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Minutes of Proceedings
The committee resumed its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.
Marty Morantz moved, — That the committee resume debate on the motion of Philip Lawrence moved on Friday, May 26, 2023 which read as follows:
That given the committee has yet to achieve its objective of obtaining 20 hours of witness testimony on Bill C-47, notwithstanding the motion adopted by this committee on May 16th, 2023, the committee allocate an additional 10 hours for witness testimony and that clause by clause begin immediately following the 20th hour of witness testimony.
After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Adam Chambers, Jasraj Singh Hallan, Marty Morantz, Rick Perkins, Gabriel Ste-Marie — 5;
NAYS: Yvan Baker, Terry Beech, Daniel Blaikie, Sophie Chatel, Heath MacDonald, Robert J. Morrissey — 6.
Marty Morantz moved, — That in relation to the motion adopted on May 16, 2023, the committee reaffirms its intention to receive a cumulative duration of 20 hours of testimony concerning Bill C-47, also known as the Budget Implementation Act No.1. However, irrespective of the aforementioned motion, it is ordered that the committee refrains from initiating the clause-by-clause examination of the bill until the committee has completed the full 20 hours of witness testimony and that once the committee has completed 20 hours of witness testimony clause by clause consideration being on the business day following the culmination of testimony.
Debate arose thereon.
Terry Beech moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Yvan Baker, Terry Beech, Daniel Blaikie, Sophie Chatel, Julie Dzerowicz, Heath MacDonald, Gabriel Ste-Marie — 7;
NAYS: Jasraj Singh Hallan, Marty Morantz, Rick Perkins, Doug Shipley — 4.
After debate, Clause 4 carried on division.
Clause 5 carried on division.
Clause 6 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Yvan Baker, Terry Beech, Daniel Blaikie, Sophie Chatel, Julie Dzerowicz, Heath MacDonald, Gabriel Ste-Marie — 7;
NAYS: Jasraj Singh Hallan, Marty Morantz, Rick Perkins, Doug Shipley — 4.
Rick Perkins moved, — That the committee reiterate its desire to hear a total of 20 hours of testimony in relation to Bill C-47, Budget Implementation Act No.1, as agreed to on May 16, 2023, and notwithstanding that motion, the committee maintain it's goal of receiving 20 hours of witness testimony but not proceed with clause-by-clause consideration of the bill until the committee hears a minimum of 19 hours of witness testimony.
Debate arose thereon.
At 11:19 a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 11:20 a.m., the sitting resumed.
The debate continued.
At 11:54 a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 12:25 p.m., the sitting resumed.
The debate continued.
Rick Perkins moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.
RULING BY THE CHAIR
The Chair ruled the proposed motion out of order.
Whereupon, Daniel Blaikie appealed the decision of the Chair.
The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was overturned on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Yvan Baker, Terry Beech, Sophie Chatel, Julie Dzerowicz, Heath MacDonald — 5;
NAYS: Mel Arnold, Daniel Blaikie, Adam Chambers, Marty Morantz, Rick Perkins, Gabriel Ste-Marie — 6.
The question was put on the motion of Rick Perkins and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Mel Arnold, Yvan Baker, Terry Beech, Daniel Blaikie, Adam Chambers, Sophie Chatel, Julie Dzerowicz, Heath MacDonald, Marty Morantz, Rick Perkins, Gabriel Ste-Marie — 11;
NAYS: — 0.
At 1:01 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 1:08 p.m., the sitting resumed.
At 1:45 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 1:48 p.m., the sitting resumed.
At 1:49 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 1:51 p.m., the sitting resumed.
At 2:02 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 2:24 p.m., the sitting resumed.
At 2:27 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.