good work that you are doing there. BTW, I've just discovered that I may have to change my standard "I have no connection with India" response to accusations of POV pushing etc. It seems from one census return that a great-great-grandmother of mine was born in Bangalore, although she married and lived in Manchester. I'll need to scour the East India Company lists etc for the Bainbridge family in Bangalore, although I think the connection sufficiently distant as not to impact on neutrality! - Sitush (talk) 19:34, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

I should think not; I don't consider myself to be particularly biased in articles about various Indian tribes because my great-great-great grandfather was taken captive by a group of them. Good luck with your genealogy project. Anyways, as stated above I should be back in action before too long, and I'll back you up wherever necessary; I just thought it was plain wrong that an article on such a wrenching subject was so inadequate. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:07, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

The Genie subject is heartbreaking and it is a new one to me. I'm not really equipped to do more than copyedit because the academic side of things (linguistics etc) is well out of my range and I'd be worried about interpretation of sources etc. My grammar/phrasing is not great and we have the US/English English issue to transcend but I can fiddle with things. This is exactly the type of article where someone with the abilities of Malleus would come in handy.

If the article was a book or newspaper feature then the obvious question would be "what happened next" but, for her sake, I hope that it lies in obscurity. An unhappy note, to be sure, but please do keep digging into this one. I worry slightly about it possibly achieving FA status because of the potential spotlighting (assuming the poor girl is still alive) but, well, it is a "must do" emotive subject that can be approached neutrally. Drmies might be worth a prod (not a WP:PROD!), both for ce and for linguistics. My best wishes: content-writing admins who also act as admins are a rare breed and it is appreciated. - Sitush (talk) 01:20, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Like I said, any kind of help is hugely appreciated; I'm no linguist myself, though I am familiar with the subject and who the best people to look for are (it'd be hard to get a BA in history without some knowledge of it). Unlike past articles I've built out of nothing or almost nothing, it's great to have people to work with, and I have no intentions of stopping (my primary hangups are getting ahold of Curtiss' dissertaion and trying to find some post-1980's works on her). I may give Drmies a message, though I certainly wouldn't want to saddle anyone with something like this on Christmas. As to the "what happens next", aside from knowing she's still alive we really have nothing after 2008, and given how negatively transient faces in her life seem to have affected her I also hope it stays that way. What's made this so hard is how this manages to produce a lot of ratcheted-up feelings all at once; I've tried (and IRL completely failed) to explain how difficult it becomes to dispasssionately write about a subject that evokes so many powerful emotions. The NOVA documentary is very hard to watch, but it's very captivating; if nothing else, it shows that enough evil can overcome even the greatest amount of compassion. Does put things into perspective... maybe I'll need to update the essay after all this is done. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:44, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Do you still need a copy of Curtiss' dissertation? It is available on JSTOR and I can email it to you. Ankh.Morpork 14:45, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Hm. I went a bit further with my history studies than a BA but had never heard of Genie before seeing this thread. Cambridge is known for its liberal education but nonetheless this one has passed me by, along with about 99.9% of all other knowledge and 100% of MMA knowledge I am possibly inching towards 99.8% but, really, I'm more than happy to leave the MMA stat where it stands currently ;) Have a nice day. - Sitush (talk) 14:55, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

You do too. And AnkhMopork; that would be incredibly helpful if you could send that to me. I would be eternally grateful. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:51, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Please email me so that I can send it as a file attachment. Ankh.Morpork 19:16, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Sent. Ankh.Morpork 19:40, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

And received and downloaded without a hitch; thanks again!! The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:45, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

I stopped by just to see what you were up to, now that I've started editing more frequently again, and read the conversations above. I've tried to pitch in with copy-editing. Please revert anything you don't think improves the article. This overhaul is obviously, and understandably, a project close to your heart. Given our prior collaborations and your help in providing me guidance, perspective and a powerful example of how wikipedia - and wikipedia editors - should work, I would never intentionally do anything to degrade your efforts. So please accept what's useful and revert what's not. David in DC (talk) 22:45, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Myself, I make it a point to do a "Blade degrade" once in a while (e.g. [2]) just to keep in practice. Mercifully it will be quite some time before Genie turns 110 (David, you will know what I'm talking about). EEng (talk) 01:38, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Hey, great to see you back! Your efforts so far have proven quite helpful; I just made a massive addition and tweaked a few other things here and there, I didn't see anything you did which I had to correct. Thank you so much for helping out; this is so much nicer than trying to do it by myself. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:10, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Blade. do you have JSTOR access or not? I seem to recall your name being somewhere in the deep mix on the recent WMF initiative page. I thought that you were inside the Blessed 100 but, if not, then just ping me if you need anything because - yey! - I was. I've already been really hitting the thing, although without much evidence of that so far on WP. Behind the scenes, it is already proving to be very useful. You'll probably already know that I am a "sources" person but the research sometimes takes a while to show. I'm more than happy to run general searches if you are not sure what it is that you are looking for. - Sitush (talk) 00:37, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

I got a message from Steven Walling, I'll need to sit down and figure out how to activate it; now that the sources most readily available to me are starting to run dry, I can't avoid it anymore. In the interim, anything you can do is most appreciated; I can still see some gaps I want to fill in. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:10, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Please, please read the note at the top of this page. I'm not saying you can't leave me a message, but consider whether it falls under what I laid out above; for a variety reasons mostly related to my article work and the extremely strong emotions it inevitably elicits, I'm still not in a good place to be dealing with a lot of day-to-day Wikipedia issues. I'd rather not go into specific details here, at some point I'll probably collect my thoughts in some userspace essay—although I'll admit here the picture used in the news stories at the time is now permanently burned into my mind—but please just reread my note before leaving me anything. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:13, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I Dream of Genie FYI, I'm holding off on more copyediting until content contribution has settled down. Can't concentrate with all the construction going on! EEng (talk) 05:49, 28 December 2012 (UTC) Wonderfully said ... Hi there Blade. I can't say I really understand all that went on, but I did read a really great comment you made about our all having "Wikipedia" as an "armor" .. I don't have the diff right at the moment, but I thought it was an absolutely wonderful sentiment. Kudos to you for such sage thoughts in what was apparently a real mess. All my best to you and yours through the rest of the season. ... and thank you for always being a voice of kindness and reason. Ched :  ?  17:15, 31 December 2012 (UTC) Thanks; I happened to be listening to a song called Armor and Sword, and I thought the analogy would work pretty well (most of it is about relationships). As is fairly obvious above, I've been kinda in the zone on one article, but I happened to check AN to make sure my name hadn't been mentioned somewhere and saw all that... what a mess. Can't feel all that horrible about it (I have the article I'm working on for that), but it's still not good to see. I hope things eventually clear up one way or another. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:22, 31 December 2012 (UTC) Oh my - I just read through the Genie article. (some very nice work by the way). Reading something like that certainly does tend to put things into perspective. That would be a tough subject to devote time to. — Ched :  ?  18:00, 31 December 2012 (UTC) Shields up, Mr. Sulu. Yellow alert! [3] Call Norad! Go to Arbcom 4! EEng (talk) 05:28, 13 January 2013 (UTC) Topic ban vio? Do you consider this edit [4] to be a violation of Maurice07's topic ban? Thanks, Athenean (talk) 07:24, 14 January 2013 (UTC) For the record, my 2 cents was dropped on my talkpage. Also there is a thread at Heim's talk about this. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 07:30, 14 January 2013 (UTC) Talkback Hello, The Blade of the Northern Lights. You have new messages at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Editor Retention. Message added 02:26, 18 January 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. FYI Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:26, 18 January 2013 (UTC) Thanks; I'll drop in there at some point. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:30, 18 January 2013 (UTC) Still in reclusion? I gather your "Do Not Disturb" sign is meant to be down now, maybe? If not send me somewhere else, but since I know you have a tender place in your heart for those whom life has dealt bad hands, I wonder if you can take a look at [5]. My concern is (a) that no one seems to have followed up on the actual deletion, which is inevitable, and (b) that when that happens, it be done with a bit more gentleness than has been manifest to date. EEng (talk) 14:21, 19 January 2013 (UTC) P.S. Can I copyedit now? Huh? Huh? Can I can I can I? Well, I did leave the sign up intentionally, but I'm more than happy to help out with that situation; it's not total isolation. As for the copyediting, have at it; I'm not going to be able to do anything really substantial on the article for several hours, so it's all yours. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:22, 19 January 2013 (UTC) Speaking of macrons.... ...whatever they are, I thought you might be interested in [6], though Í've not the foggiest idea what they're talking about. EEng (talk) 23:30, 19 January 2013 (UTC) A macron is the horizontal line over letters; o without, ō with. They're used in Japanese romaji to indicate a vowel with two morae; for instance, chizu means map but chīzu means cheese. The other common way to indicate two morae is to write two vowels; chiizu would also be fine for cheese (for e and o, you'd do this as ei and ou, hence wasei-eigo). I'll look into the discussion later. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:38, 19 January 2013 (UTC) I thought it was something like: Captain: But Spock -- how is that possible? Spock: It appears, Captain, to be a macron-based life form unlike any with which I am familiar. However, on Beta Antares 4 there have been reports of --" Captain: Oh, shut up, will you for once, Spock? EEng (talk) 23:18, 21 January 2013 (UTC) Parenthetically speaking—dash it all! Just so there's no misunderstanding, while I may push back a little I believe that the sum of my slash-burn-relentlessly-boil-down approach plus the tempering instincts of someone less expositorily bloodthirsty such as yourself, works well. Because I trust you I don't always review everything you do, which means that sometimes I will reintroduce a change you backed out, because I might not recall whether I actually /did/ something, versus just thought about doing it. If that happens and you feel strongly, just re-revise. If I still don't get the point, better Talk me. I do love my dashes and parentheses—I'm told people (most of them, anyway) eventualy get used to them. I think this is going quite nicely, don't you? EEng (talk) 21:31, 21 January 2013 (UTC) Yes, I'm finding the process rather engaging. I have no problem with you removing anything, I can always readd it if necessary; if anything, your removals have helped a lot, as an outside view will sometimes catch things that either should be removed or need clarification on why it's useful information. Absolutely nothing being taken personally, your editing has been enormously helpful. I'm somewhat prone to overusing parentheses myself, so I'm perhaps a bit oversensitive to trying to cut them out, and no objections to your dashes. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:06, 21 January 2013 (UTC) Good, gooood! My plan is working perrrfectly. [Laughs diabolically, rubs hands menacingly] EEng (talk) 23:22, 21 January 2013 (UTC) Heh. The line which seems to be giving us the most trouble now had never caught my attention, as it was there before I was, so I'll see if I can work it out. I think I've finally parsed why the book notes it (if it was worded any more ambiguously I never would have understood it, and compounding the problem is that I'm from a state in which everything is run by the state; there is no county-level organization), and your wording seems as good as anything I'm likely to come up with. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:40, 21 January 2013 (UTC) Also, to save you a bit of work the Early life, Second foster home, Debate, and Related studies sections were worked over by someone else, so you probably won't have to worry too much about those. Slp1 and David in DC seem to be a lot better at understanding the virtues of brevity than I am... honestly, at least part of what captivates me is the fact that, apart from our mutual difficulties with certain types of facial recognition, Genie is my diametric opposite. To compensate for my total ineptitude at non-verbal communication (thank you PDD-NOS...), I've developed an extremely large vocabulary and a proclivity to use it to excess, so this gives me some insight into the other extreme end of communication difficulty. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:21, 22 January 2013 (UTC) Your free 1-year Questia online library account is approved and ready Good news! You are approved for access to 77,000 full-text books and 4 million journal, magazine, newspaper articles, and encyclopedia entries. Check your Wikipedia email! Then go to https://www.questia.com/specialoffer Input your unique Offer ID and Promotional code. Click Continue. 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He has already been blocked once for violating his topic ban [10]. Any help in dealing with this disruption would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Athenean (talk) 00:55, 27 January 2013 (UTC) Yeah, those are really bad. Blocked for a week. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:17, 27 January 2013 (UTC) Talkback Hello, The Blade of the Northern Lights. You have new messages at Scottywong's talk page. Message added 10:17, 27 January 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. FYI Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:17, 27 January 2013 (UTC) Questia email success: Codes resent Check your email. Enjoy! Ocaasi t | c 21:40, 27 January 2013 (UTC) Thanks for the assistance in squashing vandals! I owe you thanks for helping to squish vandals on my userspace. You should be rewarded for being diligent, swift, and helpful to users. Thanks again! --Thomas (The Lord of Time) (talk) 20:42, 28 January 2013 (UTC) ANI What protection level did you apply to ANI? I'd never seen it before, is it different from semi-protection? Ryan Vesey 23:36, 28 January 2013 (UTC) It's standard semiprotection; not sure why the message was different, but it's just regular semiprotection. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:47, 28 January 2013 (UTC) WP:ARBMAC Violation Hi Blade. I would like to inform you that User:Slovenski Volk violated WP:ARBMAC ban on Macedonian language[11] (and I think on Bulgars[12] and South Slavs as well[13]), while at the same time called me an idiot in this edit summary [14] when I reverted his edit (he of course apologised to me[15] when I asked him for the reason of that edit summary[16]). Macedonian (talk) 08:32, 10 February 2013 (UTC) RfA: thank you for your support Blade, thank your for kind words and late-breaking support during my recent RfA. Your willingness to commit your support during the sound and fury in the final hours meant a great deal to me. Warm regards, Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 14:59, 13 February 2013 (UTC) A cup of coffee for you! I would like to talk to you about Wikipedia development in India at the NYC event. I hope to see you there and look forward to meeting you. Blue Rasberry (talk) 12:24, 18 February 2013 (UTC) Venting: What cannot be said in article space (No need to read this. I'm just annoyed and taking you up on your invitation. Nothing to do with you or anything you've edited.) Consider what these two sentences have in common: Use of Ezra Pound's Parable of the Sunfish is rare in scientific publications. The Prabhat Samgiita is performed rarely, if at all, outside of RAWA-sponsored events. Neither statement can be sourced reliably—not surprising as no one has been interested sufficiently in either topic to write about articles that fail to contain an anecdote or performances that have never been scheduled. Yet any competent editor could sit down and, after some amount of research, conclude that both sentences are likely accurate. There is no mechanism for getting this information back to the reader. And why does this matter? "Parable" cites all the scientific papers that quote it, and "Sangriita" will no doubt list every RAWA-sponsored performance. This leaves the impression on the reader that these examples are drawn from a larger population when the editors well know this is not at all the case. And yet... this state of affiars prevents creationists from claiming "There is no evidence the Ichthus Heliodiplodokus evolved." Of course this is true (and not only because the fish never existed), but this is not the entire story: the same human impulse to write only what is considered important means the fact of evolution is not notarized in peer-reviewed journals for every species discovered. The cure here is far worse than the disease. Thanks for the opportunity to vent. It helped. Delete this at your leisure. Garamond Lethet c 07:31, 19 February 2013 (UTC) I've looked it over, and all I can say is wow. I feel your pain on both fronts, if there's anything I can do to assist you on either one I'm more than happy to step in. It's hard to believe either one of those could go on like that... glad you got your frustrations out here, I mean it when I say this is a fine place to vent. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:06, 19 February 2013 (UTC) Lightning talk Hi Blade. There is a (low!) possibility that I can swing by for an hour in the afternoon on Saturday. Any idea when you'll give your talk on Indian castes? --regentspark (comment) 16:08, 21 February 2013 (UTC) Not entirely sure, I think we did it early afternoon last time, around 1. That'd be awesome if you could make it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:49, 21 February 2013 (UTC) I'll try to be there at 1. Might have to drag a seven year old along (not easy!). --regentspark (comment) 17:00, 21 February 2013 (UTC) Good luck with that; as the oldest of 4 siblings, I have some idea of what that can be like. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:16, 21 February 2013 (UTC) I just rechecked the schedule; it says they're doing it at 2:30, though somehow I get the sense it's going to start a little earlier than that. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:36, 21 February 2013 (UTC) That pushes it back a bit. But I'll try. I will be downtown anyway, just gotta make it work somehow with the kids. --regentspark (comment) 02:13, 22 February 2013 (UTC) Good luck with it, and I hope to see you there. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 06:28, 22 February 2013 (UTC) Stuck uptown. Enjoy! --regentspark (comment) 16:16, 23 February 2013 (UTC) Do you have a transcript, Blade? Or is it all done ad lib? - Sitush (talk) 16:36, 23 February 2013 (UTC) (ec) A video version perhaps? --regentspark (comment) 16:37, 23 February 2013 (UTC) Yeah, yeah, There's the systemic bias again. <g> What we need is an audio-visual version: either both a transcript and a vid, or a vid with subtitles. In every language, of course. But do we really want to see what Blade looks like? In fact, does Blade really want people to see what they look like? To have an identifiable image circulating the web when dealing with caste stuff? I've had death threats just for the written version! More seriously, anything would be better than nothing - "owt is better than nowt", as people around my environs say. You have my email addy if that is preferable. - Sitush (talk) 01:42, 24 February 2013 (UTC) I have a transcript, I'll send it to both of you tomorrow after I get off work. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 05:00, 24 February 2013 (UTC) A Barnstar especially for your work on Genie All Around Amazing Barnstar Great job! I am One of Many (talk) 19:22, 21 February 2013 (UTC) Maurice07 evading AE topic ban on Greek-related topics through IP Hi Blade. IP 188.3.111.74 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is Maurice07 (talk · contribs) evading his AE-imposed ban on Greece-related topics. Please note: the IP is continuing the edit-warring on Echinos for which the master got blocked in the first place. Here the IP is removing information about Cyprus in Mediteranean Sea in an edit the master had introduced in the past. Also see stylistic similarities in edit-summaries: Latest revision as of 18:32, 26 February 2013 188.3.111.74 (Hatay is no longer disputed between Turkey and Syria!) and Maurice07: Maurice07 (See talk page!). Many of the IP edits are also onomatological edit-warring of exactly the same type Maurice07 got blocked for and banned from. And of course the IP is edit-warring trying to add Turkey's dimplomatic missions to Europe rather than Asia, a personal favourite of Maurice07 when he massively edit-warred in the past about the same issue and got his first block on that account. Best regards. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:28, 26 February 2013 (UTC) Oh, fun. Looks pretty damn obvious to me, so blocked. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:44, 26 February 2013 (UTC) Thank you Blade. All the best. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:49, 26 February 2013 (UTC) Hi again Blade. This is a comment regarding Maurice's current unblock request. The IP 188.3.111.74 gets blocked on Wikipedia at 16:44 UTC on 26 February. Then at 19:05, on the same day, the same IP goes to Commons and, out of millions of files at Commons, alters one of Maurice's files by removing the Greek name of the file. Note that this is the only edit the IP has made to Commons. And Maurice07 wants to present this IP edit at Commons, in his unblock request, as proof that the IP is not him. The timing and location of the IP single edit at Commons and Maurice's use of the same IP edit in his subsequent unblock request is quite a coincidence and that is above and beyond the rest of the flock of evidence. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:34, 27 February 2013 (UTC) David Reimer Hi Blade, I think you might find the case of David Reimer interesting if you have not already heard about it. Here is the youtube documentary (first of five parts): A boy who became a girl. --I am One of Many (talk) 23:52, 26 February 2013 (UTC) I heard of that story many years ago, but I couldn't remember the name; thanks for that! It certainly didn't hit me quite the way Genie has (at the risk of sounding really strange, I can safely say I was much less rattled after watching video of Auschwitz and Buchenwald than I was after the NOVA documentary; I'm still carrying around a lot of very visceral feelings even now, that's what keeps me so zoned in on it), but it's another very interesting case. Perhaps I'll do some work on that sometime, if I ever do finish the work on Genie and the people around her. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:27, 27 February 2013 (UTC) The parallels are striking though. It is another example of a "forbidden experiment" gone wrong. Also, you are clearly bringing Genie to a feature level article, which is certainly deserves.--I am One of Many (talk) 23:25, 27 February 2013 (UTC) Indeed; that's another really awful story, and one which should be well-documented. It's a little further out from what I usually do, but certainly something I could handle. As to Genie, I don't personally care about having an FA myself, but enough other people wanted me to let it through that I acquiesced. It's hard, as I have a lot of very strongly held opinions- among others, I seem to be a lot more sympathetic to the scientists at the center of the case than many of the sources, and I have no great love for the horribly misguided actions Genie's mother took; bluntly put, she had her chance and look what happened, the scientists were the people she should have begged- but I think I've managed so far. And while you're here, thanks for copyediting. I have a tendency to produce William Faulkner-esque sentences (ironic, given I'm much more inclined towards reading Hemingway), and cutting those down is very much appreciated. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:05, 28 February 2013 (UTC) I think you are doing it just right. The thing that really screams out is the foster care system in California, at least at that time. I think the scientists involved were well-intended and Genie did improve early on substantially. If I were conducting the research, I would have focused first on the long-term plan for rehabilitation and then conducted less obtrusive observations to assess progress over time. In the case of David Reimer, there is more of a case for scientific misconduct, but I think there is likely much more to the story that we may never know. I also agree that creating an FA for its own sake is not particularly interesting, but creating high quality one is a great goal and you have done an especially good job of explaining the science.--I am One of Many (talk) 08:35, 28 February 2013 (UTC) I remember from the program I watched on Reimer some of the descriptions of the "treatment" Money gave him; what we know is bad enough, but as you say we're probably not going to know everything. Between there being far fewer people at the center of that case and many of those people already being dead, there's probably a lot we'll never know. Honestly, I hope it stays that way, as I think the people around Reimer have been through quite enough already and the details we already have speak for themselves. Same basic thing with Genie; I honestly hope the next time we hear about her is if Susan Curtiss is able to reconnect with her and decides to make a public statement (although who knows, she may have already and decided not to say anything; I really desperately hope that's it). I tend to think the scientists did the best they could in the case, and if they'd had their way things would most likely have turned out much better. The state foster care system is, as you say, what really what made this so much worse than it had to be, although they wouldn't have been involved if Genie's mother had taken honest stock of her role in Genie's condition and not listened to Ruch (at least Ruch got what was coming to her, though; you couldn't come up with better irony than seeing her rendered aphasic). Honestly, I question the wisdom of even allowing her back into Genie's life, given that her brother wanted nothing to do with his mother after he was 18 and Genie didn't seem to care much about her mother when she was first freed. Back on topic, though, I added another source to the article yesterday out of necessity, as I needed to give some other third-party analysis of Curtiss' dissertation in the Debate section. However, I thought the parts of that source that didn't critique Curtiss' dissertation were unnecessary nastiness towards the scientists, and backed up its assertions with some pretty blatant quote mining to boot; fortunately, though, using sources like that is what I do best (my specialty is the Ainu people, and just about everything written on them is overtly racist and very slanted), so I was able to flesh the good parts of it out. I sincerely thank you for the feedback; I was a little concerned about whether I was giving everything the right amount of weight, and I was unsure how well I presented the more technical linguistic material, so it's good to hear I seem to be doing both well. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 21:36, 28 February 2013 (UTC) I think you have been tying everything together fantastically well. This type of encyclopedic article that ties it all together is well overdue! If you think it would help, I'll do a search on academic reviews of Curtiss' dissertation--and if I'm recalling correct, subsequent publication as a book--and get back to you with the results.--I am One of Many (talk) 23:28, 3 March 2013 (UTC) I think it would help a lot; I've been over much of Curtiss' dissertation, but another set of eyes would almost certainly find something I missed. I have one academic review from Susan Goldin-Meadow (whose voluminous works I've started reading through when I'm not either researching Genie or reading Zhuangzi and Gongsun Longzi), more would be really helpful if you can find any. And by the way, completely by chance TLC was running the episode on David Reimer this afternoon, so I was able to refresh my memory of that. If I ever do finish my work on Genie and the people around her (I'm perfectly content to take as long as is necessary), I'll start some work on that as well; looks like that article has more than Genie's when I first started working on it, but I'm sure that'll turn into a huge project of its own. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:45, 4 March 2013 (UTC) Disambiguation link notification for March 2 Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited Genie (feral child), you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page National Geographic (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject. It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 18:34, 2 March 2013 (UTC) Topic Ban appeal Hi Blade, please note that I would like to appeal the topic ban: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_POVbrigand --POVbrigand (talk) 11:39, 4 March 2013 (UTC) Sandstein explained to me that I should have discussed my appeal with you first User_talk:Sandstein#My_ban_appeal. I wasn't aware of that. --POVbrigand (talk) 12:11, 5 March 2013 (UTC) Hahc21 Hello, do you happen to have Hahc21's email address. I really need to talk to him regarding WP:GA as he has left unexpectedly. If you do, it would be great to email me it through my talk page toolbox.--Dom497 (talk) 23:53, 18 March 2013 (UTC) You Rock! Hello, my friend. You're doing astonishingly good and important work. Thank you. This edit summary troubles me. While the work you're doing is astonishingly good and important (which I may have already mentioned,) you are more so. So, speaking as a guy nearly twice your age who has grown fond of you: please put yourself first. There is no deadline on this article. Perhaps the summary is the product of momentary revulsion at a single edit, which has no additional significance. If so, I'm taking the proverbial mole hill and doing with it what hysterics proverbially do with such a proverbial hill. But I figure that's a better approach than ignoring a slight tingle in my spider sense. If appropriate, please consider a short breather. If I've misinterpreted, please excuse my presumption. Best, David in DC (talk) 10:45, 19 March 2013 (UTC) Ah, yes; it was slight hyperbole, but only slight. I think I have a somewhat different way of experiencing emotions, which seems to be fairly common among my kind, and instead of breaking me down it's driven me (those who know me personally might say to madness, but I'm pretty sure I got there years ago). If I really started to lose it, I'd know enough to take a break, but I haven't yet. There are definitely a couple sections of the article which are hard to stomach, that being one of them, and the information in that edit especially was not fun to read or write about. I do appreciate your concern; if there was more of this on Wikipedia I think it would be a much nicer place all around. And before I go, thank you very much for your work; it hasn't gone unnoticed, and it's been very helpful. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:49, 19 March 2013 (UTC) Your work on Genie ... is incredible. I just came across it, and I don't ever remember being so utterly absorbed in an article. A sad, difficult and enlightening topic. You've done wonders. ~ Riana ⁂ 20:05, 19 March 2013 (UTC) I don't know how you found it, but I myself originally ended up at the article completely by accident; if I remember correctly, I think I was looking for an instance where it actually made sense to leave out someone's real name. The topic drew me in the same way, although what really did it for me was the NOVA documentary; aside from the very tragic nature of the subject, Genie remains the only person whose face and body language I can read. Everyone who knew her said she had/has some way of drawing emotions out of people, and the video of her certainly got me too—only very rarely does anything do that to me. I can only imagine what it'd be like to actually get to meet with her in person. Thank you very much for your feedback; I'm more a historian than a linguist, so this has been one hell of a ride putting it together. One of these days I might just finish it, but in the meantime I'm perfectly happy to ride it out as long as necessary. I frequently find myself wishing I could do more for her than simply writing about her on Wikipedia, but I can't, so I figure I might as well do what I can do as best as possible. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:16, 19 March 2013 (UTC) Maurice-7, yet again He has again violated his topic ban [17]. Athenean (talk) 15:41, 27 March 2013 (UTC) Took me a minute to see what the violation was, but yeah that was an obvious one. Will deal with it now. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:50, 27 March 2013 (UTC) Advice Polack (again) You may recall restoring this page in December -- check the log, you'll remember. Now it's been deleted again (again under G10, which it certainly is not), right in the middle of AfD and, more importantly, when a discussion among 4 or 5 editors on the article's talk had begun literally an hour earlier, re the reliability of sources (at least one editor familiar with Polish culture and media countering VolunteerMarek's insistence that all the sources are unreliable.) Can you restore again? There seems to be a complete misunderstanding of BLP here. Don't be confused by VolunteerMarek's version, which is stripped down under his belief that all the sources are unreliable -- see, if it helps, this earlier version [18] -- of course the whole edit history would be restored. Sorry to trouble you -- again! EEng (talk) 20:29, 29 March 2013 (UTC) PS Great work on Genie -- you're like the Energizer Bunny. "at least one editor familiar with Polish culture and media countering VolunteerMarek's insistence that all the sources are unreliable" - this isn't really true AFAICT, and neither is belief that all the sources are unreliable. TVN is a reliable source. All other ones are indeed unreliable though. Unfortunately the TVN source was/is a very very very minor part of the article.Volunteer Marek 20:36, 29 March 2013 (UTC) User:Piotrus apparently brought Polish_culture_during_World_War_II to FA so his bona fides are obvious. His evaluation was Reliable sources: NIE, TVN24, Fakt (if you count tabloits as reliable), perhaps EGI and naTemat, through would have to look at them further. Only TVN24 is a mainstream newspaper outlet here. I was looking forward to you and he discussing this. Anyway, the article cannot possibly be characterized as G10. Pages that disparage, threaten, intimidate or harass their subject or some other entity, and serve no other purpose.. It's absurd. Now stop shopping for forums. After the article is restored give reasons for your belief that various sources are unreliable. EEng (talk) 20:52, 29 March 2013 (UTC) Did you just accuse me of forum shopping, AFTER you've been busy posting to everyone and their dog's talk page about this [19]? Really? Replying to YOUR attempts at forum shopping is not forum shopping.Volunteer Marek 20:58, 29 March 2013 (UTC) "Inviting everyone and their dog" isn't forum shopping (or even canvassing, which I think is what you might have meant) -- it's getting as many points of view as possible. I invited everyone who posted to the AfD (without regard to whether they had supported delete or supported keep) plus recent editors of the article, plus its original creator, to participate at Talk:Advice Polack on the question of source reliability. Now that it's been, improperly, deleted as G10 I'm asking that it be restored so the discussion, at the original Talk forum, can continue. You, on the other hand, are advocating that the deletion stand (otherwise what are you doing here?) -- in other words, if you can keep it deleted, you won't have to face actual discussion in the original forum, the Talk page. To summarize, I'm here to ask that the original discussion, now aborted, can continue, while you're here to ask that the original discussion remain aborted, since that leads to the outcome you want -- deletion. That's what you might call preemptive forum shopping. Anyway, the only question before us here is whether the article qualified as G10. Blade? (I don't know what the last version looked like, but if there's any question be sure to examine the version I linked earlier, which certainly isn't G10) EEng (talk) 21:49, 29 March 2013 (UTC) Objecting to your false characterization of discussion, that's what I'm doing here. Look, I agree that the page shouldn't have been speedy deleted this time around, since the AfD was ongoing. I am not here to "ask" anything - where did I "ask" for anything? You're the one doing all the asking. You're attributing things to me which just aren't true. And you've accused me of forum shopping without any basis or reason.Volunteer Marek 21:56, 29 March 2013 (UTC) In all our interactions it's the same thing -- you reply to things people didn't say. What I said was You, on the other hand, are advocating that the deletion stand (otherwise what are you doing here?) Since you didn't say you support restoration, instead went to the trouble of claiming I misrepresented you, one draws the obvious conclusion that you were opposing what I was requesting -- restoration. Why didn't you fucking just say you support restoration -- or just say nothing here, and let restoration happen -- then pick up any issues between us back on the article Talk where they belong. Why stir up all this dust? So, Blade, since my friend here and I seem to be in violent agreement, can you confirm no G10, and then restore? (I just noticed this [20], which implies some hot evidence compelling deletion was on the article's Talk, so better be sure to check that -- though I still think we're surrounded by people who don't understand G10. When I contacted you I thought this would be a straightforward restoral -- sorry. Um, this seems to be the "evidence' referred to [21] -- what BS.) EEng (talk) 22:17, 29 March 2013 (UTC) Indeed I will, and if you need me to do anything else let me know. Seems pretty straightforward to me. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:11, 29 March 2013 (UTC) I have declined a further G10 nomination, and reopened the AfD which was closed after Merovingian's G10 deletion. JohnCD (talk) 23:40, 29 March 2013 (UTC) Rev-del (or oversight, or whatever) This article is the gift that keeps on giving. I forget which is the right process -- revdel or oversight -- but the very person who was requesting G10 posted the real-life name of the person involved, plus a link to his work webpage. Can you swiftly revdel/oversight the material added here [22]? EEng (talk) 23:41, 29 March 2013 (UTC) Sigh, that's not a "link to his work webpage" that's a link to one of these crappy sources from the article. Seriously, if you have no idea of what you're talking about, why get into an argument? Volunteer Marek 23:44, 29 March 2013 (UTC) The post providing the link said it was to the individual's work webpage. I took him at his word. EEng (talk) 04:03, 30 March 2013 (UTC) (edit conflict) And I got to say, it's... "ironic", that here you're attacking the editor who G10 nommed it [23] for "linking to his photo", yet this is one of the very sources you're trying to CRAM into this article. BLP, BLP and one more time, BLP.Volunteer Marek 23:49, 29 March 2013 (UTC) Rev-deleted. Posting this name and picture are absolutely contrary to WP:BLP. JohnCD (talk) 23:47, 29 March 2013 (UTC) Dude. This is one of the "sources" that EEng and others are trying to add to this article! If putting it on the talk page (in order to illustrate BLP problems) is contrary to BLP, then sure as hell putting it IN THE ARTICLE is contrary to BLP.Volunteer Marek 23:49, 29 March 2013 (UTC) You're mixed up as (it can now be said with confidence) usual. I haven't added any sources to the article, merely copyedited it, and asked for discussion on which sources are reliable. I don't know what's in them in detail, so I'm not surprised to hear one of them is the same as the one being revdel-ed here. You're turning the fact that I didn't realize that two sources are the same into some kind of demonstration of hypocrisy. Please discuss this on the article's Talk and leave poor Blade be. EEng (talk) 00:21, 30 March 2013 (UTC) Nope, not mixed up [24]. You were (re) adding this source to the article, but somehow have a problem with a link to it being placed on the talk page. I don't know if it's hypocrisy, but it's something.Volunteer Marek 00:50, 30 March 2013 (UTC) It is in the nature of mixed-up people to not realize it -- see Dunning–Kruger effect. Any experienced editor looking at the link you provided understands what I was doing. Please take this to the article's Talk, where I've set up a subsection for each source so as to group together various editors' opinions on that source. Blade, I'm sorry I got you involved -- thought it would be a straightforward restore. EEng (talk) 03:58, 30 March 2013 (UTC) It is in the nature of mixed-up people to not realize it -- see Dunning–Kruger effect - is this like when you compared me to Hitler and then accused ME of violating Godwin's Law? You might want to pause once in awhile and reflect on whether the advice you're so ready to dish out to others just might not apply to yourself.Volunteer Marek 04:14, 30 March 2013 (UTC) Can't I even get up to go to the bathroom without a renewal of this mischegas? No, what I said (long ago) was that Hitler was a striking illustration of how dangerous autodidacts can be; then I said "but I rush to mention, as well, Godwin's Law" (or something like that); that is, by pointing self-consciously to the tendency for nasty comparisons to be invoked, I was explicitly disavowing the idea that I might be making such a comparison in this case (beyond the point about autodidacts). I've already explained this to you at least once and you still don't get it? As for "accusing [you] of violating Godwin's Law" -- Crikey, where to begin? Godwin's "Law" states that all discussions sooner or later degenerate into Nazi namecalling. Accusing you of "violating Godwin's Law" would mean,... um,... saying something to you along the lines of, "Hey, you're violating the rule that says sooner or later you have to call someone a Nazi! Get with the program, will you? You can start by calling me Hermann Goering!" What an idiotic concept. As to your suggestion that I unknowingly suffer from Dunning-Kruger: I take substantial reassurance from the low incidence of multiple editors simultaneously asking me to please put a sock in it. That mode of reassurance not being available to you, I assume you've found some interpretation of events which salves your ego during those hard times. Now for the nth time, I don't enjoy watching you make a fool of yourself -- well, maybe just a bit, but still it's not a very productive use of my time -- so will you please stop embarrassing yourself in these hopeless attempts to one-up me, and get over to Talk:Advice Polack with some substantive comments on source reliability. Blade, always good to see you. Your work on Genie has been FA-ntastic. EEng (talk) 04:57, 30 March 2013 (UTC) Now I remember why I ended the conversation with you last time. Given enough time your comments degenerate into incomprehensible babble. So once again, I'm done talking to you.Volunteer Marek 05:20, 30 March 2013 (UTC) I will have a good, thorough look at this tomorrow when I get home from work; should be about 12 hours from now. I'm not ignoring this, I just wasn't in the right frame of mind to deal with it tonight (nothing really to do with Wikipedia). Oh, and if you want incomprehensible babble, go to the article EEng references above; I rather think EEng is more comprehensible than Genie or Chelsea. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 05:27, 30 March 2013 (UTC) Blade, I hope you didn't think there was any implied rebuke on my part for "ignoring this." But if you are so foolhardy as to venture in... remember, this is my copyedited version of the page [25] -- the current one is a stub which Marek keeps substituting. I want to be clear that I know nothing of the sources -- all I did was copyedit -- but it was the venerable John Vandenberg that largely built the article, and naturally I trust him. EEng (talk) 12:37, 30 March 2013 (UTC) No, nothing of the sort taken. All right, I've looked at everything here and I'm really not seeing anything requiring admin tools. There's no BLP violation that I'm picking up on, and I'm not familiar enough with the subject to say anything about weight and sources. John Vandenberg seems like the person who Volunteer Marek should be after, so if you have a problem go there; EEng pretty much looks like just a copyeditor on the article. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:06, 30 March 2013 (UTC) Belated thanks. EEng (talk) 03:11, 2 April 2013 (UTC) Account creation Just so you know, the stewards just locked the AFD account you created... they didn't think it was funny. --Rschen7754 03:40, 1 April 2013 (UTC) The thing is that there were two other accounts created minutes before this one that were locally blocked. It appeared to me that this was just another vandal account. Just like happens every day, with a similar name pattern. We don't check log of creation before locking. It is now unlocked anyway. Regards.—Teles «Talk to me˱M @ C S˲» 04:18, 1 April 2013 (UTC) Any big plans for this one?  7  05:26, 1 April 2013 (UTC) That's the one that was just unlocked. Ryan Vesey 05:32, 1 April 2013 (UTC) No, no worries; I could have been a little more descriptive in my account creation. Wasn't thinking of doing anything specific, just trying to unwind a little bit. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 13:10, 1 April 2013 (UTC) Edits Dude. What part of "April Fools" do you not understand? Harmless pranking is a tradition around here on April 1. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:33, 1 April 2013 (UTC) Wow, my eyesight really is shot. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:37, 1 April 2013 (UTC) Rumiton's topic ban Hello. I have appealed against your topic banning of me from Prem Rawat articles at Arbitration Enforcement. Rumiton (talk) 05:37, 5 April 2013 (UTC) Invitation to join the Darius Dhlomo Drive Hello. You are invited to join Darius Dhlomo Drive, a project which aims to cleanup and resolve one of the oldest copyright investigations on the site. We hope that you will join and help to clean what's left of the copyright violations. You are getting this invitation because you have helped out previously, and I am inviting you back to hopefully wrap this up. Wizardman 01:39, 14 April 2013 (UTC) Hello, The Blade of the Northern Lights. Please check your email; you've got mail! It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.— Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:10, 24 April 2013 (UTC) Co-nominating my RfA While I was intending to wait for you, others have already made the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Piotrus 2 live. In either case, thank you for your offer. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:02, 25 April 2013 (UTC) No problem; sorry I totally spaced last night. I'll swing by when I'm back from work in a couple hours. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 12:52, 25 April 2013 (UTC) Thank you for going through with the conomination. While this relates to the edit by the other nominator, since you endorsed it as a co-nom, please note that at least one other editor has major issues with it. As my nom is already spiraling down in a flame of death, I do not wish to drag others with me. I will not hold it against you if you decide to withdraw your conomination to avoid being involved in any dramu. Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:31, 25 April 2013 (UTC) I think the reality of the situation lies in between Malik's and Nick-D's statement; it doesn't affect my conom statement. I can see it's been rough for you, but I really hope you don't get discouraged. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:37, 25 April 2013 (UTC) What doesn't kill me... Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:49, 25 April 2013 (UTC) You know, I am actually finding a lot of the comments quite constructive. Always look on the bright side, huh? What's your take on the discussion? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:17, 30 April 2013 (UTC) Apart from a few isolated comments it seems to be mostly devoid of invective, which is good. You're definitely getting a lot of feedback, and most of it seems to be the constructive type; that's about all one can ask for at a controversial RfA. It's obvious you've picked up on some good tips, and I'm glad it wasn't accompanied with the nastiness that so frequently plagues such discussions. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:26, 30 April 2013 (UTC) You mean it tends to get worse? :D Btw, are co-nominators not allowed/expected to vote? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:18, 30 April 2013 (UTC) No, that was just a mistake on my part; let me resolve that now. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:28, 30 April 2013 (UTC) Maurice07 redux Hi Blade. For background please see the section on your talk: Maurice07 evading AE topic ban on Greek-related topics through IP where Maurice was evading his Greek topics ban through 188.3.111.74 (talk · contribs). Fast forward to today: Maurice07 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) goes to Anthony Appleyard to request a move back of Soumela Monastery, clearly a Greek topic, an obvious breach of his ban on Greek topics and specifically on onomatology. Also see his edit here about the name of the Greek monastery at RM: [26] But this is only the tip of the iceberg. Guess who botched the move of the monastery article in the first place. You guessed it: 188.3.37.83 (talk · contribs). A clear sock of IP188.3.111.74 from above and for which Maurice got a one-month block. Just in case anyone had any doubts, at talk Soumela monastery IP 188.3.37.83 comments about the move supplying two of the four sources Maurice07 gave to Anthony. I will not mention his insults and removing of referenced information from Armenian topics and calling referenced edits from there "vandalic". Please see also DQ's talk for additional problems under AA2. Thank you for your time. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 00:09, 30 April 2013 (UTC) I'll have a look. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC) Thank you Blade. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 02:11, 30 April 2013 (UTC) I'm going to let DeltaQuad make the ultimate determination here, as he's the CU and can run a check if he so desires, but that sure looks like Maurice07 to me. I'll tell him as much. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:44, 30 April 2013 (UTC) Thank you Blade. But apart from the socking, isn't his involvement in the move request for the Greek monastery a violation of his editing ban on Greek-Turkish relations, per this decision? Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 02:54, 30 April 2013 (UTC) This is an interesting gray area... its connection to Greek-Turkish relations is historical more than anything else, so it's a bit tenuous. I personally think yes, it is, but I'd like a 3rd opinion on that. I recently had a rough time at AE for a similarly hazy case, and although it worked out in my favor it's made me a little wary. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:59, 30 April 2013 (UTC) If you need a third opinion, there is no problem. Thank you again Blade for taking the time. All the best. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 03:04, 30 April 2013 (UTC) Hi Blade, how about filing an AE request to let other admins weigh in on the matter? Please advise. Thanks, Athenean (talk) 05:58, 30 April 2013 (UTC) I'm sick of you Dr.K's and Athenean's personal attacks against me. I strongly reject this baseless and unsubstantiated claims. To see this, do not need to be a scholar,enough to look at his contributions. [27] So far, I have not done any editing on Sumela Monastery.[28]. I know, I'm greek topic banned and have explained it talk page of Anthony Appleyard [29]. If you pay attention, I sent a request to talk page of administrator. Here, there is not a violation of the ban! In addition,it does not change the fact that user Athenan's illegal and destructive edit.[30] [31]. Two greek user can not be neutral in AA2 to me. I trust admins Blade and DeltaQuad about about it. -- Maurice (talk) 09:28, 30 April 2013 (UTC) Blade, this user is topic-banned from Greek-Turkish relations broadly interpreted. This wording is already written on his talkpage by DQ. Look at the fight and the personal attacks he is bringing forward for a clearly Turkish-Greek-related onomatological dispute. He got banned at AE from Greek onomatological disputes specifically because it was demonstrated there that he is hardwired trying to advance the Turkish version of names even when not warranted by COMMONNAME. He wreaked onomatological havoc on Xanthi, Thesaloniki, Imia/Kardak and other articles, by himself and through his sockpuppets, and now he is doing the same with Soumela Monastery. Look at his vehement effort and personal attacks for a bunch of diacritics. If the expression broadly construed, in his Greek-Turkish relations ban, is to mean anything he should be blocked for violating it on the monastery issue. As we speak and despite acknowledging that he is topic banned from this issue he is raising a royal crapstorm on the talkpage of Soumela while his sock IPs are sitting in the gallery cheering. He feels empowered because he hasn't been blocked yet and he is making a mockery of his AE sanctions. I didn't want to pressure you yesterday given your choice not to act on it but I had to intervene now that Maurice07 feels empowered enough for personal attacks and is not stopping his involvement with the Soumela onomatological dispute despite acknowledging that he is banned from it: I know, I'm greek topic banned and have explained it talk page of Anthony Appleyard [4]. If you pay attention, I sent a request to talk page of administrator.. He has to be made to understand that if he is topic banned as he acknowledges he is not supposed to get involved with it. Broadly interpreted is just the icing on the cake just in case anyone had any qualms about blocking. Thank you for your consideration. Best regards. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 13:27, 30 April 2013 (UTC) Convincing enough for me; maybe it's the coffee I had this morning, but this looks very clear-cut to me. Accordingly dealt with. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:31, 30 April 2013 (UTC) Thank you very much Blade. I guess it was the coffee for me too, especially after I saw the renewed attacks in the morning. :) It just brought it together for me. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 16:43, 30 April 2013 (UTC) Hi Blade. He is evading his block !voting on Soumela with an IP geolocating to the same building as the other two. He also uses the same bad grammar as the master. The IPsock has also been blocked before for removing names from Greek and Armenian topics. He removed the Greek name of Fethiye today as he did on 11 April calling it "greekification". Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 14:41, 1 May 2013 (UTC) Looks like him to me all right; block extended. If DeltaQuad wants to do something else, he can go ahead. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 21:21, 1 May 2013 (UTC) Thank you Blade. I was thinking of opening a formal SPI but you gave me a bit more time to organise the evidence. I'll inform DQ just in case he can spare me the effort of a formal investigation. Best regards and thanks again. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:51, 1 May 2013 (UTC) Δρ.Κ. I suggest you do open an SPI report, just so that this is recorded in a central location and there is an easy to get to record of the IPs later if they are needed. Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:40, 2 May 2013 (UTC) Thank you very much Callanecc for your kind advice. You know, I agree completely with you. There is no better place than a central SPI location. Except for one thing. I have had it up to here with writing about this guy. I am just tired of this case. I need time to recover from that. :) Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 01:47, 2 May 2013 (UTC) Done. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Maurice07. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 02:40, 3 May 2013 (UTC) WP:AE#Maurice07 Please see this report at AE, which asks for sanctions of Maurice07 under ARBAA2. Since you've recently issued a one-month AE block of Maurice07, it is unclear that anything more needs to be done. So far he is topic-banned from Greek-Turkish relations under ARBMAC but is not restricted yet under ARBAA2. Unless you want to issue more sanctions, you might consider closing the AE report and logging your recent block in whichever case you think appropriate. Otherwise a different admin might close it just to keep the board tidy but may not be aware of your entire rationale. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 03:23, 1 May 2013 (UTC) Thanks for letting me know about that; I'll shut it down and log it accordingly. When I blocked I wasn't sure whether DeltaQuad was going to do something else, but it doesn't look that way, so I'll clean everything up. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:28, 1 May 2013 (UTC) End of topic ban request It is nearly six months since you topic banned me. Rather than having to go through the convoluted process of trying to find an impartial audience to end my topic ban, I'm asking you to do it. Thanks. MOMENTO 08:20, 1 May 2013 (UTC) DJ Hoppa As the deleter of DJ Hoppa, could you restore it to User:Launchballer/DJ Hoppa? Seven links to it (to my mind) says it's notable, and I'd like something to work from. Thank you.--Launchballer 13:12, 3 May 2013 (UTC) Thanks, and have some pierogi! Pierogi Award Thanks for your support of my RfA. It didn't succeed this time, but that's no reason not to have some nice pierogi. Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:26, 3 May 2013 (UTC) Page move collateral damage Not as fearsome as the title suggests. Where I've been porting userspace drafts into mainspace, there are redirects everywhere. Please delete the following redirects: User:Launchballer/Alvin Risk User:Launchballer/DJ Hoppa Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Alvin Risk User:Launchballer/Teen Beat (song) User:Launchballer/Give It Up User talk:Launchballer/Give It Up Thank you.--Launchballer 21:25, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I have mentioned you at ArbCom

in the evidence section of an ArbCom case. I am sending you this notice solely as a courtesy. -- [ UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ] # _ 00:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Fallout: Equestria

Someone's recreated the article in the past week or so. As you were the one to delete the article when it was at AFD last year (which I did not discover until "2nd nomination" appeared in the Twinkle dialog), could you examine the current article to see if it fits under the CSD#G4 criteria so we don't have to go through a Brony-infused AFD again?—Ryulong (琉竜) 07:12, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you ...

... for clearing out that summary. Would you mind getting the other inappropriate remark about that editor when you get a chance?  davidiad { t } 04:54, 9 June 2013 (UTC) ... and thanks again.  davidiad { t } 22:52, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Your article submission Ngaik

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Hi

Could you please take a look at Ip 87.232.1.48 latest edits after being unblocked. We had a long edit dispute before his 3 months block and now I have a feeling the IP is kind of Wikihounding me by following me around on Wikipedia. Doing edits on Jodi Arias film article Jodi Arias: Dirty Little Secret and the AfD of that article and also on Miss World Sweden reverting my edit and on Yohios talk page. All articles that I have edit recently, and all of those edits from the IP has been made today. I am assuming good faith but I feel it is better for both of us to move on but for that to happen the IP can not follow my edits and edit the exact same articles so obvious. if you got the time please check it out. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 02:42, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time. I just want to be left alone from the IP and be productive. Thank you again!--BabbaQ (talk) 02:51, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

No problem, was pretty straightforward hounding to me. Let me know if it keeps going and I'll handle it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:52, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

If he tries anymore hounding or rude tactics I will report them to you instantly. Thank you.--BabbaQ (talk) 03:04, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

If you could take a look at user EricaL2003 ' on Paris Hilton, I have tried to be very nice and reasonable with the user for a long time and the user continues to do massive changes to the article. The changes often appears to be of "gossip magazine" tone. I have warned the user that it might get blocked once again if it change its way to edit but no change in sight. Regards, --BabbaQ (talk) 19:31, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

The IP still doesnt get your point about hounding. Continued hounding unfortunatly [32] today. All I am asking for is to be left alone for a while from the IP instead it seems the IP is more interested in wanting a reaction from me then actually edit on Wikipedia. All of the IPs latest edits has been reverted by different users. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 16:35, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you again. Let's hope that I will not have to come back to you with new developments. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 11:09, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of DJ Hoppa for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article DJ Hoppa is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Speedy deletion nomination of DJ Hoppa

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NYC Wiki-Picnic: Saturday June 22

	Great American Wiknic NYC at Prospect Park
	You are invited to the Great American Wiknic NYC in Brooklyn's green and lovely Prospect Park, on this Saturday June 22! We would love to see you there, so sign up and bring something fun for the potluck :) -- User:Pharos (talk)

Warning: Potential neutron article

This is a warning that Genie_(feral_child) is approaching the size 300,000 bytes, at which point (according to some cosmologists) its gravitation may cause it to collapse on itself, leaving it a smoldering superdense wikiremnant. Editors working on the article when that happens may be unable to escape its event horizon. You have been warned!

Current article size: 128,841 bytes.

EEng (talk) 00:09, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Heh. I've been cutting out some of the unnecessary bytes of text the last few days, and if I can figure out how to better cite books in footnotes that'd take out about 15K at least. I'm also going to rework the lead a little bit more so people who only want the basic idea can get it. However, it's still not as large as the United Kingdom article, so it's not too huge just yet. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:14, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

...And it would seem I've figured it out. Funny, I did the same thing a couple weeks ago and it didn't work at all, but glad it does now. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:33, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

I should also mention that once you get to zz [33], adding just one more use of that same cite could create a rift in the time-space-citation continuum, the consequences of which are predicted by Einstein's Theory of Wikitivity. EEng (talk) 03:33, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism report

Hello there. I'm not sure if you remember me, you helped me out last year by blocking an IP user due to persistent vandalism? Well, 69.247.190.207 (talk) has been disruptively editing Wikipedia basically since their last block expired in September 2012. They have received countless warnings and explanations from me and other users on their editing and yet they continue to do it. Reverting their vandalism has become very tedious and it is annoying how the warnings posted on their talk page do nothing. I was wondering if you could please block them? If you are unable to do so for whatever the reason may be, could you please tell me where else I can report this? Thank you very much. Regards, Creativity97 15:02, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

adminship

Hi Blade. As a former contributor to this, you may wish to take a look at this. If you do, please read it carefully in order not to miss the explicit objective. Comments on its talk page. Cheers, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:06, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

An interesting proposal, and I'll certainly look it over some later today. Hopefully I'll have something useful to say about it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:15, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Collapsed section at WP:NFCR

Hi Blade. I have concerns about your collapsing several nominations at WP:NFCR. First, the image File:Theophilus C Abbot.jpg does appear to be PD, and should be re-templated as such. Second, all the images in the collapsed section have templates on their file description pages that need to be removed if these nominations are being withdrawn. And third, the page is maintained by a bot. If the sections are not closed using the templates provided, the bot will never move them to the archive. Regards, -- Diannaa (talk) 18:34, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

I did that at the behest of Sfan00 IMG, I'm not familiar with the NFCR procedures. I'm not sure what the best way to fix that is, I'll look at the instructions and see what I'm supposed to do; if you know what you're doing, feel free to correct it if I haven't already. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:26, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Return of Banned user

Greetings. Last year you banned one user (here is the report [34]) for sock puppetry and edit warring. I believe he has returned. The last edits in El Clásico article are the same and the language (including the threat to always come back) are also the same used by this anonymous editor in the subject/headline. I don't know how to proceed. Any help would be welcome. Thanks.--Coquidragon (talk) 12:52, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Looks pretty obvious to me; IP blocked for a while, and if there are further attempts I'll semiprotect the page. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:52, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Having seen the number of various disruptive edits from several users and IPs over the last month I would be inclined to protect it anyway, especially in the light of will every now and then come back here and delete the 11-1-result. Sometimes it might take a month or more, but i will always come back. So you will never really win this, you can never relax. It will go on like this forever. And that satifies me . Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:05, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Probably a good idea; I'll hit it for a few months, if it keeps going after that I'll upgrade it to indef. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:07, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you. Sorry for my part in the edit warring!--Coquidragon (talk) 13:39, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Because you didn't ask for recognition

		The Invisible Barnstar
		For your incredible and extensive contributions to Genie (feral child). I don't think I've ever seen anyone solo an article into such a good state like that. MezzoMezzo (talk) 07:35, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch! It hasn't been quite solo—David in DC, EEng, and I Am One Of Many have all done great copyediting, and Slp1 was hugely helpful in piecing together the Early history section—but it's been one hell of a ride. I've given up trying to figure out when I'll ever be done with it, however long is necessary is just fine with me; it's what happens when you get the right combination of interests. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:19, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

I didn't ask for recognition either, so shouldn't I get an Invisible Barnstar too? EEng (talk) 04:13, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

I rather think you do; anyone willing to slog through my attempts at prose deserves one. Will get you all set in a little bit. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:33, 18 July 2013 (UTC)