Chiaroscuro: An Anthology of Virtue & Vice
By Amy Rivers
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In art, chiaroscuro is a technique that explores the interplay of light and dark through stark contrasts. In the same way, this anthology explores virtue and vice and the interconnectedness between these two ends of the morality spectrum. A virtue taken to excess transf
Amy Rivers
Amy Rivers is an award-winning novelist, as well as the Director of Writing Heights Writers Association. She was named 2021 Indie Author of the Year by the Indie Author Project. Her psychological suspense novels incorporate important social issues with a focus on the complexities of human behavior. Amy was raised in New Mexico and now lives in Colorado with her husband and children.
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Chiaroscuro - Amy Rivers
1
Matins
Megan E. Freeman
the woman with her cigarette
on the front porch
outside to protect her family from the smell
her inauguration of morning
perfuming the cul-de-sac as surely
as the priests perfumed the ancient cathedrals
with their incense and their Latin
hers is a meditation in smoke
worshipping the dawning day
with the devotion of mystics
the cigarette is just an excuse
the guise of courtesy her accomplice
2
The Human Condition Might Be
Lew Forester
two Jamaican women selling
fruits and juices in a muddy,
vacant lot in south Chicago
as traffic grinds by on Cicero Ave.
Wearing flashy jewelry and bright
floral dresses, they stack
clear plastic containers of fresh-cut
pineapple, mango, melons,
blue and red berries on folding tables—
a rainbow set below a bruised
and swollen sky, as if to defy
the surrounding landscape
of litter, crumbling tenements.
Glass dispensers of juices on ice—
mango-cherry, strawberry-kiwi,
guava-grape—await those who thirst
for the exotic, want to quench
something they can’t name.
The women wait, laughing heartily—
themselves in their prime, ripe
with hope that their fruits will entice
before the ice melts, like a spell.
3
Why I Threw My Daughter
Laura Mahal
She was playing in the center of a planting bed, and for a moment, she seemed to shimmer.
Her hand reached toward the bird bath, the bowl bone-dry on top of its concrete pedestal, when I realized what gave her the full-body halo, like a fairy from a distant and long-forgotten land.
I abandoned my shovel and raced for her, clearing the dozen feet between us in two bounds. Her face, confused, swung from birdbath to my hands, which gripped her small body and then threw.
Aiming for a spot of ice plant, away from metal edging, the black protective cap long torn away. Away from roses, from blackberry canes, away from anything that might cut, pierce her . . .
Away from the ground wasps that now electrified me with a thousand sharp currents, wasps that covered my body, piercing me through my gloves and long-sleeved shirt. Stinging me again and again on my thighs, my calves, my face.
She was wailing and I could not go to her, to see if my child was hurt, to see if she had indeed landed on the rusty edging, to see if her shimmer of yellow jackets was gone.
I prayed I would not die as my daughter lay crying, within range of me but outside my scope. I prayed, if I did die, that someone would find her quickly, scoop her into a safe, loving embrace.
Survival instincts drove out thought. I wrenched and twisted birdbath to the earth, trapping wasps under bone-dry concrete ceiling. Ran for garden hose. Spun metal dial mounted on wall. Flicked setting on nozzle to jet.
I blasted hair, ears, eyes, neck. Water hot from resting in hose. Boiling yellow jackets, drowning them as they tumbled downward but not without a fight, stinging me again and again in their forced retreat. If they made a war cry, I could not hear it. I heard only water, from hot hot to ice ice. And screaming. Two pitches that fused. Hers, and mine.
Soaked, wasps waterfalling from my body, I crawled to her, as my daughter crawled to me.
Baby, are you all right?
I asked through swollen, distended lips, reaching with unrecognizable appendages, medical gloves inflated as makeshift balloons, rubbery hands the size of eggplants.
Mommy,
she cried, snot streaming over mouth and onto chin, Mommy, Mommy.
She can speak, I thought as I lay back on the grass, afraid to pull her into a hug, lest any wasps cling to my skin or clothing.
My eyes swelled close, but not before I saw that she no longer shimmered.
4
How to Measure a Heart
Holly Collingwood
The corporate glass door is heavy and cool under my palms. I push against its thickness and step onto the quiet street. The impulse to waltz teases me, but they might be watching from their upstairs window. When the interview ended, both suits smiled, shook my hand, and looked me in the eyes.
They want me. But don’t dance too early. Wait for the official offer.
My left boot clicks against the concrete. The right one lands softly, as it’s more sock than sole. The hems on my dress pants are frayed but tucked deep in the boots for the interview. Hiding desperation is my specialty.
I’m almost to the Mandatory Exercise Station. This MES diagram shows twenty burpees, twenty squats, and twenty calf raises. I throw all my post-interview energy into the first burpee. My chest nearly touches the platform before I leap to my feet and jump-reach.
One. Repeat.
Two. Repeat.
With every reach, my sleeve slips past my elbow and the cardiomometer implanted in my forearm sticks out beyond my sweater, just far enough to see the digital numbers increasing. I peek over my shoulder toward the third-story window. Are they still watching me? Will their hiring decision be based on my MES compliance? Did they notice I took the stairs to their office instead of the elevator? My cardiomometer had blinked an increase of 103 ticks after the stairs, but I know I used those extra beats while my heart crazy-raced through their interview questions.
I finish the burpees and move on to squats. Hands on my hips for balance, I dip low.
One. Repeat.
Two. Repeat.
My glutes and hamstrings burn. I squat again. I need this job. My squat is low, but my credit balance is lower.
My cardiomometer blinks an increase of 178 ticks. I bust out the twenty calf raises while the elderly man waiting in line behind me stacks his groceries in a pile before taking his turn on the platform. He rolls up his sleeve and checks his cardiomometer before he begins.
The next airtram departs in three minutes; if I sprint, I’ll make it. The people in front of me in line are already executing their line-waiting lunges in synchronized form. I join them, and our heads bob an even cadence. Aboard the airtram, an official poster for Vita-Bev promises 200 ticks in every bottle.
The corner is peeling, and a tiny note advertising underground sugar peeks from behind it. I push the poster back into place between shoulder shrugs. No one should buy that sugar. Or consume it.
Years ago, the Health Hierarchy assigned arm circles to airtram passengers but switched to shoulder shrugs after complaints of unintentional whacking, and intentional groping, in the cramped space.
At my stop, I depart the airtram and walk past the Health Hierarchy Hospital. A family exits with an antiseptic rush of air. Their young child is bundled in blankets. Health to you,
I greet them. Did he turn one?
They nod at each other. Just received his cardiomometer. Two trillion ticks.
That’s all?
I bite my lip and suck air through my teeth. I shouldn’t have said that aloud. I have more heartbeats left than this tiny baby.
The curly-haired father’s forehead shows deep creases, and the mother’s eyes are rimmed by deep red.
Sorry,
I mumble.
It’s the diabetes. Runs in his family,
the mother shoves her thumb at the father.
I wish the diabetes serums worked as well as the cancer ones. My daughter’s appointment is in two weeks,
I tell them.
The picture on the electronic billboard above the hospital’s entrance rotates to a close-up of an infant’s face. The slogan flashes under the baby’s pudgy cheeks and long, dark eyelashes: Live Long. Live Healthy.
The implantation. Was it painful?
I ask.
He hasn’t woken yet,
the father whispers. The handle of the paper bag he carries rips, and its contents roll across the concrete.
I squat and help retrieve the items: white sterile bandages wrapped in plastic, antiseptic wipes, and three large bottles of liquid pain medication. Will he need this much?
As if on cue, the baby whimpers, arches his back, and stretches his arms out of the blankets. A fresh red oval spreads across his bandage.
Health to you.
The mother clutches her son tighter and they hurry toward the airtram.
I have two more MES platforms to complete before I reach my building. I take the stairs to the daycare on the second floor. My baby stands at a table banging two blocks together. I call to her. Jubia.
She recognizes my voice, drops to her knees, and speed crawls across the rug. I scoop her up and squeeze tight. She smears my neck with baby slobber while I breathe deeply and refill my heart with Jubia. A long, raw rug burn streaks her cheek. What happened here?
I ask the health provider in the pastel scrubs.
She tipped over doing downward dog today. Landed on her face. Didn’t cry much though.
Yoga already?
Youth Exercise Requirements.
She points to a poster on the wall, clears her throat, and hands me a pink paper. Invoices turn overdue tomorrow.
Hope this doesn’t scar.
I rub her cheeks with my thumb and ignore the reminder of another late bill. I heft Jubia’s bag to my shoulder to carry her up six more flights to our tiny apartment. This is always the biggest gain of my day. Plus 587 ticks because of the nineteen-pound baby and her twelve-pound bag.
A yellow eviction notice sticks to my front door, but I’ve been ignoring it all month. Inside our apartment, I’m unpacking soiled clothes from Jubia’s bag when my COM vibrates with a message. Congratulations, Senova. Your new position at Health Hierarchy Hospice begins in three days. Kartis will supervise.
I swing Jubia to my hip, cue dance music, and spin her in circles. We foxtrot. She squeals. We two-step. She giggles. Plus 134 ticks.
The schedule for Patient #7328 shows: 2:00 Rotate, 4:00 Nutrition, 6:00 Sanitary. Kartis leads the way to the first bed. Remember how to roll one over?
he asks.
Support the neck and head, push from the hips and shoulders.
Right. Do this one yourself. I’ll watch.
I introduce myself to #7328. Health to you. I’m Senova and I’m here to rotate you.
Between saggy skin and sheets, my arm squeezes through. Bracing, my white shoes squeak against the industrial tile. I put my body weight into the push. He rolls. Too easy. Too far. Too close to the edge of his narrow bed.
Kartis catches #7328 at the last moment. Slower next time. Drop a patient to the floor and you’ll be filling out forms for a month.
I didn’t expect him to be so light.
It’s how they are at the end.
I pick up #7328’s arm and check his cardiomometer. 12,381 ticks left. His last day?
Yep. Another will take his place tomorrow.
I straighten the sheets around the patient’s shoulders, smooth his thinning hair, add a blanket, and stare at the wrinkles that surround his eyes like a flowing river. Can he hear us?
No. Don’t bother introducing yourself to the next one. Now, check his ass for bedsores.
Rebetha waits at a table in the far corner of the crowded café.
Sorry we’re late. Long wait at the MES.
I wipe sweat off my forehead and adjust the biting strap of my sports bra.
If I take Broadhealth to Walnut, I don’t pass any MES platforms. ’Course it’s eighteen blocks longer.
She laughs.
Probably equals out.
I shrug, but I can’t believe she would avoid an MES. I only skipped one once, eleven and a half months ago, on the way to the birthing hospital after Jubia kicked so hard my water broke.
Rebetha holds Jubia while I take off my coat and set up the high chair. How’s the new job?
she asks.
Good change. I was tired of entering data all day. And I can almost afford this place now.
Is it sad? The dying and all?
I’m day shift. They usually go at night.
The server arrives with our order. Green 10-Veg Juice for Rebetha. Kale Citrus Blend for me. He also brings a bowl of peeled jicama sticks for Jubia to teethe against.
When he leaves, Rebetha pulls a container from her purse. Inside is a frosted pastry, a rainbow of sprinkles decorating the top. Rebetha grins. It’s Jubia’s birthday donut.
My mouth waters. I swallow hard to fight the temptation. Where’d you get it?
She leans close and whispers, Woman in my building makes them.
But the illegal ingredients? Where does she find them?
I don’t ask. She’d never tell me anyway.
I hate arguing with friends, but this is unacceptable. Jubia can’t eat it.
Why not? Only one chance in life for a first-birthday donut.
Pink goo drips off the edge in delicate icicles. A waft of sugar infiltrates my nose. I lean forward and inhale deeply. Jubia mimics me. Her baby nostrils open wide and she bangs her fists on the high chair’s tray.
Rebetha’s grin is mischievous. See. Your gal’s a smart one. Knows a tasty thing when she smells it. Besides, you’ll never know how many ticks she loses because she doesn’t have her cardiomometer yet.
Rebetha holds Jubia’s arm and runs her finger across the spot where it will be implanted next week. So soft.
She blows a raspberry on the spot and Jubia kicks with joy. She can try a tiny bite. Or three.
No.
My fingernails dig into my thighs.
Watch me.
Rebetha dips her finger into the pink frosting and waggles it in front of Jubia’s face before licking it. Her eyes close with delicious pleasure. She pulls up her sleeve and waits for the total. Look. Only down 48 ticks for that sweet lick.
I glare at her and grind my teeth.
She shrugs. So, I’ll croak a minute sooner. Or I can eat an apple and do double MES workouts today to earn them back.
She checks over her shoulder and whispers, Outside the city, they probably eat like this every day.
Except everyone knows that farmers are the only ones that live outside the city. And they have cardiomometers too. Anyway, I don’t want her to enjoy that crap and start craving it.
I’m about to boil over but trying not to show it.
One minuscule lick, her face will be so adorable. Get your camera ready.
She dips her finger into the frosting again and holds it close to Jubia’s lips.
I smack Rebetha’s hand away. I said NO!
Hauling Jubia out of the high chair, I balance her on my hip, throw eight credits on the table for my drink, and weave around crowded tables.
Brose would have let her,
she yells after me.
Brose. I don’t want to think about Brose. Raising Jubia alone is hard enough without letting myself miss him. Stupid seizures. Stupid empty apartment after his grand mal.
The bright sunshine makes me squint. Kneeling, I buckle Jubia into her jogging stroller. I’ve got plenty to run from.
We run past tempting underground markets.
Past the dance studio. We can merely exercise to earn heartbeats, or we can apply grace,
the instructors repeated every time they adjusted my posture and position.
Past the performance theater that rejected me. Seven times. We know you love dancing, but your precision is inept.
Whatever. Screw them.
Past the data depository I’d then been assigned to. Screw them too. Adrenaline pushes me to outrun Rebetha’s invasion and every unbearable memory of Brose.
The trail is narrow along the river, and I slow to lift the stroller over a bumpy mess of tree roots one wheel at a time. My heart thumps loud in my chest. Plus 2,091. Whew. Worth it.
Jubia’s thumb plugs her mouth and her drowsy head lolls to the side. Mossy green foliage hangs from the trees, and tiny white wildflowers grow in bursts along the path. I wipe sleepy baby drool from Jubia’s chin.
Laughter, not far off, weaves through the thick forest. The high pitch of a toddler and the rusty tones of a grandmother mix with middle-aged voices. Closer.
The voices transform from mirth to worry and a child says, I can do it.
This trail is rough,
an adult argues.
But I’ll be careful,
the child begs.
Yes, go ahead. We need a few moments together,
the elderly voice says.
A group of adults come into view. One man carries a toddler on his shoulders. They walk a tentative pace, looking over their shoulders every few steps.
Health to you,
I offer.
Their silent nods are curt.
A few moments later a child appears, pushing an elderly woman in a wheelchair who points into the trees. There. In the pines. Purple wings.
Oooh, that’s the rarest kind, right, Granny?
Does she have polka-dots on her tummy? Purple wings too? If you spot her, she’s the Queen.
The grandmother winks at me.
Oh Granny, she does. She’s the Pixie Queen!
They’re still on their imaginary search when they hit the rooty section of trail. The wheelchair stops and the child leans forward, shoving hard to force it over the ruts. But only the left wheels move. The right side remains wedged and the chair lurches. Flailing her arms, the grandmother lands on the ground with a grunt.
Granny!
the child cries and falls to the dirt next to her.
I sprint to the pair. Can I help?
The grandmother rolls to her back. Let me catch my breath a minute.
The child’s eyes are wide. Are you okay, Granny?
The grandmother takes another deep breath and rounds her shoulders, feeling for injuries. Of course. That’s the most thrilling thing that’s happened to me in a long time.
She touches her granddaughter’s cheek with her palm. A black elastic sweatband surrounds her wrist, and purposefully, without looking at the screen, she adjusts the band up her forearm to cover her cardiomometer completely.
The child sags. Those roots were bigger than I thought.
I’ll help your grandmother. Don’t worry, I do this at work.
Together, we straighten the wheelchair and set the brake. I put one arm under the grandmother’s shoulders and another under her knees. Once the grandmother is settled, the child adjusts her grandmother’s sweater, and we both brush twigs and pine needles from its fibers.
I probably could’ve caught myself, but I didn’t want to mess up my new polish.
The grandmother holds up her fingers, which are painted neon orange. The polish extends from her tips past the cuticles and all the way to her knobby knuckles. They clearly represent the artistry of the child.
The granddaughter grabs the elder’s hands. They’re still beautiful.
Beautiful,
I agree.
The grandmother winks at me again.
Health to you,
I call after them as they disappear up the trail.
Jubia wiggles on my lap in the waiting room. The Health Hierarchy monitor blinks, 1 of 21 e-forms complete.
Another pops up. I skim it, press my thumb in the signature box, and wait for the next.
They promise you’ll heal quickly,
I whisper in her ear. Jubia twists her fingers into my hair. She yanks hard. I tilt my head backward to relieve the pressure. The plaster ceiling is smooth and seamless.
4 of 21 e-forms complete.
I offer my thumb print again.
Another blinks on the screen. This one’s for your cancer serum,
I tell Jubia, who’s about to cry. She’s agitated in this unfamiliar setting. Kiss, kiss,
I say and smooch her cheek twice to calm her. She puckers like a goldfish to mimic me. I’d do anything for that fishy-face.
Live Long. Live Healthy,
every e-form promises above the signature box.
This one prevents asthma.
She doesn’t care and sucks her thumb harder. No one remembers what asthma was, but we still medicate against it.
Finally, we finish the forms.
They are coming for her. I turn my back to the door and memorize the petite, paper-thin nails of her fingers. Not a single hangnail breaks their perfection. I won’t see them again for forty-eight hours.
A hand squeezes my shoulder. Damn. Not enough time. Jubia’s eyebrows and cheeks are perfect too. I trace the soft flesh of her forearm for the last time.
They take her. My arms are empty.
I’ve got to send the afternoon reports. Connect the 2:00 NutriVita lines,
Kartis says and disappears into his glass office.
When he powers his monitor on, the glare from the screen reflects onto the window behind his desk. I struggle to figure out the columns in reverse as the numbers blink. When I squint, the reflection comes into focus. Clear numbers and their labels shock me. But I can’t read for long; a full room of patients need me.
In the first bed, Patient #21670 has twisty silver hair that spreads out on the pillow like rays of moonlight. I connect the NutriVita-bag to the IV line and mark the monitor.
One. Repeat.
Two. Repeat.
I’m about to connect the line for the third patient when she mumbles, Blanket?
I jump back and gasp. What?
Can I have a blanket?
You can talk?
She strokes the thin sheet. Of course. And I’m cold.
I open the cupboard above her bed and shake out thick blue folds. When the corners of the blanket are tucked in, she reaches down and pulls it up to her chin. Her fingernails. Orange. The polish is chipped and cracked but still brighter than a sunrise. A black sweatband covers her cardiomometer.
I know you. We met in the woods.
I’m Jain.
She presses her hand into mine. Her skin is calloused, and her palms are warmer than I expected.
You were with your granddaughter, right?
Tears fill her lower lids. That sweet one is going to miss me.
I nod. My lips twitch but form no words.
She has the imagination of an inventor, for sure.
Will she visit you?
No one else has visitors, but maybe her family would.
It’s not allowed. We said our goodbyes in the woods. Our last pixie quest.
Visits aren’t allowed?
I’m surprised, but not surprised.
No,
she confirms and curls a finger at me, indicating I should lean close. Can you bring me a chocolate bar?
she whispers.
My jaw drops, but before I can answer, she asks Patient