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The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie by Muriel Spark
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Henry Louis Vivian Derozio is a name possibly not known or cared for beyond the frontiers of India.
At the tender age of 17 this man of Anglo-Indian descent, possessing a sharp intellect and an even sharper tongue, was already a Professor of English Literature and History, busy influencing a group of eager, well-bred young men hailing from affluent Bengali families in Calcutta. He became a leading figure in the age of socio-cultural reform movements in Bengal in the dawn of the 19th century through his dissemination of Western philosophical and scientific ideas at a time when our society was stagnating in a cesspool of ignorance and blind prejudices. And his close-knit group of brilliant young students of the Hindu College who were referred to by the smart moniker of 'Derozians', much in the same manner of the ill-famed 'Brodie set' of TPOMJB, were viewed with as much suspicion as unacknowledged respect. But following the pattern of reception of new ideas which are regarded 'radical' and therefore dangerously subversive in their times, Derozio was expelled from the Hindu College and this in turn applied an abrupt brake on the Young Bengal movement.

As much as my teenage self had looked upon the Derozio name and his legacy with a kind of starry-eyed deference, post-acquaintance with a fictional educator as sociopathic and ambiguous as Miss Jean Brodie, I am forced to view this whole idea of an inspirational teacher weaning a student away from conventional methods of learning with utmost skepticism. No I do not intend to overlook Derozio's small but significant contribution to the collective betterment of our society of the times which in turn greatly aided the nationalist movement later on. But maybe, it will be wise to probe deeper for the unadulterated truth rather than be so guilelessly accepting. I am sure both Muriel Spark and Derozio himself would have approved.

Young, impressionable minds being shaped according to someone else's personal standards of nauseating elitism and if one is unlucky enough to fall under the spell of some conniving Miss Jean Brodie in her prime, being sucked right into a sinister trap.
What a slippery slope this is! This setting about to correct the course undertaken by a young learner under the facade of challenging conformity, with a perverse sense of authoritarian entitlement.
'I know better than you, therefore you must follow my instructions.'
In the way of Miss Jean Brodie's attempts at manipulating adolescent girls into competing with each other to be made a part of her venerated 'crème de la crème', people of insidious intent devise ways of propagating some attractive piece of ideology with confident pronouncements of it being the 'path of righteousness' and all that familiar drivel.

Which is why I now realize how treacherous traversing this distance between not knowing and knowing a little better is - there's no way to fill up the vacuum of ignorance other than with information in any form that is available nearby and you better hope that pedagogical influence of the likes of the magnetic Miss Jean Brodies of the world does not hold free reign in the vicinity at the time.
"Give me a girl at an impressionable age, and she is mine for life."

It's been a while since something quite as innocuous sounding as the above claim has left me feeling so deeply unsettled.
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Diane Excellent review, Samadrita. I was also unsettled by this novel and by that quote about girls at an impressionable age.


message 2: by Lynne (last edited Jan 16, 2014 08:57AM) (new)

Lynne King What an excellent review Samadrita. You never cease to impress me.

I haven't read the book but I loved the film with Maggie Smith. Excellent, which led me on to Travels With My Aunt as that was also with Maggie Smith. I haven't read that book either to my shame.


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Tej Very very important point, that one, and you painted it to perfection, comparing it with the personal influence, the 'Derozian' story... its very easy to keep singing paeans no end without maintaining perspective and loosing essence in the process... Very easy to create martyrs and blindly unchallengeably worshiping them at the altars of wisdom than to offer them true gratitude and keep improving upon the ideas that they seeded!
Excellent as ever, Samadrita... :)


Bionic Jean Great review as always, Samadrita! And you chose an unusual but pertinent parallel to illustrate the darker side to this book.


message 5: by Samadrita (last edited Jan 17, 2014 12:37AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Samadrita @Diane:-It's good to know we're on the same page.

@Lynne:-Yes I have heard great things about the Maggie Smith movie. May get to it now.

@Tej:-You said it all and said it so well, Tej. Thank you for your insightful comments as ever.

@Jean:-Thank you for reading and I am glad this parallel made sense.


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Ted Seems like a very perceptive review, Samadrita. I've wanted to read this since seeing the movie a couple years ago. Hopefully I will get to it, and then get back to your review.


message 7: by Garima (new)

Garima Loved your review, Samadrita which is not a new thing but here you stated something I always believed in but never really expressed the same. There got to be a right medium. Anyway, I haven't read the book yet but felt as if I know about it for so long and the reason is your brilliant writing accompanied with wise words. Great work.


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Warwick Very good point. Just look at how some of these Creationist teachers in the southern US have become heroes to their students by apparently fighting The System.


Samadrita Ted wrote: "Seems like a very perceptive review, Samadrita. I've wanted to read this since seeing the movie a couple years ago. Hopefully I will get to it, and then get back to your review."

Thank you for including the review in your archive, Ted. I hope to see the movie soon. There are also numerous theatre adaptations if I am not mistaken.


Samadrita Garima wrote: "Loved your review, Samadrita which is not a new thing but here you stated something I always believed in but never really expressed the same. There got to be a right medium. Anyway, I haven't read ..."

I am glad you knew better by yourself, Garima. I guess I am still a little naive since I actually had a thing for unconventional methods of teaching and learning prior to reading this. Now I am forced to look at the other side of the coin. A brilliant cautionary tale, this.


Samadrita Warwick wrote: "Very good point. Just look at how some of these Creationist teachers in the southern US have become heroes to their students by apparently fighting The System."

Yes those nutjobs who believe the Earth is 5000 years old! That's a very appropriate example.


message 12: by Dolors (last edited Jan 17, 2014 01:00AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Dolors " But maybe, it will be wise to probe deeper for the unadulterated truth rather than be so guilelessly accepting. I am sure both Muriel Spark and Derozio himself would have approved."
Excellent point and insightful reflection as ever Samadrita. Manipulating young people into shaping a certain train of thought attuned to an persuasive leader or to attain a sort of subtly "infused" collective ideology is a double edged-sword. Disturbing and ambiguous conclusions of what seems a poignant novel which delves in the dark recesses of the human psyche. Your reviews ooze with uncanny perception and an inquisitive tone which never fail to provide food for thought Samadrita. Magnificent job and chilling quotations.


Zanna *Standing ovation*


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Garima Samadrita wrote: "Garima wrote: "Loved your review, Samadrita which is not a new thing but here you stated something I always believed in but never really expressed the same. There got to be a right medium. Anyway, ..."

I'm game for unconventional methods too but it certainly depends upon what actually is being taught. I loved the dead poets who formed a society and Mona Lisa's smile was pretty too ;)


Samadrita Dolors wrote: "" But maybe, it will be wise to probe deeper for the unadulterated truth rather than be so guilelessly accepting. I am sure both Muriel Spark and Derozio himself would have approved."
Excellent poi..."


That's the crux of the tale, Dolors. You nailed it. And I never seem to stop marvelling at your way of encapsulating what a review states and so effectively at that.


Samadrita Zanna wrote: "*Standing ovation*"

For Muriel Spark no doubt. :)


Samadrita Garima wrote: "Samadrita wrote: "Garima wrote: "Loved your review, Samadrita which is not a new thing but here you stated something I always believed in but never really expressed the same. There got to be a righ..."

Yes that is very true. What is being taught is of crucial importance. I loved both movies as well although Monalisa Smile was a little underwhelming. Oh another book in a similar-ish vein of unconventional-professor-teaches-select-group-of-students will be The Secret History. I think you may love that one.


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Ted The conversation brings to mind another situation, unconventional teacher influences unconventional student, with a psychiatrist thrown in for good measure; as in Good Will Hunting, a movie I really loved.

Lest we forget that a vast number of teachers have had a very positive effect on students whose lives they've touched, particularly disadvantaged or disturbed students.


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Garima Samadrita wrote: "Garima wrote: "Samadrita wrote: "Garima wrote: "Loved your review, Samadrita which is not a new thing but here you stated something I always believed in but never really expressed the same. There g..."

Yes, Mona Lisa was alrightish. And oh! Tartt's books is getting pushed further n further with all not-so-encouraging reviews so let's see when I'll read one. May be I should wait for your verdict on Goldfinch :)

@Ted: Loved that movie too.


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Steve Good words of warning, Samadrita. I like how you tied in the story of the Derozians. With any luck, it's an apples-to-mangoes comparison, but we should keep our eyes open.


Samadrita Ted wrote: "The conversation brings to mind another situation, unconventional teacher influences unconventional student, with a psychiatrist thrown in for good measure; as in Good Will Hunting, a movie I reall..."

Of course, Ted. Teachers have the unique ability of changing the lives they touch for the better - Good Will Hunting is an ideal example. But TPOMJB is essentially a look at the darker side of teacher-student relationships, a view of the other side of the coin.


Samadrita Garima wrote: "Samadrita wrote: "Garima wrote: "Samadrita wrote: "Garima wrote: "Loved your review, Samadrita which is not a new thing but here you stated something I always believed in but never really expressed..."

Actually TSH is a book whose flaws become obvious to you after you have finished reading it. However while you are reading, it grasps you and doesn't let go. And I seem to think of that book often months after finishing it. Maybe you can reserve it as reading material for a vacation or something.


Samadrita Steve wrote: "Good words of warning, Samadrita. I like how you tied in the story of the Derozians. With any luck, it's an apples-to-mangoes comparison, but we should keep our eyes open."

To be fair to Derozio, it is indeed an apples to mangoes comparison. Since Derozio did much to encourage independent thought unlike Miss Jean Brodie. However, I found quite a few similarities in both these teacher-student relationships as stated in the review. It's always better to be wary and make a conscious decision rather than be charmed by a charismatic teacher into doing morally reprehensible things.


Zanna Samadrita wrote: "Zanna wrote: "*Standing ovation*"

For Muriel Spark no doubt. :)"


Oh no, for you! This review is like a brilliant lecture x


Florence (Lefty) MacIntosh Similar to Lynne in comment #2 my experience with this story the somewhat rose-tinted portrayal by Maggie Smith, she was brilliant in it btw. Your review suggests more depth than the movie offered, added. Thanks Samadrita.


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Henry Avila Classic film made of the book, Maggie Smith won Oscar for it,well deserved,Samadrita...


Nicole~ "Give me a girl at an impressionable age, and she is mine for life." - all but the one who betrayed her. Great review, Samadrita.


Samadrita Zanna wrote: "Samadrita wrote: "Zanna wrote: "*Standing ovation*"

For Muriel Spark no doubt. :)"

Oh no, for you! This review is like a brilliant lecture x"


Aww Zanna that's incredibly kind of you to say.


Samadrita @Florence and Henry:-Yes I definitely intend to watch the Maggie Smith adaptation now. Thank you for the kind comments both of you.

@Nicole:-Yes indeed. It seems the one who betrayed her learnt a valuable lesson in the end by doing the exact opposite of what her teacher taught. Thank you for reading.


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Ema It is the second time I'm reading your review, because I couldn't comment the first time and, after that, life interfered. I wanted to tell you that I had no idea who Henry Louis Vivian Derozio was, so thank you for expanding my knowledge. Professor at 17? Wow...
I like the parallel you draw with Miss Jean Brodie. Well, it is very tempting to have a kind of power over people, and use it. Of course, young minds are an easy target - the real power would have been to shape adults!

I wanted to read this last year for my race to conclude the challenge, but then I gave up and delved into a biiig novel instead. :)


Samadrita Ema wrote: "It is the second time I'm reading your review, because I couldn't comment the first time and, after that, life interfered. I wanted to tell you that I had no idea who Henry Louis Vivian Derozio was..."

Haha I understand the wish to read slimmer novellas to reach reading target. I do the same whenever I lag behind. :) And yes Derozio was an extraordinarily accomplished man at a tender age. But he died really young - a tragic occurrence no doubt.
I hope you do read this some time, Ema.


Steve I liked your review and your close reading of this complex novel. I suspect Muriel Spark regarded Miss Brodie with the same disapproval as you do. As I'm sure you must know, Muriel Spark is greatly admired by a lot of people who know a lot about literature.


Steve Let me just add this thought. I was raised Catholic and went to a Jesuit high school. The Jesuits were founded by St Ignatius of Loyola and I remember a quote attributed to him. He was supposed to have said, "give me a child until he is 7 and I will have him for the rest of his life." Well, not me. I left the Catholic church when I was 21 but this thought occurs often, and why not? We're blank slates when born. First teachers are crucial.


Belinda Except they weren't, were they? The girls grew away from Miss Jean Brodie and eventually Sandy was the one controlling the group.


Cecily I've not heard of Derozio, but the caution his story instilled in you has made you a better judge of the downsides (to put it mildly) of Miss Brodie's methods. Like you, I ended up deeply unsettled. Excellent review.


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