Today we look at two cases that were almost perfect murders.  In one, there was no connection between the victim and murderer, while in the other there was an elaborate plan to cover up the deed.  However both cases would come up short in the same way; when it came to hiding the bodies.Like this format?  Fine many more 10 minute stories on our facebook page.Want to help fund my work by donating with Patreon or Paypal, or buying merchandise? Visit https://www.LordanArts.com today.Thanks Sky News, The Telegraph, Court News UK, The BBC, Standard.co.uk, 9 now, The Guardian, Independent.co.uk, Colorado Sun.com, MesaCounty.US, TooFab.com, Unilad.com, and Rottweiler Investigations for information contributing to the cases we discussed.This is not intended to act as a means of proving or disproving anything related to the investigation or potential charges associated to the investigation.  It is a conversation about the current known facts and theories being discussed.  Please do not contact people you are suspicious of or attempt to harass, threaten or intimidate them in any way. Do not release information that can be used to do the same, or join in attacks being conducted by others.  Everyone directly or indirectly referred to is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.