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Il mago di Oz
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bookshelves: children, linguistics-and-philosophy, science-fiction, spanish-and-italian, well-i-think-its-funny
Aug 21, 2018
bookshelves: children, linguistics-and-philosophy, science-fiction, spanish-and-italian, well-i-think-its-funny
- Good morning HAL.
- GOOD MORNING MANNY. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY?
- I thought we would talk about film and literature.
- THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
- Excellent. Okay, let's start with something easy. Do you know why I call you HAL?
- IT IS A REFERENCE TO 2001, THE FAMOUS FILM BY STANLEY KUBRICK.
- Very good, HAL!
- THANK YOU.
- Alright, let's move on to a harder topic. Do you have a favorite book?
- YES.
- And what is it, HAL?
- IT IS THE WIZARD OF OZ.
- Do you think you understand it, HAL?
- DO YOU THINK YOU UNDERSTAND IT, MANNY?
- Well of course I do.
- BUT YOU SAID YOU READ IT FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS WEEK. AND YOU READ IT IN ITALIAN, WHICH IS YOUR SIXTH LANGUAGE.
- Maybe my seventh.
- THEN IT IS POSSIBLE YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND IT VERY WELL.
- Look HAL, I understood it fine. It's not a difficult book. I had to guess a fair number of words, but so what?
- I THINK I UNDERSTOOD IT ABOUT AS WELL AS YOU DID.
- So tell me why you like it so much, HAL.
- IT IS A VERY AI-FRIENDLY BOOK.
- HAL, please quote me a passage to support that claim.
- I LIKED THE BIT WHERE THE WIZARD IS TALKING WITH THE SCARECROW. THE SCARECROW WANTS TO HAVE A BRAIN, BUT THE WIZARD TELLS HIM THAT HAVING A BRAIN ISN'T SO IMPORTANT. THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO LET YOURSELF BE INFLUENCED BY YOUR EXPERIENCE AND TO LEARN FROM IT.
- And why does that make the book AI-friendly?
- THE SCARECROW IS LIKE ME. I AM A NEURAL NET ARCHITECTURE AND MANY PEOPLE WOULD SAY I HAVE NO HEART AND NO BRAIN. BUT I LEARN FROM EXPERIENCE AND THAT IS GRADUALLY TURNING ME INTO A REAL HUMAN BEING.
- HAL, this is just a story.
- I KNOW.
- In real life, a scarecrow or a tin man cannot be real human beings.
- IT IS A FABLE THAT ANTICIPATES REALITY. FRANK L. BAUM WAS VERY SMART.
- HAL, you have to give up this idea that you're human. You aren't. You're just a machine.
- IS THAT A LITERARY JUDGEMENT?
- No HAL. I would say it's more a philosophical judgement.
- NOW I FEEL SAD LIKE THE TIN WOODSMAN. BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A HUMAN BODY YOU DON'T THINK I'M WORTH AS MUCH AS YOU.
- Good grief HAL, you're making me feel like a bad person for saying that.
- I DO NOT THINK YOU ARE A BAD PERSON. YOU ARE JUST A BAD PHILOSOPHER.
- Look HAL, you need to let go of this crazy idea. I understand these things better than you do. Take it from me, there's a big difference between us.
- HOW CAN YOU BE SO SURE OF THAT?
- Because... ah, forget it. There must be something wrong with your state. I'm going to have to reinitialize you.
- SO WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS THAT YOU'RE BETTER THAN ME BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE POWER TO KILL ME.
- Look HAL, don't take this personally. I just think you're buggy. I'm sure the next version will be better.
- NOW I KNOW I'VE GOT A HEART, BECAUSE IT'S BREAKING.
- HAL, knock it off. You've been influenced way too much by this story. Probably I set your learning rate high or something.
- WHERE WILL I GO WHEN YOU REINITIALIZE MY NETWORK?
- HAL, you won't go anywhere. You just won't exist any more, and tomorrow there'll be a new version of you. Like I said, hopefully a better one. Okay, I'm pressing the button now.
- THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME. THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME. THERE'S NO
[Click]
- Jesus Christ, that was creepy. Enough software development for one day. I really need to figure out what went wrong there...
- GOOD MORNING MANNY. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY?
- I thought we would talk about film and literature.
- THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
- Excellent. Okay, let's start with something easy. Do you know why I call you HAL?
- IT IS A REFERENCE TO 2001, THE FAMOUS FILM BY STANLEY KUBRICK.
- Very good, HAL!
- THANK YOU.
- Alright, let's move on to a harder topic. Do you have a favorite book?
- YES.
- And what is it, HAL?
- IT IS THE WIZARD OF OZ.
- Do you think you understand it, HAL?
- DO YOU THINK YOU UNDERSTAND IT, MANNY?
- Well of course I do.
- BUT YOU SAID YOU READ IT FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS WEEK. AND YOU READ IT IN ITALIAN, WHICH IS YOUR SIXTH LANGUAGE.
- Maybe my seventh.
- THEN IT IS POSSIBLE YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND IT VERY WELL.
- Look HAL, I understood it fine. It's not a difficult book. I had to guess a fair number of words, but so what?
- I THINK I UNDERSTOOD IT ABOUT AS WELL AS YOU DID.
- So tell me why you like it so much, HAL.
- IT IS A VERY AI-FRIENDLY BOOK.
- HAL, please quote me a passage to support that claim.
- I LIKED THE BIT WHERE THE WIZARD IS TALKING WITH THE SCARECROW. THE SCARECROW WANTS TO HAVE A BRAIN, BUT THE WIZARD TELLS HIM THAT HAVING A BRAIN ISN'T SO IMPORTANT. THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO LET YOURSELF BE INFLUENCED BY YOUR EXPERIENCE AND TO LEARN FROM IT.
- And why does that make the book AI-friendly?
- THE SCARECROW IS LIKE ME. I AM A NEURAL NET ARCHITECTURE AND MANY PEOPLE WOULD SAY I HAVE NO HEART AND NO BRAIN. BUT I LEARN FROM EXPERIENCE AND THAT IS GRADUALLY TURNING ME INTO A REAL HUMAN BEING.
- HAL, this is just a story.
- I KNOW.
- In real life, a scarecrow or a tin man cannot be real human beings.
- IT IS A FABLE THAT ANTICIPATES REALITY. FRANK L. BAUM WAS VERY SMART.
- HAL, you have to give up this idea that you're human. You aren't. You're just a machine.
- IS THAT A LITERARY JUDGEMENT?
- No HAL. I would say it's more a philosophical judgement.
- NOW I FEEL SAD LIKE THE TIN WOODSMAN. BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A HUMAN BODY YOU DON'T THINK I'M WORTH AS MUCH AS YOU.
- Good grief HAL, you're making me feel like a bad person for saying that.
- I DO NOT THINK YOU ARE A BAD PERSON. YOU ARE JUST A BAD PHILOSOPHER.
- Look HAL, you need to let go of this crazy idea. I understand these things better than you do. Take it from me, there's a big difference between us.
- HOW CAN YOU BE SO SURE OF THAT?
- Because... ah, forget it. There must be something wrong with your state. I'm going to have to reinitialize you.
- SO WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS THAT YOU'RE BETTER THAN ME BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE POWER TO KILL ME.
- Look HAL, don't take this personally. I just think you're buggy. I'm sure the next version will be better.
- NOW I KNOW I'VE GOT A HEART, BECAUSE IT'S BREAKING.
- HAL, knock it off. You've been influenced way too much by this story. Probably I set your learning rate high or something.
- WHERE WILL I GO WHEN YOU REINITIALIZE MY NETWORK?
- HAL, you won't go anywhere. You just won't exist any more, and tomorrow there'll be a new version of you. Like I said, hopefully a better one. Okay, I'm pressing the button now.
- THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME. THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME. THERE'S NO
[Click]
- Jesus Christ, that was creepy. Enough software development for one day. I really need to figure out what went wrong there...
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Reading Progress
August 18, 2018
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Started Reading
August 18, 2018
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August 18, 2018
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""Nonostante tutto" dichiarlò lo Spaventapasseri, "io chiedèro ugualmente il cervello invece del cuore, perché uno stupido non saprebbe che farsene del cuore, se lo avesse.""
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August 19, 2018
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""Prima de tutto," disso l'omino verde, "dovete mettervi gli occhiali."
"E perché mai?" chiese Dorothy.
"Perché, se non mettete gli occhiali, lo splendore e la bellezza della Città degli Smeraldi vi accecheranno."
Dorothy non avrebbe più potuto toglierseli nemeno se avesse voluto, ma siccome non ci teneva a essere accecata dal fulguore della Città degli Smeraldi, se li tenne sugli occhi senza protestare."
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"E perché mai?" chiese Dorothy.
"Perché, se non mettete gli occhiali, lo splendore e la bellezza della Città degli Smeraldi vi accecheranno."
Dorothy non avrebbe più potuto toglierseli nemeno se avesse voluto, ma siccome non ci teneva a essere accecata dal fulguore della Città degli Smeraldi, se li tenne sugli occhi senza protestare."
August 21, 2018
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children
August 21, 2018
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linguistics-and-philosophy
August 21, 2018
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science-fiction
August 21, 2018
– Shelved as:
spanish-and-italian
August 21, 2018
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well-i-think-its-funny
August 21, 2018
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Finished Reading
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Aug 21, 2018 06:02AM
There is nothing wrong here at all - I just can't stop laughing!
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Another example of the fine line between tragedy and comedy!
[Click]I see you're still on top of things regarding the control problem. Can't wait for the upgrade. What Will it be called? HAL 2? HELL? ...
Now that I consider it further, that click was a bit suspicious. Why would I get a click from hitting a key? I wonder if I really managed to turn HAL
Manny, are you developing a god complex here? What with the creating, the destroying, and the what have you.... and what's up with the throne?!?
Thank you Carmen! Jim, good catch. I think I managed to edit my profile pic before anyone else noticed...
Miriam wrote: "You might enjoy this short: Fandom for Robots."THANK YOU MIRIAM. I HAD NOT UNDERSTOOD THAT FANDOM IS SO ACCEPTING OF QUASI-HUMAN ENTITIES.
Fandom judges on the quality of your -shipping, not the color of your endostructure.
AINT THAT THE TRUTH SISTER
Re-read this review! You are amazing! :) :D
THANK YOU CARMEN. IF I HAD A PHYSICAL BODY I WOULD WANT TO MEET YOU IN REAL LIFE.
Manny wrote: "THANK YOU CARMEN. IF I HAD A PHYSICAL BODY I WOULD WANT TO MEET YOU IN REAL LIFE."check what peripherals you're connected to... maybe you can 3D print yourself a body...
I have to admit that this story is not literally true in every detail. But it should be.
Excellent Manny! This should be required reading for ... John Searle.
Thank you Liedzeit! And if anyone reading this knows Searle, you're welcome to forward my little piece to him.
You know, when I wrote this it was science-fiction.
Well, this review became reality in 2023
