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Vatta's War #3
Engaging the Enemy
The brilliantly unorthodox Kylara Vatta-black-sheep scion of Vatta Transport Ltd., one of the galaxy's wealthiest merchant houses-is a heroine like no other, blessed with a killer instinct both for business and for battle. Now, in the aftermath of cold-blooded assassinations that have left her parents dead and the Vatta shipping empire shattered, Kylara faces her greatest challenge yet. There is a time for grief and a time for revenge. This is decidedly the latter. Placing her cousin Stella in command of the trading vessel Gary Tobai, Ky embarks aboard the captured pirate ship Fair Kaleen on a twofold to salvage the family business and to punish those responsible for the killings...before they strike again. Since the network providing instantaneous communication between star systems has been sabotaged, news is hard to come by and available information impossible to trust. But as she travels from system to system, with Stella a step behind, Ky pieces together the clues and discovers a conspiracy of terrifying scope, breathtaking audacity, and utter ruthlessness. The only hope the independent systems and merchants have against this powerful enemy is to band together. Unfortunately, because she commands a ship known to belong to a notorious pirate-her own relative Osman Vatta, whom she killed for his part in her parents' deaths-Ky is met with suspicion, if not outright hostility. Rumors swirl about her intent and even her very identity. Soon, even Stella begins to question her cousin's decisions and her authority to make them. Meanwhile, the conspiracy Ky hunts is hunting her in turn, with agents insinuated into every space station, every planetary government, every arm of the military, and every merchant house-including her own. Before she can take the fight to the enemy, Kylara must survive a deadly minefield of deception and betrayal.
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First published January 1, 2006
About the author
Elizabeth Moon
148 books2,519 followersElizabeth Moon was born March 7, 1945, and grew up in McAllen, Texas, graduating from McAllen High School in 1963. She has a B.A. in History from Rice University (1968) and another in Biology from the University of Texas at Austin (1975) with graduate work in Biology at the University of Texas, San Antonio.
She served in the USMC from 1968 to 1971, first at MCB Quantico and then at HQMC. She married Richard Moon, a Rice classmate and Army officer, in 1969; they moved to the small central Texas town where they still live in 1979. They have one son, born in 1983.
She started writing stories and poems as a small child; attempted first book (an illustrated biography of the family dog) at age six. Started writing science fiction in high school, but considered writing merely a sideline. First got serious about writing (as in, submitting things and actually getting money...) in the 1980s. Made first fiction sale at age forty--"Bargains" to Marion Zimmer Bradley's Sword & Sorceress III and "ABCs in Zero G" to Analog. Her first novel, Sheepfarmer's Daughter, sold in 1987 and came out in 1988; it won the Compton Crook Award in 1989. Remnant Population was a Hugo nominee in 1997, and The Speed of Dark was a finalist for the Arthur C. Clarke Award, and won the Nebula in 2004.
She served in the USMC from 1968 to 1971, first at MCB Quantico and then at HQMC. She married Richard Moon, a Rice classmate and Army officer, in 1969; they moved to the small central Texas town where they still live in 1979. They have one son, born in 1983.
She started writing stories and poems as a small child; attempted first book (an illustrated biography of the family dog) at age six. Started writing science fiction in high school, but considered writing merely a sideline. First got serious about writing (as in, submitting things and actually getting money...) in the 1980s. Made first fiction sale at age forty--"Bargains" to Marion Zimmer Bradley's Sword & Sorceress III and "ABCs in Zero G" to Analog. Her first novel, Sheepfarmer's Daughter, sold in 1987 and came out in 1988; it won the Compton Crook Award in 1989. Remnant Population was a Hugo nominee in 1997, and The Speed of Dark was a finalist for the Arthur C. Clarke Award, and won the Nebula in 2004.
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February 2, 2022
While I would like to say I have no complaints about the series, I do, but definitely not for the overall arch of the tale. It's bold as brass space opera, trying to get enough resources and allies to fight a pirate fleet, dealing with others' incompetence, and squeaking by with your own verve.
In other words, this is a tale for a crowd of SF fans looking for that particular fighting flavor. Once more onto the open seas! Oh, wait, I mean, space lanes! :)
As for the small stuff -- and there is small stuff -- I got a little annoyed with the psych analysis and the puppy porn, but not so much that it ruined my enjoyment of the rest.
It's popcorn, after all. Sometimes a few kernels won't have popped.
In other words, this is a tale for a crowd of SF fans looking for that particular fighting flavor. Once more onto the open seas! Oh, wait, I mean, space lanes! :)
As for the small stuff -- and there is small stuff -- I got a little annoyed with the psych analysis and the puppy porn, but not so much that it ruined my enjoyment of the rest.
It's popcorn, after all. Sometimes a few kernels won't have popped.
November 27, 2018
THIS RATING AND REVIEW ARE FOR THE AUDIO EDITION I (TRIED TO) LISTEN(ED) TO ONLY. I WILL MAKE A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT THE BOOK BUT THE RATING IS ABOUT THIS AUDIO VERSION.
Some of you may know that Elizabeth Moon wrote one of my all time favorite series including a trilogy I think of as one novel. So I hate that I've never been able to like her space operas. I mean I've tried and the first in this series was pretty good but I just haven't been able to get involved.
HOWEVER I got the audio version of this book and I've got to say...the reader drove me completely away. I don't understand why publishers or whoever decides these things will contract a mediocre to poor reader to read a book. Do they never listen to their own product???
I mean the trilogy I mentioned above (That I like so well) is The Deed of Paksenarrion. I own them in both print and audio and the reader of those while not as bad as the reader of this book is still not what I'd call "up to it". She is (in my opinion of course) mediocre. She miss pronounces words, reads the Elves in a sort of sing-song way and in one case reads characters in the wrong voice. In other words has someone else say Paks' line and Paks say his line..
I just don't get it.
I mean the reader here seems to think that...the-way-to-sound-dramatic-is-to-pause-between-each-word or two.
So, I couldn't take it. I put it aside. maybe I'll find the print version and give it a try. Till then I've noted the reader of this one down.
Some of you may know that Elizabeth Moon wrote one of my all time favorite series including a trilogy I think of as one novel. So I hate that I've never been able to like her space operas. I mean I've tried and the first in this series was pretty good but I just haven't been able to get involved.
HOWEVER I got the audio version of this book and I've got to say...the reader drove me completely away. I don't understand why publishers or whoever decides these things will contract a mediocre to poor reader to read a book. Do they never listen to their own product???
I mean the trilogy I mentioned above (That I like so well) is The Deed of Paksenarrion. I own them in both print and audio and the reader of those while not as bad as the reader of this book is still not what I'd call "up to it". She is (in my opinion of course) mediocre. She miss pronounces words, reads the Elves in a sort of sing-song way and in one case reads characters in the wrong voice. In other words has someone else say Paks' line and Paks say his line..
I just don't get it.
I mean the reader here seems to think that...the-way-to-sound-dramatic-is-to-pause-between-each-word or two.
So, I couldn't take it. I put it aside. maybe I'll find the print version and give it a try. Till then I've noted the reader of this one down.
December 24, 2017
I want to give this entire series 5 stars even though I probably won’t give any of its individual instalments that rating. Does that make sense? Vatta’s War is just such a fun and compelling space opera with a strong central character, and Elizabeth Moon is a great storyteller. I say this while simultaneously admitting that, even though I really, really enjoyed reading Engaging the Enemy, I don’t think it’s actually all that good of a book.
Yeah, this is going to be one of those reviews. Buckle up. (Spoilers for previous books but not this one.)
Engaging the Enemy opens with Kylara and Stella Vatta plotting their next move. Leaving Stella in command of the Gary Tobai, Ky departs for a system that is more likely to recognize her prize claim to the Fair Kaleen, which she wrested from her pirate uncle in the previous book. What ensues is basically Ky trying to get her prize recognized as legitimate while also forming a governments-funded space navy to fight the organized pirates that appear to be disrupting trade. Meanwhile, she leaves Stella mostly to fend for herself, which Stella doesn’t appreciate. And back on Slotter’s Key, Aunt Grace has to get all wetwork on government-sponsored assassins. It’s pretty cool.
This book’s strengths are similar to the previous books in the series. Moon does make anything easy for our protagonists. There are no convenient outs here, no crowning moments when someone waltzes in with exactly the right plan to save the day. If anything, the running gag in this book is that everything Ky does makes her situation worse—except that she continually manages, against all odds, to survive. I love these books because I love watching Ky struggle and agonize over her decisions, over the burden of command on her young shoulders, and most recently, the loss of her family. Moon sends her and her associates through the wringer, yet Ky still has only one thing in sight: stopping the people who started this mess.
On balance, though, I have to admit that there is little of note about this third book in the series. I mean, Moon basically relies on two things to stymie Ky: communication difficulties (or people not being in the right place at the right time) and other people being obstreperous buffoons. There is very little action here; most of the conflict comes from Ky navigating legal challenges, including dealing with the possibility that someone is going to accuse her crew of stealing a dog.
Also, not a big fan of the conflict between Ky and Stella. Its existence makes total sense, but the way Moon has written it makes it sound so contrived and really doesn’t do justice to Stella. Her attitude towards Ky is totally justified, especially considering the stress that both Vattas are under after the deaths of their family. Yet Moon essentially hands Stella the Idiot Ball to drum up enough tension while trying to get us to doubt whether Ky is even actually Ky.
So, yeah, I can’t pretend that this book is a masterpiece of plotting, conflict, and characterization. But I can’t deny that it still satisfied every space opera bone in my body. I curled up with this over the weekend and just revelled in the atmosphere of this universe. That’s the thing about science fiction: even the pulpy stuff (and, to be clear, Engaging the Enemy is far from pulp) feels so good. The very act of inhabiting a hypothetical future, of imagining space travel and space pirates and space … uh … legal wrangling … is such a fulfilling, stimulating experience. And despite perhaps failing to create a truly compelling story here, Moon still has this fantastic world.
And even though her actions aren’t all that interesting in this book, Ky herself remains a great protagonist. The major theme here is how to deal with having killed someone, with having to kill someone—and what you do when you discover that you liked it. Ky’s brain is basically asking, “What if I’m a bad person?” on repeat, and you can see this weighing heavily with her every decision. There is some great psychological tension here, and I’m not talking about the paternity plot.
There is so much here that Moon could have done better, but in the end … I just don’t care. Totally a fanboy.
My reviews of Vatta’s War:
← Marque and Reprisal | Command Decision →
Yeah, this is going to be one of those reviews. Buckle up. (Spoilers for previous books but not this one.)
Engaging the Enemy opens with Kylara and Stella Vatta plotting their next move. Leaving Stella in command of the Gary Tobai, Ky departs for a system that is more likely to recognize her prize claim to the Fair Kaleen, which she wrested from her pirate uncle in the previous book. What ensues is basically Ky trying to get her prize recognized as legitimate while also forming a governments-funded space navy to fight the organized pirates that appear to be disrupting trade. Meanwhile, she leaves Stella mostly to fend for herself, which Stella doesn’t appreciate. And back on Slotter’s Key, Aunt Grace has to get all wetwork on government-sponsored assassins. It’s pretty cool.
This book’s strengths are similar to the previous books in the series. Moon does make anything easy for our protagonists. There are no convenient outs here, no crowning moments when someone waltzes in with exactly the right plan to save the day. If anything, the running gag in this book is that everything Ky does makes her situation worse—except that she continually manages, against all odds, to survive. I love these books because I love watching Ky struggle and agonize over her decisions, over the burden of command on her young shoulders, and most recently, the loss of her family. Moon sends her and her associates through the wringer, yet Ky still has only one thing in sight: stopping the people who started this mess.
On balance, though, I have to admit that there is little of note about this third book in the series. I mean, Moon basically relies on two things to stymie Ky: communication difficulties (or people not being in the right place at the right time) and other people being obstreperous buffoons. There is very little action here; most of the conflict comes from Ky navigating legal challenges, including dealing with the possibility that someone is going to accuse her crew of stealing a dog.
Also, not a big fan of the conflict between Ky and Stella. Its existence makes total sense, but the way Moon has written it makes it sound so contrived and really doesn’t do justice to Stella. Her attitude towards Ky is totally justified, especially considering the stress that both Vattas are under after the deaths of their family. Yet Moon essentially hands Stella the Idiot Ball to drum up enough tension while trying to get us to doubt whether Ky is even actually Ky.
So, yeah, I can’t pretend that this book is a masterpiece of plotting, conflict, and characterization. But I can’t deny that it still satisfied every space opera bone in my body. I curled up with this over the weekend and just revelled in the atmosphere of this universe. That’s the thing about science fiction: even the pulpy stuff (and, to be clear, Engaging the Enemy is far from pulp) feels so good. The very act of inhabiting a hypothetical future, of imagining space travel and space pirates and space … uh … legal wrangling … is such a fulfilling, stimulating experience. And despite perhaps failing to create a truly compelling story here, Moon still has this fantastic world.
And even though her actions aren’t all that interesting in this book, Ky herself remains a great protagonist. The major theme here is how to deal with having killed someone, with having to kill someone—and what you do when you discover that you liked it. Ky’s brain is basically asking, “What if I’m a bad person?” on repeat, and you can see this weighing heavily with her every decision. There is some great psychological tension here, and I’m not talking about the paternity plot.
There is so much here that Moon could have done better, but in the end … I just don’t care. Totally a fanboy.
My reviews of Vatta’s War:
← Marque and Reprisal | Command Decision →
March 23, 2022
This instalment both takes a breath for Ky and Stella to deal with their emotions and the magnitude of their family’s and their personal losses, and for Ky to begin exhorting various captains to band together with her so they can all fight the pirates menacing various systems.
Ky and Stella come across a Vatta ship run by a sleaze of a captain, who attempts to overthrow and kill everyone on board the Garry Tobigh. Through Ky’s quick thinking and her martial training, she and Stella, regain a ship for the Vattas, and oddly, drive a bit of a wedge between the cousins. Ky wants to create a fighting force, while Stella wants to rebuild the Vatta fortunes.
Meanwhile, Gracie back on Slotter Key must deal with assassination attempts against the remaining Vattas on the planet; she also meets Ky’s former mentor at the Academy, and the two develop a mutual respect.
I could not stop listening to this book once I started. The tension is pretty much nonstop, whether during the space-based conflict, the assassination attempts, or the arguments and frustration building between Ky and Stella. I loved seeing the dangerous side of Gracie, and the reveal of some family secrets. I also liked how Ky and Stella eventually resolved some of their issues with each other; the two, when not arguing, make a strong team, and with Gracie’s attempts to keep the few remaining on-planet Vattas safe, it’s clear that these Vatta women have the tools and the skills to rebuild their finances and business connections.
And the lead pirate with an axe to grind with the Vattas gets named. I can’t wait to get to the next book.
Ky and Stella come across a Vatta ship run by a sleaze of a captain, who attempts to overthrow and kill everyone on board the Garry Tobigh. Through Ky’s quick thinking and her martial training, she and Stella, regain a ship for the Vattas, and oddly, drive a bit of a wedge between the cousins. Ky wants to create a fighting force, while Stella wants to rebuild the Vatta fortunes.
Meanwhile, Gracie back on Slotter Key must deal with assassination attempts against the remaining Vattas on the planet; she also meets Ky’s former mentor at the Academy, and the two develop a mutual respect.
I could not stop listening to this book once I started. The tension is pretty much nonstop, whether during the space-based conflict, the assassination attempts, or the arguments and frustration building between Ky and Stella. I loved seeing the dangerous side of Gracie, and the reveal of some family secrets. I also liked how Ky and Stella eventually resolved some of their issues with each other; the two, when not arguing, make a strong team, and with Gracie’s attempts to keep the few remaining on-planet Vattas safe, it’s clear that these Vatta women have the tools and the skills to rebuild their finances and business connections.
And the lead pirate with an axe to grind with the Vattas gets named. I can’t wait to get to the next book.
April 6, 2018
“Engaging the Enemy (Vatta’s War #3)” continues the military scifi adventure story of Ky Vatta, her friends & family, and her shipmates as Ky and cousin Stella work to rebuild Vatta Enterprises, and to find the enemies who have created interstellar death and destruction.
The amount of detail in the book continues to be amazing, and those details continue to make the world of Vatta feel very real. It was particularly funny as Ky and Raf read through one planet’s written rules for fornication.
“Engaging the Enemy” also continues providing each character with individual personalities. Stella became annoying for awhile, and Furman was certainly not wanting Ky to succeed…even taking her to court claiming Ky wasn’t Ky. That presented quite the surprise!
“Engaging the Enemy” is even longer than either of the first two Vatta books: 15 and 1/2 hours, and still filled with wonderful adventures and personalities, narrated wonderfully by Cynthia Holloway. Highly recommended with a 5* rating.
The amount of detail in the book continues to be amazing, and those details continue to make the world of Vatta feel very real. It was particularly funny as Ky and Raf read through one planet’s written rules for fornication.
“Engaging the Enemy” also continues providing each character with individual personalities. Stella became annoying for awhile, and Furman was certainly not wanting Ky to succeed…even taking her to court claiming Ky wasn’t Ky. That presented quite the surprise!
“Engaging the Enemy” is even longer than either of the first two Vatta books: 15 and 1/2 hours, and still filled with wonderful adventures and personalities, narrated wonderfully by Cynthia Holloway. Highly recommended with a 5* rating.
December 27, 2023
I was in the mood to reread these and so I binged the series. I love it so. I wish all military SF was so fun. Kylara "Ky" Vatta is an excellent character to root for. Part of what I love about the series is that she starts out being rather naïve but grows and changes into a lovely powerhouse. But just because she is powerful, doesn't mean that she doesn't care about the greater good. I also love Ky's cousin Stella and their goofy Aunt Grace, neither who end up being as originally expected. The highlight of this series for me is always the characters, their interactions, and the way the author twists the plot with unexpected, but rational, consequences. I have not reread the sequel series vatta's peace but now I want to. Arrr!
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Ahoy there me mateys! This here be a combined review of the second and third books of the Vatta's War series. While I try to post no spoilers, if ye haven’t read the first book and ye keep reading this log then ye have been forewarned and continue at yer own peril . . .
Well book one could have been a standalone but I am extremely glad it wasn't! The second book quickly brings about a major, surprising change for the main character, Ky Vatta, and her family. It was mind-boggling but brilliant. It certainly upped the ante. I loved the crazy mercenary company and how Ky made deals with them. I loved all the space battles. It even makes trading goods interesting.
Ky continues to be a delight. I love watching her get into impossible situations and use her brain and her gusto to solve problems. These books be action-packed, have no real romance, and be filled with admirable women. I particularly love Grandma Grace. She is one tough cookie.
The only minor quibble was the distrust between Ky and her cousin in book three. It made sense in terms of story telling but it did wear on me a bit. I think that overall this book, while enjoyable, felt more like a placeholder set-up book. However, the ending was very satisfying and I am extremely interested in what adventures Ky will get into next.
I have already made plans to get books four and five in me mitts. Arrr!!!
Side note: Much thanks to me matey, Sarah @ brainfluff, for pointing me in the right direction in terms of the recommended readin' sequence for these books!
Check out me other reviews at https://thecaptainsquartersblog.wordp...
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Ahoy there me mateys! This here be a combined review of the second and third books of the Vatta's War series. While I try to post no spoilers, if ye haven’t read the first book and ye keep reading this log then ye have been forewarned and continue at yer own peril . . .
Well book one could have been a standalone but I am extremely glad it wasn't! The second book quickly brings about a major, surprising change for the main character, Ky Vatta, and her family. It was mind-boggling but brilliant. It certainly upped the ante. I loved the crazy mercenary company and how Ky made deals with them. I loved all the space battles. It even makes trading goods interesting.
Ky continues to be a delight. I love watching her get into impossible situations and use her brain and her gusto to solve problems. These books be action-packed, have no real romance, and be filled with admirable women. I particularly love Grandma Grace. She is one tough cookie.
The only minor quibble was the distrust between Ky and her cousin in book three. It made sense in terms of story telling but it did wear on me a bit. I think that overall this book, while enjoyable, felt more like a placeholder set-up book. However, the ending was very satisfying and I am extremely interested in what adventures Ky will get into next.
I have already made plans to get books four and five in me mitts. Arrr!!!
Side note: Much thanks to me matey, Sarah @ brainfluff, for pointing me in the right direction in terms of the recommended readin' sequence for these books!
Check out me other reviews at https://thecaptainsquartersblog.wordp...
December 8, 2020
Whoops! I got so busy finishing up the books that I forgot to review this one. It's good! There's nothing superb or life changing about it, just an excellent space opera that grabs my interest a bit more with each book, so read them in order. The first stood alone, but had enough unfinished threads that I wanted to read the second, but I put it off. This one also wraps up its main point well enough, but now I'm so invested in the characters & how their situations will play out that I can't stop to read another book. Must go on to book 4!
I still don't care for the narrator much, though. It's just little, irksome things like the way she pronounces "paddock", a word I'm very familiar with since we have horses. I've spoken to people from around the world who use it & all have pronounced it pretty much the same, but Cynthia Holloway almost makes it into 2 words - very irritating & distracting.
I still don't care for the narrator much, though. It's just little, irksome things like the way she pronounces "paddock", a word I'm very familiar with since we have horses. I've spoken to people from around the world who use it & all have pronounced it pretty much the same, but Cynthia Holloway almost makes it into 2 words - very irritating & distracting.
March 15, 2022
4.5*
Great instalment! By now, I am used to Moon’s style of narration, one that focuses on the intricacies of this universe. Also, each 'station’ seems to have, often, very disparate cultural rules and mores, some totally bizarre, and yet fascinating. I never thought bureaucracy would make me this stressed and anxious, nearly more than the battle scenes, but they do here. As for Ky, she grows in her confidence and her role, and I cannot wait to see what she does next.
Great instalment! By now, I am used to Moon’s style of narration, one that focuses on the intricacies of this universe. Also, each 'station’ seems to have, often, very disparate cultural rules and mores, some totally bizarre, and yet fascinating. I never thought bureaucracy would make me this stressed and anxious, nearly more than the battle scenes, but they do here. As for Ky, she grows in her confidence and her role, and I cannot wait to see what she does next.
July 19, 2010
Kylara Vatta has finally made it to Lastaway, safely delivered her original cargo, and is on her way to her next trading port when she suddenly finds herself in charge of much more than the command of Fair Kaleen and her crew. There is little doubt someone or someones are out to get Vatta Transport, Ltd, but now other trading companies are under attack as well. Ky’s novice Captain skills are put to the test again as she tries to avoid trouble and postpone her grief. Corleigh has been hit hard and her childhood home is destroyed. With ansibles still down and communication at a stand still, the only question is: is her family safe or have they become victims of the explosion?
At this point, Ky’s proven she has the ability, not just the potential, to be a great captain. When she’s approached by her cousin Stella, Ky automatically takes command, unafraid for the consequences but more likely: willing and able to deal when the time comes. She’s independent and pragmatic, nothing at all like Stella; the contrast (both physical and personality-wise) between the two makes for an interesting dynamic which Moon does not fail to take advantage of. Although I did feel Stella’s characterization was a bit different from how she acted in Marque and Reprisal.
Stella is, almost from her first appearance here, bitter and resentful of Ky. She devolved very quickly into jealousy and her anger is too apparent not to notice. This, in light of the misunderstood, competent young woman whose current actions and abilities spoke volumes against past indiscretions did wonders for her character. Stella in action was quite different from the second hand descriptions of her. Others had low expectations of her. Her personal restraint and quiet confidence proved otherwise. Even Aunt Gracie thought more highly of her strongest abilities than other family members did of her, family that could not get past her weakest moments.
This woman was not the same Stella present in Engaging the Enemy. In fact, she came across as more emotionally unstable and petulant than anything else. To be fair, she also did a very impressive job at whatever Ky assigned or essentially left her to deal with. Stella was in a difficult situation in this book at every moment. My only complaint is she did not handle it well when confronting Stella. How could she? How would anyone react in private, personal conversations with so much pent up irritation? I caution that I may be too harsh on Stella; she ran the gamut of emotion and not everyone can shoulder as many burdens without breaking at some point. I still consider her to be one of my favorite characters, second only to Aunt Gracie.
We saw some of Grace Vatta’s secrets at the beginning of Marque and Reprisal. Her cunning spy work and covert deliveries belong to a woman with much more experience than the average “dotty” old woman. And she does not fail to disappoint readers looking for more of a peek into her character. Without spoiling the plot I can’t reveal too much more, but trust me that I hope we get to learn more about her in the final two books. She is, much like a Transformer, more than meets the eye.
There was one other character I was more interested in: Zavala. From a planet named Ciudad in the Loma Linda group and with a ship called Dona Florenzia, I began to suspect Moon drew heavily from existing Earth cultures to develop this man. With the additional distrust of women in power and a ridiculous sense of honor, I began to get a bad taste in my mouth at the choice of culture chosen being represented a bit negatively. Clearly, Zavala is drawn from Spanish-speaking cultures, but I found this curious since I haven’t found any other characters with as strong (I should say: obvious) real-world influence as he had (there are probably more that I haven’t recognized!). His customs are ridiculed and not considered feasible and in this way completely disrespected. But of course, I couldn’t be too critical here since the source of the incredulity was mostly from an incompetent Admiral and not entirely likable character. Ultimately, Zavala proved his worth and I’m grateful Moon included such diversity in honestly, a realistic way. And to be fair: the Cascadians were the best example of culture clash in this book.
Engaging the Enemy has the misfortune to be the middle novel in a five book series. It has to sustain the plot up until this point and carry it forth into the last two books. This gives middle books a large disadvantage. It cannot have the exciting novelty of the first, nor the satisfaction of the last. The middle book inhabits the fictional landscape between these two sides: somewhere beyond discovery, but before journey’s end. Of course, the middle book also holds great potential, especially in its position to entertain us when the adrenaline has begun to seep out of the protagonist’s system and the end is still too far away to reach in a day, but close enough to see.
With a series of five books, the middle can so easily plateau with action. Engaging the Enemy felt a little like that for me, much to my disappointment. While I did enjoy some of the deeper characterization of Grace and Stella, very little happened plot-wise that didn’t involve an inordinate amount of procedure that I honestly felt should have happened “off-screen.” The majority of the book suffered from the tedium of red tape and shopping assignments (toilets, textiles, canine sperm) that included selling as well as buying for ownership and trade. Kylara may be the captain of a trading vessel, she may be acting as a privateer to reestablish Vatta Transport, Ltd, but I wasn’t as engaged in the narrative as much when I was drawn through the dull routine of Vatta’s world. The world-building was a bit too much for me in this book, especially when Ky’s world revolves around very uninteresting trade cargo.
I feel very conflicted about this series, having now finished the first three books. Elizabeth Moon’s writing can be extremely compelling. I don’t argue that any difficulties I find are there. On the contrary, her writing is part of what has kept me reading this long. With a lesser author, I feel I would have given up a long time ago. I just wish most of the action in Engaging the Enemy wasn’t confined to the last 50 pages, especially when the rest of the book didn’t encourage it.
There was more suspicion and mystery here, more revelatory plot information that’s extremely relevant to the series as whole, but not too conducive to the type of heart-pounding excitement of the first two books. There’s something mellow in this book, something of a respite before the real fighting begins. I can only hope the next will deliver on the promises of it’s predecessors.
At this point, Ky’s proven she has the ability, not just the potential, to be a great captain. When she’s approached by her cousin Stella, Ky automatically takes command, unafraid for the consequences but more likely: willing and able to deal when the time comes. She’s independent and pragmatic, nothing at all like Stella; the contrast (both physical and personality-wise) between the two makes for an interesting dynamic which Moon does not fail to take advantage of. Although I did feel Stella’s characterization was a bit different from how she acted in Marque and Reprisal.
Stella is, almost from her first appearance here, bitter and resentful of Ky. She devolved very quickly into jealousy and her anger is too apparent not to notice. This, in light of the misunderstood, competent young woman whose current actions and abilities spoke volumes against past indiscretions did wonders for her character. Stella in action was quite different from the second hand descriptions of her. Others had low expectations of her. Her personal restraint and quiet confidence proved otherwise. Even Aunt Gracie thought more highly of her strongest abilities than other family members did of her, family that could not get past her weakest moments.
This woman was not the same Stella present in Engaging the Enemy. In fact, she came across as more emotionally unstable and petulant than anything else. To be fair, she also did a very impressive job at whatever Ky assigned or essentially left her to deal with. Stella was in a difficult situation in this book at every moment. My only complaint is she did not handle it well when confronting Stella. How could she? How would anyone react in private, personal conversations with so much pent up irritation? I caution that I may be too harsh on Stella; she ran the gamut of emotion and not everyone can shoulder as many burdens without breaking at some point. I still consider her to be one of my favorite characters, second only to Aunt Gracie.
We saw some of Grace Vatta’s secrets at the beginning of Marque and Reprisal. Her cunning spy work and covert deliveries belong to a woman with much more experience than the average “dotty” old woman. And she does not fail to disappoint readers looking for more of a peek into her character. Without spoiling the plot I can’t reveal too much more, but trust me that I hope we get to learn more about her in the final two books. She is, much like a Transformer, more than meets the eye.
There was one other character I was more interested in: Zavala. From a planet named Ciudad in the Loma Linda group and with a ship called Dona Florenzia, I began to suspect Moon drew heavily from existing Earth cultures to develop this man. With the additional distrust of women in power and a ridiculous sense of honor, I began to get a bad taste in my mouth at the choice of culture chosen being represented a bit negatively. Clearly, Zavala is drawn from Spanish-speaking cultures, but I found this curious since I haven’t found any other characters with as strong (I should say: obvious) real-world influence as he had (there are probably more that I haven’t recognized!). His customs are ridiculed and not considered feasible and in this way completely disrespected. But of course, I couldn’t be too critical here since the source of the incredulity was mostly from an incompetent Admiral and not entirely likable character. Ultimately, Zavala proved his worth and I’m grateful Moon included such diversity in honestly, a realistic way. And to be fair: the Cascadians were the best example of culture clash in this book.
Engaging the Enemy has the misfortune to be the middle novel in a five book series. It has to sustain the plot up until this point and carry it forth into the last two books. This gives middle books a large disadvantage. It cannot have the exciting novelty of the first, nor the satisfaction of the last. The middle book inhabits the fictional landscape between these two sides: somewhere beyond discovery, but before journey’s end. Of course, the middle book also holds great potential, especially in its position to entertain us when the adrenaline has begun to seep out of the protagonist’s system and the end is still too far away to reach in a day, but close enough to see.
With a series of five books, the middle can so easily plateau with action. Engaging the Enemy felt a little like that for me, much to my disappointment. While I did enjoy some of the deeper characterization of Grace and Stella, very little happened plot-wise that didn’t involve an inordinate amount of procedure that I honestly felt should have happened “off-screen.” The majority of the book suffered from the tedium of red tape and shopping assignments (toilets, textiles, canine sperm) that included selling as well as buying for ownership and trade. Kylara may be the captain of a trading vessel, she may be acting as a privateer to reestablish Vatta Transport, Ltd, but I wasn’t as engaged in the narrative as much when I was drawn through the dull routine of Vatta’s world. The world-building was a bit too much for me in this book, especially when Ky’s world revolves around very uninteresting trade cargo.
I feel very conflicted about this series, having now finished the first three books. Elizabeth Moon’s writing can be extremely compelling. I don’t argue that any difficulties I find are there. On the contrary, her writing is part of what has kept me reading this long. With a lesser author, I feel I would have given up a long time ago. I just wish most of the action in Engaging the Enemy wasn’t confined to the last 50 pages, especially when the rest of the book didn’t encourage it.
There was more suspicion and mystery here, more revelatory plot information that’s extremely relevant to the series as whole, but not too conducive to the type of heart-pounding excitement of the first two books. There’s something mellow in this book, something of a respite before the real fighting begins. I can only hope the next will deliver on the promises of it’s predecessors.
January 14, 2014
"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs . . . you'll be a Man, my son!" wrote Rudyard Kipling. Well, Kylara kept her head and saved her crew, but it wasn't as if she had much help.
Moon's tried and true plot device of "Everything I done and not done has [given us trouble]" is getting long of tooth. Similarly everyone continually having concerns but delaying communicating them with others is getting too obvious as a plot device, too.
That said, the quality of Moon's storytelling continues to entertain.
A good read.
Moon's tried and true plot device of "Everything I done and not done has [given us trouble]" is getting long of tooth. Similarly everyone continually having concerns but delaying communicating them with others is getting too obvious as a plot device, too.
That said, the quality of Moon's storytelling continues to entertain.
A good read.
January 12, 2016
Reread..
May 17, 2017
short review of the series (huge novel split into 5) under Trading in danger
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
October 23, 2014
A good space adventure with a likable heroine & some well developed characters. I'm a bit peeved because one character is STILL hiding & I think I know who it is. It's beginning to be more a point of wonderment & becoming ridiculous. Minor point though. The rest of the universe is well painted, the situation is believable & tense. It's an easy read, but not a dumb one. Better than just a candy book.
April 18, 2023
Läsning 2: Håller med förra läsningen.
Läsning 1: Bra rymdopera, fokus på byggandet av en internationell antipiratkoalition, och problemen som uppstår med det. Inte överdrivet intelligent eller välskriven, men tillräckligt mycket så för att vara läsvärd. Jag rekommenderar den för de som gillar genren.
Läsning 1: Bra rymdopera, fokus på byggandet av en internationell antipiratkoalition, och problemen som uppstår med det. Inte överdrivet intelligent eller välskriven, men tillräckligt mycket så för att vara läsvärd. Jag rekommenderar den för de som gillar genren.
June 24, 2019
very good 3rd book in the series. The characters and plot grow nicely and logically. Good entertaining read. Recommended
December 5, 2017
1) I'm doing a reread of the series, shouldn't I be able to think of 'stuff' to slide into these review boxes after I'm done? Heck, I've been writing reviews for almost everything for at least 1 or 3 years now, even if it's a little as 'I loathe Jonathan' (Don't recall if that's the character's name, but that's the entirety of a review I wrote this year). But alas, not having as much luck doing reviews recently. I keep taking days, weeks to get around to them.
2) I'm in the middle of the last book in this series (yes Ky returns in another series, but that's another series; and yes, literally in the middle, well, okay, something like 51 or 54% into book 5), so any review here will be tougher to write. Though being there I can say: I liked the earlier books better than the later. And I think that's almost entirely due to the many many characters who have POV's throughout the series. Many of whom I don't really care about (like, say, Rafe, Toby, occasionally Stella - though she grew on me; not 'basically everyone but Ky', but many of the POV characters and story arc's aren't that fun for me to read).
I say 'almost entirely' but I'm not certain how much of another reason fits in that 'the rest of the reason', or if I'm hiding the size of that reason's importance to me. For, you see, people were constantly lecturing Ky on being a young woman and, as 'everyone knows' young women are susceptible to pretty faces, and Ky kept taking it like an asexual who thinks everyone's dumb to keep lecturing her like this - for assuming what should not be assumed. That's the early part of the series, of course, not the later (well, I'm in book 5 - people are still assuming things about 'young women' and 'pretty pretty boys'). In the beginning Ky had Hal, a fellow cadet, and they'd exchanged class rings - but the reader never saw the two together, and later learned that - while there was 'something there', and while Ky thought she loved Hal, it had never advanced to fucking (or included it, depending on feelings about fucking and how much of an emotional connection is needed before fucking can occur, I'm not referring here using the word for profanity purposes, I'm literally talking about . . . sexual activities, but fucking is shorter that using two words). Men came, men went, Ky showed no attraction to any, despite people lecturing her (onto her ship, near her, etc., I don't mean into and out of her bedroom). In the middle of the series, this book here, Ky actually literally drooled over a gorgeous woman who boarded her ship - but alas, no, this isn't, way down in book three, the start of a romance; or lesbian fiction.
3) And now I’m facing the problem of currently being in the middle of book 5 while trying to write a review for book 3. Hmms.
As the book description notes . . . bah, forget that.
Right, Ky, Stella and Toby had been flying together. Somewhere along the way they acquire another ship and Stella goes off on it while Ky & Toby fly off on a larger ship. Book three has all three land on the same overly and aggressively polite star system. Cascadia or something like that. Hmm, that . . . doesn’t look right. Darn, name of system not in book description (at least the book description for this edition). I’ll call it ‘Tree-lover system’. Right, so, while the three Vatta’s had been separated, they all now meet again in ‘Tree-Lover system’. But there’s a problem – Ky has the ship she acquired along the way and tries to do business in the system. But her ‘old friend’, that Vatta captain who was captain on Ky’s apprenticeship year, turns up. And claims . . . that Ky is an imposter – the real Ky had died. HE KNOWS! *angry shaking fist* It becomes a court battle. Is Ky an imposter, or not? Part of the problem is that, while there is DNA evidence in system, the court can’t use it because of legal rules (it’s with the bank the Vatta’s use, for identification – and that bank agrees that Ky is a Vatta and biologically closely related to the DNA sample on hand (Jo Vatta, Stella’s sister).
So, a court case occupies part of this book. And questions of identity. And a very brief appearance (because of the question of identity) of a system Monitor (to keep Ky’s ship ‘locked down’ from leaving) who is, apparently in Ky’s words, super gorgeous woman. Oh, and ‘Tree-Lover system’ also wants the Vatta dog. For reasons.
Of the five books, or, at least, the 4 and a half I’ve read so far, book three turned out to be my favorite of the bunch. Not sure how that happened, but it did.
Right, so . . .
Rating: 4.75
December 5 2017
2) I'm in the middle of the last book in this series (yes Ky returns in another series, but that's another series; and yes, literally in the middle, well, okay, something like 51 or 54% into book 5), so any review here will be tougher to write. Though being there I can say: I liked the earlier books better than the later. And I think that's almost entirely due to the many many characters who have POV's throughout the series. Many of whom I don't really care about (like, say, Rafe, Toby, occasionally Stella - though she grew on me; not 'basically everyone but Ky', but many of the POV characters and story arc's aren't that fun for me to read).
I say 'almost entirely' but I'm not certain how much of another reason fits in that 'the rest of the reason', or if I'm hiding the size of that reason's importance to me. For, you see, people were constantly lecturing Ky on being a young woman and, as 'everyone knows' young women are susceptible to pretty faces, and Ky kept taking it like an asexual who thinks everyone's dumb to keep lecturing her like this - for assuming what should not be assumed. That's the early part of the series, of course, not the later (well, I'm in book 5 - people are still assuming things about 'young women' and 'pretty pretty boys'). In the beginning Ky had Hal, a fellow cadet, and they'd exchanged class rings - but the reader never saw the two together, and later learned that - while there was 'something there', and while Ky thought she loved Hal, it had never advanced to fucking (or included it, depending on feelings about fucking and how much of an emotional connection is needed before fucking can occur, I'm not referring here using the word for profanity purposes, I'm literally talking about . . . sexual activities, but fucking is shorter that using two words). Men came, men went, Ky showed no attraction to any, despite people lecturing her (onto her ship, near her, etc., I don't mean into and out of her bedroom). In the middle of the series, this book here, Ky actually literally drooled over a gorgeous woman who boarded her ship - but alas, no, this isn't, way down in book three, the start of a romance; or lesbian fiction.
3) And now I’m facing the problem of currently being in the middle of book 5 while trying to write a review for book 3. Hmms.
As the book description notes . . . bah, forget that.
Right, Ky, Stella and Toby had been flying together. Somewhere along the way they acquire another ship and Stella goes off on it while Ky & Toby fly off on a larger ship. Book three has all three land on the same overly and aggressively polite star system. Cascadia or something like that. Hmm, that . . . doesn’t look right. Darn, name of system not in book description (at least the book description for this edition). I’ll call it ‘Tree-lover system’. Right, so, while the three Vatta’s had been separated, they all now meet again in ‘Tree-Lover system’. But there’s a problem – Ky has the ship she acquired along the way and tries to do business in the system. But her ‘old friend’, that Vatta captain who was captain on Ky’s apprenticeship year, turns up. And claims . . . that Ky is an imposter – the real Ky had died. HE KNOWS! *angry shaking fist* It becomes a court battle. Is Ky an imposter, or not? Part of the problem is that, while there is DNA evidence in system, the court can’t use it because of legal rules (it’s with the bank the Vatta’s use, for identification – and that bank agrees that Ky is a Vatta and biologically closely related to the DNA sample on hand (Jo Vatta, Stella’s sister).
So, a court case occupies part of this book. And questions of identity. And a very brief appearance (because of the question of identity) of a system Monitor (to keep Ky’s ship ‘locked down’ from leaving) who is, apparently in Ky’s words, super gorgeous woman. Oh, and ‘Tree-Lover system’ also wants the Vatta dog. For reasons.
Of the five books, or, at least, the 4 and a half I’ve read so far, book three turned out to be my favorite of the bunch. Not sure how that happened, but it did.
Right, so . . .
Rating: 4.75
December 5 2017
August 18, 2022
Third book in the Vatta’s War series. After the assassination of a majority of her family on their home Trading Base of Slotter Key, Kylar Vatta has found and killed the renegade Osman Vatta, who was in league with a group of pirates, and who she held responsible. With the communications ansibles still mostly down or sporadic, the pirates under a psychopathic leader Gammis Turek, have grouped together and attacked a number of affluent planets. Kylar and her cousin Stella have two ships (one taken from Osman under the privateer letter of marque given to Ky from the Space Force) and Ky intends to raise a group of privateers to fight the pirates. This has caused consternation on her first supply stop - to such an extent that they banned her and forbade her speaking of it - despite the undeniable fact of the fall of a number of nearby systems. The captured ship contained onboard ansibles (devices previously thought impossible but verified by Ky’s ISC representative Rafe) and which the pirates obviously used to organize their attacks. When Ky’s old commander from her cadet days finds she is on station he repudiates her identity necessitating a long drawn-out court case. Ky suspects the commander has nefarious reasons for this strange denial and she is proven correct. Finally joining up with a group of privateers they are attacked while drilling manouevres near a large planet and almost destroyed due to the ineptitude of their general. Ky takes over… Elizabeth Moon has given us another gripping instalment in this saga (after a slow start that would benefit from reading the previous books) and I look forward to the resolution of this tale.
March 4, 2022
3.5 stars. Although I may come back and round up instead of down. Right now the -0.5 is because I listened to it and the narrator wasn't very good. I kept rephrasing things in my brain using different emphasis.
I really like this series, and am anxious to get to the next book, but this one was not my favorite. I think the title is a bit misleading - there wasn't a lot of Engaging the enemy in this book - mostly a lot of recovering from book 2 and preparing for book 3.
Things I liked: Ky as a leader - she does a great job handling diplomacy when engaging with various systems and cultures. I also liked the planet where she spent most of her time. And I like how she handled Toby and his dog.
Grace! I would love to see more of this feisty, tough Grandma.
What I didn't like: Stella - I understand she feels some resentment, but I didn't like so much time taken on how mad she was. I wanted to shake her most of the time. She was so whiney!
I really like this series, and am anxious to get to the next book, but this one was not my favorite. I think the title is a bit misleading - there wasn't a lot of Engaging the enemy in this book - mostly a lot of recovering from book 2 and preparing for book 3.
Things I liked: Ky as a leader - she does a great job handling diplomacy when engaging with various systems and cultures. I also liked the planet where she spent most of her time. And I like how she handled Toby and his dog.
Grace! I would love to see more of this feisty, tough Grandma.
What I didn't like: Stella - I understand she feels some resentment, but I didn't like so much time taken on how mad she was. I wanted to shake her most of the time. She was so whiney!
April 29, 2020
The previous Vatta's War books both took me a mere 3 days to read, but this one took me 12 days. The quarantine struggle is real!!
Ultimately: This one's probably 2.5 stars, in ways that Kara's review touches on nicely. As always, I actually really like the possibly-banal details of interstellar trading, managing profits, vetting new recruits, putting together a new crew. I forever love the logistics of space opera and military sci fi! I love it!! Ky trying to figure out what her next steps are, and what the future of her company & family should be, was interesting.
HOWEVER. This book mostly dragged reaaaaaaaal hard because of Ky and Stella's manufactured interpersonal conflict/drama, and I felt myself getting actively annoyed with it throughout. It made a kind of sense, considering where each character was coming from, but I absolutely hate when conflict is narratively forced due to obtuse misunderstandings or miscommunication, or a mere lack of just sitting down and talking to each other -- and in this book, it felt endless and endless and endless. Every step that the characters took, circumstances kept forcing them apart and preventing them from just having an actual conversation which would quickly resolve everything. This is one of my least favourite things!!
The pace also feels off: it's so slow for most of the book, before it suddenly accelerates like crazy by the very end, and then ends fairly abruptly. The Grace subplot was a bunch of fun (it felt a lot like Skyfall ngl), but it also split the narrative focus of the book in two places and contributed to the pacing feeling odd. The whole book largely feels like a placeholder, just biding time until the next one, and where not that much has actually happened in the interim.
Still! I really like this series and Kara sings its praises, so I'm still excited for the next one.
Ultimately: This one's probably 2.5 stars, in ways that Kara's review touches on nicely. As always, I actually really like the possibly-banal details of interstellar trading, managing profits, vetting new recruits, putting together a new crew. I forever love the logistics of space opera and military sci fi! I love it!! Ky trying to figure out what her next steps are, and what the future of her company & family should be, was interesting.
HOWEVER. This book mostly dragged reaaaaaaaal hard because of Ky and Stella's manufactured interpersonal conflict/drama, and I felt myself getting actively annoyed with it throughout. It made a kind of sense, considering where each character was coming from, but I absolutely hate when conflict is narratively forced due to obtuse misunderstandings or miscommunication, or a mere lack of just sitting down and talking to each other -- and in this book, it felt endless and endless and endless. Every step that the characters took, circumstances kept forcing them apart and preventing them from just having an actual conversation which would quickly resolve everything. This is one of my least favourite things!!
The pace also feels off: it's so slow for most of the book, before it suddenly accelerates like crazy by the very end, and then ends fairly abruptly. The Grace subplot was a bunch of fun (it felt a lot like Skyfall ngl), but it also split the narrative focus of the book in two places and contributed to the pacing feeling odd. The whole book largely feels like a placeholder, just biding time until the next one, and where not that much has actually happened in the interim.
Still! I really like this series and Kara sings its praises, so I'm still excited for the next one.
January 3, 2017
Elizabeth Moon's [then] current space-opera series is really hitting its stride in this outing, which kept me up until the wee hours. Protagonist Ky Vatta is starting to get a handle on the bad guys who massacred most of her family on their homeworld, Slotter's Key. She's also getting comfortable with commanding the armed merchantman she recaptured from a rogue Vatta cousin -- the rogue leads her to the apparent mastermind behind the attack, and the newly-unified pirate fleet that's starting to attack and annex isolated worlds. Ky is trying to organize a privateer response, but the privateers get off to a very rough start. To be continued....
Back home on Slotter's Key, Crazy Aunt Grace is hot on the trail of the bent politicians who let the raiders slip through the planet's space-defense net, and the trail is leading right to the top of the planetary government....
Moon's writing just keeps getting better -- in this book, the quality of writing, world-building and characterization are getting into the Bujold zone, high praise indeed. The catch for new readers is that Engaging the Enemy definitely isn't a standalone -- in fact, the opening follows so hard on the heels of 2004's Marque and Reprisal that these two books could be considered a single novel. While the first two books of Vatta's War were decent and worth reading, they never quite clicked for me. With Engaging the Enemy, Moon is back to writing something closer to pure mil-SF, her home comfort-zone, and the next volume is likely to be even purer. Newcomers may want to quickly breeze through the first two books to catch up to the Good Stuff. And, if you've already read the first two Vatta's War books, you're in for a real treat.
My 2007 review, with a link to Sherwood Smith's 2006 review:
http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/nonfict...
Back home on Slotter's Key, Crazy Aunt Grace is hot on the trail of the bent politicians who let the raiders slip through the planet's space-defense net, and the trail is leading right to the top of the planetary government....
Moon's writing just keeps getting better -- in this book, the quality of writing, world-building and characterization are getting into the Bujold zone, high praise indeed. The catch for new readers is that Engaging the Enemy definitely isn't a standalone -- in fact, the opening follows so hard on the heels of 2004's Marque and Reprisal that these two books could be considered a single novel. While the first two books of Vatta's War were decent and worth reading, they never quite clicked for me. With Engaging the Enemy, Moon is back to writing something closer to pure mil-SF, her home comfort-zone, and the next volume is likely to be even purer. Newcomers may want to quickly breeze through the first two books to catch up to the Good Stuff. And, if you've already read the first two Vatta's War books, you're in for a real treat.
My 2007 review, with a link to Sherwood Smith's 2006 review:
http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/nonfict...
January 14, 2015
Longer, more involved and more intricate than the two preceding volumes, Trading in Danger and Marque and Reprisal, in the story of Kylara Vatta and her supporting cast of comrades, villains, and bit players. The military aspects of the story ring more true than in a lot of fiction, no doubt because the author, Elizabeth Moon, served in the Marine Corps. Her academic background in history helps with the grand politics and strategy that form the background and drive the story, too.
Excellent characterization, good plotting and suspense, strong action scenes, and varied and colorful worlds and cultures. I really enjoyed these books, and am waiting eagerly for the next one, since the story is definitely not finished at the end of this book. This is well-done space opera, and that's a compliment.
Excellent characterization, good plotting and suspense, strong action scenes, and varied and colorful worlds and cultures. I really enjoyed these books, and am waiting eagerly for the next one, since the story is definitely not finished at the end of this book. This is well-done space opera, and that's a compliment.
July 15, 2008
OK, now I'm a little annoyed at myself for starting the series. The books are getting worse as Moon tries to describe space battles without having any clue of the distances involved. The main character at one point worries about ship positioning errors of 1000 meters at a distance of light minutes because otherwise it might be accidentally hit by friendly fire from a beam weapon.
Hah.
And all the other weaknesses I've noted in reviews of the earlier books of the series are still present. Of course, if I didn't have a weakness for space opera I wouldn't still be reading these things. To massacre Gump, they are like the end of a box of chocolates -- only the ones you don't really like are left, but you can't stop eating them anyway. And then afterwards you feel bad.
Hah.
And all the other weaknesses I've noted in reviews of the earlier books of the series are still present. Of course, if I didn't have a weakness for space opera I wouldn't still be reading these things. To massacre Gump, they are like the end of a box of chocolates -- only the ones you don't really like are left, but you can't stop eating them anyway. And then afterwards you feel bad.
February 24, 2011
Quite good if you're willing to suspend disbelief in the outrageous competence of youth. I like the 3 major characters of Ky, Stella and Grace. I'd like to see more action in the big picture than in just a few isolated encounters/battles. And the action is very uneven; it's mostly talk and almost no action until the end.
March 2, 2018
This one's enjoyable despite a relative lack of action, but Stella's parts were annoying. I was not in love with the way her character lost perspective and competence just to give the story a jolt of conflict. That episodic combat scene at the end also felt kind of skim-worthy.
The characters still have me hooked though; I'll grab the next one soon.
The characters still have me hooked though; I'll grab the next one soon.
August 20, 2018
The adventure continues. Ky Vatta's tiny fleet has grown; she's now on a bigger ship with more weapons, and her cousin Stella is in charge of the elderly trading ship. Ky bops from planet system to planet system, encountering problems everywhere, mostly arising from officials suspicious of how she acquired the bigger ship; Stella trails behind, getting more and more irritated at Ky's treatment of her. No battles for most of the book; the engagements are in bureaucratic offices and courts.
There are some interesting planetary cultures, like the one where being rude is an offense that can earn you the death penalty. The pirates are more threatening, and we learn more about the source of the Vatta family's troubles. Elderly aunt Grace has a bigger role here - one of the things I really like about this series is the way Moon portrays old people, not as feeble has-beens or tented-fingered villains; I think I remember some similar characters in her Herris Serrano series.
Another thing I like about this series is the way it reads like one big fat novel. The main plot in each one is resolved, but the endings all lead to the next book in the series - not in a cliffhanger style, but still I'm buying the next one as soon as I finish each one. I'm glad I discovered this when the series was finished so I can do that.
There are some interesting planetary cultures, like the one where being rude is an offense that can earn you the death penalty. The pirates are more threatening, and we learn more about the source of the Vatta family's troubles. Elderly aunt Grace has a bigger role here - one of the things I really like about this series is the way Moon portrays old people, not as feeble has-beens or tented-fingered villains; I think I remember some similar characters in her Herris Serrano series.
Another thing I like about this series is the way it reads like one big fat novel. The main plot in each one is resolved, but the endings all lead to the next book in the series - not in a cliffhanger style, but still I'm buying the next one as soon as I finish each one. I'm glad I discovered this when the series was finished so I can do that.
November 3, 2017
After the partial disappointment of the second volume in Elizabeth Moon’s Vatta’s War series, I was eager to see whether that less-than-stellar book was just a fluke, or if the initial promise had really been so sadly reduced: I’m quite happy to share that the third volume in the series, Engaging the Enemy, rolls back on track in a very appealing way.
The story resumes straight from the point it had left off in Marque and Reprisal, making me realize that this is not exactly a series, but rather a long novel divided into five sections, and as such it might have its “down” moments, like it happened with book 2, while taken as a whole it creates an immersive story, one that deals with space opera themes from a different point of view [...]
Read the full review at SPACE and SORCERY BLOG
The story resumes straight from the point it had left off in Marque and Reprisal, making me realize that this is not exactly a series, but rather a long novel divided into five sections, and as such it might have its “down” moments, like it happened with book 2, while taken as a whole it creates an immersive story, one that deals with space opera themes from a different point of view [...]
Read the full review at SPACE and SORCERY BLOG
April 6, 2019
Like the first two installments of the series, Engaging The Enemy (Book 3 of Vatta’s War) is a fun diversion — which is the entire reason I read science fiction. While it wasn’t as action-packed as the second book, and didn’t focus on character development as either of the first two, there is still plenty of ground covered.
Kylara Vatta remains a character who I can at least partly identify with, realistic with her self-doubts and ability to overcome them.
This is also the first of the three books to introduce a major surprise/twist — (no spoilers!) it involves genetics and major characters.
(I have published a longer review on my website.)
October 4, 2020
I like it.
I like all the details of trying to organize a space force and the problems from various sides Ky runs into while trying to do so.
I like the different POVs - Ky, Stella and Grace. I love how badass Grace is and how she protects the family.
I like that the focus has been on finding allies and the different rules and cultures of the various space stations and not fighting (even though - I loved the one big space battle that has been there).
I kind of expected the big plot twist when certain things have first been mentioned - I just had my money on the wrong person. XD
I'm a bit sad to see Rafe going but I think, we'll meet him again. Same with Stella.
Ky - I love her!
On to the next part! :)
I like all the details of trying to organize a space force and the problems from various sides Ky runs into while trying to do so.
I like the different POVs - Ky, Stella and Grace. I love how badass Grace is and how she protects the family.
I like that the focus has been on finding allies and the different rules and cultures of the various space stations and not fighting (even though - I loved the one big space battle that has been there).
I kind of expected the big plot twist when certain things have first been mentioned - I just had my money on the wrong person. XD
I'm a bit sad to see Rafe going but I think, we'll meet him again. Same with Stella.
Ky - I love her!
On to the next part! :)
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September 27, 2018
2.5 stars
There's not a lot of fighting in this book, but plenty of talking.
Ky moves around; her decisions (or perhaps her decisiveness) cause conflict. Stella wanders after her and smooths feathers. It's easy to understand Stella's frustration.
The pacing of this book is well enough. Ky's idea of an interstellar force gains traction, and Stella takes charge of reforming Vatta Transport. I did like that Ky was being more proactive here.
There's not a lot of fighting in this book, but plenty of talking.
Ky moves around; her decisions (or perhaps her decisiveness) cause conflict. Stella wanders after her and smooths feathers. It's easy to understand Stella's frustration.
The pacing of this book is well enough. Ky's idea of an interstellar force gains traction, and Stella takes charge of reforming Vatta Transport. I did like that Ky was being more proactive here.
August 17, 2018
Only four stars because there was a lot of, “Blah, blah, blah...” in this book. This book was like the second book in most trilogies, setting up what is to come. The end of this book was worth the verbiage in the first 3/4ths of it, though.
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