Could you please elaborate way more on the underlying problem to solve? There might be a less-radical solution to this, e.g. tweaking AbuseFilter settings etc. Thanks.

In T304597#7803416, @Aklapper wrote:

Could you please elaborate way more on the underlying problem to solve? There might be a less-radical solution to this, e.g. tweaking AbuseFilter settings etc. Thanks.

There are is a somewhat large number of vandalisms that do not get reverted because they are not spotted. There was a discussion (https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cafenea/Arhiv%C4%83/2021/decembrie#Posibilitatea_de_a_edita_ca_IP_pe_ro.wp), and a more recent one (https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cafenea#Posibilitatea_de_a_edita_ca_IP_pe_ro.wp_(2)). Overall, the most users agree with this change. The reason is that the most IP edits on rowiki seem to be non-constructive, and if they are not, they are not improving very much. If disabling the page editing by anonymous users on rowiki would worsen the wiki, then these changes could be canceled anytime.

In my point this changes is prohibited per the general practice on metawiki: "Remove editing permission from a user group".

The reason is that the most IP edits on rowiki seem to be non-constructive, and if they are not, they are not improving very much.

Is there any data could support this point here?

Tagging AHT,

Can one of you folks involved in the current IP edit trial on ptwiki? share if they are any useful data for rowiki? Would another wiki on the trial be useful?

Note that the on-wiki proposal has been about a permanent ban on IP editing.

The problem, as I see it and have expressed it on the rowiki discussion as well, is that the proposal came too soon, out of a misunderstanding of the reasons for the previous delay. The idea in October was to wait for the second (fawiki) experiment to end and see if the data they gather confirms the positive outcome of the ptwiki experiment. So far, this doesn't seem to be the case (T292781#7798401), but I would still wait out for some conclusions after the experiment has ended.

One interesting question that @Andrei_Stroe raised and maybe the AHT or research teams can help answer is whether the rowiki community resembles more ptwiki or fawiki. I personally don't have a good idea of what metrics to follow.

@Strainu Anti-Harassment Tools may likely release the full report for the fawiki IP Editing restriction study at the end of June 2022. As to whether the rowiki resembles ptwiki or fawiki, I will ping my colleague @jwang for this insight.

Thanks for your patience.

In T304597#7938293, @STei-WMF wrote:

Anti-Harassment Tools may likely release the full report for the fawiki IP Editing restriction study at the end of June 2022. As to whether the rowiki resembles ptwiki or fawiki, I will ping my colleague @jwang for this insight.

@STei-WMF: Any link available, or any news from @jwang? Thanks.

@Aklapper, thanks for your interest. The quantitative part of the internal fawiki report is under product leads's review. I just shared the google doc of the draft through your foundation email. @STei-WMF and @Niharika will update community when the full fawiki report is ready.