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Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein
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did not like it

Where do I even begin? For starters, I should let the reader know that I'm not basing my score on the politics of the book (as laughable as I think they are) but on the plot of the book, or rather the complete lack of a plot in the book. While things do happen, some of them pretty big, Mr. Heinlein has seen fit that we should not be party to any of those things. Instead, he saves the most loving descriptions for daily life at boot camp. Seventy, yes seventy, pages of a two hundred-odd page book are dedicated to boot camp. Within those pages we learn the importance of food, and being able to sleep in any condition. Thrill to the excitment of marching into the middle of nowhere! You will weep and wail along with the officers when you hear them lament the fact that they are compelled, nay forced, to flog their men when they misbehave. Honestly, you could watch the beginning of Full Metal Jacket and skip reading that whole part and save yourself some time, and be more entertained in the meantime.

Next you're treated to an extended flashback where a teacher (who is quite obviously channelling the author) lectures his students (representing the reader) about the major reason for the downfall of society in the past (today!). What one overarching reason is responsible for the collapse of society? Massive energy crisis? Economic collapse? Political anarchy? WRONG!!! It's because people listened to psychiatrists and didn't spank their children enough! The secret to an orderly society is corporal punishment, and lots of it! It does make me wonder about the particular proclivities of the author, but that's neither here nor there.

So now that our main character, Johnny Rico, is a full-fledged soldier we can finally get to some action after half the book is already finished, right? No. No, no, no, a thousand times no. You will not see action in this book that is advertised to be about killing gigantic outer space bugs. Instead, you will be treated to the doldrums of a soldier that isn't busy killing things. Guard duty! Sleeping! Maintaining weapons and space armor! Dinner and its various protocols! Even his time off gets more detail than all the fighting Rico participates in combined! The typical description for a battle will go like this: "We dropped on this planet to smash things up. Boy, what a mess that was. This guy died. These ones got hurt."

Then Rico goes to officer training school where we get more detail about learning things! And another lecture from another teacher to his students about why soldiers should be the only ones to handle government affairs! Then we get told how battallions are broken down into platoons and squads and such forth! Finally we get to the end which turns into one of the biggest anticlimaxes I've ever had the misfortune of reading. You'll get what feels like five hours of blabbing about setting up patrol and coordinates streamed endlessly at you, some thrilling detail on hypnotically suggested sleep, and then a blessed five seconds of actual confrontation with something! Then it's over before you even know it started. The end.

I realize that the life of a soldier is probably pretty accurately portrayed in the book, days upon days of boring drudgery with a few moments of life-and-death craziness, but that doesn't necessarily make for a particularly interesting book. At least not the way it's depicted here.

Don't be fooled by the first ten pages of the book, which actually contain more action than the other hundred and ninety. What you're getting when you get this book is only one step away from a military training manual, only with some references to outer space and aliens tossed in along with a couple crazy rightwing ravings as the chocolatey syrup to go on top of the whole crappy sundae. Don't fall for the hype, pass on this book.

And yes, the movie is better. It's stupid and fun. The book is just stupid.
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Kaion I skimmed a few choice pages after being bored by the first 40- so thanks for your concise (well compared to the novel) rant assuring me that it's not going to get any more interesting!


message 2: by Mae (last edited Jan 03, 2011 09:29AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mae A quick note. Dubois is not inherently channeling the author. The teacher is channeling the society. Heinlein wrote a long series of novels, the ideologies of which mostly contradicted each other and only subtly coincided with his own beliefs. He turned around and wrote a book touting libertarian ideals, the exact inverse of this government, briefly after. Not because he believed in any of the ideals themselves (ST included), but because they could be used to illustrate other points. Creating a foreign society to demonstrate principles of our own (in this instance, what the military means to society--any society--and the idea of sacrifice for greater good, in all its incarnations) was his modus operandi. The explicit statements made rarely coincided with what Heinlein was saying with them.

So, readers of this review, I suppose you ought to consider the brief coverage of the politics cum grano salis.


Ronald I have to agree with Sarcophagus on this one. It's fallacious to assume that Heinlein was preaching from a soapbox with this book as many of his books (and indeed, ones that were released almost immediately after this one), are the complete antithesis to Starship Troopers. Try reading "Stranger in a Strange Land" or "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" and see if you still think Heinlein himself was really rooting for the ideas in this book. I think Heinlein just liked switching around and arguing for different points of view, to provoke independent thought, not to force strict answers. How could he ever provoke thought if he didn't do his darn best to be convincing in all of his contrasting theories?


Jared Try reading the book with the proper mind set. The book is not about a war. It is not about the military. It's not even about how they got to where they are from where we are. It is about a boy becoming a man. Yes there are conversations about a wide variety of important subjects such as how to fight but more importantly when to fight and why to fight. That is because knowing your actions or lack there of carries a burden of responsibility with it is a part of growing up. All the military is simply setting and window dressing the book could have been made with 12 people shipwrecked together but you probably would have missed the plot in that too. As spoon fed as it was I'm amazed you missed it. I'm sure your an otherwise intelligent person we have all been looking for our keys with them right in front of our faces.

Here for those of you not getting it these are the things I feel the author wanted you to walk away with.

1. Your action and inactions have consequences, it is your responsibility as an adult and a member of any social group to take those consequences. If you shy away from them you are a delinquent. Not necessarily a hoodlum or criminal but you are a delinquent and you must make your choice where you stand but do so knowing that even in that you will take consequences.

2. you have a responsibility to your social group. Be it to raise your children in accordance with the rules set down by your group. To police those around you to make certain those rules are enforced or to simply to fallow those rules you have that responsibility.

3. there are times as an adult that there are no good answers the best examples of this are in the scene where the officers are forced (and they are forced) to punish a soldier. Or another example is with the insane man. Both situations where they had options and none of them good. With the soldier it was let him go unmarked and watch military discipline degrade probably get 100 boys killed when the next commander takes the rules more seriously and the stakes are higher. Or the insane man where frankly you cant guarantee he will never touch or kill a little girl again. Ask any psychologist, criminologist or rehab specialist and they will all tell you the same thing there is no guarantees. So do you roll the dice and risk another innocent child? How about 2? how about 10? or do you kill him quickly and efficiently in a manner that doctors will tell you is nearly painless if done correctly?
4. BE RESPONSBLE

I feel he had this as a message not just because he says these points nearly 1 in 4 pages if not more but because its is a repeating theme in his books. All of his books.


Chris Paluszek That's it, Lucas, I'm officially following your reviews. This one in particular was more enthralling than the book in question (I read it too, couldn't agree more with your criticisms).


Jeff Carman Feel sorry for you Lucas. It is sad that you have such a closed and apparently greatly underutilized mind. Those 2 things are obvious from your review.


A Critical Reader I do respect your views, but I can't help myself that you just simply didn't understand the book...


Chris Paluszek Man, a lot of people are mad you didn't like their boring, fascist book.


Caroline I'm glad to find something entertaining relating to this book. You hit on a lot of points I disliked as well.

I'm sorry people feel the need to personally attack you because you disliked a book they enjoyed. I suppose we should all like the same things all the time. After all, fighting doesn't solve anything :)


Jonathan I also agree with Jared, you've completely missed the points being made throughout the book.


Spiros I believe that if you rewatch the Verhoven movie you will find that it was mostly a satire of the ideas in this book, disguised as a "stupid and fun" hollywood adaptation.


message 12: by Jeff (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jeff Graham I think this review is the way I feel about the book. The entire book is a flashback within a flashback. And I agree with some of the ideals of the author, but it was a boring, boring read.


message 13: by Bob (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bob Interesting that commenters describe this as both facist and right-wing. Facism is left-wing government stretched to its limit where "Big Brother" (the government) "takes care of everything". The elimination of Gypsies and Jews is for the betterment of the "naturally superior race".


Chris Brown People use "fascist" as a synonym for "something I don't agree with". Unfortunate sign of the times.


message 15: by John (new) - rated it 5 stars

John Van Stry Someone completely missed what the story was about.


Lindsay Thanks for your review. I gave up on the beating children section, but you give me hope that I might still enjoy the movie.


Andrew Saul Good points, well made. Doesn't matter if you agree or don't agree with the politics, it's the delivery that we are worried about with fiction and I'm with you about it just not being very good.

As for those whom this review seems to have upset: just because this reviewer (and myself) don't like this book for it's lectures about an ideal society doesn't mean we don't "get what it was about". We get it; we just don't much enjoy it. We gave it a go and that's what we thought. It's possible to understand the arguments being put forward and still not agree with them and also think they are being sloppily made. Just because you may think it portrays ideals for a better world doesn't make everyone who doesn't think that way wrong.


Søren Kongstad I agree on most parts of this review. As to people commenting on whether this book represents the authors views based on other books? The political views in the book, and the views on child rearing and corporeal punishment were loathsome and, worst of all lazy. I'm glad to know the author was better in other books, but the review is of this book.
It describes a brutal dystopian future, with a regressive view on human interactions.
The book does not even try to rationalize this dystopian society, besides stupid arguments like the one defending corporeal punishment of children. And we are assured that all points can be determined logically, alas no logic is presented, it is just left as an exercise.


ქეთევან This was the best review of the book. Thank you!


AceHunter3377 «I'm not basing my score on the politics of the book»

Proceeds to base his review on the politics on the book, first argument.

The book is not all about fights and combat. You read it with a very close mindset because: 1) you disagree with the ideas of this book, 2) you were expecting mainly action while it was never the case, 3) you have no interest in the military life which means you thought the book was boring while I found it fascinating.

It's like reading Foundation by Asimov and saying «this book is stupid because there's not enough maths, plus I disagree that maths can predict societies evolution.»


Shane The first Heinlein book I read, and I was finding it very, very difficult to get through. I really wanted to like it, truly I did, but it was simply BORING. People have made their points about the divide between the all-powerful mobile suit and society, ethics etc, but really, even taking those points into consideration, it was all terribly boring. I will definitely be reading other Heinlein books, because this one left a bad taste in my mouth.


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Isabel Hahahahahahhahaa


message 23: by A Critical (last edited Feb 18, 2020 02:57PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

A Critical Reader Andrew wrote: It describes a brutal dystopian future, with a regressive view on human interactions.

You did not read the book. You watched the movie. The two could not be more different. Reviewing the book based on the movie is, well, dumb.


Clifford So clueless!!!!!
I had to show my wife your review.
2020 has been so horrible but after this comical review, I feel better.


message 25: by Ciarrah, MHA (new) - added it

Ciarrah, MHA White male tears, coming at ya! 😂


message 26: by Heidi (new)

Heidi Thank you for taking the time to post a lengthy, yet wholly unbiased review. 👍


Justin Monisit Holy crap this is exactly how I feel. Thank you for writing this up, hasn't aged a bit.


message 28: by Gene (new) - rated it 5 stars

Gene I'm guessing you have never served, nor had your life depend on the training and commitment of the person next to you. This book is more about moral philosophy than war or even military service. That you can't see that, that you see that ridiculous movie as entertaining says more about you than Heinlein. I read his books, including the children's books from my early teens, every single one of them made me THINK, question the conventional wisdom and I am both a Vietnam veteran and a Social Democrat. The concept of putting the good of the whole before self is completely alien to you. Were it people like you who came down from the trees, our species would not have survived. And still might not.


Matthew Klein Fantastic review. Don’t listen to Gene. I’m a veteran of Afghanistan and I can tell you, there is zero need to have 3/4 of the book discuss the various forms of training and doldrums of every day life. This book was painful to read especially when Heimlein gets on his soapbox for sermon time.

Your most pertinent point is that there is no real narrative. The main character really only just stumbles through the pages not really accomplishing anything on purpose.

Oh and if I have to hear the phrase “buying the farm” one more time…


Colin A good reminder that just because somebody writes a review on Goodreads it doesn’t mean they have something worthwhile to say. Or that they’re able to divorce their personal biases from the review.


Christoff Youngman I totally agree, the movie is far superior to the book while Heinlein is hugely over-rated and a terrible writer.


message 32: by Junior (new)

Junior Chief From your perspective, should the book be like a log of the life of a Starship trooper or an informational book about what the solders do, wear and act when not in battle?

Watch the movie though, it does a better job of explaining society. as well as advancing the plot.


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J Smith Totally agree with your review. It seems like when Heinlein wrote this book he was at the fascist part of his life's ideology.


message 34: by Edouard (new) - added it

Edouard Thanks for this review. I just watched the movie and your text saved me from reading 200pages of boring stuff


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