Amanda Seales confronts Caitlyn Jenner on being a minority in America
If you can’t take the heat, get out of Katy Perry‘s kitchen.
The “Roar” singer hosted a “Friends and Family: Dinner With Discourse” party Sunday as part of her “World Wide Witness” livestream, and it took an unexpected turn when “Insecure” actress Amanda Seales confronted Caitlyn Jenner about their different experiences growing up in America.
“The reason I am so passionate — and I’m not hostile, I’m passionate — the reason I am so passionate is because I’ve had such a different experience in this country than you,” Seales told Jenner. “Because as a black woman, the government is so much in my life, and it always has been. The government literally said that black men could not even be in the house or else women couldn’t get welfare. That’s a big reason why there’s such a chasm between black women and black men in this generation.”
Jenner, 67, seemed caught off guard by the turn their discussion — which also featured public figures such as comedian Margaret Cho, Van Jones and Sally Kohn — took.
“I just said I believe in this country,” Jenner replied.
Seales, 35, later took to Instagram to clarify the moment.
“I don’t take being in these conversations lightly. As a black woman they will far too often consider your intellect a threat and your passion a problem,” she captioned the clip of their debate. “I hope I inspired others last night to live in your truth no matter who is at the table. Let’s grow not just a discourse of love but a DISCOURSE OF COURAGE. Because that’s what it takes to face and deliver these inconvenient truths.”
Seales also told Page Six that she was happy to participate in such an event.
“I appreciate Katy Perry for bringing together these different personalities and experiences to have an open and honest conversation,” she told us.
Meanwhile, a source told Page Six that despite any tension, Jenner “really enjoyed that dinner experience Sunday night.”