They're like aliens from another planet. There are over 300 species and counting, from the size of your fingernail to 10 metres across. They live on the ocean's surface, and in its darkest depths. But how intelligent are they, really? How do they use tools? And what's it like to meet one in the wild? Eminent marine biologist and science communicator Helen Scales joins Hannah in the studio.

Also - meet Gretchen Früh-Green, one of the scientists who discovered the Lost City, who some believe could be the origin of all life on Earth.

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