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CEO @ Pavilion | Co-Host of Topline Podcast | Join Top GTM Execs at Pavilion's GTM EMEA Summit | July 10-11, 2024 | London | Get Your Tickets Now

I'm sick of VPs of Sales that don't understand how to read financial statements. I'm sick of Heads of Sales that don't understand that hiring more salespeople does not make more money. You know what makes more money? More meetings. You have to invest in the creation of meetings. Meetings create opportunities. Opportunities create money. Salespeople turn opportunities into money. But they don't create opportunity. A salesperson with the best process in the world and no meetings, gets fired. A salesperson with no process at all, but with tons of meetings, can make you money. So the way that we make money, is to invest in demand generation. Of course, this is easier said than done. But that's what you've got to do. So the VP of sales that says the way that we're going to hit our target is hiring 10 more reps... That's not the right person for the job. P.S. We cover topics like this in Pavilion's CRO School (starts July 25). Members get in free. Not a member? Use my code CRO15 to get 15% off your annual membership. Join Pavilion: https://lnkd.in/ewU-v39n Enroll in CRO School: https://lnkd.in/e7M4aArd

Eddie Reynolds

Strategic RevOps Consulting for B2B SaaS

2w

Wait.....what? Meetings? Really Sam Jacobs? Come on, please tell me you're not serious. You realize that hiring more reps and making more calls doesn't automatically grow revenue but you stop at meetings? You need meetings with the right people in the right companies with the right agenda and messaging to convert to pipeline and closed won deals. If VPs of Sales graduate to "success = more meetings" this doesn't really improve anything. It's far too easy to stack worthless meetings on the calendar. Heck, if you put a gun to my head I can cold call SDRs and book 100 meetings this week to pitch them on some prospecting tool they don't have the power to buy.

Mor Assouline

Founder @ FDTC | AEs and Sales Teams Win More with My Training, Enablement, and Coaching | 2x VP of Sales | >10x Startup Advisor & Consultant |#helpmedontsellme

2w

I know heads of sales that are hiring more salespeople b/c their CEO who spoke to the board said they need to hire more people. Lots of this pressure is coming from the tippy top

Lisa Cole

Helping CMOs achieve more with less via GTM Alignment, AI, Outsourcing, Revenue Mktg & Mktg Performance Mgmt. Mktg Leader | Senior Advisor | Author | Speaker

2w

It's shocking to me that the go to solution to more aggressive revenue goals is hiring more sales reps. This was true in 1999 and it led to insanely high cost of sales which in turn led to the development of a marketing discipline: demand generation. 25 years later companies still doubling down on adding more sales headcount to deal with increasing revenue targets. There are lower cost marketing strategies that can actually improve the productivity of your current sales reps to maximize your company's revenue efficiency.

Josh Wetzel

Strategic GTM Leader | CRO @ OneSignal | Drives growth through urgency and purpose.

2w

Agree with demand gen / meetings. However this also needs to be understood by venture who equated reps to capacity to valuation. That’s changing due to macro economy but remains a thorn in BOD comversations. Lots of 1st time SaaS founder ceos also get rep hiring wrong or rely on VC feedback where they lack operators.

Jeremy Epperson

I Help B2B SaaS Startups Achieve Triple-Digit Growth

2w

I’m seeing hype again about “start heavily investing in brand” which makes me think nobody learned anything in the last 4-5 quarters. Startups need to generate demand.

Michelle Marquis

I am a ShortCut2$. Simple. Consulting with Suppliers and Property Managers in the Short Term Lodging and Tech Industry. Board member and strategic advisor to start-ups.

2w

In an indefinite TAM yes, otherwise this is tricky. Clearly meetings matter but so does process, converson and deal size.

Daren Lauda

CEO at Outset | Helping SaaS executive leadership teams build accurate, long-term booking forecasts

2w

True on both counts. All too often, senior sales leaders focus on a single success metric -- sales bookings aka quota achievement. Many make minimal effort to understand the broader financial implications of sales and marketing spend, even when that spend is a major component of overall corporate spend. Companies should not settle for a CRO/SVP with a singular focus on bookings, that is the domain of a junior or first-line sales leader. In this market, getting "at bats" is key. You said it well: "A salesperson with no process at all, but with tons of meetings, can make you money." So the CRO/SVP must understand all demand generation investments/costs and associated returns. Increasing sales capacity may be part of the picture, but it is never the whole picture.

Monica Stewart

Getting founders out of survival mode through scalable revenue | $2M - $20M ARR

2w

Your core premise (you need demand for AEs to convert) is true….but meetings solve nothing on their own. Almost every company I work with thinks they just need more top of funnel to grow. In 8/10 cases they’d be pouring more fuel into an ineffective machine. This is how you burn capital, burn your market, and burn out your team.

Håkan Forsberg

Unlocking Long-Term B2B Success: Strategic Sales Transformation & Performance Growth | Leveraging Behavioral Insights | Senior Mentor & Board Advisor | Sweden 🇸🇪 / The Netherlands 🇳🇱

2w

Agree , more people is no guarantee for growing the top line, sometimes less can do more. But am also sick of ”Rockstar” sales gurus peddling obsolete inefficient “do more of the same” stories that don’t understand what sales is about 😤 More meetings don’t automatically give you more business, just like more sales people.

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