1) there is no moral equivalence between the anti-racist protestors in Charlottesville and the killer (and his ilk)
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2) left wing political violence is both real and bad.
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It seems that a large segment of our society thinks you can't hold both views at once. Count me with Noah (and every sane person)
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No, a large segment of our society thinks that when you decide the most important thing to say is, "Yes nazis but ALSO...", it's revealing.
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Yeah but that's neither my view nor (I think) Noah's. Note that both of us have criticized the way the president handled this on Saturday.
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Noted. But reframing this RIGHT NOW as part of a larger issue (political violence) is an ideological strategy connected to "on many sides."
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Timing matters; IMHO this is a time to look hard at the rise of THESE people, THIS movement, not to use it as a door to a broader topic.
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Personally I'm a free speech absolutist and a non-aggression absolutist. Seems odd to be seemingly an extreme position.
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Political violence was greater on the left than the right...at least since the 1960s. What we see now is a resurgence of Right wing violence
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Both equally bad; both a result of conventional/mainstream political support from both Democrats and Republican.
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Some people think their violence is different than other people's violence.
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It also seems not to matter to people who *initiates* the violence and how law enforcement is withheld or released with politics in mind.
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They came in military fatigues. They carried clubs and shields. They wore swastikas. They wanted violence. The were trying to provoke it.
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People need to understand fascist tactics. There’s a history here. Read up. E.g.:https://www.amazon.com/Anatomy-Fascism-Robert-Paxton/dp/1400033918 …
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@NoahCRothman on a left/right discussion board a member called me racist and quit over this-said that Antifa violence justified self-defenseThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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I think you did a good job on CNN this morning.
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Wrong on both counts. If you agree WW2 was a moral war due to Nazis, then attacking Nazi hate groups now is a moral too. No difference
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