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Minutes of Proceedings
Michael Cooper moved, — That the committee, in relation to its study of foreign election interference, invite Katie Telford, Chief of Staff to the Prime Minister, to appear alone for three hours, during the week of March 13, 2023, provided that she be sworn or affirmed.
Debate arose thereon.
Rachel Blaney moved, — That the motion be amended by adding, after the words “for three hours”, the words “by herself”, and after the words “provided that she be sworn or affirmed”, the following: “; and b. invite the following individuals to appear before the committee as part of this study, provided that they be sworn or affirmed: i. Jeremy Broadhurst, Azam Ishmael, Hamish Marshall and Walied Solomon, national campaign directors for the Liberal Party of Canada and the Conservative Party of Canada during the 2019 and 2021 federal election campaigns; ii. Jenni Byrne, Leader of the Official Opposition’s senior leadership advisor, and Tausha Michaud, Chief of Staff to the former leader of the Official Opposition”.
After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Michael Barrett, Luc Berthold, Rachel Blaney, Michael Cooper, Marie-Hélène Gaudreau, John Nater — 6;
NAYS: Greg Fergus, Jennifer O'Connell, Sherry Romanado, Ruby Sahota, Ryan Turnbull — 5.
Ryan Turnbull moved, — That the motion, as amended, be amended by replacing the words after "in relation to its study of foreign election interference" with the following: “Invite the 2019 and 2021 National Campaign Directors of each recognized party in the House of Commons and the security-cleared party representatives to the Security and Intelligence Threats to Elections Task Force during the 2019 and 2021 federal elections”.
Debate arose thereon.
At 2:02 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 9:04 a.m., on Thursday, March 9, 2023, the sitting resumed.
Debate resumed on the amendment of Ryan Turnbull.
At 12:09 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 12:12 p.m., the sitting resumed.
Ministers Mélanie Joly and Dominic LeBlanc made statements and, with Jennie Chen, answered questions.
At 1:17 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 4:34 p.m., the sitting resumed.
The debate continued.
At 6:18 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 10:33 a.m., on Tuesday, March 14, 2023, the sitting resumed.
Debate resumed on the amendment of Ryan Turnbull.
At 1:11 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 1:26 p.m., the sitting resumed.
The debate continued.
At 4:16 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 4:30 p.m., the sitting resumed.
The debate continued.
At 7:29 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 7:43 p.m., the sitting resumed.
The debate continued.
At 10:09 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 11:00 a.m., on Tuesday, March 21, 2023, the sitting resumed.
Debate resumed on the amendment of Ryan Turnbull.
At 11:04 a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 11:24 a.m., the sitting resumed.
The question was put on the amendment of Ryan Turnbull and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Yvan Baker, Greg Fergus, Sherry Romanado, Ruby Sahota, Jenna Sudds — 5;
NAYS: Michael Barrett, Luc Berthold, Michael Cooper, Marie-Hélène Gaudreau, Peter Julian, John Nater — 6.
Michael Cooper moved, — That the motion, as amended, be amended by replacing the words “during the week of March 13, 2023,” with the following: “between Monday, April 3, 2023, and Friday, April 14, 2023,”.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Michael Cooper and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Yvan Baker, Michael Barrett, Luc Berthold, Michael Cooper, Greg Fergus, Marie-Hélène Gaudreau, Peter Julian, John Nater, Sherry Romanado, Ruby Sahota, Jenna Sudds — 11;
NAYS: — 0.
Peter Julian moved, — That the motion, as amended, be amended by deleting, after the word “appear”, the word “alone” and by replacing the words “for three hours” with the following: “for a minimum of two hours”.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Peter Julian and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Yvan Baker, Michael Barrett, Luc Berthold, Michael Cooper, Greg Fergus, Marie-Hélène Gaudreau, Peter Julian, John Nater, Sherry Romanado, Ruby Sahota, Jenna Sudds — 11;
NAYS: — 0.
The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Yvan Baker, Michael Barrett, Luc Berthold, Michael Cooper, Greg Fergus, Marie-Hélène Gaudreau, Peter Julian, John Nater, Sherry Romanado, Ruby Sahota, Jenna Sudds — 11;
NAYS: — 0.
The motion, as amended, read as follows:
That the committee, in relation to its study of foreign election interference:
a. invite Katie Telford, Chief of Staff to the Prime Minister, to appear for a minimum of two hours by herself, between Monday, April 3, 2023, and Friday, April 14, 2023, provided that she be sworn or affirmed; and
b. invite the following individuals to appear before the committee as part of this study, provided that they be sworn or affirmed:
i. Jeremy Broadhurst, Azam Ishmael, Hamish Marshall and Walied Solomon, national campaign directors for the Liberal Party of Canada and the Conservative Party of Canada during the 2019 and 2021 federal election campaigns;
ii. Jenni Byrne, Leader of the Official Opposition’s senior leadership advisor, and Tausha Michaud, Chief of Staff to the former leader of the Official Opposition.
At 11:54 a.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.