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BREAKING: All 3 major labels are suing AI music generators Suno & Udio. Hammer, dropped. The RIAA is coordinating the two lawsuits on behalf of Sony, Warner & UMG. 1. Against Suno in Massachusetts 2. Against Udio in the Southern District of New York Why? It's been clear that Suno & Udio have trained on copyrighted material with no plan to license or compensate. The RIAA calls it: "𝘮𝘢𝘴𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘧𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘤𝘰𝘱𝘺𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘴𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘥 𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘭𝘰𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘣𝘺 𝘵𝘸𝘰 𝘮𝘶𝘭𝘵𝘪-𝘮𝘪𝘭𝘭𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘥𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘢𝘳 𝘮𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘤 𝘨𝘦𝘯𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘴𝘦𝘳𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘴. 𝘈𝘐 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘦𝘴, 𝘭𝘪𝘬𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘱𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘦𝘴, 𝘮𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘢𝘣𝘪𝘥𝘦 𝘣𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘭𝘢𝘸𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘵 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘯𝘶𝘪𝘵𝘺. 𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘦𝘹𝘦𝘮𝘱𝘵𝘴 𝘈𝘐 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘦𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘺𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘣𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘳𝘶𝘭𝘦𝘴." And this can be done the right way: 1. Train only on licensed catalog 2. Compensate artists & songwriters 3. Full transparency It just takes a little longer & requires actually caring about creatives. Music isn't anti-AI. It's anti-theft. "𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘤 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘶𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘩𝘢𝘴 𝘦𝘮𝘣𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘦𝘥 𝘈𝘐 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘸𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘺 𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘯𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘤𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘥𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘭𝘰𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘶𝘪𝘭𝘥 𝘴𝘶𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘈𝘐 𝘵𝘰𝘰𝘭𝘴 𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘯 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘱𝘶𝘵 𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘰𝘯𝘨𝘸𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘨𝘦." - RIAA So, how does the RIAA know Suno & Udio use copyright materials? They cite 4 examples: 1. Early Suno investor Antonio Rodriguez in the press: "𝘪𝘧 𝘚𝘶𝘯𝘰 𝘩𝘢𝘥 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘭𝘢𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘨𝘰𝘵 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘦𝘥, 𝘐 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘣𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘺 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘯'𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘪𝘯 𝘪𝘵. 𝘐 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘯𝘦𝘦𝘥𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘵 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴." Leaves open they needed to *start* this way 2. Udio execs said their AI was trained on "𝘢 𝘭𝘢𝘳𝘨𝘦𝘳 𝘢𝘮𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘱𝘶𝘣𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘭𝘺-𝘢𝘷𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘩𝘪𝘨𝘩 𝘲𝘶𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘮𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘤" 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘴 "𝘰𝘣𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘥 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘦𝘵" 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 "𝘣𝘦𝘴𝘵 𝘲𝘶𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘮𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘤 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵'𝘴 𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦"... I mean...come on 3. They left producer tags on their output. 4. Many obvious sound-a-likes. WHO WILL WIN? It all comes down to fair use. Either way, we'll finally have an answer. I hope it's one that protects artists. We can do this in a way where everyone wins.

Jonathan Rowden

Hyperstate Music, AI for Creative Enablement Founder and Entrepreneur: Music | Tech | Creativity | Business

2mo

A lot of people are saying “do it right” without questioning what the “it” is, in the first place. There are still so many question-marks surrounding the longevity of an audience and market niche that is being conditioned to view music as analogous in value and experience to viral video trends. Majors, think twice, and think beyond the limited scope of the compensatory issues of this moment

Tony van Veen

CEO at DIY Media Group

2mo

Been waiting for this lawsuit. My prediction is that the same will happen that happened when music no longer needed to be physical. A few companies were sued out of existence (e.g. Napster), a few with obvious ethical problems were pursued out of business (e.g. Limewire, Pirate Bay), and the smart ones (e.g. Spotify) started handing out equity like it was candy to the rightsholders. My guess is that the majors don't want to see Udio and Suno disappear. AI music composition is here to stay. They just want to have a seat at the buffet table, like they did with Spotify, and wait for a big chunk of cash to drop in their laps when those AI companies go public at massive valuations. They already have precedent for what to do for their rightsholders / composers / publishers / artists with their eventual windfall. They did it with their Spotify equity...

Chris Brown

Helping you protect your ideas and creativity and turn them into viable businesses

2mo

I am still confused about this idea of “trained on”. Infringement is one thing- “trained on” is vague. Arguably Metallica was “trained on” Motörhead, Gaga was “trained on” Madonna. Is the only difference that the training is done faster? If a person goes to a library are they infringing? If a person listens to radio are they “trained on” that music?

Rohan Paul

Founder/CEO of Controlla - Ethical AI Singing

2mo

What a great day

Jake Farbman

J.D. Candidate at University of Miami School of Law | Experienced Entertainment Industry Expert

2mo

Happy to see it! Just like every new piece of music technology that has emerged in the past, the industry will adjust and adapt. I look forward to some conclusive guidance on the issue. Jordan Craig, care to weigh in on this??

Christopher Wieduwilt (The AI Musicpreneur)

I teach you how to build a music career with AI (aimusicpreneur.com)

2mo

What we've been waiting for. ✅ Ethical AI & artist compensation first. But I hope the lawsuits turn into collaboration rather than pure confrontation.

Michael Nilsson

Creative Director, Brand Strategist

2mo

Labels should pair their artists (who want to) with AI tech companies. Create new, unique music that is licensed solely for training purposes. The artist integrity is crucial - and anyone should be able to ’block’ their music and compositions from being used as reference/training model. I’m always worries about artists long gone who didn’t anticipate this development in music. And now their estate make all the decisions on their behalf. I forsee a lot of contemporary artists will have a clause in their wills to hinder use of their music outside the intended context.

Hunter Giles

Simplifying royalties, one catalog at a time.

2mo

even worse, they've made major labels the good guys

Time to ban profiteering on human creativity altogether. Languages (same as melodies) belong to people only, and a human being is the only one allowed to benefit from creative use of sounds, words, images or patterns. Simply put, without a human, there is no creativity, no copyrights, so nothing to sell. Companies may organize, distribute, facilitate, publish or deal in a whole myriad of activities, but should never be allowed to speculate on creative works. The potential for abuse is too high for this to be allowed any longer, and last decades teach us that the only direction of change is to the benefit of entities, to the detriment of the Author. This must end.

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